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Rosenstein tells Trump he is not a target of Michael Cohen investigation

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  7 years ago  •  58 comments

Rosenstein tells Trump he is not a target of Michael Cohen investigation

Rosenstein tells Trump he is not a target of Cohen investigation


Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told President Trump last week that the president is not a target in the Michael Cohen investigation, and that the investigation is focused solely on Cohen, the president's personal attorney, a source familiar with the probe told Fox News on Thursday.

Trump has been told previously that he is  not a target of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation .

The source also said the Cohen investigation, together with the abrupt departure of John Dowd from Trump's legal team, slowed, but did not halt talks about Trump sitting down for a potential interview with Mueller.

The  FBI last week raided  the office, home and hotel room of Cohen. Federal agents reportedly obtained documents related to several issues, including Cohen's payments to adult-film star Stormy Daniels in the weeks leading up to the 2016 presidential election.

Separately, President Trump’s in-house counsel Ty Cobb said no firings are currently under consideration, including those of Rosenstein or Mueller.

Earlier Thursday,  Bloomberg  reported that Rosenstein told Trump that he was not being targeted in the wider Mueller probe.

According to Bloomberg, Rosenstein told Trump that he wasn't being targeted during a Thursday meeting at the White House. The assurances reportedly led to waning interest on behalf of the president to fire Rosenstein and Mueller.

In an interview on Thursday with CNN, former FBI director James Comey addressed the reports about Rosenstein's reported conversation with Trump.

"I don’t know what it means," Comey said. "It’s a fairly standard part of any investigation, trying to decide whether a person you’re encountering is a witness, a subject or a target. A target is someone on whom the investigation, the grand jury has developed … evidence sufficient to charge. Witness is somebody who has nothing to do with any exposure and a subject is everybody in the middle. So, I don’t know the context in which the Deputy Attorney General did that, but that’s the general framework."

This is a developing story; check back for updates.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/19/rosenstein-tells-trump-is-not-target-cohen-investigation.html


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    7 years ago

Does this end the dems love affair with Rosenstein?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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1.1  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 years ago
Does this end the dems love affair with Rosenstein?

No, it's meant to try to make Dump think he's safe.  If you'd have paid any attention to what the categories of levels of interest investigators have in someone, you'd have learned that a "witness" can become "person-of-interest" can become a "target" in an eyeblink. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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1.1.1  Rmando  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @1.1    7 years ago

The ability for the left to spin anything into a positive despite all ration evidence never ceases to amaze me. I guess that's what makes liberals good at fiction. They should leave reality to the professionals.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @1.1    7 years ago
No, it's meant to try to make Dump think he's safe.

Oh really?  So you are saying that Rosenstein is trying to bait & trap the President?

 
 
 
DocPhil
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1.2  DocPhil  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 years ago

not a target......a subject.    If Trump thinks that clears him, he is the dumbest man ever to walk into the white house, including workers with mental challenges. Targets almost always start as subjects. As the evidence mounts their status changes. If Trump's hasn't changed to witness by now, he is up to his neck in crap.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  DocPhil @1.2    7 years ago
As the evidence mounts their status changes

Any time you want to wager that Trump gets indicted for collusion and or obstruction, I am ready to wager 3 months self imposed suspension. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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1.2.2  Raven Wing   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    7 years ago
I am ready to wager 3 months self imposed suspension.

laughing dude laughing dude

 
 
 
katrix
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1.2.4  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    7 years ago
Any time you want to wager that Trump gets indicted for collusion and or obstruction, I am ready to wager 3 months self imposed suspension.

There isn't any way I can think of he could get indicted for collusion, because collusion is only a Federal crime in the antitrust arena.  

If Trump had been dumb enough to meet with Mueller, I might have been willing to wager that he'd end up getting nailed for lying.  And I were into betting, I might be willing to wager that Cohen will end up with criminal charges, simply because there must have been some pretty strong evidence for those warrants to have been issued.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2.5  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @1.2.4    7 years ago
There isn't any way I can think of he could get indicted for collusion, because collusion is only a Federal crime in the antitrust arena.

Yup, please inform the media and the left

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    7 years ago
Does this end the dems love affair with Rosenstein?

Why, when he is just speaking the truth?  Trump is not the "target", never has been, never will be, BUT he is a subject of the investigation.  Mueller is investigating a crime, he may discover the criminals involved, and Trump may be one of them, but the "target" is the crime.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3    7 years ago
the "target" is the crime.

And the crime is?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.3.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    7 years ago
And the crime is?

How deep is your head buried in the sand?

The crime is Russian meddling in our election, and determining if the crime of Obstruction of Justice has occurred.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    7 years ago
And the crime is?

Depends.  Which way is the wind blowing?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.4  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ozzwald @1.3.2    7 years ago
The crime is Russian meddling in our election

Oh, we are back to the fallback position! But, But, But... It's not about Trump Collusion? That's right, there is no evidence of that!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2  Jeremy Retired in NC    7 years ago

If the President isn't the target then who is and why is a "special prosecutor" doing the investigation?  I really don't expect any kind of real answer from the left but Mueller is wasting taxpayer money chasing his tail.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    7 years ago
If the President isn't the target then who is and why is a "special prosecutor" doing the investigation?  I really don't expect any kind of real answer from the left but Mueller is wasting taxpayer money chasing his tail.

Cohen is a figure in the Russia probe, for one thing. You don't seem to have ever gotten up to speed. 

Trump is not a "target" in the Mueller probe either. 

If they examine Cohen's records and there is dirt in there on Trump, the prosecutors will then decide what is the worth of charging a sitting president. 

One can easily imagine that Rosenstein told Trump what he wanted to hear.  "The assurances reportedly led to waning interest on behalf of the president to fire Rosenstein and Mueller."

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    7 years ago

Remember where I said " I really don't expect any kind of real answer from the left"?  Yeah, you just provided exactly what I was referring to.  That's one of the most bullshit answers I've seen yet.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.1    7 years ago

lol. I honestly think that you don't know what is going on with these investigations. Take your nose out of Breitbart or Fox News for a change. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    7 years ago

I don't watch or read either.  I call this "investigation" what it is, a farce, a waste of money, a witch hunt....  

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.1.4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.2    7 years ago
I honestly think that you don't know what is going on with these investigations.

That ignorance is self-imposed and deliberate.  He says he doesn't watch or listen to any of the rightwing pukefunnel so apparently it's more like this:

not listening

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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2.1.6  Raven Wing   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.3    7 years ago
a waste of money, a witch hunt..

Funny how all the 'witches' this investigation has found thus far are Trumps buddies. However, I can see how it is easier for the right to ignore that and condemn the investigation as being worthless.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    7 years ago

Lol. I doubt Rosenstein put that out to save his job. Nobody is getting fired

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.8  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.6    7 years ago
However, I can see how it is easier for the right to ignore that and condemn the investigation as being worthless.

The word is destructive

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.6    7 years ago
I can see how it is easier for the right to ignore that and condemn the investigation as being worthless.

Hmmm.  Where have I seen the left doing that?  Oh that's right.  With the travesty of a candidate they nominated for the position.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.6    7 years ago

And why are they all part of the Trump team????  'Cause Hildabeast got slammed and lost and the DNC/Billary Money Foundation/Democrats are using the worst possible shotgun method trying to save face.

It ain't gonna work and the Dems are next on the chopping block. 

Really, really looking forward to it.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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2.1.11  Raven Wing   replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.10    7 years ago
And why are they all part of the Trump team????  'Cause Hildabeast got slammed and lost and the DNC/Billary Money Foundation/Democrats are using the worst possible shotgun method trying to save face.

Now that's funny. Not at all a valid excuse, but, funny.  laughing dude  laughing dude

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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2.1.12  Raven Wing   replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.9    7 years ago
Where have I seen the left doing that?  Oh that's right.  With the travesty of a candidate they nominated for the position.

Then why was it that the Republicans were all for Mueller's acceptance, and even Paul Ryan praised him;

"Despite previously withholding his support for a special counsel, House Speaker Paul   Ryan also came out praising Mueller .

"My priority has been to ensure thorough and independent investigations are allowed to follow the facts wherever they may lead," Ryan said in a statement. "That is what we’ve been doing here in the House. The addition of Robert Mueller as special counsel is consistent with this goal, and I welcome his role at the Department of Justice."

Source: 

Rosenstein was appointed by President Trump to the position he now holds. So......why are the Democrats now the ones to blame for both them? 

Hypocrisy much maybe?

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
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2.2  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    7 years ago
If the President isn't the target then who is and why is a "special prosecutor" doing the investigation?

Read what Mueller's purview entails.  I'm sure you remember how wide Ken Starr's net was cast when he started out with just a petty Arkansas land deal the Clintons were involved in (seems almost quaint compared to the cess pit Dump has presented to the country). By the way, it's "special counsel," not prosecutor.  If Mueller finds evidence of  criminal acts he will refer it to the DoJ with a recommendation for prosecution.  Oh, and BTW, not being a target now could change to being one in a second. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.2    7 years ago

And there is another one.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @2.2    7 years ago
I'm sure you remember how wide Ken Starr's net was cast when he started out with just a petty Arkansas land deal

At least it was based on something

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.2.2    7 years ago
At least it was based on something

And actually got results that go along with what he was investigating.  Unlike what we see now.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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2.3  Skrekk  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    7 years ago
If the President isn't the target then who is and why is a "special prosecutor" doing the investigation?

Perhaps you should read the DOJ's original letter which appointed the special prosecutor?   The scope of the investigation includes the Trump campaign, not Trump per se.    Of course that doesn't exclude Trump either.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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2.4  Old Hermit  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2    7 years ago

If the President isn't the target then who is and why is a "special prosecutor" doing the investigation?

Muller is following his mandate and investigating Russian interference with the 2016 Presidential Election and related matters. 

So, not targeting President Trump per se, but Trump could be caught up in the Russians successful theft of the Presidency from the American voters OR he might just end up being a another run of the mill Spiro Agnew type character, forced out of office because of his shady business dealings that get uncovered during Muller investigation, a situation also covered in Muller's original marching orders.

 

screenshotwww.justice.gov20180420011237.jpeg

 
 
 
Rmando
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4  Rmando    7 years ago

Another swing and a miss by the anti Trump cabal. How many strikes are these guys going to get anyway?

 
 
 
JBB
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5  JBB    7 years ago

Believe whatever helps you sleep at night. No matter Rosenstein's comforting words Trump's pendulous boobs are in the wringer...

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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5.1  1stwarrior  replied to  JBB @5    7 years ago

You truly think that posting shit like "Trump's pendulous boobs"  raises your level of maturity?????  Or gets you any more "fans"?????

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1    7 years ago
raises your level of maturity?????

Yea, the right would never use names like hLIARy, Hilda, Oblahblah, Ostupid, Oretard, Oblamo, Obammy, etc etc etc... 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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5.1.2  Raven Wing   replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    7 years ago

Don't you remember....they are the party of "Do what I say, Not as I do."

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.1    7 years ago

Obumfuk, Moooochelle. I have lots more but prefer to stay out of the gutter.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.3    7 years ago

Thanks for proving my point Greg. 😀

 
 
 
MrFrost
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6  MrFrost    7 years ago

My guess is that Rosenstien told trump that to get him to back off the firing of him and Mueller. That would be priceless... "Oh, trump? You're under arrest, sorry, but we lied to you, you WERE the target of the probe!".

 
 
 
MrFrost
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7  MrFrost    7 years ago

If Mueller hasn't found anything at all....nothing, (meaning all the indictments and guilty pleas are made up and don't actually exist), why would Mueller still be investigating if he has found nothing at all? Weird. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8  MrFrost    7 years ago

Cohen will roll over on trump to save his own skin.. That should be entertaining as hell. 

 
 
 
lennylynx
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9  lennylynx    7 years ago

If, when the whole investigation is over, Trump is deemed to have done nothing illegal, I will accept that.  How about you righties, will you accept it if Trump is charged and convicted?

 
 
 
Sunshine
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9.1  Sunshine  replied to  lennylynx @9    7 years ago
Trump is deemed to have done nothing illegal, I will accept that.

You might, but most will not like they did with his election.

 
 
 
Skrekk
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9.1.1  Skrekk  replied to  Sunshine @9.1    7 years ago

It's possible that Trump is just a useful idiot and wasn't aware of the conspiracy between his campaign operatives and Russian agents.    But I doubt it given Trump's ties to the Russian mob and his fealty to Putin.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Skrekk @9.1.1    7 years ago
wasn't aware of the conspiracy between his campaign operatives and Russian agents.    But I doubt it given Trump's ties to the Russian mob and his fealty to Putin

Neither of your statements is true or valid. I think the real conspiracy is a figment of your deluded imagination

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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9.2  Greg Jones  replied to  lennylynx @9    7 years ago

Of course I would accept it if thats where the real evidence leads. But there has been no real evidence submitted.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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9.2.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Greg Jones @9.2    7 years ago
Of course I would accept it if thats where the real evidence leads.

Who would be the decider of the evidence for you to call it "real evidence"? Would you accept the evidence from the FBI or, would it have to come from FOX News?

 
 
 
luther28
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10  luther28    7 years ago

Trump has been told previously that he is  not a target of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation .

They (whomever they may be) may be pulling a page from his playbook, they may be lying to him.

 
 
 
cjcold
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10.1  cjcold  replied to  luther28 @10    7 years ago

Poetic justice for the liar-in-chief.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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11  seeder  Vic Eldred    7 years ago

Thank you all

 
 

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