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Trump news at a glance: California’s Newsom compares Trump to a ‘dictator’ over national guard deployment

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  last year  •  23 comments

By:   Guardian staff (The Guardian)

Trump news at a glance: California’s Newsom compares Trump to a ‘dictator’ over national guard deployment
The governor is in a showdown with the president over the policing of protests in LA and Paramount

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California’s governor, Gavin Newson, is leading criticism of Donald Trump over his decision to send 2,000 national guard troops to Los Angeles, likening his actions to those of a “dictator”.

National guard troops clashed with demonstrators protesting Trump’s controversial anti-immigration program on Sunday, while police fired teargas and rubber bullets to disperse the crowds. Trump and his defense chief, Pete Hegseth, have also threatened to send in the Marines.

Newsom has demanded Trump rescind the order and accused the president of inciting and provoking violence, creating mass chaos, militarizing cities and arresting opponents. “These are the acts of a dictator, not a President,” he wrote in a social media post.

He also shared a sharp rebuke signed by all of the country’s Democratic governors describing deployment as “an alarming abuse of power”.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    last year

Inciting violence and participating in riots are legal cause to invalidate visas, green cards, and asylum which allows for immediate deportation.

Trump is recruiting volunteers for the Bye-Bye train.  Welcome aboard!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  Vic Eldred    last year

Imagine if I went to Mexico City and incited a riot, waved American flags and hurled rocks at police. Do you think the mayor of Mexico City would call the Mexican president a "dictator" for trying to put down the riot?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

I believe it's actually illegal for a foreigner, regardless of immigration status,  to protest the Mexican government in Mexico and even participating in a peaceful process leads to deportation. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    last year

Good law!

That explains why they have long sent their miscreants and unemployed and minorities to the US.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1    last year

We should just adopt Mexico's policies. Fair is fair:

In brief, the Mexican Constitution states that:
  • Immigrants and foreign visitors are banned from public political discourse.
  • Immigrants and foreigners are denied certain basic property rights.
  • Immigrants are denied equal employment rights.
  • Immigrants and naturalized citizens will never be treated as real Mexican citizens.
  • Immigrants and naturalized citizens are not to be trusted in public service.
  • Immigrants and naturalized citizens may never become members of the clergy.
  • Private citizens may make citizens arrests of lawbreakers (i.e., illegal immigrants) and hand them to the authorities.
  • Immigrants may be expelled from Mexico for any reason and without due process.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.2    last year

Just think how they feel about ILLEGAL immigrants.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year

Actually, I don't think you would survive to tell the story.................

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    last year

The Mexican Federales are expert shots when it comes to protestors.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year
Imagine if I went to Mexico City and incited a riot

You could work for ICE, then. No one was rioting before they arrived.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    last year

Did you read post # 2.1.2?

Nobody dares riot in Mexico City. They'd be scraping them off the pavement

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    last year

N o one was rioting before they arrived

I dunno, I think it's a good point. I saw protestors throwing boulders from an overpass onto cops. Had the cops not been there, the boulders would have landed harmlessly on the road. So who is really at fault here?
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    last year
No one was rioting before they arrived.

We don't abandon immigration laws because a mob demands it.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.3.4  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.3.3    last year

It’s not even about that. The methods of enforcement are what drew the crowd’s attention. They could have enforced the law in a way that wouldn’t have even been noticed. Instead, they chose to terrorize a community.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.3.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @2.3.4    last year
Instead, they chose to terrorize a community.

Which community?

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    last year
Trump and his defense chief, Pete Hegseth, have also threatened to send in the Marines.

Why stop there? Strafe the crowd with some A-10s. Drop a few bombs. Maybe a cruise missile or two. 

Is any government action too much? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @3    last year

I'd be happy with a warning to disperse. Then it's shoot to kill.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.1  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

A recent letter by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder provides new information about the legal reasoning behind the President’s authority to use drones as a weapon within the U.S. According to Holder, the Obama administration believes it could technically use military force to kill a U.S. citizen located on American soil in an “extraordinary circumstance” but has “no intention of doing so.” 

Can the President Legally Order a Drone Strike in the U.S.? | National Security and Armed Conflict Law Review

Maybe trump should go full Barry on them.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.2  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year
I'd be happy with a warning to disperse. Then it's shoot to kill.

You would kill a person for standing?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @3.1.1    last year

Ah yes, if only Trump could be Obama for a day!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @3.1.2    last year

For defying the law.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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3.1.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.3    last year

That's what started what we are seeing in LA.  Trump is following Obama's precedent and deporting illegals.  The left started throwing their tantrum again and destroying cities.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1.6  Tacos!  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.4    last year
For defying the law.

Any law?

Our laws on punishment only have the death penalty for murder and treason.

But you would kill a person. For standing. Illegally standing, I guess. “Refusing to disperse.” Whatever.

You would kill - or support killing. For remaining in place.

Donald Trump has defied the law on many occasions, and he gets elected as a reward. Good thing he never met you, right?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    last year
California’s governor, Gavin Newson, is leading criticism of Donald Trump over his decision to send 2,000 national guard troops to Los Angeles, likening his actions to those of a “dictator”.

When local government fails, somebody has to step in.  In this instance, Newsome failed and Trump stepped in.  

 
 

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