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Trump issues first second-term vetoes for Colorado water project and Florida tribal measure | Reuters

  
Via:  TᵢG  •  10 months ago  •  30 comments

By:   Andrea Shalal and Kanishka Singh (Reuters)

Trump issues first second-term vetoes for Colorado water project and Florida tribal measure | Reuters
U.S. President Donald Trump vetoed a major drinking water project in Colorado, drawing immediate condemnation from Colorado Republican lawmaker Lauren Boebert, a former loyal MAGA ally who also recently challenged Trump over the Jeffrey Epstein files.

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Another fine example of Trump abusing the power of the presidency to punish those who do not bend the knee.   He does not care about the harm he does to people, this is just another opportunity for him to inflict punishment ... another transaction.


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WASHINGTON, Dec 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump vetoed a major drinking water project in Colorado, drawing immediate condemnation from Colorado Republican lawmaker Lauren Boebert, a former loyal MAGA ally who also recently challenged Trump over the Jeffrey Epstein files.The White House announced Trump's veto of the Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit (AVC) Act, which was approved unanimously by both the House of Representatives and the Senate, and a second measure affecting a Florida project, late on Tuesday. They were the first two vetoes of Trump's second term.
The veto of the Colorado project came after Trump's vow to retaliate against the state for keeping his ally Tina Peters in prison, despite his attempt to pardon her earlier in the month, and Boebert's action to force the release of the government's files on the late convicted sexual offender Epstein.Peters, a former Colorado county clerk, is serving a nine-year prison term after being convicted on state charges for illegally tampering with voting machines in the 2020 presidential election. Trump's pardon covers only federal charges and the state has refused to release Peters.Boebert, who sponsored the bill, condemned Trump's veto of what she called a "completely non-controversial, bipartisan bill" in a statement on X, adding her hope is that "this veto has nothing to do with political retaliation for calling out …

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TᵢG
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1  seeder  TᵢG    10 months ago
The White House announced Trump's veto of the Finish the Arkansas Valley Conduit (AVC) Act, which was approved unanimously by both the House of Representatives and the Senate ...
The veto of the Colorado project came after Trump's vow to retaliate against the state for keeping his ally Tina Peters in prison, despite his attempt to pardon her earlier in the month, and Boebert's action to force the release of the government's files on the late convicted sexual offender Epstein.

Explain how this is not yet another abuse of power.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  TᵢG @1    10 months ago
yet another abuse of power.

the vindictive vagina grabbin back stabbin mental midget miscreant who manages to maintain a mind blowing consistency of doing what is wrong for America yet again, continues on his personal vendetta of vengeance tour de force abuses as he has found basically totally unthought of new uses, for the doj, and the veto pen, cause you never know where and when, the Trump inner child will need to go wild, as he has shown prior when his accidental butt dial, to Bondi he accidentally sent, to fortunately for US,   a more loyal patriot than Hegsbreth it did went, and went we do, asz the R's blindly followed this pos creator of the zoo, cause without their complacent silence and scared shitless approval, there would be a primaried removal and a new keeper, close to the vest, and a typical childesh response from one who claims to be the best, as he is, possibly the best that swamp he was gonna drain could offer, and with Boebert, just another law fare, asz the GOP has given him an ez pass by the R's so far(s), though we are apparently witnessing the slow dilution of the maga medical Kool Aide consumed, as the orange mental 'man', has begun to observe his rats slowly abandon ship, and wow, how long the return to reality has taken, as the iceberg begins to tip, and hopefully very soon that ship will have sailed, and these criminals unable to make bail, will fail...

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    10 months ago

what's really hilarious is that all the punishments meted out by POS/POTUS to punish colorado and it's governor are adversely affecting mostly the red districts in this state ...

thanks for turning colorado deep blue, trump, you clueless fucking moron ...

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @1    10 months ago
Explain how this is not yet another abuse of power.

He does have the power to Veto bills. If Congress truly wants this to happen they will overturn the Veto in a new vote, though I'm almost certain the Speaker will toe this new line. The reasoning for using the Veto is highly unethical, even if unsurprising. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.1  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @1.2    10 months ago

I asked ChatGPT to give us an example of a PotUS defying unanimous or near-unanimous support by Congress:

Short answer: Trump’s December 31, 2025 veto of the Arkansas Valley Conduit clean-water bill appears to be the most recent — and extraordinarily rare — modern example of a president vetoing a bill that had effectively unanimous support in both chambers of Congress. There is no clearly documented 20th- or 21st-century precedent of a president vetoing a bill that passed by unanimous consent in the Senate and an effectively unanimous House vote, making Trump’s 2025 veto likely unique in modern U.S. history.

And Trump's reasoning is that this bill is wasteful spending.   Yet this is the guy using taxpayer funds to prepare his gift jet from Qatar (minimum of $400 million).  

ChatGPT estimated the net cost to taxpayers for this bill at $170 million.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    10 months ago
And Trump's reasoning is that this bill is wasteful spending.   Yet this is the guy using taxpayer funds to prepare his gift jet from Qatar (minimum of $400 million).

Let's talk about the money spent to kill people in the Carribean. How much is that costing? I'm going to go look up how much it costs to keep the USS Gerald R Ford afloat

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.2    10 months ago
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The daily operating cost for the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft carrier (and other U.S. carriers) is roughly $6 million to $8.7 million , with a full Carrier Strike Group deployment pushing it towards the higher end, covering crew, fuel, maintenance, and air wing operations for around 5,000-6,000 personnel.  
 
 
 
evilone
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1.2.4  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.1    10 months ago
And Trump's reasoning is that this bill is wasteful spending.   Yet this is the guy using taxpayer funds to prepare his gift jet from Qatar (minimum of $400 million).

His gift jet, his new ballroom, any number of partisan 'investigations', having NG troops sitting around doing nothing, aiding farmers after his policies fucked them over...

The amount of wasteful spending Trump does could take us a bit of time to cover... He still has the power to veto, even without making up some half-baked lie. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.5  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  evilone @1.2.4    10 months ago

The fact that he has the power to veto is what makes this an abuse of power.

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2.6  evilone  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    10 months ago
...is what makes this an abuse of power.

That must make this Wednesday under the current regime? /s

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.7  1stwarrior  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    10 months ago

Article I, Section 7, U.S. Constitution sez - "Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him,"

Can't have someone, who follows the Constitution, abusing the power that said Constitution allots them, eh?

Yeah - futch the Constitution

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.5    10 months ago
The fact that he has the power to veto is what makes this an abuse of power.

America is currently in an abusive relationship, and many Americans are scared to speak up out of fear of drawing the ire of their abuser while other enablers watch the abuse with delight and glee. We'll see how the enablers rally behind the abuser defending his actions even when it's contradicting nearly unanimous support for what the representatives elected by the majority of Americans wanted. But the enablers love watching the 'bitch' get popped in the mouth aka 'owning the libs' in any way that they can, even when its bipartisan legislation being smacked in the face.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.8    10 months ago
But the enablers love watching the 'bitch' get popped in the mouth aka 'owning the libs' in any way that they can, even when its bipartisan legislation being smacked in the face.

We see that here every day. I wonder what their home lives are like? Probably pretty fucking miserable

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.2.10  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.7    10 months ago

I have not claimed that a PotUS does not have the power to veto.   Of course Trump has the power to veto.

My point is that this is an abuse of power.   If Trump did NOT have the power to veto then this would be an expansion of power.   Abuse of power means improperly using power one has.

Are you actually trying to defend this veto??   This is another example of Trump (ab)using his power for his own purposes instead of the good of the people.   The fact that Congress effectively supports this vetoed bill unanimously is evidence supporting that claim.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.11  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.10    10 months ago

blowbert thinks her bill was vetoed because of her reluctance to back off support of the epstein files release ...

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
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1.2.12  Igknorantzruls  replied to  devangelical @1.2.11    10 months ago
blowbert thinks her bill was vetoed because of her reluctance to back off support of the epstein files release ...

I would have to guess that other than the election fraud felon that Co. refuses to release, that most definitely did play a part from the vindictive old fart. A meeting in the Situation room with the top brass....?

Trump should of just invited her alone into the White House movie theatre, telling her he needed a hand, for a very small job.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.13  devangelical  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.2.12    10 months ago

tina peters had a republican DA prosecute her, and was convicted by a jury of her peers, in a majority republican county, in the western colorado district that was formerly represented by blowbert, who moved across state to represent a new district on the front range, to avoid being defeated in her former district in the last election ...

tina peters violated colorado election laws by using a stolen ID badge for a proxy to gain entry into the secured area of the voting machines, after shutting down the security cameras monitoring them, and allowing that proxy of mike lindell to download the voting machine software. she got 9 years, but she really deserved a blindfold and a marlboro. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.14  1stwarrior  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.10    10 months ago

Nope - not defending his veto - just giving a legal clarification to terms being used.

Of course, anything I post - contrary can be found in all - and is.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.15  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.14    10 months ago
... just giving a legal clarification to terms being used

Why?

Nobody had suggested that a PotUS does not have the power to veto.   

What is the point of quoting the CotUS and then claiming that people are "futching" the CotUS??

By what means is anyone suggesting we ignore the CotUS?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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1.2.16  1stwarrior  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.15    10 months ago

Actually, based on the title of the thread on the front page - this ain't the same article.

Where's the discussion 'bout the Miccosukee?

Oh, here it is-

The White House said Trump had also vetoed a measure to spend $14 million to protect an area known as Osceola Camp within the Everglades National Park that is inhabited by members of the Miccosukee tribe of Native Americans, which has fought Trump's makeshift immigrant detention center "Alligator Alcatraz" in the Everglades. A federal judge has now ordered the detention center to be shut down.
Trump said the tribe was never authorized to inhabit the Osceola Camp area, and his administration would not support projects for special interests, especially those "unaligned" with his immigration policies.
How 'bout some discussion of this part of YOUR  thread.
 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.17  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.15    10 months ago

I'm very impressed with your ability to attract NT members that seem unable to answer direct questions.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.2.18  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.16    10 months ago
Actually, based on the title of the thread on the front page - this ain't the same article.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

How 'bout some discussion of this part of YOUR  thread.

Again, what on Earth are you talking about??

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.19  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.18    10 months ago

bad weather in south AZ or ICE profiling must be keeping people indoors ...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @1    10 months ago

He vetoed the project for a nobody. 

 
 
 
evilone
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1.3.1  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3    10 months ago
He vetoed the project for a nobody. 

He vetoed the project because someone dared to tell him no.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  evilone @1.3.1    10 months ago

He vetoed the project because someone dared to tell him no.

He vetoed the project because it is a blue state that wouldn't allow him to pardon Tina Peters.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.3.3  seeder  TᵢG  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.2    10 months ago

Exactly.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.4  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3    10 months ago

an isolation cell in prison is probably the safest place on earth for tina peters now. my governor should ask trump how long he thinks tina would last if she was moved into the prison's general population, and then give him a short deadline to walk back all of his partisan punishment before tina gets some help painting the interior of her new cell, with her face...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.5  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.2    10 months ago
He vetoed the project because it is a blue state

this will cost him some colorado maga seats in congress. looks like blowbert and evans have seen the writing on the wall ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.4  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    10 months ago
Explain how this is not yet another abuse of power.

most maga scum couldn't care less ...

 
 

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