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Father’s Painful Letter of Rejection To Gay Son After Coming Out, Goes Viral

  

Category:  Religion & Ethics

Via:  rescue  •  13 years ago  •  116 comments

Father’s Painful Letter of Rejection To Gay Son After Coming Out,  Goes Viral

This is a letter that a "father" wrote to his son when the son came out to him, and told him he was gay. I specifically used the word father in quotes because this, in my mind, is not a father.

Children, even those grown should be loved unconditionally.,That should be the definition of a parent. This man is a sperm donor.

We may not like what our children do, or approval of the decisions they make but the love should not be withdrawn.

James: This is a difficult but necessary letter to write. I hope your telephone call was not to receive my blessing for the degrading of your lifestyle. I have fond memories of our times together, but that is all in the past. Dont expect any further conversations With me. No communications at all. I will not come to visit, nor do I want you in my house. Youve made your choice though Wrong it may be. God did not intend for this unnatural lifestyle. If you choose not to attend my funeral, my friends and family will understand. Have a good birthday and good life. No present exchanges will be accepted. Goodbye, Dad.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/fathers-hateful-letter-to-gay-son-after-coming-out-goes-viral/news/2012/08/07/45756

I find it interesting and sad that the father was concerned about what God intended.

God loves us, and that man, and the son unconditionally. He was willing to send His own Son to the Cross, and yet this man has no tolerance for his son. I wonder if he believes that everything he does is acceptable in God's sight because it isn't.

Such pain is caused, and the more some on the right particularly the religious right, come out with hatred, the more damage they do not only to those who are gay, but for non Christians, who look and say if this is a Christian, if this is what following Christ means, I want none of it. That's the biggest sin of all.


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Petey Coober
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Sorry but I don't see this letter as hateful . He did not use words of attack only of separation . The father clearly expressed his belief system even if it is unenlightened .

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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RD ,

If the original article is the source of the title then there is no need to change it . Oops , it looks like you already did ...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    13 years ago

Mike,

No. We have no proof that it's real. But I know a story just like this and so does Larry Hampton. Larry left his church and the seminary over such an issue (his friend was dying of AIDS) and my friend's father did the same to him. This is a terrible thing, when it happens, and even if this letter is a fake, and it may well be, I know of it does happen.

I don't know if it comes from hate, but is surely comes from ignorance and selfrighteousness.

BTW neat letter. How did you do it?

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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How ? Lessee , a piece of paper , a scanner and an imagination ... there ya go ...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    13 years ago

LOL.. this is true. I just didn't think that you could scan into the computer and have it readable.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

hmmm...I guess I'll need to start using my scanner more often.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Now I'm scared!

 
 
 
Pedro
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I'm convinced!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Damn! I want one! It's a keepsake.

Wait... he's a Leo. Does that work for me?

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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My question is: was the son saved/professing Christ?

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

God is definitely a cruel bastard.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Well I don't know about the hate part but it did take courage for the father to stand against his son-lots of courage.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

It really didnt take courage actually. He took a meaningless stand against his own son because he didnt understand or approve of his son, and cut off all ties. I would say the father was not only NOT courageous, but was in fact a complete coward. Pathetic piece of shit really.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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God loves us, and that man, and the son unconditionally. He was willing to send His own Son to the Cross, and yet this man has no tolerance for his son. I wonder if he believes that everything he does is acceptable in God's sight because it isn't.

Maybe you should not makestatementsthat you areignoranton RescueDogs like God's word. Your just trying to get an emotionalresponsefromeveryone.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Going with you on this one Peter.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Arch-Man
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Don't Perrie, it's just a hate God stance.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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You take Mike way to seriously, John.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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You know.. the thing I was wondering about, is if the father's choice not to talk to his son, will be forced upon the mother?

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

There is no god to hate. There are gay people though. Do the math.

 
 
 
Feddy
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link   Feddy    13 years ago

First off I'd like to state for the record that I am in fact a Christian.

Having said that I have to disagree with you Arch-Man. What part of Rescue's statement was ignorant? Did not God send his own Son to the Cross? Yes he did. That doesn't sound to me like Rescue is ignorant of God.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

Are we back to the whole, "my understanding of god is the only understanding of god" theme? Personally, I find RD's understanding to be, if nothing else, far more compliant with reality than yours Arch.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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That's youropinion, I say there is.

 
 
 
Pedro
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I think that is clearly implied. Nobody man so religiously volatile would accept deviation from his edicts, what I perceive as a necessarily submissive wife.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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She didn't answer my first question if the son was aprofessingchristian.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

No, you say that i hate god. That is simply not possible since there is no god, your beliefs notwithstanding.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Fine, she makesstatements that are not clear.

 
 
 
Pedro
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I tolerate cutting things with knives. Not so much with spoons though. Also, cutting things with lasers seems incredibly awesome!

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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You say their is no God so your opinion is meaningless on this subject.

 
 
 
Feddy
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Sorry. That was me. 9.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Arch,

I am not hating god. I am hating how this man hasinterpretedthe word of god. Whether a person believes in god or doesn't, they shouldn't ever be that selfrighteous. Besides, if there is a god, he made gays, too.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

Actually, it is likely the best opinion, since it isnt clouded with all that cray-cray religious crap. If only you could see these issues with an unclouded mind, you would probably be embarrassed by some of your postings here.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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She's a practicing Christian, Arch. She does know the word of god. What everyone takes away from the bibles passages, is up tointerpretation.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Bruce,

If your child came to you and told you they were gay, what would you do?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    13 years ago

LOL... who would think that a little piggy could do that?

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Perrie: God didn't make us gay.

RescueDogs: Answer my question first, is the son saved?

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

I predict Bruce would make some gay jokes and ask some probing questions, then just accept his son for who he was, even though he finds homosexuality distasteful. Just a guess, but that is my sense of who Bruce is. Of course, the gay jokes wouldnt stop, lol.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

"Perrie: God didn't make us gay."

Did god tell you that herself? Or are you creating your own word of god....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Mike,

God didn't kill his son. His son had a choice. Remember in the garden he asks why does he have to die? It was the Romans who killed Jesus, god just knew it was coming and Jesus knew the job at task.

This guy is terrible for the same reason that the Westboro Baptist Church is terrible. He is twisting the word of god and letting it out on other people.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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You have now thrown down the gauntlet!

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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You still haven't answered the question and don't worry about my response just get the facts right before you just postcontroversy.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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This coming from a guy who is anatheist.

 
 
 
Feddy
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Not I said the pig! lol Sorry that's from a children's story. I can't remember which one though. lol Grin.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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I'm sorry Mel. Missed that one.

 
 
 
Feddy
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Bruce it's not the fact that the guy thinks homosexuality is abnormal that bothers me. What bothers me is the fact that he would disown his son because of it. I just thought that was a little extreme.

 
 
 
Pedro
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Actually, it was the Border Patrol:

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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She still hasn't answered my question and don't tell me she knows the word.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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I remember! I remember! Little Red Hen!

(Can you tell I taughtelementaryschool???)

 
 
 
Feddy
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Well I guess that means you and I would never get along. I snore! Loudly too! lmao Grin.gif

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Feddy
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You're right! See all those years teaching elementary school paid off. You should go on jeopardy. lol Grin.gif

Perrie I'm having trouble replying to comments. It did it to me last night too. It says there is no message there when there is. What do I do?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Bruce,

No one is holding a gun to your head making you talk. You are right that you have the right to keep your feelings to yourself. But what you want other people not to discuss how they feel about this. Your right to choose not to discuss and the right of other's to discuss are the same thing. No one is trying to force you accept being gay, but rather they are expressing how they feel. My query to you, was for you to express yourself so that I can better understand you, notembarrassyou.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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For God so lovedthe world that he gavehis one and only Son,that whoever believesin him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Yup... the same thing fur sur

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Stop giving me you opinion and it shows me you don't know the word.

 
 
 
Pedro
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link   Pedro    13 years ago

hmmmm....this is an interesting dilemma that comes up from time to time. Harsh language is indeed not frowned upon here, and is enjoyed by many of our membership. I think that while Bruce might honor your request, he is certainly under no obligation to do so. I'm saying this as a moderator, because, I just wanted it to be clear that as long as the posts are on topic, and the posts are within the posted COC guidelines, language that might be considered foul by some is still completely acceptable. In this regard, you as the author should understand that although you can request that it be left out, it can only ever be a request. This is part and parcel to this site. Should you wish to exercise greater control, said articles should be posted in one of the private groups where you can operate with greater control.

 
 
 
Pedro
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All i know is Bruce is a stand up dude, and I feel he would accept his son even if he didnt really accept homosexuality. Love for your children trumps all.

 
 
 
Feddy
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link   Feddy    13 years ago

I'll try that. But it didn't work last night.

 
 
 
Feddy
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link   Feddy    13 years ago

Ok now I can post a reply like normal. Weird!!!

 
 
 
Feddy
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link   Feddy    13 years ago

Ok. Thanks for the info and the help. Grin.gif

 
 
 
Feddy
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Oh noes! I am disowned! (falls down dead) lol

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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The issue isignorantpeople who clam to know God's word and what others think about homosexuality and don't waste your time on proving yourself.

 
 
 
Feddy
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Don't leave Rescue! 12.gif

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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I will.

 
 
 
Pedro
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I dont think that either option is optimal. I do think in the future, should you prefer no cursing in your article, you should make that clear in your article itself rather than in a comment later on. In that way, you will have actually set a control for your article that would then give you the ability to moderate such in your article. I view this as part of the learning process for new members.

 
 
 
Feddy
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D'Wayne I just love your purple writing! Purple is my favorite! lol Grin.gif

 
 
 
Pedro
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Thank you. I try not to wear it too often though. :)

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Randy in your case it doesn't but she broughtChristianityinto it. So if they are Christians then they are bound to obey God's word not go on their own feelings, that's my point.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Arch,

There are all kinds of Christians and they eachinterpretthe bible in a different way. Many active Christiandenominationsdon't feel that being gay is a sin. So, in that way, she isn't wrong. It just depends on whichdenomination you belong to.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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The Bible is clear on this, just cause a denomination choses to not accept what the word says they start their own church. God's word doesn't change and this topic is not clouded, the father has no choice but to obey what is clear in scripture. Sin is sin, God doesn't have to change we do.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    13 years ago

We disagree on a number of things, and we disagree on this. I can bow out of the discussion, or take the seed down.

RD,
The author of a seed has the ultimate say over a seed. You need not leave or take the seed down. Since you are new here, your request will be upheld, but D'Wayne is right. In the future, if you don't wantcursing, then make sure to state it in the beginning.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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By the way those that say they are Christian and don't abide in the Apostles teaching are not Christian.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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I think that would be a very offensive comment to other Christians. There are many ways tointerpretwhat the Jesus said, and it is what Jesus said that matters.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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LOL, I read that asheresy... and then I had to think about who it was coming from!24.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    13 years ago

Most excellent points and I see you know your oldtestamentvery well, RD! You forgot wool and linen blends, forbidden! Eating milk and meat, forbidden!

Leviticus is such a fun book, LOL!

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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The Apostles teaching areChrist's. Homosexuality is a sin, their is nothing to interpret.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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link   Arch-Man    13 years ago

Where talking about the New Covenant not the old, so it's in Christ teachings and it stillshowsme youdon'tunderstand the New.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Whatdo you think Paul was teaching anotherGospel? Stop speaking lies.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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I'm not wasting no more time on this believe what you want. Just don't try to sell me on it!

 
 
 
Neale Osborn
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Personally, I can't understand all of you who fail to properly honor the trans-dimensional space squids, who saw the empty universe, and found it good. So they pooped in it. from this poop sprang all the beings of the universe. To honor the space squids, we eat fried calamari with a nice marinara sauce to dip it into. And on High Holy Days, we add an al dente pasta, usually a thin linguini, and a beverage of your choice. Grin.gif

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Jesusdoesn'thave to He was a Jew andobservedthe law and what theProphets' wrote. I said you were not speaking the truth. No lie is of the truth. You want to tell me it's ok to be homosexual and Christian, no you can't.

 
 
 
Neale Osborn
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I must say, at the risk of offending, that anyone following the teachings of the Lord who claims that their interpretation os the only one possible has obviously never read the entire bible, cover to cover. Should I choose to once again immerse myself in those murky, half insane maunderings of neolithic goatherds, I can use their ramblings to justify everything from burning witches at the stake to abandoning a child for the "sin" of being in love. A "God" who EVER required me to sacrifice my son to prove my love for him is not worthy of respect, let alone devotion or worship. Even if he recanted after the father began the sacrifice. A "God" who would engage in a test to destruction of a man for the hell of it is not worthy of any form of respect. It is pathetic, hell, DISGUSTING acts such as these that caused me to leave the Church at the ripe old age of 17. I was teaching Sunday School when a child asked me why God so tortured Job. After thinking about it that night, I walked away from teaching, and not long after, from the church.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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Matthew 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Leviticus 20:13If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them.

From your quotes.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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I made my point, so about divorce read all the scriptures on it and then you will have the answer.

 
 
 
Arch-Man
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link   Arch-Man    13 years ago

No, just ignoring you.

 
 
 
Ngp256
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link   Ngp256    12 years ago

sure he can castigate his child for being gay. But it's our right to call him out for being the cruel, heartless, bigoted jackass he is.

 
 
 
Ngp256
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link   Ngp256    12 years ago

*rolls eyes*

 
 
 
Ngp256
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link   Ngp256    12 years ago

god didnt make anything. but no there is nothing courageous about what this pathetic excuse for a father did, it's just point blank despicable.

 
 
 
Baron von Steuben
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link   Baron von Steuben    12 years ago

The concept of god is a poison to the mind. This is its natural end.

 
 
 
Aeonpax
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link   Aeonpax    12 years ago

I have no objection to God or the concept of a God or Goddess. Where the problem really comes in is when it's followers, start acting up in such a way that it destroys peace and harmony.

 
 
 
Deb G.
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link   Deb G.    12 years ago

I'd like to share my experience with my gay son and see what you folks think.

My ex-husband stole my son when he was 7 and I didn't find him again until he was 21. We became close and at the time he had a girlfriend. But after a few years they broke up and he disappeared. I found him a few years later and he said he disappeared because he came out and thought I would not accept him. He judged me without any reason to do so except that I am a Christian. I never said a word around him about gays or my feelings about them, he merely judged me without ever giving me a chance. He is still bigotted towards me because I am Christian and will not bring his partner to visit me because he's already decided they can't "be themselves". I have never given him any reason to think he could not be comfortable in my home and neither has my husband or any other family member. We are being judged purely on a label.

When I found him again, I told him I loved him no matter what and he AND his partner were always welcome in my home. He still won't come. It is not my right to judge whether God will be OK with this. It is between him and God. I would love him to follow Christ, so how can I show Christ's love for ALL if I don't love him and not judge him? Jesus did not say believe in me and you will have eternal life, unless you're gay, then forget it. I feel sorry for that father. Christ said "judge not lest ye be judged by the same measure and found wanting". Judging is Christ's job, not mine.

 
 
 
Aeonpax
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link   Aeonpax    12 years ago

Deb,

Personally, I have had more than enough experiences as a child to warrant a utter hatred for Christianity and my so-called parents. They all betrayed me. It's a human thing, grudges that is. But I don't....to a point. As far as religion, there are just too many good people whom are sincere in their Christian faith and whom display love in dealing with others whose faith (or lack of it) is not shared. However, while I no longer seethe in hatred for my ex-parental units, they have become persona non grata.

You have at least made a gesture of love and reconciliation towards your son which is admirable and just. I seldom even think of mine anymore, save an occasional reminder that they exist, which your heartfelt reply jogged in me.

There are three legs to Christianity, I understand. Faith, Love and Hope. Don't give up on the latter.

 
 

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