Border Patrol council applauds plan to deploy National Guard to border
President Trump last week authorized the National Guard to be deployed to the Southern border to help assist border patrol agents with combatting illegal immigration, and the National Border Patrol Council is applauding his efforts.
- By Sherkiya Wedgeworth
- Apr 06, 2018
President Trump last week authorized the National Guard to be deployed to the Southern border to help assist border patrol agents with combatting illegal immigration, and the National Border Patrol Council is applauding his efforts.
“This action will increase the certainty of detection and apprehension,” the NBPC said in a statement, adding, “Many border patrol agents perform duties such as monitoring cameras, monitoring sensor activations, conducting surveillance on 'sky boxes' or other observation posts, operating scope vehicles, etc. These are surveillance activities and by deploying the National Guard to take over these and other activities, it will free up law enforcement resources to patrol the border and make arrests.”
Currently, the U.S. Border Patrol has approximately 19,302 agents, while Congress has set a mandatory floor of 21,370 agents.
The Obama and George W. Bush administrations both took similar actions of deploying guardsmen to the border.
The White House reports that more than one thousand people a day and more than 300,000 annually cross the U.S. border illegally.
“Given the importance of secure borders to our national security, the National Guard, in coordination with governors, will remain in a support role until Congress takes the action necessary to close the loopholes undermining our border security efforts, including ending the practice of Catch and Release,” according to a White House statement.
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Seems the Border Patrol is pretty happy with this, now that we've gotten past the silliness of the Posse Comitatus act and the president's ability to call up Guard Troops. Securing our borders isn't a bad thing. Surprising how many people have a problem with it.
If you think this will secure the border, you will have a long sad discovery coming your way.
yeah, why on earth would we consider the opinions of the very people we entrust to secure our borders instead of just listening to you, right?
Why? How about common sense?
How many troops do you think it will take to secure a 2000 mile border that includes mountains and rivers, 24 hours a day, 7 days a weeks, including holidays?
I await your answer with baited breath.
Seems logical that the more people we have patrolling the border, the better they will be at catching people entering illegally.
More people, more miles covered.
Wait a minute--do you think LESS people enforcing the border will result in MORE apprehensions?
Surely you aren't serious??
from what I have read , a good number of the people called up , are drone pilots . surveillance of the border does not conflict with Posse C.
2000 mile border , 1 drone per 100 miles = 20 drones and 20 operator, 8 hr shifts per shift = 60 operators with another 20 to cover days off if needed. and that can be increased as needed per area.
My thoughts too. Keyboard Warriors must be right because they say they are. How does having trained troops assissting Border Patrol along the border not help?
You're going to pass out doing that, Lee Harvey.
I asked a simple question and the best you can do is deflect. Answer the question or show your ignorance by trying to deflect again.
Drones are for observation only, cameras will not "secure the border", they will only give us better counts of how many are crossing it.
Wow, where did I say I was right? I asked him a very simple question that he CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER. If he cannot answer the question, then yes, that tends to lean the argument in my favor.
He claimed that troops would secure the border, I'm just asking him to support his claim.
You asked something and I answered. If you don't like my answer, don't ask me questions.
Problem solved.
But I wonder about the mental faculties of someone who thinks having less people is going to enhance border security. I also wonder why people aren't caring who enters the US and why.
your statement would be true except for one little thing, the observations can be used for dispatch, and those cameras have all kinds of nifty little abilities , such as night vision , infra red and heat seeking capabilities that are usable in all weather and at all times , this alone cuts response time , so instead of having to dispatch to a large area , the response is cut down to mere feet with todays technologies.
I remember as a kid , trying to build cars and motorcycles capable of out running the cops and it wasn't hard if one made the right combination of choices, but eventually I learned , I could do that , but I couldn't out run Motorola, it didn't matter how fast my vehicle was.
Are you pulling that again???
You never answered my question and you know it. Now you will quietly disappear since you know that people have looked and see that you are again lying about answering the question. Just like you've done at least 2 other times with me.
Perhaps because you asked a very, very silly question?
I personally DO NOT know how many people it will take to guard the border against illegal aliens.
But I DO KNOW that more is better when you are talking about a very, very long border, and that anyone who won't admit to that is deceiving themselves.
Does that satisfy you?
You are correct, the observation they provide MAY assist in capturing them, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT... Cameras don't secure the border, they just show how many people have crossed, thus showing how unsecured they are.
But yes, they will help apprehend some, but not all, and most likely not even a high percentage. Once they see the drone, or understand that they are just there, once crossing the illegals will just split up allowing apprehension of only 1 or 2 groups if the manpower is available.
We already have cameras in some areas along the border, they have not deterred crossing since they know there is a delay between when the illegals are seen and border patrol can make to the are that they were last scene at. It's not like they're going to keep standing in front of the cameras taking selfies waiting for border patrol to come by.
I will answer this the way the Spartans answered king phillip when he said if he had to bring his army , Sparta would be destroyed, to which the Spartans single word reply was , IF. Phillip never attacked or tried to subjugate Sparta.
a rather laconic response
your premise relies on they will actually see the drone or even know its anywhere near. ask some of the people drones have sucsessfully been used on if they saw them coming? they all knew we used them knew they were in the area, and it didn't stop their effectiveness.
At worst it will make those being surveilled change their habits, at best , it will deter them from an attempt, and either of those are still better than what we have now.
15,000 to guard 2,000 miles of border. Over mountains, across rivers, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, plus holidays? You really have no clue how the world works do you? If you want a secure border, you will have to at least triple that number, and it still won't be completely "secure".
No it doesn't it. YOU want a secure border. YOU want troops on the border. Yet YOU have absolutely no clue about the logistics of securing it.
This just tells me that YOU have no concept of reality.
Kind of like gun control laws. Drones may not stop them, but it may effect the frequency of the crime?
The only trouble is that this string is on securing the border, drones will not stop anyone determined to cross, at best it may notify authorities that someone crossed in a certain area at some time in the near past.
Me and several million other Americans who would like to see the end of illegal aliens entering or staying in our country.
While some people may not be concerned who comes here and stays here, not everyone feels like having open borders.
And as usual, you and several million other Americans have no clue on how to do that. You fail to understand that what you want is absolutely impossible. You need to educate yourself in those matters and come up with a different, viable solution
And you need to learn that border enforcement is necessary, that leaving our borders wide open is stupid and dangerous.
Just because we can't stop all of them doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop any of them.
Progressive lib Democrat politicians are throwing hissy fits over it because it may interfere with their potential voter base!
Presidents have always been able to deploy troops, but without congressional approval under the PCA, they can not act in a law enforcement capacity.
They are not-Border Patrol acts as Law Enforcement. The military is just there to help and defend the borders, though I'm sure the rules of the situation are very strict for the troops. But as Mark said, Drone operators? Won't even be there-they will be back onn their Remote Piloting Facility (RPF).
Remember this has been done before. The rules were simple, if you see an illegal crossing, notify the border patrol do not take any other action.
some things to think about , how much of that border land is owned by the federal government?
Does congress need to approve the establishment of a military camp on federal land?
can the DOD use federal land at the direction of the commander in chief?
The short answer is none of it.
There are at least two AI nations that the border runs through that would be difficult to fence - and th smugglers avoid these areas anyway -
and several National forests that could probably be utilized but not without a legal fight.
All of the land siezed by CBP or DHS to date is a slim ribbon of land that has soured all of the residents affected over the last 20 years.
Here;
Texas and Arizona are rife with horror stories about properties chopped up and divided by the thoughtless processes so far.
Also read;
The federal government is not above obtaining whatever land they think they need. There is such a thing where the federal government can and has claimed eminent domain over certain properties and appropriated them when they wanted. I have seen them use it here in Southern Arizona on more than one occasion
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