Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries in Oval Office meeting
President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met Wednesday.
The comments left lawmakers taken aback, according to people familiar with their reactions. Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) proposed cutting the visa lottery program by 50 percent and prioritizing countries already in the system, a White House official said.
A White House spokesman defended Trump’s position on immigration without directly addressing Trump’s remarks.
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“Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people,” spokesman Raj Shah said in a statement issued after The Washington Post first reported Trump’s remarks. “. . .Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.”
Outlining a potential bipartisan deal, the lawmakers discussed restoring protections for countries that have been removed from the temporary protected status program while adding $1.5 billion for a border wall and making changes to the visa lottery system.
[Trump wants to remove these immigrants. An ugly bit of history tells us what it could do to the economy.]
The administration announced this week that it was removing the protection for citizens of El Salvador.
Trump had seemed amenable to a deal earlier in the day during phone calls, aides said, but shifted his position in the meeting and did not seem interested.
Graham and Durbin thought they would be meeting with Trump alone and were surprised to find immigration hard-liners such as Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) at the meeting. The meeting was impromptu and came after phone calls Thursday morning, Capitol Hill aides said.
After the meeting, Marc Short, Trump’s legislative aide, said the White House was nowhere near a bipartisan deal on immigration.
“We still think we can get there,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said at the daily White House news briefing.
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Gosh, I wonder why he only wants people from someplace like Norway? It couldn't be because they are white, blond haired and, blue eyed, could it?
It is an appeal to his racist base.
The ascension of Barack Obama caused many whites to realize that the demographics of the country were changing faster than they could tolerate. That is one of the reasons people were so racist toward Obama.
Trump thinks he can win with 35-40 percent support if the Democrats stay home.
I think he will cause massive turnout against him, particularly among minorities.
As long as he keeps running his mouth and, tweeting I think you are right.
Maybe Trump wants Norwegian immigrants because Jesus was from Norway?
That explains Aryan Jesus
and full circle back to the Vandals.
Good One !!
How ironic it must be to be Raj or his parents. His parents immigrated here from Mumbai, a capital city in India with 22 million inhabitants, 17 million of whom live in slums.
"Illegally" ?
Did they "WIN" a lottery ?
I hear his Dad was an engineer and his mother was a dentist. People that Trump says should be coming here.
And, when your ancestors came here which one of them was a dentist or, an engineer? Or, were they simply labor workers?
My Great, Great Grandfather was a Doctor, and my Great, Great Grandmother was a homemaker. She didn't have to work.
I was born here, so I'm NOT an immigrant.....in case you had this need to know that.
I know this is subtle for you.
But Mumbai, to most people is also what some people would call a shithole; one of the largest in Asia.
And no, as far as I know they did not win a lottery since no such program existed they came here ( the second and last time) in the late 1970's
The Visa Lottery Act wasn't enacted into law until 1990 by Congress and signed by George H W Bush.
The thing is, you are the descendant of immigrants and, yet you are willing to deny others of the same things your great, great grandparents received, how American of you.
So, they came here the "Right" way....no pun intended.
From what I understand, Mumbai is the "Wealthiest" city in India, and generates over 6% of the entire countries GDP.
The "Thing is".....nothing. I was born and raised here by my Born here parents. I'm still here too.
That should frighten the rest of the world.
Imagine what they could do if they could eliminate poverty there.
Makes all of Detroit look pretty damn good by comparison......
You are still and, always will be the child of immigrants in this country, no matter what you think.
Nope !
I am a child of parents that are U.S. Born Citizens. I am not the child of my Great, Great Grandparents.
Image what MORE could be done if we spent much needed time eliminating poverty here, instead of bringing in 100's of thousands more.
Have you been to an engineering campus in the last decade? It’s mostly foreigners, with a few of the white males you cater to, and a handful of white females. Graduate school is almost entirely composed of foreigners. America has dumbed itself down so badly that we can’t even produce students capable of passing an engineering curriculum. How do you think your plan would eventually play out?
America....or Liberalism/Progressivism.
American Teachers/Professors seem to spend way too much time on "Social Issues" in American schools, instead of teaching the actual subject.
It's like the maroons that think teaching kindergarteners "Sex Education" is IMPORTANT.
WTF ?
Again....whose fault is that again ?
Well take a look at which States have the highest rate of teen pregnancy. Interesting how it happens to be all the evangelical Republican States who push abstinence only and refuse to allow early sex education in their schools.
Interesting that Liberals push for abortions.....for ALL.
WTF is your point ?
Now back to foreigners, Americans and who has the higher education.
More complete horse shit. No liberals are pushing for anyone to get an abortion. I have never once heard from a "pro-abortion" American. We are pro-choice, but believe that is the last option anyone should have to make. That's why we push for sex education and contraceptive access. Only half wits would send their kids into their teens pumped full of hormones with almost no information about sex using the "You better not do it!" as their only message.
Please explain the difference.
"That's why we push for sex education and contraceptive access."
For five year olds. Good job.
Now how about pushing to teach kids an actual educating subject that will get them prospering in this country.
Haven't seen one government sex education course forced on kids that put them on the path to actually prospering on their own.
You know....Actually being able to make a "LIVING"......wage ?
Prochoice = for all choices be it birth and keep, birth and adopt out or abortion and letting the individual woman decide which choice is BEST for HER. Show me where in this statement it says abortion for all......
That's the parents job.
Not School....where their ONLY job is to get YOU SMARTER, in order to be productive in life. Not how to sponge off Actual productive WORKING tax payers.
Lol, you are full of non-answers.
None soooo blind as those that WILL NOT see.
The Liberal/Progressive way has done so well, as noted in your comment 1.4.1.2.
Do you comprehend what YOU write ?
You are the one that says America is dumber than foreigners.
Now who runs the schools that are dumbing down Americans again ?
I here that Liberal Teachings have grown by another 10% over the last few years.
Hal said engineering. I'll double down on that.
My kids went to Hopkins. While I would debate Hal's numbers to some extent, there was no "social issues" at those schools. Kids who study the science don't have time for those. They are beating their brains out on their outrageous workload. And when it comes to the sciences, the campus was 50/50 American to Foreign students. If our schools were only were liberal arts (that is what you were talking about), our schools would not be filled with foreign students.
I hold BOTH an Engineering and Architectural Lisc..
I've been in those classes. Social issues kept filtering in my classes, even back in my day.
These days....I have a friend whose child is going for her engineering lisc., saying the "Political Social" issues are getting worse in a class that doesn't require to learn social issues. It's like subliminal messaging !
I help her with her studies, so I know what she says is going on in her class.
Where in my statement did a mention schools vs. parents....I didn't.....Personally it should be the parents but if they can't handle the responsibility or are closed minded not to tell their children then yes, they should learn it in school.
Why would you want Government schooling to teach your kids, or any other kid, anything more than the subject they are there to learn ?
I hold BOTH an Engineering and Architectural Lisc..
That leads me to the resulting problem with undereducated students, one that I have brought up many times here - universities are losing their accreditations because the deans are pressuring professors to pass kids who have no business being in their classes, because they are unprepared and can’t understand the material.
I really think it's school dependent. My kids never took poli sci. I never took poli sci and I have a degree in accounting/ economics and Education. Poli Sci is an optional course.
That dependency is growing.
I never took Poli Sci, nor Liberal Arts classes. None of my children did either. Both are a waste of time and productivity.
They are filtering into other classes these days though.
It's like the meme that has been out there for years:
"I spent tons of money on a Liberal Arts Degree....and I can't find a job. Government should reimburse me" !
They are also allowing the "Kiddies" to run the asylum.
Ever seen the Safe Space take overs at "Universities". and I use "Universities"......very loosely now !
So....it gets right back to what I was saying. Those running the show...are fucking up everything !
Bring back Truant officers and paddles in ALL the classroom. These days....college classrooms too on the paddles. That should straighten things right back up on "education" problems.
Learning about your body and sexuality does make you smarter. It informs children even when their parents are too chicken shit to discuss nature with their children because they were so screwed up in the head by oppressive religions that make sex or even talking about it taboo. That's why Arkansas has nearly 40% of teens getting pregnant while New York, where all the evangelicals claim is more like Sodom and Gomorrah, is at 16%. Just like you can't expect an 8th grade drop out parent to be able to tutor their child in algebra let alone calculus or biology, you can't leave such an important subject up to those same poorly educated parents who only know how to push more religious ignorance on their children with the threat of hellfire as the only deterrent. If you want to lower abortion rates let schools educated your children with facts about sex instead of filling their heads with religious mumbo-jumbo.
Find an actual "living wage" paying job using that as a resume'.
Maybe...Just maybe....Liberal/Progressives should get back to making parents "Responsible" for their own children, instead of making excuses for parental failures.
I always love the one about "It's their environment that's at fault".
What fucking horseshit that is.
Bring back Truant officers and paddles in ALL the classroom. These days....college classrooms too on the paddles. That should straighten things right back up on "education" problems.
Let me guess - we should also legalized concealed carry on the same campuses.
Is that what they allowed in the days of old ?
Is that what you got from my comment ? Are you fucking kidding me Hal A. Lujah . Only Majored in the art of Liberal didya ?
Find an actual living wage paying job after getting pregnant at 15. Ignorance keeps people in poverty, and the beyond ignorant abstinence only education is creating millions more poorly educated evangelicals who have to fall back on their faith and federal entitlements to survive, which I guess is exactly what their religion wants.
education abstinence is what the GOP prefer,
so ignorance ruling becomes the acception to the ignorance ruling over the subjects
too
ignorant to be exceptions
At 15, the Parents are a 15 year olds "Living Wage".
I Didn't know 15 year olds were looking for fulltime jobs to support themselves in their parents house. At that ignorant age, they would be good at.....hmmmmmm......not sure if flipping burgers isn't to much for them.
Let me think about it some more. I'm sure I can find a fitting job for a 15 year old.
we know Trump sure could
You'll notice I said "after getting pregnant at 15". Having a child at that age throws the entire trajectory of their lives off course limiting their ability to apply themselves to higher education and skilled job fields which effects them for decades. But apparently the poorly educated can't think that far ahead.
Showing off the new facial expression after practicing Hal A. Lujah ?
I don't know any business's that will hire 15 year olds, even if they aren't pregnant.
Maybe it would be better if you "Specified" an age you say you are actually talking about ! Based on your comments, it's not "15" ?
Or are you just trying the liberal "Shock Effect" ...... for "Effect" ?
"Feelings.....Nothing more than Feelings.....Trying to forget your....Feelings of Love" ?
They came here for a better life, so that their great, great grandkids would have a better life than they had so, yes, you are their child whether you wish to acknowledge it or not.
I really wish you all would get back on topic here, which happens to be a president who uses racist language and, is a racist.
I understand that schools are bad here to some but, that is not the topic of this seed, if you all wish to discuss it then start your own seed. Please. If it is not turned back to the topic at hand I will close this to any further comments.
"THEY" came here for a better life for "Themselves"....not to make some future "Possible" grandchild to have a better life. That was and has always been up to the parents of the actual child that was and has been "Already born" in this country.
If your argument were true, than "No one" in this country should have a bad life.
There is nothing wrong with this statement and, yes, it is true that everyone should have a better life than the generation before them, I know I do, don't you know that your life is better than your parents or, for that matter than your grandparents or, great grandparents? I'm the second generation in my family to go to college, my father was the first generation, however, he had to fight in WWII before he had the money to do it, you know, the GI bill. Did your immigrant ancestors attend college? I bet you did, now, think for a minute, if they hadn't come here and, had stayed in their home country would you have had a chance to go to college there? Would you even exist? So, by coming here they not only made a better life for themselves they made a better life for you.
While I’m shocked to learn that the King of the Birthers is a racist moron, it is funny that he seems resentful of people who immigrate to make a better life for themselves.
Especially considering that his grandfather is one of those immigrants.
But...but...his grandfather and his mother come from the white countries
Yep and, they seem to forget that his grandfather marched in Washington at this rally,
Trump has said that he's got "great genes" because he has "German blood."
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Of course he forgets that his pimp granddaddy tried to hide his German ancestry.
He really does believe all that Nazi Aryan bullshit
It is his father, not grandfather that immigrated to US. And that was to avoid the German military draft. It is also his father that was arrested for violence during a 1927 Ku Kluxer rally in New York.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Draft dodging runs in that family.
I stand corrected. Well, I stand on two feet most days but,.........
Actually it was his grandfather who was the Bavarian immigrant who moved to the US in order to run a brothel during the gold rush. It's easy to confuse the two men since both were named Fred, but our Fuhrer's dad was born in NYC.
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All true. It's also racist daddy Trump for whom Donald was working when he actively refused to rent to blacks. Donald not only fought against the lawsuit but he refused to comply with the settlement agreement he signed.
those trump boys like their shady dealings, don't they?
Make up my mind already.
Just think how much better the US would be today if the US had banned immigrants from Bavaria in the 1880s.....we'd have avoided a pimp, a KKK member and The Apprentice.