Do Muslims, Christians and Jews All Believe In The Same God?
I would like to pose this as a yes or no question, which you can then expound on.
Do Muslims, Christians and Jews All Believe In The Same God?
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Monotheistic religions all believe there is only one Supreme Being. Is it not then inescapable that they are worshiping the same Supreme Being?
That being the case, how can non believers or those who are not "born again" be consigned to eternal damnation. What kind of "Supreme Being" would do that?
I know we have a lot of opinions about religion here, so there has to be some answers.
The answer is yes. They all believe they worship the same God that supposedly made a covenant with Abraham. Sarah, Abrahams wife, had an Egyptian slave girl named Hagar of which she gave to Abraham so that she could bear his children as Sarah was apparently barren until she was into her 90's. Abraham fathered Ishmael who was the firstborn, but not of his wife, so when Sarah supposedly became pregnant in her old age and gave birth to Isaac, she asked Abraham to send Hagar and her son away, kicking them out of the house with nothing but bread and a container of water.
" 17 God heard the boy crying, and the Messenger of God called to Hagar from heaven. “What’s the matter, Hagar?” he asked her. “Don’t be afraid! God has heard the boy crying from the bushes. 18 Come on, help the boy up! Take him by the hand, because I’m going to make him into a great nation.” 19 God opened her eyes. Then she saw a well. She filled the container with water and gave the boy a drink. 20 God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became a skilled archer. 21 He lived in the desert of Paran, and his mother got him a wife from Egypt." - Genesis 21: 17-21
"Ishmael is considered a prophet in Islam and is listed in the Quran with other prophets in many instances. Before Islam developed as a religion, Ishmael was depicted in many ways, but after its establishment, Ishmael was almost always seen in a negative light in Jewish and Christian texts, as he becomes the symbol for the "other" in these religions. As the Islamic community became more powerful, some Jewish midrash about Ishmael was modified so that he was portrayed more negatively in order to challenge the Islamic view that Ishmael, and thus the Muslims, were the favored descendants of Abraham. This became the genealogy according to Jewish sources and the Bible, in contrast with the genealogy of Arabs according to Muslims. The development of Islam created pressure for Islam to be somehow different from Judaism and Christianity, and accordingly, Ishmael's lineage to Arabs was stressed. In pre-Islamic times, there were three distinct groups of Arabs- the Ba'ida , Ariba , and Musta'riba . The Ba'ida were the "legendary Arabs of the past," while the Ariba were the "Southern Arabs." Ishmael's descendants became the Northern Arabs known as the Musta'riba or the "Arabized Arabs." The Musta'riba were described as Arabized since it is believed Ishmael learned Arabic when he moved to Mecca and married into the Arabic tribe of Jurhum. Ishmael's line is then traced from his son Kedar, then down through to Adnan, then to the Musta'riba, to the Quraysh. In this manner, Muhammad's ancestry leads back to Ishmael, joining "original biblical ancestry of Abraham with a distinctively Arab afinal stock," and connecting Muhammad with Mecca and the Kaaba." -
So while all three faiths reject the claims by the others, Jews do not recognize Christ as the Messiah, Muslims recognize Ishmael as the rightful heir to Gods promise to Abraham, and Christians believe the covenant was fulfilled with the birth of Christ, they still all have the same root from the same ancient deity. Muslims do believe Christ was one of their Gods prophets however, much like Mohammed, so they actually share more with Christians than those of the Jewish faith who reject Jesus as any such prophet or Messiah.
Absolutely agree, while all three worship the same god they differ on their religions interpretations of what god wants and how it wants to be worshipped.
The three faiths mentioned are all Abrahamic, but there are non-Abrahamic faiths as well. The question of whether or not they worship the same 'god' is like wondering what type of pasta the Flying Spaghetti Monster is made out of. The entire premise of a supernatural realm with a supreme creator entity residing there, is ridiculous on its face.
There is only one God!
But, see, I don't believe in Hell even though I am a Christian Protestant.
How can you logically believe in heaven if you also don't believe in the existence of hell? Obviously not every believer goes to Heaven so what do you believe happens to them? Are they converted to Buddhist/Hindu and reincarnated?
My uncle believed there was a heaven and everyone went there, good and bad, no hell at all. He attended a Catholic church, but this was obviously outside the view of the faith he adhered to.
Yes, yes they doas do all other religions especially those that believe in a supreme being.
Sorry but Quetzalcoatl isn't remotely the same as your imaginary friend. The one true god has scales, feathers, wings and claws.
And you know that how? God can be anything he chooses to be.
All the depictions of your imaginary friend show him with a beard, and they're quite obviously anthropomorphic projections of what male humans look like. The one true god doesn't have a beard since it's a winged serpent and since Quetzalcoatl is real those depictions aren't merely the wishful anthropomorphic projections of misogynistic and delusional men like your imaginary friend is. For example have you ever tried to sex-type a serpent?
What imaginary friend.
God is obviously imaginary, until you can prove that it exists by other than faith or belief.
Why does God exist for you?
You made a claim that God exists, and I am only asking how you know that when you can't prove that claim to me?
Obviously all three Abrahamic cult families worship the Great Sky Wizard of Abraham, but there's far more difference within those cult families than between them. For example Episcopalians, Unitarians and Sufis believe that the Great Sky Wizard is really an enlightened and friendly Great Sky Fairy who loves everyone, while Southern Baptists and Wahhabi Sunnis believe that it's really a Great Sky Demon which only loves True Believers and hates everyone else.
If Christians , Jews and Muslims all believe in the same God, how can Jews and Muslims be sent to hell if they are not "born again" in Christ?
Does God play games?
Of course - the one true god enjoys a good shell game just like everyone else. That's why of all the many thousands of cults which all have the same imaginary friend, only one of them is the one true faith and all the rest are doomed to be tortured for eternity.
No, He does not!
In the darkest, remote areas of our world there are people who have not heard of Jesus. No one could actually believe that these people will go to hell for not believing in something that they don't know of.
Do Christians , Muslims and Jews, the three great earthly monotheistic religions, all believe in the same God? Yes or no?
If they do, and in my opinion they must, how can Muslims and Jews be threatened with hell for not being born again in Christ? Can you explain that?
You hit on the head. Why even bother?
I asked a very simple question. If you can't answer it that reflects more on you than me.
Do Jews and Muslims go to heaven Magnolia?
They go the same place I go.
WalMart? It's the prices isn't it...
You answered your own topic. You didn't answer the topic of this seed.
I do not enter that store!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
According to the linked content, only 19% of evangelicals say people who don't follow Jesus can get to heaven.
They all believe in the same god that created the universe 13.8 billion years ago, explictly for a version of life that he created in his image but that didn’t show up until approximately 13.8 billion years later. That version of human had to endure thousands of years of evolutionary change before it even resembled his image. It all makes perfect sense.
What the hell do you know what went on in their minds billions of years ago?
You are just a bunch of talk.
What the hell do you know what went on in their minds billions of years ago?
Lol. In whose minds? Do you think there were any minds at all billions of years ago?
There had to have been minds.
You have no sense of scale. Religion loves you ... science, not so much.
For a fact.
Meet Cro-Magnon man. We know that he existed over 40,000 years before Jesus. He kinda looks like Jesus, but he had a ton of evolving to go through before he could ever think like Jesus and the contemporaries of Jesus. In fact, Nenderthals had about 100,000 years of evolution to go through before Cro-Magnon man hit the scene. Where are these guys talked about in scripture? Nowhere of course! The authors of scripture had no clue what came before them, so they made up ridiculous stories.
Hal, the article is about the similarity or not of the beliefs of the three monotheistic religions, not whether or not God exists.
Skirting the CoC [ph]
All religions are ignorant of the true natural history of humanity. That in itself makes your question moot.
Has it hit you yet that you are reasoning with someone who thinks sentient bipeds existed billions of years ago?
He looks like a Texas hillbilly!
My question is whatever I want it to be. The three monotheistic religions exist and the question is about the beliefs that allow one to go to heaven.
Good grief. Try to keep up - Skirting the CoC [ph] Apparently neither of you are aware of what conditions in the universe were like billions of years ago.
Prove He didn't do just that.
Was Adam made from dirt? Was Eve made from Adam’s rib? Where do the precursors of biblical humans come into play in the Holy Babble?
No.
The three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) draw from the same God - the God of Abraham; the God of the OT. Christians argue that the God of the OT is the God of the NT. Muslims argue that Allah is indeed the God of the OT.
However, all three of these religions (actually categories of religions) define God quite differently. So, by definition (literally), these cannot be the same God.
So these three Gods arguably are different interpretations of the same God (the God of Abraham) but are clearly defined by their respective religions in such a way that they are three very different Gods.
The moral of our story is that when it comes to religions, inconsistency is consistent.
You feel like you can manipulate the meaning of "God" so that three monotheistic religions worship different Gods. That is not even logically possible from the perspective of those who do believe in God. Obviously atheists can create any configuration and number of God(s) they like.
I didn't create this article in order to once again debate the existence of God. There are an endless train of other articles on NT that serve that purpose.
Why is faith in God so important? If you tell a Christian you are a murderer, a rapist, a bank robber, you name it, they will tell you that God forgives all, repent, have faith, and you are saved. But you can't possibly make it if you don't 'believe,' no matter how good a person you might be. "By faith we are saved." Why? Why is it so important to an all-powerful supernatural entity, that a mere human believes it exists? Why does God need us to constantly praise and honor it, does God have low self-esteem or something? Is God really so petty, that it would stamp its foot like an angry child and send someone to hell simply for honestly not thinking it exists?