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Kaiser-Darrin KF-161: slide and prejudice

  
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Kaiser-Darrin KF-161: slide and prejudice
 

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Kaiser-Darrin KF-161: slide and prejudice

The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161's novelty doors and unorthodox looks couldn't save it as America turned to V8 power


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If you consider that between the end of WW2 and the introduction of the Corvette in 1953 there are thought to have been 50 low-volume American sports cars in production, then the Kaiser-Darrin counts as one of the more credible‘mainstream’attempts.




The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 was a one-year-only glamour boat, built to the tune of 435 examples.






Enough, in other words, to make it a rarity with a certain recognition factor, rather than a vanishingly scarce oddity such as the Edwards America, the Glasspar G2 or the one-off, irony-free zone that was the Gaylord.




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161’s party piece was its sliding doors, which had a tendency to stick, or even open, of their own accord

With its three-position ‘landau’ top and range of jaunty colour options (Pine-Tint Green, red, yellow and Champagne White), the Darrin had a lot of female admirers and sold mostly to wealthy West Coast buyers who were best able to appreciate its open-topped charms, laid-back character and party-trick doors.

The fact that the hood leaked and was a long-winded fiddle to erect made the car even more suited to the Californian environment.











Freewheeling Hollywood stylist Howard ‘Dutch’ Darrin had been smitten with the idea of sliding doors since the 1920s.




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The Kaiser-Darrin's curvy body is made from glassfibre






He made his name creating some of the prettiest Brewster and LeBaron bodywork for 30s  Packards , and even co-directed a coachbuilding enterprise in Paris before patenting his‘pocket door system in 1946.

They didn't hinge outward, but slid forward, on ball-bearing runners at first, into the bays formed within the giant front wings.

Plenty of vans and a handful of cars have, before and since, used doors that slide rather than hinge, but I can't think of another one on which the door disappears into the front wing.




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The stylish badge on the one-year-only Kaiser-Darrin KF-161





As with the  BMW  Z1 some 40 years later (whose doors dropped into the sills), the ability to drive around with one – or both – of the doors stored out of sight doubtless tickled Kaiser-Darrin owners in the novelty-hungry early 1950s.

Problems with runners that either got stuck or allowed the doors to slide open on hills must have made that novelty short-lived, although earnest attempts were made to improve the sliding mechanism.

Ingress and exit – surely a minimum requirement of a car door – was not all that easy even when they worked properly.




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‘Like the first six-cylinder Corvettes, the Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 should have been a good way of building up showroom traffic’

The functionally dubious pocket doors were both the Darrin’s claim to fame and perhaps its worst feature.

They were, at least, a truly unique element of a car that promised – if you only road-tested the specification crib-sheet – to be underwhelming on the open highway.

A low-revving  Willys  F-head straight-six with a three-speed gearbox did not speak of thrilling performance: it managed 95mph on 90bhp and 0-60mph in a yawning 15 secs.




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This example came from a museum in Missouri





Neither did the fact that the two-seater was based on the Kaiser Henry J, a ‘working man’s’ utility car with all the sex appeal of a bus shelter: under a different badge it even suffered the indignity of being sold through the Sears catalogue, alongside vests, clock radios and ladies’ girdles.

In fairness, the baby Kaiser drove better than it looked (not difficult, admittedly), but it misjudged the American appetite for budget motoring in an age when fuel was cheap and domestic cars were getting bigger, not smaller.

Its engine proved resistant to the performance upgrades required to give Darrin’s roadster respectable urge (production models would get a stronger, 2.6-litre straight-six built by Continental for the Willys Aero saloon), but the Kaiser’s coil-spring-and-wishbone front suspension was adequate at the very least and the drum brakes better than most.




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Just 435 Kaiser-Darrin KF-161s were built during a one-year production run

Darrin, a design consultant to Kaiser, saw the potential and created the roadster body in clay over the Henry J chassis in his own time.

He invited Henry Kaiser to Santa Monica to see the running prototype, which had been built by Bill Tritt of boatmaker Glasspar, early 1952.





The tycoon was not best pleased with the idea of a sports car bearing his name.

He had already torn Darrin off a strip or two when his new – and much younger – wife piped up: Mrs Kaiser loved the car, thus causing her husband to reconsider and give the project his blessing.




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The KF-161’s tail-lights were from the Kaiser Manhattan

Mr Kaiser would live to regret the decision, but had much bigger fish to fry because his motor-mogul dreams were already crumbling around him.

The losses incurred on this sports car project are thought to have been more than $10,000,000.

Even Henry J Kaiser, rarely on the wrong end of a deal, couldn’t afford to drop that kind of money on a whim; it has been suggested that each car cost $25,000 to build.

The last official Kaiser-Darrins – billed as ‘America’s newest and finest sports car’ – were completed in August 1954.




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Leather seats were an option in this classic car, but the Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 came with tinted glass as standard





When a snowstorm destroyed the Michigan special-projects factory in which they were built, Kaiser saw a chance to draw a line under the affair: he sold the last 50 unfinished bodies to Darrin, who built them up with supercharged engines and retailed the cars via his own LA showroom.

Six of these are believed to have been fitted with Cadillac overhead-valve V8s, giving the 2200lb Darrin 140mph potential.

Kaiser was a house- and shipbuilding tycoon with huge drive and an all-American ‘can do’ attitude who, post-war, fancied he could break the stranglehold of America’s Big Three in the rapidly expanding automotive field, buoyed by government loans and a conveniently vacant former fighter-aircraft factory.




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161’s sculpted cockpit has a European flavour

Like many other independents, this formidable character underestimated the public’s taste for ever-bigger, glitzier automotive offerings, usually with V8 engines.

His homely-looking Kaiser saloons, lacking both cylinders and sex appeal, were outgunned by the all-new designs from General Motors,  Ford  and  Chrysler  in the late ’40s.





It’s just possible he saw the Kaiser-Darrin as a means of adding gloss to the image of the slow-selling Manhattan and Henry J.

Like the first six-cylinder Corvettes, it should have been a good way of building up showroom traffic.




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The chrome bumper underpins the KF-161’s elegant rear

The Kaiser-Darrin has several claims to fame beyond those doors, chief among them being the use of glassfibre-reinforced plastic for its body.

It was built in seven sections (initially to a good standard by Glasspar) and would have beaten the Corvette into production with this new, cheap-to-tool-up-for wonder-material had the project not been delayed by technical difficulties with the body moulds, as well as legislative issues.

Dutch Darrin’s bumperless 1952 prototype – differing from the production model by way of its split windscreen, column change, wire wheels and single passenger-side exhaust – fell victim to new rules on headlight height that, along with problems sourcing a suitable engine, delayed deliveries until January 1954.




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‘The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 is a longer, wider vehicle than it looks in pictures, with a handsome rear end that is somewhat redolent of a Mercedes-Benz 190SL’





By that time much of the goodwill and momentum the first six prototypes had generated at its LA Motorama and New York show appearances had been squandered.

Even if it had reached production sooner, its high price would have sealed the Kaiser’s fate.

At $3668 the Kaiser-Darrin KF-161, complete with seatbelts as standard, cost $145 more than a Corvette, or about the same price as one of the lesser species of  Cadillac  or  Lincoln .




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 is an incongruous sight on Yorkshire roads, but it’s a rare spot anywhere

Leather seats, bolt-on wire wheels and a sleek hardtop were on the short options list, but standard luxury features such as tinted glass, Perspex sidescreens, a white steering wheel, a cigar lighter and whitewall tyres sweetened the deal for those who could live with the unusual styling and the lack of urge.

Critics either loved or loathed the bizarre soapdish ‘grille’, while Darrin declared himself unhappy with the changes made to his front wing line.

More of a problem was the  Jaguar XK120 , which for an extra $400 trounced the eccentric Kaiser on all fronts, as did the much cheaper  MG  and  Triumph  TR competition.




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This Kaiser-Darrin's owner restored its white steering wheel





Bill Smith of Mexborough has had a lifelong fascination with American cars.

Having owned a Chevy Corvair,  Mercury  Turnpike Cruiser,  Dodge  Business Coupe and many others over the years, he was in the mood for something different when he went looking for a Kaiser-Darrin.

“I first saw one in an encyclopaedia of American cars in the 1970s,” he says. “The shape just grabbed me.”

Values have risen since then, but Bill, a former coachbuilder and musician, and the owner of an American diner, was in a position to buy a really good one, having done his time with restoration projects.




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161’s indicators follow the grille’s lead, in styling terms

“I Googled it and five came up, including this one in a museum in Missouri,” he says.

Having missed out on a rare factory-black car, Bill did the deal on the Missouri Darrin in June 2021.

“It had been unused since 2018 so there was a bit of recommissioning to do,” he continues. “I’ve just restored the steering wheel.”

This car, sold new in Pennsylvania, was from a quarter of the way through the Kaiser-Darrin production run.




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The Willys F-head ‘six’ makes 90bhp





It was used until 1967 by its first owner and put back on the road in 1984 by its second.

Various mechanical work was done in the early 2000s before it was acquired by the museum in 2018.

Bill is realistic about its shortcomings, particularly the fiddly hood, with its easily misted-up sidescreens.

But he loves the Darrin and is happy to drive it, living with the poor forward vision – you see mostly bonnet rather than road through the windscreen – and tricky walk-in entry through the narrow door opening.

They have only jammed once, and were easily sorted with a squirt of WD40.




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Outright pace isn't the point of this classic Kaiser-Darrin

It is a longer, wider vehicle than it looks in pictures, with a handsome rear end that is somewhat redolent of a  Mercedes-Benz 190SL  and incorporates the big tail-light clusters from the Kaiser Manhattan.

A handle in the long, shallow boot pops the cover for the hood, while under the lengthy bonnet lurks the Willys straight-six, with its lonely Carter carburettor and John Deere-style green cylinder block.

There is a spacious feel and a European look to the cabin, in which the instruments are grouped together in a big,  Austin-Healey -like display – that includes a tachometer – rather than sprawling across the dashboard as in the prototype; the remainder of the fascia is neatly padded.




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161 majors on glamour

The seats are finished in Pine Crush vinyl to match the body, but only the driver’s seat adjusts, and the brake and clutch pedals are too closely spaced for wide feet.

Like most F-head ‘sixes’, this one is smooth and friendly sounding while making sufficient torque to keep progress brisk if not electrifying.

The redline is a modest 4500rpm, but 3000rpm is usually enough, with plenty of urge to spare for taking on hills in top or even overdrive that allows you to kickdown like an automatic into direct drive for overtaking (Bill keeps the Borg-Warner unit permanently engaged by way of a chrome T-handle under the dashboard).




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Whitewall tyres came as standard, as befits the Kaiser-Darrin KF-161’s luxury billing

The nifty-looking gearlever appears promisingly sporty but has long movements and cannot be rushed, particularly into second; in practice, you don’t need to use it very often.

With its light and surprisingly direct steering, the low-built, wide-track Kaiser-Darrin is not a handful to drive.

It lopes along benignly on supple springs that manage to avoid teasing too many squeaks out of the bodyshell, while allowing it to corner neatly with the minimum of tyre squeal and understeer.




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The Kaiser-Darrin KF-161’s soapdish ‘grille’ is a talking point

It is not a car for aggressive, intemperate drivers, but is instead a gentle soul that merely seeks to help its owner cut a sporting dash at the country club.

Love them or loathe them, the Kaiser-Darrin’s looks were – and remain today – a talking point that makes any outing an event in a car that still gathers crowds, and queries, like almost nothing else.

Images: Max Edleston



Factfile





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Kaiser-Darrin KF-161

  • Sold/number built  1954/435
  • Construction  steel chassis, glassfibre body
  • Engine  all-iron, sidevalve, F-head 2638cc straight-six, single Carter YF carburettor
  • Max power  90bhp @ 4200rpm
  • Max torque  135lb ft @ 1600rpm
  • Transmission  three-speed manual with overdrive, RWD
  • Suspension:   front  independent, by wishbones, coil springs  rear  live axle, semi-elliptic leaf springs, telescopic dampers f/r
  • Steering  worm and peg
  • Brakes  drums
  • Length  15ft 4in (4674mm)
  • Width  5ft 7½in (1716mm)
  • Height  4ft 2¾in (1291mm)
  • Wheelbase  8ft 4in (2540mm)
  • Weight  2200lb (998kg)
  • Mpg  27-30
  • 0-60mph  15 secs
  • Top speed  95mph
  • Price new  $3668
  • Price now  $100,000*

*Price correct at date of original publication




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Buzz of the Orient
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1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

A long read, but interesting with lots of pictures for classic/vintage car enthusiasts.  The author is a Brit so you will have get through the Brit nomenclature, such as saloon, tyre, boot etc.

 
 
 
charger 383
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2  charger 383    2 months ago

Interesting car. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @2    2 months ago

I thought so.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

Considering that it was 70 years ago and only 435 were ever built, there might only be a few left in existence, making this a pretty rare bird.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    2 months ago

The styling and lines are rather nice except for the tiny grill. Attractive and interesting styling is sadly lacking in American cars today, which come in various shades of ugly. The coming of the Corvette started to turn that around. I owned a couple of VW Beetles but would have preferred to have a Ghia.

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Buzz of the Orient
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4.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Greg Jones @4    2 months ago

Talking about a small grill....the Ghia has TWO of them.

I guess you would really not like the Studebaker Avanti.

800

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.1.1  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.1    2 months ago

Cool car but looks like something is missing.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @4.1.1    2 months ago

We're creatures of habit - there has always been a grill so when there isn't one, it's as if something is wrong.

 
 
 
Krishna
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4.2  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @4    2 months ago
The styling and lines are rather nice except for the tiny grill

I agree-- nice looking car.

Except for that horrible looking grille!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Krishna @4.2    2 months ago

It's a matter of individual personal taste.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Krishna @4.2    one month ago
Except for that horrible looking grille!

A nice-looking grille could be found on Heinrich Himmler's 1943 Mercedez-Benz 770, which survived the war in fairly good shape.

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Himmler also owned a second home for his mistress, which once belonged to Sigmund Freud.  Himmler died under controversial circumstances when under the custody of British forces.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.3  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.2    one month ago
Himmler died under controversial circumstances

Himmler, like other cowardly Nazi leaders (Hitler, Goring, Goebbels) committed suicide.  He bit into a cyanide capsule he had hidden.  I hope it was an extremely painful death.

Goebbels and his wife not only killed themselves, they also killed their six children using cyanide capsules.

As for Himmler's piece of shit car, it should be taken out and burned to ashes.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.3    one month ago
 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.5  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.4    one month ago
That is in dispute.

Not with any credibility.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.5    one month ago

Read the link

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.5    one month ago
credibility.

Even the Russians questioned it.

His body was exhumed twice. His teeth had been removed as was his brain. The Russians had his dental records and were never allowed to examine him. They can debate it now, but we'll never know. A multitude of things could have happened.

I always liked this documentary on it:

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.8  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.6    one month ago

I did.  Did you?

According to your link, the alleged dispute arose from "a minor book by an obscure historian" that was based on documents determined by credible sources to be forgeries.  Even the author of the book realized: “I think I’ve been set up... But I do not even know by whom. I was devastated.”

And frankly, if Himmler was shot by the British, who the fuck cares?  He deserved it.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.9  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.7    one month ago

1.  You believe the Soviets!  Amazing.

2.  Conspiracy theorists fall for all sorts of crap.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.9    one month ago
You believe the Soviets! 

No, I believe historians.


 Conspiracy theorists fall for all sorts of crap.

Look at the facts and stop with the propaganda lingo.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.8    one month ago
"a minor book by an obscure historian" 

He is not the only one. I gave you two.

You gave me nothing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.8    one month ago
And frankly, if Himmler was shot by the British, who the fuck cares?

Then why are you arguing?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.9    one month ago

Okay, no more on this topic, okay?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.14  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.2.12    one month ago

I'm very open to off-topic commentary on my articles, but once they heat up, it's time to stop.  Any more additional comments on the matter and I will start deleting comments as off-topic. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.15  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.13    one month ago

I was about to post additional information from credible sources, but since you have asked I will not post anything further.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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4.2.16  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Gsquared @4.2.15    one month ago
"...since you have asked I will not post anything further."

LOL  You just did.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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4.2.17  Gsquared  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @4.2.16    one month ago

I guess so.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago

This is an interesting car.  This is one that is not built for show but will garner attention. 

There are only 2 things that I don't like about it.  

I can see a lot of problems with the sliding doors.  And the article addresses those problems.

But that grill.  That has got to be the ugliest grill I've seen.  I imagine it works great for the design.  It's just ugly.

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1  charger 383  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    2 months ago

Yes, the grill is way too small.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  charger 383 @5.1    2 months ago

It is.  The placement doesn't help either.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @5.1    2 months ago

Just curious, do EVs need a grill?

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1.3  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.2    2 months ago

Most Corvettes were good without them,  Plymouth Superbirds had a small low air intake grill, older VWs did not have grills

People are used to seeing a grill, but some cars had too much of a grill.  

Then there was the Edsel's grill ! 

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1.4  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.2    2 months ago

Don't know for functionality but for looks maybe

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.5  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @5.1.3    2 months ago

Yes, the Edsel's grill was quite distinctive, in fact rather suggestive.

800

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5    2 months ago

You think that's ugly?  How do you feel about the Studebaker Champion grill?

1950-studebaker-champion-convertible

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2    2 months ago

I think it's more fitting to the style and form of the car as a whole.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.1    2 months ago

Chacun a son gout.

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     2 months ago

Cool car with sliding doors no less.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kavika @6    2 months ago

As the author points out, sliding doors are more common these days, but not disappearing ones. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
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7  Freefaller    2 months ago

That is a very nice looking car

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @7    2 months ago

Although other cars are mentioned in the comments, I assume you mean the Kaiser.

 
 
 
Freefaller
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7.1.1  Freefaller  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.1    2 months ago

It is

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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7.1.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Freefaller @7.1.1    2 months ago

Okay.

 
 
 
charger 383
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8  charger 383    2 months ago

Just saw on the preview,  of these will be sold on Meachem Auction on TV

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    2 months ago

Can you post a link to what you saw?

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
9.1  charger 383  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    2 months ago

www.mecum.com

It is a big high end live auction of all kinds of cars, 

I recognized the   Kaiser-Darrin from the article when they were doing a quick preview

I don't know if you can get Motor Trend TV channel.  

you can see cars of past auctions on their website

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  charger 383 @9.1    2 months ago

I could open the mecum link - saw the cars being auctioned.  No, the Motor Trend TV channel is not available here. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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10  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

Although it's somewhat unusual for one of my articles or seeds to be on the Front (Home) Page for two weeks, it is no surprise these days that my Movie Game disappears quickly.  The way that it is going, it may soon disappear entirely. 

 
 

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