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The symmetric property of 2 Timothy 3:16

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  9 years ago  •  9 comments

The symmetric property of 2 Timothy 3:16

James McGrath writes about 2 Timothy 3:16 the favorite verse of those who assert their authority by defending the authority of the scriptures.

My fundamentalist friends, bless em, love to recite this verse in response to any question about the infallibility or inerrancy or literal interpretation of the Bible. All scripture is inspired by God and isuseful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.

Screenshot-2015-10-05-at-2.10.50-AM.png?width=350 This usually leads to a long series of go-rounds on the carousel of this circular argument. They genuinely, but frustratingly, do not seem to understand that quoting scripture in defense of scripture doesnt actually address the question being asked. Logically, that amounts to concluding that someone cannot possibly be lying to you because they insist theyre telling the truth.

Its easy, then, to get so caught up in that logical loop-de-loop that we miss the more basic problem with this claim that 2 Timothy 3:16 is an argument for the infallibility or inerrancy of scripture that this isnt what that verse says. At all.

This verse doesnt claim that scripture is authoritative, or infallible, or inerrant. It claims that scripture is useful. As McGrath puts it: The focus is entirely on behavior. Scriptures are not said to impart right doctrine, but to be useful in training people in living a particular way.

That becomes clearer if we look more closely at the last word in that verse: righteousness. Thats a lousy, misleading English translation of a word that often is not and I think never should be translated that way. The Greek word there is dikaiosyne . And it means justice.

Those words righteousness and justice, or righteous and just, may once have been closer synonyms in our language. We can think of some medieval king or pope nicknamed The Righteous or The Just and imagine those words, used in that way, as being closely related. But they do not seem as closely related now. They have each acquired a distinct set of properties, connotations, and implications that have, over time, separated and distinguished them from one another to the extent that, today, it almost seems easier to use them as antonyms than as synonyms.

Righteousness has thus come to imply a kind of moral rectitude a kind of law-abiding, rule-following piety concerned primarily with the moral standing of the righteous person. Justice doesnt carry all of that. What it carries, instead, is the sense of that original Greek word, dikaiosyne . It remains intrinsically bound up with ideas like fairness and right relationship. We thus speak of bringing criminals to justice, but not of bringing them to righteousness, or of getting ones just deserts, but not of ones righteous deserts. We use and understand the word self-righteous, but we struggle to compose its equivalent for justice.

So, yet again, I would say that to best understand 2 Timothy 3:16, we should use the more accurate translation for that final word: justice. And then we should note that this word is not followed by a period, but by a comma. The punctuation in our Bibles is also a work of translation, of course, but even without punctuation, the logic and grammar here shows that this is only the first part of a single sentence one that continues in the following verse:

All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in justice, so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.

That reinforces and amplifies McGraths point. This isnt about doctrine or dogma, but about behavior about training people in living a particular way.

And that particular way has to do with justice. Justice is what 2 Timothy 3:16 says scripture is for . But justice is the very thing that our fundie friends ignore completely in their efforts to hijack this passage into an assertion about epistemology. Thats what all that talk about infallibility and inerrancy really aims for a shortcut to absolute epistemological certainty.

The allure of such absolute certainty, I think, stems from two motives one of which is more sympathetic than the other. First, it stems from the fear of uncertainty which is to say the fear of responsibility (about which more later). Thats understandable but, alas, responsibility cannot be eluded by the simple shortcut of claiming irresponsibility. The second motive is also understandable, but not as noble. Absolute certainty is attractive because it can be weaponized and wielded as a claim of absolute power the authoritative trump card that can be played to compel others to submit to your own certain authority.

Those two motives are intertwined, of course, fear and power usually are.

Anyway, James McGrath concludes with a provocative suggestion for how to read 2 Timothy 3:16. Flip it around and read it back-to-front as well as front-to-back:

Rather than first defining a particular collection of texts as scripture (something 2 Timothy does not do, nor does any other work in the Bible), and then assuming they must be useful and beneficial, perhaps we ought to start with texts that are useful and beneficial, and treat those as not just scriptures (which simply means writings) but as special, even sacred.

This should lead us to ask whether hate-filled texts are useful or beneficial, and if not, what that means for their status as scripture.

Thats interesting. Is the claim in this verse, indeed, symmetrical? It appears to be. A = B it says. That would seem to mean, necessarily, that B = A. If Scripture = that which is useful for training in justice, then that which is useful for training in justice = scripture. And that which is not, perhaps, is not.

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Bob Nelson
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link   seeder  Bob Nelson    9 years ago

"Inerrancy" fascinates me. It should suffice to point out that referring to the Bible to prove the Book's inerrancy is circular reasoning, an obvious fallacy.

That approach ignores the fact that belief in inerrancy is faith-based, untouchable by reason. So when I converse with believers in inerrancy, I prefer to meet them on their ground: to show them that the Bible does not say what they think it says.

This seed is an excellent example of this approach.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    9 years ago

Bob,

Most of the time, the bible is misinterpreted because of the multiple translation to start with. That would be a good starting point. You can not interpret if you have the wrong words in front of you.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   JohnRussell    9 years ago

This usually leads to a long series of go-rounds on the carousel of this circular argument. They genuinely, but frustratingly, do not seem to understand that quoting scripture in defense of scripture doesnt actually address the question being asked. Logically, that amounts to concluding that someone cannot possibly be lying to you because they insist theyre telling the truth.

I have been approached on the street, on occasion, by someone proselytizing on behalf of The Bible who would make such and such a claim for "The Word Of God", and when you ask them how they know it is the word of God they say "because it is in the Bible" . They "prove" that the Bible is the truth by citing The Bible as the authority on whether or not the Bible is true.

At that point all you can do is walk away.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   seeder  Bob Nelson    9 years ago

Yes. That was the point of the paragraphs concerning the translation ofdikaiosyne.

When I see people today still insisting on using KJV...

* * * sigh * * *

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   seeder  Bob Nelson    9 years ago

Sometimes all you can do is walk away... But some other times, the person will cite chapter and verse. And when they do, they're wrong most of the time.

IMHO, the first step is to get them to question an interpretation. Any interpretation. If they can be brought to say, "Yes... I suppose that there could be two interpretations..." then the next subject is "Is it possible to have two different 'true' interpretations?

Circular reasoning is a fallacy. In formal debate, circular reasoning is a BIG no-no. If the adversary points it out, the debate is lost. But when we are conversing, exchanging ideas, there is no judge to say "Game over!" It's a huge win, just to get a Believer to imagine that there might be an interpretation other than the Preacher's

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   seeder  Bob Nelson    9 years ago

True.

Still... In the words of St Bob

He who has backslid once may yet backslide again!

 
 

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