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The remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife are being removed from a Memphis park - CNN

  
Via:  Devangelical  •  5 years ago  •  9 comments

By:   Amanda Jackson and Devon M. Sayers (CNN)

The remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife are being removed from a Memphis park - CNN
Crews have started to remove the remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife from a Memphis park where a monument of him once stood.

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the remains of traitorous scum certainly don't belong on public property in america.


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Crews have started to remove the remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife from a Memphis park where a monument of him once stood.

The decision to move their remains was decided last year after the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a non-profit organization of male descendants of Confederate veterans, agreed to drop a pending lawsuit against park owners, according to CNN affiliate WREG. Forrest, who was a slave trader and early Ku Klux Klan leader, and his wife, Mary Ann, had their graves at Health Sciences Park, where a monument to Forrest used to be. The work to remove the remains started Tuesday morning and is being paid for by the Sons of the Confederate Veterans, Lee Millar a spokesperson for the group and fifth cousin of Forrest, told CNN. The disinterment is expected to take three weeks, Millar said. Forrest and his wife will be reinterred on private land that will be publicly accessible in Columbia, Tennessee. Read More

The years long battle over the remains


City leaders voted in 2013 to change the name of three parks that honored Confederate figures in Memphis. Then, in 2015, they voted to move the Forrest statue. To proceed with the removal, they sought a waiver from the Tennessee Heritage Protection Act, a law that governs the removal, relocation or renaming of memorials on public property. But the Tennessee Historical Commission denied the city's request. Confederate statues come down in Memphis The denial led the city council to pass legislation allowing it to sell parkland to Memphis Greenspace, a non-profit that provides park-based recreation to the city. The non-profit took down Forrest's monument in December 2017, as well as a statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis. The Forrest statue was placed in 1904 amid the passage of Jim Crow-era segregation laws and the Davis statue was placed in 1964 amid the battle for civil rights, according to Memphis Mayor Jim Strickland. When the statues were removed, the mayor said they "no longer represent who we are as a modern, diverse city with momentum." The Sons of Confederate Veterans had fought the city's efforts to remove the statues. The removal promoted the group to file a lawsuit against the city of Memphis and Memphis Greenspace, according to CNN affiliate WMC. The group said that it believed the removal violated the state cemetery law and Heritage Protection Law. Memphis took down two Confederate statues. State lawmakers are punishing the city for it "It is a deliberate attempt to avoid the state law and the city is breaking the law," Millar with Sons of the Confederate Veterans, told CNN affiliate WREG in December 2017. In 2020, after years of controversy, both parties agreed to remove the remains, which will become property of The Sons of Confederate Veterans. The group will also take possession of two Civil War-related statues and other items previously on public display at the park, according to WREG. "We are pleased to say that the statues and the bodies of the general and his wife will be placed somewhere that that will be honored and respected as all American veterans and citizens should be respected," said Donnie Kennedy, a spokesman for the group, in a statement to CNN last year. Both parties told WREG last year that they are happy they were able to reach this outcome outside the courtroom. "They don't have to worry about further protests, further potential vandalism of the monuments," Van Turner, president of Memphis Greenspace and Shelby County commissioner, said. Turner also told WREG that under the new agreement, Memphis Greenspace will not be pursuing action to get the statues banned from Tennessee. "As an American, as a defender of the Constitution, it is their right to do so, to freely express their views," said Turner. "It's my right as an American to not support that, to not visit it."

CNN's Alex Medeiros, Melissa Alonso, Kaylene Chassie and Nicole Chavez contributed to this report.

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devangelical
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1  seeder  devangelical    5 years ago
"the bodies of the general and his wife will be placed somewhere that that will be honored and respected as all American veterans and citizens should be respected"

bullshit. confederates stopped being americans when they took up arms against the union.

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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1.1  Duck Hawk  replied to  devangelical @1    5 years ago

Couldn't agree more. Feel the same for those who took part on Jan. 6

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2  Snuffy  replied to  devangelical @1    5 years ago
confederates stopped being americans when they took up arms against the union.

I think President Lincoln would have disagreed with you.

Because Lincoln believed that the South had never legally seceded from the Union, his plan for Reconstruction was based on forgiveness. He thus issued the Proclamation Of Amnesty And Reconstruction in 1863 to announce his intention to reunite the once-united states. https://www.sparknotes.com/history/american/reconstruction/section1/#:~:text=Because%20Lincoln%20believed%20that%20the,reunite%20the%20once%2Dunited%20states .

Regardless, these are still people's graves. I have no problem with them being moved from public land but I believe they should be moved and placed with the same honor and respect that would be afforded to any gravesite. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Snuffy @1.2    5 years ago

pretty sure abe got his mind changed at ford's theater. the remains of confederates can be tossed on the coals left after the next cross burning for all I care. throwing them into the nearest cesspool would work as well. white supremacists only deserve to be remembered in history books. the legitimization of a defective heritage decades after their atrocities against america have been committed only served to perpetuate racial division in a country whose foundation is based upon equality. after 160 years there is no sane reason to appease traitors.

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2.2  Snuffy  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    5 years ago

You're entitled to your opinion but I think you are wrong here. We're not talking about the monument which was removed in 2017,  this is about moving the graves of two people. The graves are being moved to private land. I believe any grave should be given the same honor and respect as any other. If we don't treat the graves of people buried in this country with honor and respect, where does it end? There are some people very upset with Washington and Jefferson among others because they once owned slaves. Should we dig up those remains and toss them in a cesspool?  What about Sitting Bull? Where on this slope does it end?

No, my opinion is that all graves should be treated with honor and respect. 

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2.3  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Snuffy @1.2.2    5 years ago

you're entitled to your opinion as well, but in support of every person that has given their lives defending our country, I couldn't care less what happens to the dried up DNA of any traitor or their sycophants. they don't belong in this country, either above the ground or below it, and certainly don't deserve any type of reverence without any show of public remorse for their prior treason.

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     5 years ago
Crews have started to remove the remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife from a Memphis park where a monument of him once stood.

Excellent.

 
 

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