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Do Democrats want the GOP to take over their cities?

  
Via:  GregTx  •  last year  •  6 comments

By:   Zachary Faria

Do Democrats want the GOP to take over their cities?
Democrats mock Republicans for crime in blue cities in red states, but would be upset if Republicans actually did anything about it.

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The emerging Democratic message on crime is dishonest to its very core, and the reaction to President Donald Trump's decision to deploy the National Guard to the streets of Washington, D.C., shows exactly that.

What Democrats are arguing about "red state" crime


Democrats have not treated crime as a serious issue, and their new strategy is to paint crime as a GOP issue. The argument is that "red states" have the most crime, and therefore Republicans, not Democrats, should be seen as the bad-on-crime party. California Gov. Gavin Newsom is the most prominent one arguing this point, as he plans to use it to defuse criticism of California as a soft-on-crime haven for criminals during his presidential campaign. Newsom's team went on a Twitter/X posting spree attacking St. Louis, Missouri; Dallas, Texas; Memphis, Tennessee; Houston, Texas; Tampa, Florida; and the state of Mississippi (after apparently realizing that naming these cities was backfiring).

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The problem with this, of course, is that Republicans do not run any of the cities that Newsom mentioned. For example, Newsom used St. Louis to attack Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley. The last Republican mayor of St. Louis left office in 1949, three decades before Hawley was even born. St. Louis has the highest homicide rate in the country, and it hit record highs as the city became more progressive. The city's chief prosecutor from 2017-2023 was Kimberly Gardner, a progressive backed by left-wing billionaire George Soros to push the kind of criminal justice "reform" that Newsom supports.

Under Gardner's tenure, Missouri had its worst homicide rate in 50 years. Her office even released an alleged murderer after no prosecutors were sent to multiple court appearances in the case. In fact, Republicans tried to take over homicide prosecutions in St. Louis due to Gardner's incompetence (both deliberate through her ideology and unintentional through her lack of ability as a prosecutor). Earlier this year, the Missouri House passed a bill that would give the state control of the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department.

The same can be said of the other cities included in lists such as Newsom's. In Texas, Houston hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1982 and sits in a county with a Democratic district attorney. Dallas County has had a Democratic district attorney since 2019, and the city's Republican mayor only jumped to the GOP four years after taking office as a Democrat, after he had served for a decade in the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat.

Tampa hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1986 (he, too, had switched parties), and its top attorney was Democrat Andrew Warren, who was infamously removed from office by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis. He was replaced by a DeSantis appointee, and crime in Tampa has decreased over the past two years. The only city that cuts in Democrats' favor here would be Memphis, which recently replaced its Republican district attorney with a Democrat and has seen its crime numbers start to drop. Newsom is ultimately criticizing him, too, in his anti-GOP screeds.

That would be why Newsom generalized his attacks on Mississippi's crime numbers. But those numbers can be blamed on the city of Jackson. Jackson has been run by Democrats for roughly 60 years, and has a Democratic district attorney who ran for office on the promise of putting fewer people in jail. (He is also currently under federal indictment for bribery).

Still, Newsom and the other Democrats who argue about "red state" crime blame Republicans for this problem. So, what if Republicans in any of these states decided to go in and take control of the criminal justice system in these cities? What if, say, Texas Republicans decided that they would solve the crime crisis in Houston by taking over the city's police department and Harris County's prosecuting decisions?

What Democrats are arguing in Washington D.C.


In the nation's capital, Trump decided that he would use the federal authority vested in his office to federalize the Metropolitan Police Department and deploy National Guard troops to help police the streets of the city. Violent crime has dropped dramatically during this time period, including an 87% decline in carjackings compared to last year for a city plagued by carjackings.

This sent Democrats into a frenzy. Sen. Chris Van Hollen (MD) called it a "raw authoritarian power grab" and said that Trump is "playing dictator in our nation's capital as a dress rehearsal as he pushes democracy to the brink." Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee called it "dictator-level stuff." A press release from Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee called it an "outrageous move" to "militarize the streets of D.C." Democrats are once again demanding that the city of Washington, D.C., be given statehood precisely to avoid this fate in the future.

And, of course, the liberals at the Associated Pressdetermined that Trump's anti-crime rhetoric about D.C. was racist.

Now, imagine the rhetoric if Texas Republicans undertook similar efforts to get crime in Houston under control. Or if Missouri Republicans did the same in St. Louis. Or if Tennessee Republicans did the same in Memphis. In fact, when DeSantis used his executive power to remove Warren for refusing to enforce the law in Tampa, Florida Democrats said DeSantis was attacking democracy itself.

This is the game that Newsom and other Democrats are playing in this debate. They attack Republicans over crime in St. Louis, for example, knowing that Republicans do not control a single aspect of governance in the city. They label it as "red state" crime, when the issue is entirely localized in a blue city. But, if Republicans take a step to solve that crime crisis (as DeSantis did in Tampa), it would be a subversion of the electoral process, an attack on democracy itself, and a harbinger of fascism as Republicans roll their "shock troops" into the streets of Democratic cities.

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So Democrats get the best of both worlds. They get to run their cities into the ground in red states, and then other Democrats get to turn around and use their colleagues' failures as a political weapon against Republicans. Newsom is now sending "crime suppression" teams to Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Sacramento to deal with California's crime crisis. If Republicans point this out, Newsom attacks them for blue city crime in their states. If Republicans decided to send in the National Guard and take prosecutions and policing out of the hands of Democrats in those cities, Newsom would be the first to call it an attack on democracy and proof of MAGA fascism.

All of this is so that Democrats such as Newsom or the Democrats who run those aforementioned cities don't have to reckon with their pro-criminal policies or their failing justice systems. It is a deflection, because Democrats don't actually want Republicans to take over blue cities in red states, as they know the GOP administrations that would be leading that charge would take crime seriously. This is all just cynical electioneering and, if it continues, Republicans should consider taking Newsom up on his offer.


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    last year
Now, imagine the rhetoric if Texas Republicans undertook similar efforts to get crime in Houston under control. Or if Missouri Republicans did the same in St. Louis. Or if Tennessee Republicans did the same in Memphis. In fact, when DeSantis used his executive power to remove Warren for refusing to enforce the law in Tampa, Florida Democrats said DeSantis was attacking democracy itself.

This is the game that Newsom and other Democrats are playing in this debate. They attack Republicans over crime in St. Louis, for example, knowing that Republicans do not control a single aspect of governance in the city. They label it as "red state" crime, when the issue is entirely localized in a blue city. But, if Republicans take a step to solve that crime crisis (as DeSantis did in Tampa), it would be a subversion of the electoral process, an attack on democracy itself, and a harbinger of fascism as Republicans roll their "shock troops" into the streets of Democratic cities.
 
 
 
CB
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1.1  CB  replied to  GregTx @1    last year

Look 'both ways' there is no confusion here. Sweep around your own front door before or as you attempt to tell others about their 'concerns.' Or you get what you see and hear!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  GregTx @1    last year

So far we only have a couple of examples.  If the trend holds, the deployment of National Guard appears coordinated with increased ICE presence.  We know Chicago would resist ICE authorities enforcing law. 

The real issue seems to be about a lot more than a National Guard presence.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

If newsom wants republicans to take over  Memphis, saint Louis, Jackson etc.. and give them good governance for the first time in decades because democrats can’t govern themselves, okay I guess.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1  CB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

I guess, too! Take it over, after all if you don't then republicans can't really be taken seriously. Sweep around republican's own front door!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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3  Nerm_L    last year

Democrats are choosing to highlight smaller cities while ignoring the large number of people who commute into these small cities (transient population).  For example, St. Louis is a small city with 280,000 residents.  But St. Louis County has a population of over 950,000 and St. Charles County has a population over 400,000.  On any day, there are a lot more people in St. Louis than reside there.  The crime rates are based on the number of residents and not the actual number of people in the city.

The St. Louis crime stats for 2024 show there were 150 homicides which is a rate of 57.9 homicides per 100,000 residents.  But there could be 500,000 people traveling into St. Louis each day for work, shopping, entertainment, tourism, etc.  By excluding a transient population that if larger than the number of residents, the crime rates are skewed.  Including the non-resident population would make the homicide rate closer to 19 per 100,000 people.

Chicago has a population of 2.7 million residents.  It's highly unlikely that the transient population traveling into the city for work, shopping, entertainment, tourism, etc. will exceed the number of residents.  That's why comparing the crime rate of St. Louis to the crime rate of Chicago is really an apples and oranges comparison.  Chicago's homicide rate is reported as 22 per 100,000 residents.  So the homicide rate in Chicago wouldn't be that different than St. Louis if the non-resident population is included for both cities.

This is going to be true with any small city that has a large suburban population.  The small city attracts a lot of people who do not reside in the city.  It is more likely that a small city will have more non-residents than residents.  That is not as likely in big cities.

 
 

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