More Republicans have negative view of Biden than of Putin, poll finds | Republicans | The Guardian

Via:  Devangelical  •  6 months ago  •  7 comments

By:   MartinPengelly (the Guardian)

More Republicans have negative view of Biden than of Putin, poll finds | Republicans | The Guardian
Findings from Fox News poll point to deep domestic divisions as well as splits over Biden's handling of Ukraine crisis

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More Republicans have a negative view of Joe Biden than of Vladimir Putin and more Democrats have a negative view of Donald Trump than of the Russian leader, according to a new poll.

The findings point to deep domestic divisions as well as disagreement over Biden's handling of the Ukraine crisis.

Fox News released the poll, which it said was carried out before Russia invaded Ukraine.

It said 92% of Republicans had a negative view of Biden while 81% had a negative view of Putin. Among Democrats, 87% had a negative view of Trump and 85% a negative view of Putin.

Biden has condemned the Russian invasion and introduced tough economic sanctions, in concert with other world powers.

Trump has repeatedly praised Putin and criticized Biden, on Thursday adapting a favorite golfing metaphor to claim the Russian leader was playing his counterpart "like a drum".

Trump's attacks are in line with those from Republicans in Congress, who claim Biden has been too weak on Russia, both as president and as vice-president under Barack Obama from 2009 to 2017.

In the Fox News poll, 56% said Biden had not been tough enough on Russia, 8% said he had been too tough and 29% said he had been about right.

Among Democrats, 42% of respondents said they wanted Biden to be tougher and 47% said his actions were about right.

Fox News said Biden's numbers tracked closely to the same question about Trump when he was in power. In July 2018, 53% said Trump was not tough enough, 5% too tough and 35% about right.

That month, Russian election interference in Trump's favor and his links with Moscow were the subject of an investigation in which the special counsel, Robert Mueller, ultimately said he could not say Trump did not seek to obstruct justice.

Also in July 2018, at a summit in Helsinki, Trump and Putin conducted a meeting behind closed doors and with no close aides. What was discussed is not known.

Trump was impeached in 2020, for attempting to blackmail Ukraine, withholding military aid while requesting dirt on Biden. At trial in the Senate, only one Republican, Mitt Romney, voted to convict.

As the Republican nominee for president in 2012, Romney took a more hawkish position on Russia than Obama.

Amid the Ukraine crisis, Republicans have pointed to Romney's stance on Russia. They have been less keen to mention his vote to convict Trump over Ukraine.

The Utah senator also voted to convict Trump in his second impeachment trial, for inciting the insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.

The Fox News poll returned closely matched favor-ability ratings for the 45th and 46th presidents, Trump on 45% and Biden 43%.

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1  seeder  devangelical    6 months ago

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2  Veronica    6 months ago


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2.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Veronica @2    6 months ago

republican support of democracy here and abroad has been underwhelming for more than a few years.

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3  Thomas    6 months ago

How could anyone have a less than negative view of Putin? He has been pretty consistent in that everything he has said over the past 20 years you can pretty much assume that something was factually turned on its head.

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3.1  seeder  devangelical  replied to  Thomas @3    6 months ago

my favorite part is that this is a FOX poll.

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4  Paula Bartholomew    6 months ago

I won't mince words here.  Fuck them and any of their bases who support them.

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5  Tacos!    6 months ago

As I said in a similar seed . . . 

To be fair, I think most Americans have higher expectations for a fellow American than they do for an ex-KGB turned dictator of Russia. So, when Putin does or says something insane, we respond pretty apathetically. After all, he’s just that nut job on the other side of the world. But when an American does or says something insane, we have a stronger emotional response.

Especially, right this minute, Biden is president and so the things he says and does have a direct impact on Americans. Putin, not so much.


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