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The Leftist Duumvirate is Subverting, Not Protecting, ‘Our Democracy’

  

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Via:  heartland-american  •  6 years ago  •  57 comments

The Leftist Duumvirate is Subverting, Not Protecting, ‘Our Democracy’

It is increasingly clear that the Trump-hating holdovers from the Obama administration and their media enablers — together, the duumvirate — are not protecting “our democracy” but subverting it by fraudulently scandalizing and delegitimizing President Trump.

To avoid an email avalanche, let me emphasize that I know the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic, but I am using the terminology of the Trump-hating left, which, by the way, prefers a democracy to a constitutional republic. But I digress.

The Duumvirate

As often happens, the truly bad actors (the duumvirate, in this case) are benefiting from the factual complexity involved, which they have exacerbated through disinformation, slanted reporting and outright lies.

They went ballistic when candidate Donald Trump wouldn’t definitively answer in advance whether he would accept the presidential election results. Their fake outrage was purportedly over Trump’s ostensible willingness to allow a cloud to hang over the Clinton presidency in the event she won. But Trump was just saying that he wasn’t going to prematurely concede that no chicanery would occur that could result in his defeat.

I only bring this up to highlight the phoniness of liberals’ outrage, as shown by their engaging in exactly the same behavior for which they savaged Trump for merely considering. Ever since Trump was elected, they’ve tried to destroy and remove him and obstruct his agenda based on a mythical storyline and phantom “facts” concerning his supposed collusion with Russia to steal the election. (Actually, we now know their nefarious behavior preceded the election because they needed “insurance” in case he won.) As former U.S. Attorney Andrew McCarthy says, the government used its covert powers to investigate Trump despite having no evidence of a crime. There still is zero evidence.

The Dossier

Notwithstanding their misdirection to lead us off the scent, it’s becoming clear that they bootstrapped the case against Trump based on thirdhand rumors elicited from a government-placed spy in the Trump campaign and on a dossier full of innuendo and lies that was procured and purchased by the Clinton campaign under cover of a law firm and shadow corporation. What utter sleaze! Though fully aware Trump’s opponents bought the dossier and that its contents were salacious and unsubstantiated, they brazenly presented it to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to get a warrant, without disclosing any of these damning details. This duplicitous dossier was an indispensable component of the government’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant application.

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James Comey, former FBI director and current self-promoter, denies that the dossier was crucial to the warrant application and pretends it was funded by Republicans. If he really believes that (and reasonable people really don’t believe he really believes that), then he is betraying a disqualifying ignorance, showing he had no business heading up this investigation — or the FBI, for that matter. This same James Comey, who is so zealous to ensnare Trump for Russian collusion that exists only in fevered leftist minds, bent over backward to exonerate Clinton for real crimes concerning the willful destruction of her emails. This same sanctimonious James Comey perniciously gamed the system by leaking memos he prepared while in the FBI to a law professor friend for the admitted purpose of triggering a special counsel investigation. Is this behavior we should expect from the nation’s top law enforcement officer, or are these the actions of some disgruntled two-bit Deep Throat wannabe trying to even the score against President Trump for firing him?

Gross Conflicts of Interest

Though we know that the duumvirate will support darn near anything to advance its beloved leftist agenda, can we even fathom the magnitude of its hypocrisy in looking the other way at the gross conflicts of interest of the deep-state Trump investigators? How can anyone with a scintilla of decency not read with abject horror the email exchanges between the adulterously love-struck FBI agent Peter Strzok and top FBI aide Lisa Page? It’s undeniable that they were hellbent on shielding Clinton from justice and inflicting injustices upon Trump.

Throughout this ordeal, the government has thwarted legitimate congressional information requests by speciously invoking national security concerns and then deceitfully redacting documents it was ultimately forced to turn over — not to protect national security but to cover its own rear end. With one hand, the government claims it can’t release information concerning its spying on the Trump campaign (even claiming that congressional investigators are extorting it for the information), and with the other, it leaks this same information to friendly news outlets to mitigate the outrage coming its way when the unredacted documents are released and their duplicity is revealed.

If even a fraction of our disturbing suspicions concerning the government’s actions in this Trump investigation and pretend Clinton investigation are true, the Obama administration not only conspired to surveil, undermine and criminalize the opposition party’s presidential candidate but also has holdovers in government who are still engaged in a massive cover-up that in purpose, scope and the sheer number of important officials participating makes Watergate look like child’s play.

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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    6 years ago

https://www.creators.com/read/david-limbaugh/05/18/the-leftist-duumvirate-is-subverting-not-protecting-our-democracy   Notwithstanding their misdirection to lead us off the scent, it's becoming clear that they bootstrapped the case against Trump based on thirdhand rumors elicited from a government-placed spy in the Trump campaign and on a dossier full of innuendo and lies that was procured and purchased by the Clinton campaign under cover of a law firm and shadow corporation. What utter sleaze! Though fully aware Trump's opponents bought the dossier and that its contents were salacious and unsubstantiated, they brazenly presented it to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to get a warrant, without disclosing any of these damning details. This duplicitous dossier was an indispensable component of the government's Foreign Intelligence Surveillance  Act warrant application.   https://townhall.com/columnists/davidlimbaugh/2018/05/18/the-leftist-duumvirate-is-subverting-not-protecting-our-democracy-n2481896                                     https://www.federalistjournal.com     http://www.jewishworldreview.com/david/limbaugh051818.php3       https://mobile.twitter.com/cnsnews/status/997468428448534528

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2  MrFrost    6 years ago

The title is a sweeping generalization. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @2    6 years ago

No it’s not.  It’s a mainstream creators syndicate article in newspapers all across the country and is directed at specific officials and media.  

 
 
 
epistte
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2.1.1  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago
It’s a mainstream creators syndicate article in newspapers all across the country and is directed at specific officials and media.

The fact that this may be a syndicated column doesn't mean that it is not a sweeping generalization.

The author is the younger brother of shock jock, Rush Limbaugh. I suggest that in the future he focus on writing fiction because this nonsense is beneath what the National Enquirer usually prints.  I didn't see any mention of the usual triumvirate of conservative boogeymen, Hillary Clinton, Benghazi or the deep state.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.2  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    6 years ago

The alt-right media isn't mainstream.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @2.1.1    6 years ago

When an article limits itself to being about a duumvirate or two people or two groups of select people, how can it by definition be sweeping?  And yes, creators syndicate is a group of conservative writers that are carried in mainstream newspapers all over the country.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @2    6 years ago

du·um·vi·rate
ˌd(y)o͞oˈəmvərət/Submit
noun
a coalition of two people having joint authority or influence.      duumvirate

 
 
 
epistte
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3  epistte    6 years ago
It is increasingly clear that the Trump-hating holdovers from the Obama administration and their media enablers — together, the duumvirate — are not protecting “our democracy” but subverting it by fraudulently scandalizing and delegitimizing President Trump.

This level of paranoia and delusion can be effectively treated with either thioridazine or haloperidol.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @3    6 years ago

The author of the seeded article is 100% correct.  

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.1  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    6 years ago
The author of the seeded article is 100% correct.

Do I need to explain why your agreement with what you posted is a confirmation bias fallacy? 

Though not a formal logical fallacy,  confirmation bias  is simply the tendency for individuals to favor information or data that support their beliefs.It is also the tendency for people to only seek out information that supports their a priori , or pre-existing, conclusions, and subsequently ignores evidence that might refute that pre-existing conclusion.

Technically, confirmation bias is a type of  cognitive bias  and a form of  selection bias , which seeks data that confirm the hypothesis under study.

Avoiding confirmation bias is an important part of rationalism. The scientific method, itself, was developed to remove biases. In science, it is achieved by setting up problems so that you must find ways of disproving your hypothesis (see falsifiability).

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    6 years ago
The author of the seeded article is 100% correct.

townhall is a known fascist right wing fake news site. As is the federalist. 

 
 
 
epistte
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3.1.3  epistte  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.2    6 years ago

I always liked the Free Republic for its version of racism and TEAparty neo-fascism.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4  MrFrost    6 years ago

Another article by an anti-American fascist. No surprise here. 

 
 
 
luther28
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5  luther28    6 years ago

America has many democratic traditions, but the basic agreed on government style is a Constitutional Federal Republic

What Democracy would it be that is being subverted?

 
 
 
devangelical
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6  devangelical    6 years ago

More teavangelical twisting of logic to justify their future unconstitutional activities.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @6    6 years ago

We are the defenders of the constitution as written and it’s original intent as modified by the amendment process.  

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.1  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1    6 years ago
We are the defenders of the constitution as written and it’s original intent as modified by the amendment process.

You do not support the strict separation of church and state, among many other concepts.

What about the 16th and the 17th amendment?

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.2  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1    6 years ago

Cool. We could use every gun when it comes time to give the unconstitutional anti-choice and anti-equality fascists their final choice.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @6.1.1    6 years ago

The 16th and 17th are my least favorite amendments and I do support their repeal.  Please show me where in the constitution it says that there is to be strict separation of church and state? There are limits as to what each can do in the realm of the other as there should be but no total separation on all things.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @6.1.2    6 years ago

We would happily die rather than give up our right to be pro life and to support one man/one woman as the only legitimate form of marriage.  Nor will we give up our religious liberty 🗽.  

 
 
 
lennylynx
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6.1.5  lennylynx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.4    6 years ago

You would rather die than support civil rights for gays??  Your bigotry is making you insane.

 
 
 
devangelical
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6.1.6  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.4    6 years ago
happily die

.

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.7  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.4    6 years ago
We would happily die rather than give up our right to be pro life

How many abortions have you been forced to undergo?

Do you support euthanasia?

and to support one man/one woman as the only legitimate form of marriage.

You have the right to turn down any proposal by a man, just like anyone else. You do not, however have the right to dictate  your religious beliefs to others. How many LGBT marriages has your church been forced to celebrate since June of 2015?

You have the very same religious liberty that everyone else enjoys. The Constitution's 1st Amendment guarantees this. What you don't have is the right to force others to obey your religious belifs or to limit their constitutional rights according to your interpretation of the Bible or any other religious tome. You oppose Shariah law and we oppose your right to enforce your conservative Christian beliefs by the power of the state. 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.8  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.3    6 years ago
Please show me where in the constitution it says that there is to be strict separation of church and state?

You previously stated that you support thConstitutionon and the Bill of Rights but now you admit that you want to pick and choose which ones that you will obey and keep. You are intellectually dishonest.

Jefferson, who was instrumental in the creation of the Bill of Rights, explained what the Establishment Clause meant in his letter to the Danbury Baptists. Do you know more about the 1st Amendment than Thomas Jefferson did? This letter has been used by the Supreme Court in its interpretation of the 1st Amendment in many cases.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.

How is your life damaged by the strict separation of church and state? How can we possibly have religious freedom for all people equally if the state is permitted to support and enforce the religious beliefs of the majority? The strict sepertion of chiuch and state is what prevents Sharia law in the USA, so why do you want to weaken it?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lennylynx @6.1.5    6 years ago

They can live however they want.  I really don’t care. Live and let live.  They can have whatever civil union they want.  I will never call what they do marriage nor will I ever participate in any ceremony they call “marriage”.  No flowers, photography, cake, or catering from those who believe it to be sin.  I don’t object to fair insurance and hospital visits for them or even if they adopt kids as long as they don’t coerce any faith based adoption agency to participate in it.  So, yes, it is better to die that to knowingly commit any sin if given solely a choice between the two.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @6.1.8    6 years ago

I support a degree of separation of church and state.  I just don’t support a wall as tall as you do.  

 
 
 
lennylynx
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6.1.11  lennylynx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.10    6 years ago

Your superstitious nonsense has no business having anything whatsoever to do with any decisions that affect human life.  Full stop.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lennylynx @6.1.11    6 years ago

Human life begins at conception and there is almost no justification for murdering human life.  

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.13  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.10    6 years ago
I support a degree of separation of church and state.

What idea what my strict separation of church and state prohibit, that you support? How do you balance your permissible church and state interaction with the constitutional protection of equal religious rights of all people and all religious groups? 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.14  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.12    6 years ago
Human life begins at conception and there is almost no justification for murdering human life.

1.) You cannot murder what isn't yet alive. 

2.) The Bible disagrees with your claim that life begins at conception. According to your faith, life begins when you take a breath of oxygen, which doesn't happen until you are born. 

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Gen 2:7

 
 
 
charger 383
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6.1.15  charger 383  replied to  epistte @6.1.14    6 years ago

They try and overlook that passage

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.16  epistte  replied to  charger 383 @6.1.15    6 years ago

(Skirting the CoC) Telo

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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6.1.17  Cerenkov  replied to  epistte @6.1.16    6 years ago

Deleted skirting  {SP}

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.18  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.9    6 years ago
I don’t object to fair insurance and hospital visits for them or even if they adopt kids as long as they don’t coerce any faith based adoption agency to participate in it.

Either LGBT have absolutely equal rights in marriage and business to white heterosexual Christians or they are not equal.  Your arguments are eerily reminiscent to the arguments made by conservative Christians to oppose equal rights for African-Americans and interracial couples in the 1950-60s. Do you want to repeal those civil rights protections for people whose conservative opinions are still stuck in the 1950s?  

There are not different levels of constitutional rights for people in the US according to your religious beliefs.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.19  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @6.1.16    6 years ago

(Skirting the CoC) Telo

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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6.1.20  Cerenkov  replied to  Raven Wing @6.1.19    6 years ago

Can you point out where he advocates stoning women, throwing gays off roofs, blowing people up, etc.? Deleted, Skirting {SP}

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.21  epistte  replied to  Cerenkov @6.1.20    6 years ago
Can you point out where he advocates stoning women, throwing gays off roofs, blowing people up, etc.? Removed for context

Are you defending Heartlands denial of equal rights to LGBT people?  What level of discrimination against non-Christians and LGBT people is permissible to you? 

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.22  epistte  replied to  Cerenkov @6.1.17    6 years ago
Removed for context

Are you referring to me or Heartland?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  charger 383 @6.1.15    6 years ago

That applies only to the two original adults as they were created.  The creation account has nothing to do with going forth and multiplying via reproduction.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.24  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Cerenkov @6.1.17    6 years ago

It’s only the latter here.  

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.25  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.23    6 years ago
The creation account has nothing to do with going forth and multiplying via reproduction.

Where is the Bible does it say that?

 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.26  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Cerenkov @6.1.20    6 years ago

Deleted Skirting  {SP}

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @6.1.22    6 years ago

Deleted, CoC, taunting  {SP}

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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6.1.28  Raven Wing  replied to  Cerenkov @6.1.20    6 years ago
Removed for context

It takes one to know one. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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6.1.29  Skrekk  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.27    6 years ago
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An interesting claim given that you think certain classes of Americans should be denied some of the civil rights you enjoy.

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.30  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.26    6 years ago

Do you remember Matthew 25:40, when you support discriminating against LGBT people and the denial of equal rights for other religions?

Gay people were common in the Bible era but Jesus never mentioned them. He did mention adultery multiple times. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.31  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @6.1.30    6 years ago

All sex out side of marriage between one man and one woman would be considered adultery.  Even lingering feelings of lust toward one who is not your opposite gender marriage partner was considered committing adultery one ones heart ❤️ and mind.  

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.32  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.31    6 years ago
All sex out side of marriage between one man and one woman would be considered adultery.  Even lingering feelings of lust toward one who is not your opposite gender marriage partner was considered committing adultery one ones heart ❤️ and mind.  

That is blatantly unenforceable.  You cannot stop single people from having sex with other consenting adults. You could not do so now without trampling the inherent right to privacy from government interference. Adultery is a religious idea that cannot be enforced by the state. 

Keep your fundamentalist nose out of other people's bedrooms and just focus on your own.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.33  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  epistte @6.1.32    6 years ago

You are the one who brought it up.  All I said was that every single homosexual and lesbian sex act IS committing adultery.  

 
 
 
epistte
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6.1.34  epistte  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.33    6 years ago

Lawerence v. Texas.  LGBT people aren't going back in the closet and your cannot enforce your religious beliefs on others by the power of the state.

This is why we have a strict separation of church and state.

 
 
 
Dig
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7  Dig    6 years ago
To avoid an email avalanche, let me emphasize that I know the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic, but I am using the terminology of the Trump-hating left, which, by the way, prefers a democracy to a constitutional republic.

Lordy. What is it with some people and this ridiculous trope? A republic is absolutely a form of democracy. You can't have a republic without democracy. Take the democratic elements out of the equation (the processes by which the public authorizes, installs and maintains its own government) and you no longer have a republic. That's what people are talking about when they refer to "our democracy"... that whole of/by/for the people thing.

A constitutional republic is an indirect democracy (as opposed to a direct democracy, in which every last Tom, Dick, and Sally would be an active and equal co-ruler).

Why is this so hard for some to fathom?

Try saying it over and over, several times a day: A republic is an indirect democracy, a republic is an indirect democracy, a republic is an indirect democracy... Eventually it's bound to sink in, right?

As often happens, the truly bad actors (the duumvirate, in this case) are benefiting from the factual complexity involved, which they have exacerbated through disinformation, slanted reporting and outright lies.

Pray tell, who are these two individuals, exactly? Or does Rush the Second not understand what a duumvirate is?

And by the way, if a person wants to talk about disinformation, slanted reporting, and outright lies, the current administration and its defenders in the media have taken those things to a level never quite seen before in American history. The "president" himself is a pathological liar for crying out loud. He can't help but lie. It very much seems to be an actual psychological disorder.

If even a fraction of our disturbing suspicions concerning the government’s actions in this Trump investigation and pretend Clinton investigation are true, the Obama administration not only conspired to surveil, undermine and criminalize the opposition party’s presidential candidate but also has holdovers in government who are still engaged in a massive cover-up that in purpose, scope and the sheer number of important officials participating makes Watergate look like child’s play.

Fucking insanity.

If anyone who buys into this crap really wants to know what's wrong with this country, all they need to do is look into a mirror.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dig @7    6 years ago

David Limbaugh is right.  

 
 
 
Dig
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7.1.1  Dig  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1    6 years ago

David Limbaugh is a moron, and so is anyone else who believes this garbage.

This is precisely the kind of conspiratorial bullshit one would expect to see coming out of a Russian troll farm or state-sponsored disinformation program so as to pollute the public discourse with lies and propaganda and sow doubt, mistrust and division throughout a target population. 

How does it feel to be doing the exact same thing?

Skirting the CoC "BF"

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dig @7.1.1    6 years ago

Actually I’ve been posting on news and political talk message boards from AOL to MSN to Newsvine to AOL CFB refugees to political forum.com to here nonstop since late 1997.  I adopted the Cornhusker4Palin id as one of my allowed sn’s on AOL in 2008 just before they dropped all their message boards and moved on to msn with it then to Newsvine when msn boards went away.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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7.1.3  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.2    6 years ago
Actually I’ve been posting on news and political talk message boards from AOL to MSN to Newsvine to AOL CFB refugees to political forum.com to here nonstop since late 1997.

And all these have either disappeared or the message boards were shut down, do you see a connection ? Are you trying to shut down Newstalkers too ?

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1.4  Raven Wing  replied to  pat wilson @7.1.3    6 years ago
Are you trying to shut down Newstalkers too ?

He's sure doing his best to do just that, in the mean time, he is creating as much hate and divisiveness here as he can. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  pat wilson @7.1.3    6 years ago

Don’t be ridiculous.  AOL, MSN, and Newsvine all made decisions to end all their boards or close entirely.  The pro boards AOL refugees is still going strong 10 years later and political forum.com is running strong.  A strong advocate of conservative views, opinion , news on a site is a healthy thing.  

 
 

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