Where Are The Vetters? One Fool After Another Gets Nominated.
Has anyone in this white house ever heard of the word "vetting"? As we collect facts about the potential and proven scandals in the Trump White House, there are a couple of things that stand out to even the most casual observer. First, Donald Trump makes decisions on who is going to be nominated for certain offices based on some of the oddest criteria ever seen; the fact that the potential nominee is liked by Trump, the pre-endorsement of Fox News and their pundits, and whoever has Trump's ear last. Second, whoever does the vetting of the nominees for positions that are Trump's responsibility is grossly negligent.
The result of the combination of these two items has been the most incompetent cabinet and judicial nominees in history. We have seen a revolving door of white house staffers in critical positions. We have seen nominations being held up in congress, not because of party politics but because there have been substantiated questions over the candidates. We see white house staffers who are unable to get security clearances, yet are in daily close proximity to the president.
How does Mr. Trump or his Chief of Staff allow this lunacy to continue? President Trump has gotten into enough hot water with the American people without having to be surrounded with turkeys. There has to be a better way to vet those who are going to come to work for the government. Someone has to have the courage to tell the President that nominees must be competent in their field, have experience in management experience when necessary, and not have gigantic skeletons in their closets. Someone has to tell the President that he cannot nominate federal judges with "not qualified" ratings by their fellow lawyers. Someone has to let the President know that the people taking over a cabinet position must understand what that position really entails. Most of all, the President has to be told that this a nation and not a business. There are rules and regulations {even some he shouldn't cut} that the President should follow.
Right now the office in the White House that is the busiest and probably the most incompetent is the Office of Vetting. Maybe Trump should make a change and get people with competence in this office, or will he continue with the same group of political toadies who may have drained one swamp and replaced it with an even bigger one, Trumpeefenokee.
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"Where Are The Vetters? One Fool After Another Gets Nominated."
I totally agree. It seems that in Trumps effort to reward his Good 'ol Boys is resulting in total chaos in his administration and the WH. He has absolutely no clue whatsoever regarding what is required of his OWN position, much less that of any others, so he just shoots from the lip and then calls it good. Then when it proves to be a bad choice, he simply gets rid of them, very unceremoniously, and finds a new unqualified Good o'l Boy waiting in the wings for hopefully their turn and calls it good again.
That is certainly NOT the way to run a government such as the US. And the unending chaos and turnover makes America a laughing stock on the front page of the world.
Not only is Trump unfit for his position, but, most, of those he appoints are also unfit. And his love affair with Putin and Russia, one of America's arch enemies, makes it even more deplorable.
My own opinion.
His choice to head the VA is particularly odd considering the candidate has zero experience running any sort of organization similar to the size of the VA or with similar responsibilities.
The previous president got elected with absolutely no experience or skills. His training wheels never came off. We are still undoing all the damage he caused. If we Trump voters aren't upset, why should the left wingers be. What is "laughing stock"? Is it something like a bump stock?
So all you have is deflection? That's... boring.
Seven years in the Illinois State Senate, four years as a US Senator, 12 years as a professor teaching constitutional law, graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School and worked as an attorney for the law firm Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland for eleven years.
If that's "absolutely no experience or skills", what are you comparing it to?
Certainly not the serially and morally bankrupt Trump who had to lie to get on Forbes list who's major accomplishments include using 5 deferments to avoid military service and bankrupting more than five businesses in just 20 years, that's an average of one bankruptcy every four years.
Yet a panel of 176 respected historians rate him as the eighth best president in the history of this nation. It has only taken Trump one year to be rated 45th unanimously. Time to get over the right wing lunacy.
So all he had accomplished was being a lawyer and community agitator? What was his experience in foreign and domestics affairs? Even Sarah Palin had more executive experience than Odumfuk.
Your comments are demonstrating a willful ignorance and lack of respect. Please read the comment you are referring to and try to respond to it with a modicum of intelligence. Continued use of obscenities when referring to an ex-president will get you deleted.
You probably had no idea who Ronny Jackson was until he released Trump's medical report. Now you think you are the expert on his qualifications.
If you use your logic for "qualifications", Obama should have never have been President.
You sound alot like another poster...cough cough JR cough..who thinks Trump is not Qualified to be President even though the Constitution spells it out quite clearly.
Bugsy, if you are not embarrassed by some of the nonsense that comes out of your mouth the word has lost all meaning.
Nope, but I have learned a tad bit about him since.
And where in the fuck did I EVER say that? It is a verifiable fact that Jackson has never served in a capacity resembling that of the head of the VA, it doesn't take any expertise to look at person's resume'.
Why in the fuck are you bringing up Obama?
Don't know who JR is but okay. And I am well aware of the Constitutional requirements of the presidency, but just because someone happens to meet those standards does not mean they meet my personal standards.
Congress delayed his hearing. Both parties want more information on allegations about his management credentials.
No....the Constitution only lays out who can run for the Presidency. It says nothing about competency. Trump has proven that the founding fathers made a mistake not placing some type of political knowledge test as a minimum political competence measure for running for office.
John, I really believe you are projecting. Have you seen the ridicule you receive from pretty much every one of your seeds/posts. No other member here receives anywhere as much. You, my boy, should be the one embarrassed.
I can assure you that you looked up Jackson only AFTER these accusations came out, and now you say he is not qualified. You had no idea before. Half of America did not think Hillary was not qualified, even though the liberal talking point was that she is the most qualified person EVER to run for president.
If you don't like what the Constitution spells out for qualifications, you don't have to vote for that person. Much like why Hillary is not president.
Thank God!!!
Wrong...again. The Constitution lays out the QUALIFICATIONS of those seeking the presidency. Those qualifications are 35 years old and a natural born citizen.
That's it.
And wtf does that have to do with the fact Trump's nominees are the worst I've ever seen in my life, and the only vetting appears to be.....none. Trump picks and everybody reacts, the vetting is done in front of our eyes by reporters and people who speak out.
that's right..... it doesn't say a single word about competency..... that was an epic fail on the part of our founding fathers and we are paying the price for it now.
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What a silly thing to believe.
That way of thinking would make nearly everyone on this forum QUALIFIED to be President, which is ridiculous.
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Trump may have been eligible to run for the job but the proof is overwhelming that he is NOT qualified to hold the job.
Most American voters knew Trump wasn't qualified for the job, which is why he lost the vote count so badly to the more qualified person in the race.
The lastest fiasco looks like it's going to be the VA nominee.
Of course will still have good old Tom Price, not sure how long he's going to last.
No, He resigned last September. Maybe you mean EPA Pruitt. I don't think he's long for the trump cabinet.
And Pruitt's stupidity just let him step into another pile of dung with his latest move:
"Pruitt unveils controversial ‘transparency’ rule Tuesday limiting what research EPA can use"
" Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt proposed a rule Tuesday that would establish new standards for what science could be used in writing agency regulations, according to individuals briefed on the plan. The sweeping change, long sought by conservatives, could have significant implications for decisions on everything from the toxicity of household products to the level of soot that power plants can emit."
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And I will be really glad when he is finally out of the picture and made to stop bleeding the taxpayers for his desired luxury life-style. But, I don't hold out any hope that the one taking his place will be any better, and will likely be even worse, if the pattern of Trump appointees follows course.
You are correct pat...It should be Pruitt...LOL, the revolving door is difficult to keep up with.
Indeed!!
He's Trump's doctor. He kinda sorta... twisted... the truth about Trump's medical status, to make the President look healthier than he actually is. In other words, Ronny Jackson showed that he put loyalty to Trump above... well... the rules.
Trumps considers loyalty to his person to be the greatest quality a collaborator can have.
So what if Jackson is an incompetent dick?
You mean Admiral Jackson? Who says he is unqualified and for what reasons?
On April 23, 2018, the US Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs postponed his nomination after current and former employees on the White House medical staff accused Jackson of creating a hostile work environment, excessively drinking on the job, and improperly dispensing medication. [12] [13]
Does that work for ya ?
Nope...accusations are not proof of wrong doing.
Hmmm...Ronny Jackson was appointed in 2013 by Obama.If there were concerns about him, why were they not brought up until now? Oh, wait...because Trump is now President and apparently it is his fault.
Number 1 liberal rule...blame everyone else.
exactly.
and again you nailed it
Cheers
If Trump had let him stay on as White House physician, none of this would have come to light. The President had to do what he always does and allow his nominees to rise to their level of incompetence. Now that he has to go through a new senate confirmation, the skeletons are coming out of the woodwork. They aren't democratic or republican wolves, but the wolves are coming from the military itself. It's just another case of Trump and his team failing to vet the nominee correctly.
I admit I have not been keeping up with all the palace intrigue...
trump fired him?
Um no. He was made the White House physician by Obama, a significantly different post from the one which he has been nominated for. Jackson has no experience whatsoever doing what the job for which he has been nominated would require, that should give EVERYONE pause.
I would venture to say you have no idea whether he has the qualifications, or not. This all amounts to Democrat obstructionism and a political lynch job.
He proves he doesn't have the qualifications to be President of this country most every day of the week. Seems to me that is more ignorance on the part of the Republicans, or at best, their unwillingness to admit the truth,than it is the Democrats. Even many Republicans tried to tell their party that Trump was a bad choice, but, they were so greedy and desperate to win the WH that they were willing to go with anything that they thought might win and the country be damned. So Trump is the is the fault of the Republicans, who had far better candidates to choose from, and who many Republicans better supported. And there are still many Republicans who don't support him, and who jumping the sinking ship in record numbers before it is too late to save their integrity.
So don't put it off on the Democrats. The idiot in the WH is the work of the Republicans greed and desperation, not good sense.
His record is pretty easy to look up, you can Google it in .2 seconds. After having done so I do not think he has the experience to run an organization with the size and scope of the VA.
Yawn, stop being such a pussy, obstruction has been the name of the game for years now. Get the fuck used to it.
While Dr. Jackson has an impressive medical career and is well qualified as a physician, his background shows no command positions. He has been a specialist who has moved up the medical ranks of the navy to his current position. None of his jobs placed him in administrative charge of any significant department.
From the white house release:
Jackson was born in Levelland, Texas in 1967. He studied Marine Biology at Texas A&M University at Galveston before graduating from medical school at University of Texas Medical Branch in 1995.
Jackson led an impressive career in the US Navy, gaining highly specialized skills in submarine medicine. He served for years in states from Florida to Hawaii, and trained to defuse bombs as part of an Explosive Ordinance Disposal unit in Sicily, Italy.
A few years after finishing his medical studies in 2001, Jackson was deployed to Iraq to serve as an Emergency Medicine Physician in the US Marine Corps. In 2006, he was chosen to be one of the White House physicians for former President George W. Bush.
Jackson is a competent doctor. He has no management experience. The job is a management job. You would think that is a minimum requirement for the job.
I heard on tv this afternoon that he is being accused of being drunk while he doctored U.S. presidents.
Trump is a teetotaler so Jackson is up shits creek now that this news has come out.
Nah.....Jackson agreed to lie for Trump about his health, as is more than obvious by merely looking at Trump, so Trump will likely continue to back him all the way for the position, whether or not he is fit. Being fit for the position has not been an important criteria for the majority of Trump's other appointees.
Um, maybe you don't know what an Admiral in the United States Navy is and how they got to where they are today. Google United States Commanding Officers, look at the definition, and get back with us and tell us again he has no qualifications.
Looks like once again trump picks loyalty to him and his agenda over substance for the American citizens.
I don’t expect this practice to stop. It is too much of a gain for trump.
What scares me is the more power he aligns the less power “We the People” retain.
Trump has always been “The Boss.” BUT, We elected a president not a Boss.
I liked having 537 people as “Our Boss”, having “One Boss” scares the crap out of me.
A one man government with lots of robotic figureheads is not my idea of America.
Yet each day I feel it’s closer and closer to being a reality. Stuff like this proves it.
A president should appoint the Best people for the job, not the presidents best friends.
How extreme should vetting be? Should it include a body cavity search in front of their children? /s
Vetting should be at least as invasive as it was in prior administrations for members of committees to which presidential appointees are nominated. I served on committees under Carter, Reagan, and Clinton and went through vetting that was obviously more comprehensive than that which Trump cabinet secretaries had to undergo.
The fact that they still picked you after the vetting tells me it was a waste of their time.
How do I flag this for review?
I reversed this ruling. In my estimation, DocPhil opened the door for a personal observation about himself when he used a personal experience as part of the conversation. PRF
What's the point...I think he's just making stuff up trying to impress the impressionable nabobs on this forum.
Eight of my years were with the Reagan administration..... They actually treated me well and with respect. We may have argued over policy, but it was always respectfully. They seemed to be quite satisfied with the FBI vetting that was done during the Carter presidency.
If you have been involved in the government vetting practices that long this shit has to be driving you nuts... lol
for me, what is going on in this administration is almost impossible to believe..... having served both democratic and republican presidents, there was always a level of absolute competence in the white house staff......whether it was an initial vetting or the getting of a security clearance, the white house was always all over it......what is happening here is an affront to every presidency that has preceded it.
I think the community would be served by an explanation about this.
This is a rare case. Both mods are correct. SP saw the comment as a personal insult to Doc, since Dean, you do not know Doc, nor do you know the work he did for those administrations to make that evaluation.
Peter is right, since Doc did open the door when he made himself the example.
The fact that the mods are open to review and discussion, is a tribute to the transparency of the process.
I know him from NV long before I came here. He has committed on his work on many occasions prior to this article.
I don't have a problem with members trying to attack my credibility. I believe that my credentials speak for themselves. I'm a big boy who has a thick skin. I have a much bigger problem with the use of vulgarity in naming former or current presidents. IMHO, we can call their policies stupid or the logic behind those policies dumb. We can even make fun of these people, but it should be done with respect. On articles that I write, readers can get into the gutter with me. I can choose to respond to them or not. Just advise them not to use vulgarity when addressing those who can't respond.
you may need to upgrade your credentials. maybe catch a seminar or two.
in every debate we have had over about 8yrs... not one thing you said would happen actually did happen.
everything you say, I go with the opposite and have been right every single time.
your one of the best contrarian indicators I have found
Yes, I don’t believe anyone needs to attack his credibility his disastrous track record of making false predictions speaks for itself.
One Fool After Another Gets Nominated
Folks of like ilk, seem to attract one another these days.
Just breaking :
I'll wait for verification from trusted sources instead of paying any attention to malicious rumors. If all this was true I am sure it would have surfaced a long time ago. But no, it just comes up now. The man has been too much in public eye for years, for this not to have been brought up before.
It's become pretty obvious why Trump went bankrupt so many times and divorced so many times. The man cannot even stay faithful in multiple marriages and has to cheat on all previous wives and on several other mistresses.
Allowing an unqualified person in the highest office in America by ignoring his incompetence, based on the "supposed" size of his bank account, is the worst decision voters have ever made. That is saying a lot, since voters put Bush in office who was a contender for the worst President but no question this circus has the Bush disaster looking better and better.
I wholeheartedly reject that the total circus we see full of lies each day is what the majority of America ever wanted.
Out of over 300 million, far less than 50% percent bothered to vote and out of less than 50% the popular vote went to another candidate.
There is no way to determine what the American people want unless we scrap the electoral college, do better at counting votes with a paper trail backup and ensuring that all votes are counted. Trump and this total chaos, corruption, lies and daily betrayal of our laws in order to further one man's personal agenda is not American and I do not believe this is what Americans wanted.
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