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In the Age of Digital Imaging, Creating a Derivative Image is Potentially Rewarding, Frustrating and/or a Lot of Work for Naught

  
By:  A. Macarthur  •  2 months ago  •  97 comments


In the Age of Digital Imaging, Creating a Derivative Image is Potentially Rewarding, Frustrating and/or a Lot of Work for Naught
 

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A derivative work is  one which is not only based on a previous work, but which also contains sufficient new, creative content to entitle it to its own copyright .

However, if the original, underlying work is copyrights protected , anyone other than that copyrights holder cannot LEGALLY create a derivative and market it, license it, and/or transmit it without the expressed written permission of the original copyrights holder.

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This is an image I restored from a GLASS SLIDE I OWN, of which, I also thus own its copyrights.

Absecon Bay, Brigantine, New Jersey c. 1907

© A. Mac/A.G.

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A DERIVATIVE of the image Above

© A. Mac/A.G.


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RED BOX RULES:  AN IMPORTANT REMINDER

From time-to-time, I should remind all members of NT, etc., that when posting photos, artwork, etc., it's important, when posting, that you own, and/or legally represent the licensing, copyright, etc., of what you post, and TO PROTECT YOUR WORK, TO INCLUDE YOUR COPYRIGHT SYMBOL/INFORMATION; and/or, WHEN POSTING COPYRIGHTED PROPERTY BELONGING TO PARTIES OTHER THAN YOURSELF, TO …

• BE SURE YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO POST, TRANSMIT, etc, SUCH PROPERTY, and,

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A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
2  author  A. Macarthur    2 months ago

Welcome back; let see what we can derive creatively.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1  devangelical  replied to  A. Macarthur @2    2 months ago

nice job amac!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @2.1    2 months ago

I really like that this work could be interpreted as either a sunrise or sunset.

please don't forget to vote this article up art lovers. tyvm

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  A. Macarthur @2    2 months ago

Wonderful 'more than' just a restoration. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
2.3  Gsquared  replied to  A. Macarthur @2    2 months ago

Really beautiful.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
3  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

CHANGES  (Phil Ochs)

Sit by my side, come as close as the air
Share in a memory of gray
And wander in my words
Dream about the pictures that I play
Of changes

CHANGES  (Buzz of the Orient)

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shona1
Professor Quiet
4  shona1    2 months ago

Evening...

Autumn glory in my backyard..

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
4.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  shona1 @4    2 months ago

It was my favourite season back in Canada, but it's not very colourful where i am now. Enjoy the view and the crispness in the air, Shona.  Thanks for sharing it with us.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
5  Hal A. Lujah    2 months ago

My latest grandchild arrived last weekend.  A miracle of IVF.

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
5.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    2 months ago

Good thing that those who want to do away with IVF are not successful.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2  devangelical  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    2 months ago

I really like this kids attitude...

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.3  Kavika   replied to  Hal A. Lujah @5    2 months ago

If your not careful I'll dribble on you....LOLOLOL

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
6  evilone    2 months ago

Got a new plant yesterday and added it to the Wabi Kusa bowl where the other plant melted... Homalomena Sp. Sekadau South.

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Kobe enjoying some early morning sunlight.

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devangelical
Professor Principal
6.1  devangelical  replied to  evilone @6    2 months ago

... nice doggie... heh, heh...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
7  Gsquared    2 months ago

 Sunset Rose (© G. Gam)                  

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Iris - Branches and Clouds (© G. Gam)  

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devangelical
Professor Principal
7.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @7    2 months ago

oh yeah.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @7.1    2 months ago

Yeah.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
7.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @7    2 months ago

Beautifully done, GG.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
7.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.2    2 months ago

Thanks much, BotO.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
7.3  shona1  replied to  Gsquared @7    2 months ago

Morning... love them both...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
7.3.1  Gsquared  replied to  shona1 @7.3    2 months ago

Thank you, shona.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8  Gsquared    2 months ago

Just as we were leaving the house yesterday afternoon, we saw this guy next to the driveway, so I got out of the car and took a couple of pictures.  He was eating a lizard, and then, he slithered up the wall and disappeared on the hill.

Garter Snake 1 (© G. Gam)

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Garter Snake 2 (© G. Gam)

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devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8    2 months ago

yeesh, no thanks. this is the time of year when I'd be installing telecommunications for a homeowner and forget to kick the ped and one of these guys would slither out over my lap when I took the top off. not a fan of snakes...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @8.1    2 months ago

That was just a harmless Garter snake, good for pest control.  I haven't seen one for several years.  The thing I don't want coming around is a rattlesnake, although they do live in the canyons and hills here.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8.1.1    2 months ago

classifying the type of serpent wasn't the first thing that crossed my mind as it slithered across my lap.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
8.1.3  shona1  replied to  devangelical @8.1.2    2 months ago

Wuss..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.1.4  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @8.1.3    2 months ago

I'm already in a 40 year long war with spiders, why add another species conflict.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
8.2  shona1  replied to  Gsquared @8    2 months ago

Morning G...that is one very nice looking snake and what a bonus non venomous and rodent control combined..

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  shona1 @8.2    2 months ago

Unfortunately, we found a mouse nest today that the snake hadn't taken care of.  This one was trying to swallow a live lizard.  We have little lizards hanging out.

My wife is terrified of the snakes, even the harmless ones.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8.2.1    2 months ago

smart lady. didn't you get enough of reptiles in the music biz?

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.2.3  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @8.2.2    2 months ago
smart lady

Yes, she is.

didn't you get enough of reptiles in the music biz?

Ain't that the truth...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
8.2.4  shona1  replied to  Gsquared @8.2.1    2 months ago

Morning...so I gather your wife won't be coming to the Great Southern Land anytime soon re the snakes..😁

I can honestly say they don't scare me at all, have the greatest respect for them and leave them alone in the bush etc..

But if they are in my backyard then they are fair game.. killed a few over the years but hated doing it...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.5  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @8.2.4    2 months ago

can't you just pick them up and set them over the fence in a non-threatening and gentle way?

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
8.2.6  shona1  replied to  devangelical @8.2.5    2 months ago

Absolutely...on the end of a long handled shovel..😁

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.7  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @8.2.6    2 months ago

that doesn't sound very friendly...

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.2.8  Gsquared  replied to  shona1 @8.2.4    2 months ago

We were in Australia for about 3 weeks in 2008.  We had a nice time.  No snakes.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.9  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8.2.8    2 months ago

did you hire a local to interpret for you or just buy an oz slang dictionary?

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
8.2.10  shona1  replied to  devangelical @8.2.9    2 months ago

Morning Devangy..nah don't need a dictionary we would just draw you pictures...😁😁

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.11  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @8.2.10    2 months ago

I'll save you the trouble and watch all the mad max and crocodile dundee movies on the flight over.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.2.12  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @8.2.9    2 months ago

The best thing to do is just nod and smile, and pretend like you understand what they said.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.13  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8.2.12    2 months ago

my touring bicyclist friend told me that ozzies are absolutely the worst drivers on the planet. naturally I challenged him on that statement since he's never ridden in asia. today he starts his summer ride from naples to norway.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
8.2.14  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @8.2.13    2 months ago

In Beijing and Shanghai the traffic was coming from every direction, but they all seemed to know what they were doing and I think I only saw one accident.  Of course, they were all moving pretty slow.  I wasn't driving, just a passenger.

naples to norway

That is a LONG ride.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
8.2.15  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @8.2.14    2 months ago

he's insane. he rode from toronto to BC last year but didn't make it to vancouver because some farmer forced him off the road while passing him with a tractor and hay baler and he broke his shoulder. he's ridden across the US 3 times.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @8    2 months ago

Snake  (D.H.Lawrence)

"A snake came to my water-trough 
On a hot, hot day, and I in pyjamas for the heat,
To drink there."

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
8.3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @8.3    2 months ago

Hopefully a little creative English literature is welcome here now and then.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
9  Kavika     2 months ago

Around 6 weeks ago they finished the Japanese garden in the park next to us and we went over to see it. It uses rocks in place of water then to me I thought it was quite beautiful and just imagine what it will be like in a couple of years when it matures. 

Yes, that's a huge turtle in the middle of the lagoon..

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Kavika
Professor Principal
9.1  Kavika   replied to  Kavika @9    2 months ago

Oops forgot to add this one.

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devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @9.1    2 months ago

why didn't you ask that old guy to get out of your shot?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Kavika   replied to  devangelical @9.1.1    2 months ago

I was afraid that if I did that he would fall over trying to move.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @9.1.2    2 months ago

ouch, I hear that... every time I stand up it sounds like gravel hitting the floor.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
9.1.4  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @9.1    2 months ago

Don't get too close to that turtle, it could be a snapping one. 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
9.1.5  shona1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9.1.4    2 months ago

Forget the turtle, where are the crocs..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
9.1.6  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @9.1.5    2 months ago
where are the crocs..

... under the rocks.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
9.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @9    2 months ago

You could pretend you're Jesus and walk upon the water there. 

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
11  author  A. Macarthur    2 months ago

I derive, therefore I am.

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Fisherman Heading Out, Holly Beach, Now Wildwood, New Jersey, 1902, Original from Glass Slide

© A. Mac/A.G.

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The DERIVATIVE … Sometimes I Just Don't Know when to Stop.

© A. Mac/A.G.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
11.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  A. Macarthur @11    2 months ago

WOW!!!  That is a fabulous derivative.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11.2  Kavika   replied to  A. Macarthur @11    2 months ago

That is just beautiful, Mac.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
11.3  Gsquared  replied to  A. Macarthur @11    2 months ago

Spectacular!

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12  Dig    2 months ago

Spring is progressing. The oaks have started tasseling out with catkins, filling the air with that yellowish pollen that gets everywhere. :)

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A cardinal in the snowball bush.

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Irises.

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Indigo buntings returned yesterday.

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Eastern towhees have been back for a few weeks.

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The hummingbirds have returned, too. They didn't visit the feeder while I was waiting with the camera, but some honey bees did.

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April's bounty, asparagus from the garden. I've been getting about this much every two or three days.

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The weather is still being freaky. It was hot like summer for a while, but now it's cool again, and there's been very little rain so far. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
12.1  charger 383  replied to  Dig @12    2 months ago

Garden time is fast approaching 

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.1.1  Dig  replied to  charger 383 @12.1    2 months ago

Most of the potatoes I planted early survived the handful of frosts and freezes that happened after the warm winter fooled me, and they look like they're doing well. It's kind of weird to have those green, growing rows in the middle of an otherwise bare garden. 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.2  devangelical  replied to  Dig @12    2 months ago

yikes. you need one of those highway maintenance tractors to cut the grass in that yard.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
12.2.1  shona1  replied to  devangelical @12.2    2 months ago

Couple of sheep would do the trick.. portable lawn mowers, free fertilizer and roast lamb...yum..

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.2.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  shona1 @12.2.1    2 months ago

Watch out for those sheep.  I just read an article, that I may post, about the sheep that killed the shepherds.

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.2.3  Dig  replied to  devangelical @12.2    2 months ago

It takes several hours, usually split up over a couple of evenings, but it's really not so bad. A lot of it is open with nothing to mow around. 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
12.2.4  shona1  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.2.2    2 months ago

Arvo...if it was in NZ it was a pensioner couple it killed..

Was a ram and killed the man first and his wife went looking for him..the ram killed her as well and the police shot it...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.2.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  shona1 @12.2.4    2 months ago

Yep, a pair of 80-year-olds in NZ.  It was a ram that did it.  I'd venture that it rammed them, and I guess they couldn't dodge it. .  

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
12.2.7  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @12.2.4    2 months ago

crickey, even the f'n sheep are killers south of the equator and west of the dateline.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
12.2.8  shona1  replied to  devangelical @12.2.7    2 months ago

We are all just one big food chain down here..not my photo..😁

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devangelical
Professor Principal
12.2.9  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @12.2.8    2 months ago

wearing ozmani suits...

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
12.2.10  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.2.5    2 months ago

Here's how it happened being creative with Mopar Car names:

The Intrepid farmer Darted into the field like a Roadrunner, raising a Fury in the Ram. Possessed by a Demon, like a redeyed Hellcat, it became a Charger at this Challenger.  The farmer made a Valiant effort to get away but ended up a Duster

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.2.11  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @12.2.10    2 months ago

LOL

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dig @12    2 months ago

Great photos, as usual.  My wife's vegetable garden is a full year's occupation.  

 
 
 
Dig
Professor Participates
12.3.1  Dig  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @12.3    2 months ago

I kind of like having winters off, lol.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
12.3.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dig @12.3.1    2 months ago

I don't think my wife wants to stop.  Remember, she grew up on a farm and is not at all afraid of hard work so for her it's a labour of love.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
12.4  Gsquared  replied to  Dig @12    2 months ago

Wonderful photos, as always, Dig.  Your place is awesome!

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14  Kavika     2 months ago

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"No, it's not a painting and it wasn't photoshopped either. These are polar stratospheric clouds over Iceland.”
Polar stratospheric ice clouds (naked clouds) form at temperatures below the ice sublimation point, usually around −85 °C, a temperature lower than the average temperature of the lower stratosphere.
While I was transforming from a grizzly bear to an eagle over Iceland I snapped these photos, I thought that you humans might like them. 
 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Expert
14.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @14    2 months ago

I've seen the Northern Lights from my lakeside home in Ontario, but they were NOTHING compared to those. 

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
14.2  shona1  replied to  Kavika @14    2 months ago

Evening...oh wow they are stunning pictures..I thought they were paintings at first...

Never seen anything like those...we have the Southern lights (Aurora Australis) but nothing like that...

Not my photos...

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devangelical
Professor Principal
14.2.1  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @14.2    2 months ago

nice

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
14.2.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @14.2    2 months ago

Saw similar sights from my time at McMurdo Station, Antarctica back in the late 80's. I will never forget them.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
14.2.3  shona1  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @14.2.2    2 months ago

Morning Ed...it's feels like I am in Antarctica at the moment..just got up it's 5C and there is frost on the ground...got a magnificent sunrise though...

Just turned the heater on and waiting for the toast to cook..the first major decision for the day what to put on it...but think Vegemite will win..

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Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
14.2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @14.2.3    2 months ago

I forget that the seasons are pretty much reversed from the Northern Hemisphere. It is getting on into summer here.

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
14.2.5  shona1  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @14.2.4    2 months ago

Morning...sigh..yes I know.. Summer seems so far away now..sob..

No sun, surf or sand for months here now being in the Southern State of Victoria..

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
14.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  shona1 @14.2.5    2 months ago

I remember in 1990 I flew from California to Christchurch, New Zealand in May for a couple of weeks, courtesy of the US Government. It was nice and balmy and warm in Southern California, but in Christchurch it was cold, windy, and rainy. Good thing I had warm clothes with me.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.2.7  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @14.2.5    2 months ago

just get one of those insulated wet suits, black, with black swim fins ...

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
14.2.8  shona1  replied to  devangelical @14.2.7    2 months ago

You are not referring to me as shark bait by any chance??

That would look awfully like a seal..and a snack takeaway by jaws

Speaking of which a young boy got attacked y'day in South Australia.. Lucky he didn't lose his leg..

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.2.9  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @14.2.8    2 months ago

I just assumed the seals fed on the sharks down there in oz...

what was the kid doing in the surf during winter, making gazpacho?

 
 
 
shona1
Professor Quiet
14.2.10  shona1  replied to  devangelical @14.2.9    2 months ago

Errr no not winter here yet..only half way through Autumn..same as you are half way through Spring..

Nahh the kid is fine..was just a few chomp marks so he will be right...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.2.11  devangelical  replied to  shona1 @14.2.10    2 months ago

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.2.12  devangelical  replied to  devangelical @14.2.7    2 months ago

and a black rubber bathing cap with some insulated black gloves ...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.3  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @14    2 months ago

wow, those look like clouds that G2 got a hold of.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
14.3.1  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @14.3    2 months ago

You mean sort of like this?

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(© G. Gam)

I'm just playing along.  There is no comparison between Kavika's photos, and shona's, too, and what I posted.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
14.3.2  Kavika   replied to  Gsquared @14.3.1    2 months ago
I'm just playing along.

And you're doing a really good job of it, G.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
14.3.3  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @14.3.1    2 months ago

yup.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
14.4  Gsquared  replied to  Kavika @14    2 months ago

Amazing.

 
 
 
A. Macarthur
Professor Guide
15  author  A. Macarthur    2 months ago

Thanks to all, back Thursday night.

 
 

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