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Oldest brewing school in US moving to Canada citing Trump visa policies | Buffalo Toronto Public Media

  
Via:  sandy-2021492  •  11 months ago  •  33 comments

By:   Dan Karpenchuk Published (Buffalo Toronto Public Media)

Oldest brewing school in US moving to Canada citing Trump visa policies | Buffalo Toronto Public Media
The school, founded in Chicago in the late 1800s, said the move allows them to pivot without sacrificing student experience.

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Buffalo Toronto Public Media | By Dan Karpenchuk Published December 8, 2025 at 9:37 AM EST

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American craft beer makers and brewers could be lamenting a recent announcement by a world famous brewing institution. The well known American beer brewing school, the Siebel Institute of Technology, is pulling up stakes at its Chicago address and heading to Montreal.

The Siebel Institute has been around since 1872, and has taught generations the fine art and science of beer brewing. Now, more than 150 years later, it's moving north.

In a statement the school says it has chosen to relocate to Canada mainly because of the policies enacted by the Trump administration. It goes on to say recent regulatory changes in the U.S. have made it much more challenging for many international students who have become the majority of the student body. And this relocation of North America classroom operations to Montreal allows Siebel Institute to pivot without sacrificing the student experience.

So America's loss is Canada's, especially Montreal's gain.

Michael D'Ornellas is the president of Quatre Origines, which has been brewing beer in Montreal for seven years.

"Siebel Institute coming to Canada is big news," he said. "Essentially they offer a wide range of education options, specifically for this industry. I really think it's going to focus a lot of attention on to Montreal as a destination for beer which the U.S., that's where all the focus is for craft beer. Like we learned from them."

And the loss of Siebel in the U.S. is a blow to the industry, many in the business say it's the place to go where people can learn the trade.

Siebel's move will come in January, then it will take up residence in Montreal, a short distance from the original site of Molson's, the oldest operating brewery in North America.


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sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
1  seeder  sandy-2021492    11 months ago
In a statement the school says it has chosen to relocate to Canada mainly because of the policies enacted by the Trump administration. It goes on to say recent regulatory changes in the U.S. have made it much more challenging for many international students who have become the majority of the student body. And this relocation of North America classroom operations to Montreal allows Siebel Institute to pivot without sacrificing the student experience.
So America's loss is Canada's, especially Montreal's gain.
 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    11 months ago

the wrong people are leaving america ...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
1.1.1  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @1.1    11 months ago

We've already delayed construction of a Hyundai manufacturing plant in Georgia by arresting the workers sent to set it up.

Now we're sending a niche training institution that we've had for over 150 years to Canada.

But Trump wants foreign businesses to invest in the US, risking the safety of their workers in doing so.

Where's the winning, again?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.1    11 months ago

in his peanut sized brain and on the lips of his cult ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.3  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1.1.1    11 months ago
delayed construction of a Hyundai manufacturing plant in Georgia by arresting the workers sent to set it up

well, they were off-white and couldn't understand american ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.4  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @1.1.3    11 months ago
off-white and couldn't understand american ...

Enemies of the state! 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.4    11 months ago

"not one of us"

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.6  Bob Nelson  replied to  devangelical @1.1.5    11 months ago

Same thing

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.6    11 months ago

the trump denial movement by former trump voters kicks off next year ...

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
1.2  Hallux  replied to  sandy-2021492 @1    11 months ago

I'll let you know, we're drowning in beers from small breweries.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Hallux @1.2    11 months ago

based upon what's happening in my state, I think craft breweries are now facing some challenges ...

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2.2  cjcold  replied to  devangelical @1.2.1    11 months ago

It helps to have a restaurant attached to the brew room with huge glass windows where diners can observe the process. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.3  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    11 months ago

I've been to some of those, not exactly a hive of activity going on in the brew room. from a restaurant business standpoint, that a lot of wasted floor space for something that isn't spending money ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    11 months ago

brew pubs have been a denver metro staple for around 40 years ...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
2  Hal A. Lujah    11 months ago

Dominionists are rejoicing.  Expel the evils of alcohol production and replace them with milk and honey factories.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    11 months ago

with maga thumpers declaring a war on drugs and alcohol, won't it be more difficult for them to coerce children into engaging in sex acts now? I thought child molestation and incest were part and parcel to their old testament revival. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Participates
2.1.1  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  devangelical @2.1    11 months ago

won't it be more difficult for them to coerce children into engaging in sex acts now?

Not really.  Just use the language in the Bible to justify.  Plenty of material there.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
2.1.2  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  devangelical @2.1    11 months ago
maga thumpers declaring a war on drugs and alcohol

Wait, what happens to Hegseth?  Isn't he mostly alcohol by now?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.1    11 months ago

that leaves a pretty narrow window between basic indoctrination by madrasa textbook to full exploitation by church leadership prior to a regular cycle of menstruation, and then on to an arranged marriage and many children.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.4  devangelical  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.2    11 months ago

he has a tattoo on him somewhere with a warning about being exposed to an open flame ...

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3  Bob Nelson    11 months ago

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sandy-2021492
Professor Guide
3.1  seeder  sandy-2021492  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    11 months ago

I didn't quite catch that, Bob.  Could you say it again?

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Guide
3.1.1  Krishna  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1    11 months ago
I didn't quite catch that, Bob.  Could you say it again?

I agree with most of what Bob said.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    11 months ago

Well, this is not good news. Mr Giggles probably would have liked to be a student there. He used to brew his own beer but now he's on a mission to sample every craft brewery in the state of Arkansas.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
6.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    11 months ago
he's on a mission to sample every craft brewery in the state of Arkansas.

Admirable man!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    11 months ago

... pretty state, but it's overrun with maga goobers.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @6.2    11 months ago

Meh...we got some libruls moving here from those expensive states

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.1    11 months ago

gosh darn those remote jobs that reward the educated with less expensive real estate and small town living ... somebody should make those lefties go back to work in an office, adding to traffic congestion and pollution in some big city, instead of diluting the rural flavor of social, political, and cultural backwardness well off the beaten path ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.1    11 months ago

have you had a chance to peek into any of their linen closets?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.4  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @6.2.3    11 months ago

..,. to make sure their pillowcases don't have eye holes cut out in them.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  devangelical @6.2.4    11 months ago

I don't invade my neighbors privacy

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.6  devangelical  replied to  Trout Giggles @6.2.5    11 months ago

yeah, what was I thinking. you'll know if they invite you to a toga party/barbecue this summer and there's a 12 foot cross erected in the backyard ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
6.2.7  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @6.2.6    11 months ago

does arkansas require a permit for cross burnings outside of the city limits? how much are they?

 
 

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