I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes
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Via: johnrussell • 6 years ago • 169 comments
I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes - and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama Administration!
Most rational people know that what he is mentally abusing are the disturbed left that have him on their mind day in and day out. Some people are so out of touch with reality that they post several seeds on a blog, all with an "I hate Trump" story line, or some sort of accusation that the seeder is unable to back any of the accusations up with anything that has ever come true, even after being called out to do it several times.
Our President is driving these left wing loonies absolutely batshit crazy because they know he will be their President for the next 6.5 years, and their feeble, sensitive minds can't handle it.
Surf's Up...... Except for his mouth. He's doing a good job with some things and not so good a job with others, but all I have to do is think of the alternative and it puts a big smile on my face.
people tend to forget the second part of this statement it goes a little like this:
we elected him to flip DC on its head and rebuild America in his own way.
I say good luck with following one man and putting him in charge of America's future. cause, I'd call that a dictatorship and I want no part of it.
But I doubt anyone will admit to agreeing with the second part, that's why that part is forgotten by most. Ya cant tear down a country and not rebuild it, and many americans it seems have given one man ...trump that mandate, I find that scarry.
Well I guess we better all hope trump rebuilds America the way WE want it.
lol... Not likely.
ya cant satisfy all of the people all of the time.
Good luck America lining up behind one man, I hope he leads you well and never turns against you.
He can do nothing without the support of Congress and Constitutional decisions by the Supreme Court. At least half the country supports what he is trying to accomplish and that number is growing.
BS: trump is tearing apart the current united states government in many ways in order to "rebuild" his "Great America."
Many of trumps appointees worked against the same governmental departments in the past that they now control.
the one thing trump appointees all do seem to have in common is their idolical agreement to and loyalty to president trump himself.
When trump promised "The Best of the Best" I assumed he was talking about the best appointees for Americans not appointees who were the best for the president and the easiest to be controlled in the future by him.
He can do nothing without the support of Congress and Constitutional decisions by the Supreme Court.
true No Major changes could take place without the cooperation of many. Watch as trump continues to do all he can to help put people in power that will be loyal to him and his agenda. While all politicians do this trump especially wants yes men who are loyal to him and his agenda it makes what he wants much easier and quicker to accomplish. It also diminishes the influence others have on the direction America goes.
There it is. He has finally crossed the red line and ordered up a DOJ investigation of his political opponents, as well as career law enforcement agents. Moment of truth for Rosenstein and Sessions and moment of danger for the country.
He is ordering an investigation into whether the past administration tried to interfere in his campaign in order to get who they wanted in the White House. He was not running against Obama, so he is not investigating his political opponent.
I thought it was pretty damn funny that rudy was saying the investigation will be over soon because, "trump being under investigation would unfairly influence voters...". Is he fucking serious? Like announcing that a candidate is under FBI investigation, twice, just before a presidential election? Or like asking wiki-leaks to post damaging emails right up to the day of the same election? Could rudy be any more of a retarded hypocritical lying partisan POS? Nope.
damn funny that rudy was saying the investigation will be over soon because, "trump being under investigation would unfairly influence voters.
That's actually why Comey didn't want to announce Trump was under investigation during the campaign, (although they did make it public). Playing politics, Comey thought announcing the investigation would help Trump because it would feed the narrative that Trump was claiming a rigged election.
So Comey's already admitted the FBI didn't announce the previous investigation because he thought it might help Trump. Since the dOJ already has admitted it makes decisions based on who it will help politically, Rudy's just playing the game the DOJ has been playing.
That's actually why Comey didn't want to announce Trump was under investigation during the campaign, (although they did make it public).
But he had no problems saying that clinton was under investigation....twice. No mention of trump. But rudy wants to make sure trump doesn't get the same treatment? Like I said, partisan hack hypocrite.
I think it is really funny that Guilliani says that the Mueller investigation is over, when there has been no indication or statement from Mueller or his team stating any such thing. Wishful thinking on Guilliani and Trumps part maybe?
Trump, the suspect of having committed the crime, now wants to have the cops who are investigating him harassed. It sounds like something from an organized crime plot for a book or movie.
If you use his logic, there could be NO investigation into Russian meddling with the election, while the election was going on, since the ones ordering the investigation worked at the time for an 'opposition' administration. Trump wants a free get out of jail card for the entire year of 2016.
The fact is that the people in charge of the FBI were not partisans, they went where the inquiry and the leads took them.
Today Trump doesn't like where those leads went, so he is lashing out trying to shift attention. And his legion of deplorables is right behind him.
I'd vote for both. It is not surprising that Guilliani does not seem to know what the heck he is talking about from day to day, just like Trump. I can't help but winder just how long Rudy will last when he keeps running his mouth with total lunacy. He tends to let his mouth overload his azz to much, and I don't think Trump finds it helpful. Guilliani is too into himself and and how smart he thinks he is, and how secure he is in his job. And that is how much he under estimates Trump, and will soon find himself kicked to the curb as well. Then I wonder how arrogant and self assured he will be.
The Mueller investigation is incompetent. Going on for over a year and cost millions of dollars.
4 years, 500 million dollars, 9 investigations... If trumpy can spend 100 million taxpayer dollars a year on golf, we can damn sure afford to use the same funds to expose him for the criminal he is. And incompetent? 5 guilty pleas, one prison sentence and 19 indictments.... Doesn't sound incompetent to me.
Notice how they choose to forget that? A true convenient lapse of memory, eh? At least Mueller has some arrests and guilty pleas out his investigations so far, which is more than can be said of the Benghazi and Clinton investigations after all these years, and how many millions of taxpayers money wasted, that could have been put to far better use to help those who need it.
(yawn) yet another thrilling investigation summoned forth at supposed threat or minor irritation to the king. It'll provide great propaganda hay for a couple months through the midterms and then dry up and blow away, except for those that see conspiracies...everywhere.
I think I'll blame it on daytime soaps, people think that they need that drama and intrigue or conspiracies or their not living a full, real life.
The picture of trump says it all. "O BOY, I SIC'ED THE DOJ ON SOME MORE PEOPLE, WHAT FUN!!!!!" "NOW WHO ELSE CAN I SIC MY DOJ ON, I'M HAVING A BALL!!!!"
No, I mean how EVERYBODY is out to get poor, poor trump and all the other poor innocent hard liners.
How's the investigation into Clinton's charity goin'? Still more nothing?
When are the fearless P.I.s that trump sent to Hawaii to get the goods on Obama doing? Probably still sitting on the beach drinking on trump's dime, except they never existed.
And weren't you going to arrest Obama and set him before a federal judge and then sent him and Clinton to prison forever JUST as soon as he left office?
I won't bother to list the rest, it'd just roll off you head like water off a duck anyway.
except for those that see conspiracies...everywhere.
You mean like "Russian collusion"?
Yea, didn't you know that Trump snuck in the DNC and stole their hard drive. Then he called his buddy Putin to send a KGB agent to pick it up and carry it to Wikileaks with instructions on what to release and when to do.
Me too, PJ. How many times have we been warned, from the founding fathers on about how easy it is to loose the freedoms that others have fought and died for?
Yes, these supporters are so blinded by (fill in the blank) that they refuse to see beyond their own desires whether it is driven by greed, entitlement, racism, or simply fear of change. I've never seen this form of extreme devotion before. I think we can look back in history and see examples of this extremism that led to devastating results but I never thought I'd witness it first hand in my lifetime. It's horrifying and fascinating at the same time. Kinda like a train wreck. You don't want to see the results but it's too gripping to turn away.
I used to wonder how Hitler who first tried to overthrow the German government by violence (and went to prison for it to write "Mine Kampf" ) who first came to power by a 39% vote could get SO many to join in his insane hatred and lust for world conquest, but NOW I can see how it works in this country. I hope it's not time for WWIII with the U.S. playing the Nazi this time.
I used to wonder how Hitler who first tried to overthrow the German government by violence (and went to prison for it to write "Mine Kampf" ) who first came to power by a 39% vote could get SO many to join in his insane hatred and lust for world conquest
We're witnessing how hatred can be far more powerful than truth. It's interesting to witness this first hand. We should have expected this type of rise up after the country's first black president. It's the pendulum swinging.
Exactly correct, the left hatred is more powerful than the truth.
Our entire government is run by republicans. Mueller is a republican, appointed by a republican by a republican president. Your right to blame the left is long gone. Own it.
Sean - I accept that you and other members here are avid supporters of this President. There's nothing I can say that will have any impact on how you look at the actions of this President, his Administration or the Republican led Congress and Senate. You will continue to defend him no matter what and that is your right. It will be interesting to see how history will reflect on this President, his supporters and his critics.
so many people could throw aside our laws and Constitution.
What do you imagine is happening to support that hyperbole?
It beats me. I think it's his mouth that has a grip on them. He has followed the Constitution to the letter. The Liberal court told him he couldn't ban anyone, so he stopped immediately, unlike Obama did many things outside the Constitution. For one, he changed Obamacare numerous times. He didn't have the power to do that. To make the changes it was supposed to be done through our Legislature, but that didn't stop him and the Republican Congress were afraid they would be called Racist if they pursued any actions against him. He broke the law by performing action that weren't within his power. In other words, he acted outside the Constitution.
Now, tell me what Trump has done outside the law PJ.or any of the rest of you tell me. Nothing. He runs his mouth, but he is nowhere near the government Obama was running when he was President. The IRS thing. Lois Lerna failed to be fair with any conservative groups, talked, pleaded the 5th, took her retirement and went home.
The government you complain about existed under Obama, not Trump. The government is working more like it should now that checks and balances are being used and the different branches are doing their jobs better, not working for the President as they were during Obama's Administration.
Ah....the new talking point to try and justify the executive branches overreach. Beware - you and other President Trump supporters are setting a precedence.
The SCOTUS is at the top of the judicial branch, and not even the POTUS can fire a chief justice. And before you scream that it's a conservative SCOTUS? They aren't going to break the law to save donny. Our constitution will decide and by the looks of things? Donny is in for a rough ride... LOL
And the great thing is, the new Republican appointee to the SCOTUS who they think will be sure to vote for their side in all things, did not follow that pattern or political loyalty, he followed the Constitution in his first ruling, which went against the GOP. So I think the GOP needs to rethink their reliance on him as their ace in the hole.
Dude - I think I'm quite capable of reading all the words. As I said earlier..... you and your friends are allowing a precedence to be set. Remember this going forward when there's a President you don't like in the WH.
Dude - I think you've either been in the sun too long or out in the cold too long. Take a break.
I know some of you are desperate to have someone go to jail from the previous leadership but I don't think that's going to happen. Of course I could be wrong.
seriously... if anyone else was elected beside trump I would agree with you.. no one goes to jail
but I have to say something has changed. the criminals that have been selling us out have their backs to the wall in broad day light... this will not simply "go away"
if an adminsitration is allowed to spy on, set up, and then try to prosecute or undermine an incoming president based on manufactured evidence?? that is the end of our country.
someone has to go to jail or the doj and fbi will never be trusted again.
the only real question is simple.
will the first to fall land on their swords for those at the top of the administration?
WHEN!?! The conservatives have been threatening them for YEARS now, but they can't seem to find any actual wrong-doing and have yet to produce anything like...evidence except in fux world.
Is this called "bully politics", where the idea is to threaten and try to intimidate people into total obedience, or is it they just started down a long, long road that they can't get off of without admitting it was all hot air to con you into line?
LOL Looks like we've reached the point where we have to beware, lest the not-so-secret police in the form of the DOJ "will get you if you don't watch out?" Sorta like the S.S.
Much of what you posted is speculation. You continue to assume the accusations are true without waiting for anything to be proven. Based on your formula for conviction you can't cry foul against those who have done the same thing against this President.
obama, hillary, lynch, and crew, are going to be needing criminal attorneys.
Sure, if you say so. And Clinton? 9 investigations and you want more? We are not even through ONE investigation into trumps crimes and the right is already crying? LMFAO!!!!
Sure, if you say so. And Clinton? 9 investigations
she got a walk by the currupt doj and fbi under obama. ya know.. the same people who are now in the spotlight for outright corruption.
now? that whole admin under obama is going to have a lot of good fun over the next yr or so. their testimony will be hilarious... I bet they plead the fifth... lol
but back to your point.... do ya think 10 is clintons lucky number?
I have been watching the criminals in dc for well over 30yrs and have never been wrong about such things.
every election (obama and trump included) and every supreme court case I had interest in I predicted the result accurately even if I did not like the result of that prediction.
speculation you say? you do not know me.
when I am found to be wrong... be sure to bring it up then. but for now, my speculations are still batting 1000
Do you really think that all 9 investigations were done by ONE person? Seriously? They were done by literally HUNDREDS of people, are you now going to tell us that they were ALL corrupt? Did you forget about Trey Gowdy? Do you really think that if all of these investigations, (and he was in on ALL of them), were corrupt, he wouldn't say anything? These investigations are done by both parties. Save me the, "well, Obama's FBI.....blah blah blah..." bullshit. Congress spent over 800 days investigating...they found NOTHING...
Would you complain if trump were investigated 9 times for the exact same thing? Pretty sure there would be a tiny bit of outrage from the right....but yet another for clinton? Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That could certainly be the case. You're right I do not know you but that doesn't change the fact that currently what you're suggesting is speculation. I don't mean that in a smartass way, just matter of factly.
I missed that. What "manufactured" evidence did they put up? ALSO, if there is ANYBODY I want watched, it a Presidential Candidate.
Why do ultra-conservatives want to work in the dark so much, with no prying eyes? Why do they cry so hard at ANY investigation of any Conservative actions but can't get enough investigations of their "enemies", (Real or imagined.)
Something about how evil hates the light of day, perhaps?
A lack of congressional acquiescence didn’t stop this president. Even in Obama’s first term, the administration launched a “We Can’t Wait” initiative, with senior aide Dan Pfeiffer explaining that “when Congress won’t act, this president will.” And when the reelected President Obama announced his second-term economic plans, he said that “I will not allow gridlock, or inaction, or willful indifference to get in our way.”
But no matter how much you hold it up to the light—and no matter what textual penumbras you induce—there’s no “gridlock clause” in the Constitution by which the president’s power increases to the extent Congress doesn’t support him. Indeed, gridlock is a feature of our system, not a bug, meant to check executive abuse and majoritarian populism both.
Now tell me what Trump has done that wasn't within the powers of his office as President? If none of you can think of anything, you need to wake up, you've been duped by Obama for 8 years. His Political Correctness didn't mean he wasn't breaking the law one time after another. His administration was far more a dictatorship with his FBI, DOJ and all the rest of the Establishment who have been working in Washington doing whatever they wanted. A law didn't pass, they'd make a regulation that was equal to the failed law.
'Yes, Captain Oblivious is here, but have you seen Secret Agent Man lately?'
Yeah I have but he asked me to stop calling him that. I didn't know people who worked for the CIA were so easily provoked. 'Stop calling me that or I'll report you for taunting.' Bad ass!
Actually, ALL those people and departments are supposed to be working for the good of the citizens of the U.S. and make the country safe and free and be responsible TO the citizens of the U.S., or George Washington and the rest of the founding fathers wouldn't have gone through all that effort to set up a democratic republic, Washington would have just declared himself dictator after the Revolutionary war and if the other founding fathers objected he could have had them shot for insurrection (and because they had served their purpose) as was the common method in Europe at the time.
Lincoln, the Liberal, also thought that way. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" or whichever order that statement is in. Wonder when that changed?
so the doj is part of the peoples branch of government?
Yep, the same people that pay taxes, which pays these turds their wages, and they vote. By all means, show me where it says that the DOJ doesn't work for the American people, and works solely for the POTUS...
Are trumps actions those that an innocent man would engage in? Nope. Not even close. Trump and his crime syndicate are getting desperate, they are grasping at straws and trying to find any way they can to discredit or stop the investigation. A few months back he got fox fake news to engage in a smear campaign against Mueller, it went on daily for about a month, and when it had no effect? It suddenly stopped. One thing I think the right keeps forgetting is that this investigation is being done by republicans. And spare me the "RINO" BS. Now they are manufacturing a story about a spy in place by the FBI in the trump campaign? Wait....who is this spy? Do they have any proof at all? There was no spy. This is just yet another sad and ridiculous attempt to cast doubt and divert attention. Sadly, Mueller could not care less, he just keeps working and letting trumpy and his incompetent staff run their filthy sewers.
Besides...if this investigation fails....Dems can pick it up and investigate it again...in fact....7 more times before the right can start complaining... I mean, fair is fair right? And when will trump be questioned on live tv for 11 hours? *crickets*
An innocent man would shut up and let the investigation run it's course. If trump is truly innocent, he has nothing to hide and trump actions alone scream out that he is guilty as hell. The best part? Even if Sessions and Mueller are fired? The investigation will continue. There is literally nothing donny can do to stop it.
An innocent man would shut up and let the investigation run it's course.
complete BS manufactured by the left in their world where innocent people plead the fifth and guilty people speak out against their accusers... too damn funny for words.
I will... Have they even been CHARGED? No. You have been after clinton for 20 years and you have never even CHARGED her with a crime... Sad. And Obama? The only people saying he is guilty of ANYTHING are the far right wing fake news sites... Is trumps FBI going after Obama? No. Why not? Because there is nothing to go after him FOR...
WOW! Do you really imagine that either one lays awake nights worrying over that ultra-conservative fertilizer?
If so, I really admire the way Obama worries, he's having a ball and still has more influence in other countries than trump does. What a life he has. The worrying is just killing him on his jet skis or whatever he's playing with this week, you can tell by those big smiles!
A few months ago Trump wanted Jeff Sessions, a Trump lackey, to investigate the same thing that Trump is now calling again for from Rosenstein, and Sessions said no. This time Trump has ramped up his desperation some more, ranting in unhinged tweets. The situation on the ground is the same as when Sessions said no - the FBI did nothing wrong in it's investigation of the Trump campaign. They are doing their job.
This gaslighting has to stop before the country is destroyed by right wing deceit.
So you agree that Comey, Hilary, Brennan, Yates and others are all guilty, because every one of them have attacked the President n more ways than one, and none with any evidence.
1. The president with this new 'proclamation' is---------------under estimating his lack of standing.
2. Trump claims 'there is no Russian collusion.' The I assume the same could be said for the Rosenberg's.
3. During The Patriot Act discussions the conservatives cried, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." If the Trump is so innocent why does he protest so much? A thorough and complete investigation would prove his innocence. Unless of course, there is more to 'the Russia thing' than simply the Russians.
It seems this site is incapable of discussing the issue without throwing in partisan politics. Everything is a personal attack and mean spirited comments.
Its so tiresome. I should probably take another hiaitis.
Donald Trump invited Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails on Wednesday, asking one of America’s longstanding geopolitical adversaries to find “the 30,000 emails that are missing” from the personal server she used during her time as secretary of state.
That was on July 27 of 2016. The FBI investigation of the Trump campaign commenced sometime after that, I believe.
We also heard that Donald Trump personally concocted a cover up excuse for the Trump Tower meeting, instructing his people to all say that the meeting was entirely about "adoption" when he knew by that time that his son used the meeting to seek political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
IN THEMSELVES these two items should have and did draw attention of investigators toward Trump and his campaign. The only thing he is victim of is his own arrogance and stupidity.
I am very confident that Mueller will report misdoings on Trump's part and on his campaign's part. Whether they will rise to removable offenses in terms of his presidency remains to be seen.
As far as him being the victim of a "witch hunt"? That is laughable.
I guess it's not so much the insults that are the issue for me (which I why I virtually never flag) but the complete lack of intellectually substantive commentary by the right wingers here. There's probably just a few who spoil it for everyone else but since the time I joined it seems the site has devolved into endless seeds based on RW conspiracy theories or similar bogus issues devoid of content. I do come here for a debate not an echo chamber, but I've been feeling that something is missing for me. I'm not sure that's something you or the other mods can easily fix.
If you are not finding the kinds of discussions that you are looking for, please feel free to seed the types and be in control of content. There are good people here who want to debate.. and we have a new publisher soon coming which will make seeding much more easy.
Please feel free to contact me with any other thoughts.
I guess it's not so much the insults that are the issue for me
Just a bit of friendly advice for you. If you stop accusing everyone that does not agree with you as racist or bigot, maybe the insults towards you will stop.
Nobody in their right mind supports Donald Trump, and it's painfully obvious that he's neck deep in scandal. The White House is a total gong show, also obvious, and Donald Trump is the most dangerous, corrupt, lawless, and mentally unbalanced person to ever hold office, obvious again. Trump diminishes America with each day he spends in office, and left/right politics have NOTHING to do with it.
Trump supporters are simply not worth taking seriously, and debating Trump's value is ridiculous.
Just a bit of friendly advice for you. If you stop accusing everyone that does not agree with you as racist or bigot, maybe the insults towards you will stop.
Hmmm......as my comment upthread noted I'm not at all concerned about insults. But if you or other right wingers don't want to be called out as bigots then perhaps you should stop acting that way? Or at least learn the definition of English words.....in another thread one of your buddies is arguing that racism and homophobia aren't forms of prejudice. Just a bit of friendly advice for you.
But if you or other right wingers don't want to be called out as bigots then perhaps you should stop acting that way?
Exactly what is "acting that way"? Is it not toeing your idea of what a bigot or racist is? Is it not falling in line with the liberal line of thought? I don't know who "my friend" is, as I speak for myself.
BTW, racism and homophobia are not forms of prejudice. They are more in line with bigotry. Honestly, I'm surprised you did not know that, as you tend to label alot of people on here all of these terms, simply because they disagree with you.
Maybe this will help you change your train of thought.
IMO.....the middle class stopped being heard by both Parties and they had enough. Trump told us what we needed to hear. That we were worth something. Then, Hillary the bitch, pranced in and told the minorities what they wanted to hear. We barely made it out of the trenches. Obama winning second term almost seems like a set up with McCain and Palin. Why In the hell Palin? Nothing wrong with the lady, but for VP?
Extremely gullible country mice who believed everything their supposed Billionaire cousin City Mouse told them about how rich he was (though they never demanded to see his tax returns) and how he was going to make all of them rich too by defeating the "City rats" who he claimed had been keeping the mice down. He told them how the "City rats" took all the mouse jobs and how dirty and virulent the lifestyles the rats lead are. City Mouse also promised the country mice he'd bring back their jobs mining for dirty cheese even though solar cheese was now available, he told them he'd build a wall so none of the criminal and rapist rats could get into the country, he appealed to their country mouse natures and told them they were special white mice who shouldn't be ashamed of their fur, that they should be proud of their heritage. City mouse was even able to stir up a whole mob of country mice who brandished their "No Rats" signs and marched while chanting "Rats will not replace us!". It was on this false rhetoric that City Mouse was able to ride the tide of gullible lied to country mice into power. The only thing left to do is for the big city mouse to reveal he was the real rat all along and made a mint selling off our country, mice and all, to the highest foreign bidder. "You knew damn well I was a rat before you took me in...".
He's probably due to a genetic defect defect during conception, either an extra chromosome or a missing one. Or he could be due to some flaw during fetal development. But regardless of the specific origin it's clear that sociopathy is innate. I'm sure his parents knew something was seriously wrong by the time he was a toddler.
trump smells blood in the water... LOL
people will be going to jail.
Cheers
He must have cut himself.
did he eat the pain like obama and podesta do?
trump smells blood in the water... LOL
people will be going to jail.
Cheers
Yep, all kinds of left-wing, progressive, Democrat, people! I'm so excited!
Fox says it and Trump runs with the lie.
Yeah, he will. Trump continues to INTENTIONALLY mislead the American people. I think he should be impeached on that basis alone.
Not only is he lying in an out of control way, he is mentally abusing his gullible followers.
Most rational people know that what he is mentally abusing are the disturbed left that have him on their mind day in and day out. Some people are so out of touch with reality that they post several seeds on a blog, all with an "I hate Trump" story line, or some sort of accusation that the seeder is unable to back any of the accusations up with anything that has ever come true, even after being called out to do it several times.
Our President is driving these left wing loonies absolutely batshit crazy because they know he will be their President for the next 6.5 years, and their feeble, sensitive minds can't handle it.
LOL you are funny.
trump is not going to jail. he will be re-elected and then remembered as a great president.
just curious here...
everything you ever predicted or stood ground on has been wrong... what makes you think today is any different?
Surf's Up...... Except for his mouth. He's doing a good job with some things and not so good a job with others, but all I have to do is think of the alternative and it puts a big smile on my face.
people did not elect trump expecting him to change and suddenly speak like a politician.
we elected him to flip DC on its head and he is doing just that.
Cheers
people tend to forget the second part of this statement it goes a little like this:
we elected him to flip DC on its head and rebuild America in his own way.
I say good luck with following one man and putting him in charge of America's future. cause, I'd call that a dictatorship and I want no part of it.
But I doubt anyone will admit to agreeing with the second part, that's why that part is forgotten by most. Ya cant tear down a country and not rebuild it, and many americans it seems have given one man ...trump that mandate, I find that scarry.
Well I guess we better all hope trump rebuilds America the way WE want it.
lol... Not likely.
ya cant satisfy all of the people all of the time.
Good luck America lining up behind one man, I hope he leads you well and never turns against you.
also not likely
remember the pied piper story ? .......... I do.
ya got that right....
Cheers
BS: trump is tearing apart the current united states government in many ways in order to "rebuild" his "Great America."
Many of trumps appointees worked against the same governmental departments in the past that they now control.
the one thing trump appointees all do seem to have in common is their idolical agreement to and loyalty to president trump himself.
When trump promised "The Best of the Best" I assumed he was talking about the best appointees for Americans not appointees who were the best for the president and the easiest to be controlled in the future by him.
holding people accountable for their crimes while in government only strengthens our current government.
but hey no worries... they are all innocent right? they have nothing to fear do they?
when they are found to be innocent? trump will be a laughing stock right?
it will all work out in the end
true No Major changes could take place without the cooperation of many. Watch as trump continues to do all he can to help put people in power that will be loyal to him and his agenda. While all politicians do this trump especially wants yes men who are loyal to him and his agenda it makes what he wants much easier and quicker to accomplish. It also diminishes the influence others have on the direction America goes.
He created 15 million jobs, got us out of the republican recession....Heck with it, look for yourself.
I agree. When suspected it should be investigated. When and where there is criminal activity in our government it should be weeded out and punished.
So says the one who was admonished to "get a grip". Seriously JR, you're the one who seems to be out of control.
Matthew Miller Retweeted Donald J. Trump
There it is. He has finally crossed the red line and ordered up a DOJ investigation of his political opponents, as well as career law enforcement agents. Moment of truth for Rosenstein and Sessions and moment of danger for the country.
Wrong.....yet again.
He is ordering an investigation into whether the past administration tried to interfere in his campaign in order to get who they wanted in the White House. He was not running against Obama, so he is not investigating his political opponent.
Whoever Matthew Miller is, he is an idiot.
You're welcome.
Probably something to do with National Security, I bet. They like to use that one.
So you are saying he's pulling an Obama?
luckily obama has shown us that the liberals "red line" is more of a rainbow and it actually means nothing when crossed.
I thought it was pretty damn funny that rudy was saying the investigation will be over soon because, "trump being under investigation would unfairly influence voters...". Is he fucking serious? Like announcing that a candidate is under FBI investigation, twice, just before a presidential election? Or like asking wiki-leaks to post damaging emails right up to the day of the same election? Could rudy be any more of a retarded hypocritical lying partisan POS? Nope.
That's actually why Comey didn't want to announce Trump was under investigation during the campaign, (although they did make it public). Playing politics, Comey thought announcing the investigation would help Trump because it would feed the narrative that Trump was claiming a rigged election.
So Comey's already admitted the FBI didn't announce the previous investigation because he thought it might help Trump. Since the dOJ already has admitted it makes decisions based on who it will help politically, Rudy's just playing the game the DOJ has been playing.
But he had no problems saying that clinton was under investigation....twice. No mention of trump. But rudy wants to make sure trump doesn't get the same treatment? Like I said, partisan hack hypocrite.
I think it is really funny that Guilliani says that the Mueller investigation is over, when there has been no indication or statement from Mueller or his team stating any such thing. Wishful thinking on Guilliani and Trumps part maybe?
Trump, the suspect of having committed the crime, now wants to have the cops who are investigating him harassed. It sounds like something from an organized crime plot for a book or movie.
If you use his logic, there could be NO investigation into Russian meddling with the election, while the election was going on, since the ones ordering the investigation worked at the time for an 'opposition' administration. Trump wants a free get out of jail card for the entire year of 2016.
The fact is that the people in charge of the FBI were not partisans, they went where the inquiry and the leads took them.
Today Trump doesn't like where those leads went, so he is lashing out trying to shift attention. And his legion of deplorables is right behind him.
According to trumps people the investigation ended last December.. Rudy is either senile or stupid.
I'd vote for both. It is not surprising that Guilliani does not seem to know what the heck he is talking about from day to day, just like Trump. I can't help but winder just how long Rudy will last when he keeps running his mouth with total lunacy. He tends to let his mouth overload his azz to much, and I don't think Trump finds it helpful. Guilliani is too into himself and and how smart he thinks he is, and how secure he is in his job. And that is how much he under estimates Trump, and will soon find himself kicked to the curb as well. Then I wonder how arrogant and self assured he will be.
4 years, 500 million dollars, 9 investigations... If trumpy can spend 100 million taxpayer dollars a year on golf, we can damn sure afford to use the same funds to expose him for the criminal he is. And incompetent? 5 guilty pleas, one prison sentence and 19 indictments.... Doesn't sound incompetent to me.
Notice how they choose to forget that? A true convenient lapse of memory, eh? At least Mueller has some arrests and guilty pleas out his investigations so far, which is more than can be said of the Benghazi and Clinton investigations after all these years, and how many millions of taxpayers money wasted, that could have been put to far better use to help those who need it.
Exactly right.
Hillary: 72 months of investigations - 0 indictments.
Trump: 14 months of investigations -19 indictments, 5 guilty pleas, one prison sentence..
But the right wants to shut this investigation down, and reopen more Hillary investigations? LMFAO!
none of which have anything to do with trump.
well then... she can handle 12 more months no worries.
something tells me her current record will not stand the strain
Cheers
(yawn) yet another thrilling investigation summoned forth at supposed threat or minor irritation to the king. It'll provide great propaganda hay for a couple months through the midterms and then dry up and blow away, except for those that see conspiracies...everywhere.
I think I'll blame it on daytime soaps, people think that they need that drama and intrigue or conspiracies or their not living a full, real life.
The picture of trump says it all. "O BOY, I SIC'ED THE DOJ ON SOME MORE PEOPLE, WHAT FUN!!!!!" "NOW WHO ELSE CAN I SIC MY DOJ ON, I'M HAVING A BALL!!!!"
You mean like "Russian collusion"?
No, I mean how EVERYBODY is out to get poor, poor trump and all the other poor innocent hard liners.
How's the investigation into Clinton's charity goin'? Still more nothing?
When are the fearless P.I.s that trump sent to Hawaii to get the goods on Obama doing? Probably still sitting on the beach drinking on trump's dime, except they never existed.
And weren't you going to arrest Obama and set him before a federal judge and then sent him and Clinton to prison forever JUST as soon as he left office?
I won't bother to list the rest, it'd just roll off you head like water off a duck anyway.
Yea, didn't you know that Trump snuck in the DNC and stole their hard drive. Then he called his buddy Putin to send a KGB agent to pick it up and carry it to Wikileaks with instructions on what to release and when to do.
No, you meant "Russian collusion"...
* THEY'RE not living a full, real life.
Maybe people act like this because their own lives are boring, just sittin' around watching fux all day.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread" - Galatians 4:19 - Thus The Blunderer in Chief demanded his own downfall...
I find this whole Presidency disturbing but I'm more sick over how so many people could throw aside our laws and Constitution.
Me too, PJ. How many times have we been warned, from the founding fathers on about how easy it is to loose the freedoms that others have fought and died for?
Me three.
Yes, these supporters are so blinded by (fill in the blank) that they refuse to see beyond their own desires whether it is driven by greed, entitlement, racism, or simply fear of change. I've never seen this form of extreme devotion before. I think we can look back in history and see examples of this extremism that led to devastating results but I never thought I'd witness it first hand in my lifetime. It's horrifying and fascinating at the same time. Kinda like a train wreck. You don't want to see the results but it's too gripping to turn away.
I used to wonder how Hitler who first tried to overthrow the German government by violence (and went to prison for it to write "Mine Kampf" ) who first came to power by a 39% vote could get SO many to join in his insane hatred and lust for world conquest, but NOW I can see how it works in this country. I hope it's not time for WWIII with the U.S. playing the Nazi this time.
We're witnessing how hatred can be far more powerful than truth. It's interesting to witness this first hand. We should have expected this type of rise up after the country's first black president. It's the pendulum swinging.
Our entire government is run by republicans. Mueller is a republican, appointed by a republican by a republican president. Your right to blame the left is long gone. Own it.
What do you imagine is happening to support that hyperbole?
Sean - I accept that you and other members here are avid supporters of this President. There's nothing I can say that will have any impact on how you look at the actions of this President, his Administration or the Republican led Congress and Senate. You will continue to defend him no matter what and that is your right. It will be interesting to see how history will reflect on this President, his supporters and his critics.
Would vote you up twice for that comment if I could.
"There's nothing I can say that will have any impact on how you look at the actions of this President..."
At least no shrill emotional rants...
What's the point of your comment other than to be mean?
The point is to suggest you try reason and facts rather than hysterical hyperbole. Any meanness is just a bonus.
okay.......so you're intentionally trying to be mean to me? Too weird.
So... you think bonus and intentional are the same? I suggest more effort on parsing comments. As for meanness, your hypocrisy is stunning.
Good to see you again Cerenkov. Ciao
It's in the GOP/Fascist handbook, "when in doubt, strike out." Intimidate or insult.
It beats me. I think it's his mouth that has a grip on them. He has followed the Constitution to the letter. The Liberal court told him he couldn't ban anyone, so he stopped immediately, unlike Obama did many things outside the Constitution. For one, he changed Obamacare numerous times. He didn't have the power to do that. To make the changes it was supposed to be done through our Legislature, but that didn't stop him and the Republican Congress were afraid they would be called Racist if they pursued any actions against him. He broke the law by performing action that weren't within his power. In other words, he acted outside the Constitution.
Now, tell me what Trump has done outside the law PJ.or any of the rest of you tell me. Nothing. He runs his mouth, but he is nowhere near the government Obama was running when he was President. The IRS thing. Lois Lerna failed to be fair with any conservative groups, talked, pleaded the 5th, took her retirement and went home.
The government you complain about existed under Obama, not Trump. The government is working more like it should now that checks and balances are being used and the different branches are doing their jobs better, not working for the President as they were during Obama's Administration.
and will finish with a better record than obama had at the supreme court as well.
Rosenstein has evidently asked the Inspector General for the Dept. of Justice to look into the President*'s concerns.
Most of what I am seeing suggests that Rosenstein is trying to give Trump a shiny object to make him a happy toddler.
Could someone please tell Grandpa that there is a reason the executive branch is SEPARATE from the judicial branch? Thanks!
nothing doing grandpa...
the DOJ is part of executive branch
you are welcome anyway.
note: if session's does not produce? he will be fired.
cheers
Ah....the new talking point to try and justify the executive branches overreach. Beware - you and other President Trump supporters are setting a precedence.
What goes up comes down.
You are confused. The DOJ is not the presidents personal lawyer. He would need someone like....Cohe.......oh wait.
pay attention and read all the words this time...
there is no overreach.
Cheers
Swing and a miss......
The SCOTUS is at the top of the judicial branch, and not even the POTUS can fire a chief justice. And before you scream that it's a conservative SCOTUS? They aren't going to break the law to save donny. Our constitution will decide and by the looks of things? Donny is in for a rough ride... LOL
And the great thing is, the new Republican appointee to the SCOTUS who they think will be sure to vote for their side in all things, did not follow that pattern or political loyalty, he followed the Constitution in his first ruling, which went against the GOP. So I think the GOP needs to rethink their reliance on him as their ace in the hole.
Dude - I think I'm quite capable of reading all the words. As I said earlier..... you and your friends are allowing a precedence to be set. Remember this going forward when there's a President you don't like in the WH.
duh.
and the president is the top of the executive branch and the doj is part of the executive branch
scroll down = the dept of justice is clearly listed.
Funny that's what we said when the dem clowns invoked the nuclear option and when Obama relied exclusively on executive orders. Funny stuff.
we have already seen it with an outgoing president. and this is the result you should have warned them about.
obama, hillary, lynch, and crew, are going to be needing criminal attorneys.
I agree. And it bit them on the ass. It will not fair well for this group in power later either.
Dude - I think you've either been in the sun too long or out in the cold too long. Take a break.
I know some of you are desperate to have someone go to jail from the previous leadership but I don't think that's going to happen. Of course I could be wrong.
seriously... if anyone else was elected beside trump I would agree with you.. no one goes to jail
but I have to say something has changed. the criminals that have been selling us out have their backs to the wall in broad day light... this will not simply "go away"
if an adminsitration is allowed to spy on, set up, and then try to prosecute or undermine an incoming president based on manufactured evidence?? that is the end of our country.
someone has to go to jail or the doj and fbi will never be trusted again.
the only real question is simple.
will the first to fall land on their swords for those at the top of the administration?
WHEN!?! The conservatives have been threatening them for YEARS now, but they can't seem to find any actual wrong-doing and have yet to produce anything like...evidence except in fux world.
Is this called "bully politics", where the idea is to threaten and try to intimidate people into total obedience, or is it they just started down a long, long road that they can't get off of without admitting it was all hot air to con you into line?
LOL Looks like we've reached the point where we have to beware, lest the not-so-secret police in the form of the DOJ "will get you if you don't watch out?" Sorta like the S.S.
Much of what you posted is speculation. You continue to assume the accusations are true without waiting for anything to be proven. Based on your formula for conviction you can't cry foul against those who have done the same thing against this President.
Sure, if you say so. And Clinton? 9 investigations and you want more? We are not even through ONE investigation into trumps crimes and the right is already crying? LMFAO!!!!
she got a walk by the currupt doj and fbi under obama. ya know.. the same people who are now in the spotlight for outright corruption.
now? that whole admin under obama is going to have a lot of good fun over the next yr or so. their testimony will be hilarious... I bet they plead the fifth... lol
but back to your point.... do ya think 10 is clintons lucky number?
I have been watching the criminals in dc for well over 30yrs and have never been wrong about such things.
every election (obama and trump included) and every supreme court case I had interest in I predicted the result accurately even if I did not like the result of that prediction.
speculation you say? you do not know me.
when I am found to be wrong... be sure to bring it up then. but for now, my speculations are still batting 1000
cheers
Do you really think that all 9 investigations were done by ONE person? Seriously? They were done by literally HUNDREDS of people, are you now going to tell us that they were ALL corrupt? Did you forget about Trey Gowdy? Do you really think that if all of these investigations, (and he was in on ALL of them), were corrupt, he wouldn't say anything? These investigations are done by both parties. Save me the, "well, Obama's FBI.....blah blah blah..." bullshit. Congress spent over 800 days investigating...they found NOTHING...
What's that the right is always saying?
"She won, you lost."
Got it?
LOL
the upcoming year is going to be a long year for you huh?
Would you complain if trump were investigated 9 times for the exact same thing? Pretty sure there would be a tiny bit of outrage from the right....but yet another for clinton? Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SMH
That could certainly be the case. You're right I do not know you but that doesn't change the fact that currently what you're suggesting is speculation. I don't mean that in a smartass way, just matter of factly.
I missed that. What "manufactured" evidence did they put up? ALSO, if there is ANYBODY I want watched, it a Presidential Candidate.
Why do ultra-conservatives want to work in the dark so much, with no prying eyes? Why do they cry so hard at ANY investigation of any Conservative actions but can't get enough investigations of their "enemies", (Real or imagined.)
Something about how evil hates the light of day, perhaps?
Newp! It's going to be a long year from trump and his supporters.
You mean like these?
A lack of congressional acquiescence didn’t stop this president. Even in Obama’s first term, the administration launched a “We Can’t Wait” initiative, with senior aide Dan Pfeiffer explaining that “when Congress won’t act, this president will.” And when the reelected President Obama announced his second-term economic plans, he said that “I will not allow gridlock, or inaction, or willful indifference to get in our way.”
But no matter how much you hold it up to the light—and no matter what textual penumbras you induce—there’s no “gridlock clause” in the Constitution by which the president’s power increases to the extent Congress doesn’t support him. Indeed, gridlock is a feature of our system, not a bug, meant to check executive abuse and majoritarian populism both.
Now tell me what Trump has done that wasn't within the powers of his office as President? If none of you can think of anything, you need to wake up, you've been duped by Obama for 8 years. His Political Correctness didn't mean he wasn't breaking the law one time after another. His administration was far more a dictatorship with his FBI, DOJ and all the rest of the Establishment who have been working in Washington doing whatever they wanted. A law didn't pass, they'd make a regulation that was equal to the failed law.
Read ALL my comments..
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I agree - not only is she incredibly talented but she's not a thug or a con artist, much less a racist moron.
Yes, Captain Oblivious is here, but have you seen Secret Agent Man lately?
Yeah I have but he asked me to stop calling him that. I didn't know people who worked for the CIA were so easily provoked. 'Stop calling me that or I'll report you for taunting.' Bad ass!
Be nice to him, Tessy, it must be tough when they give you a number and take away your name!
That's really really wrong. The DOJ works for the POTUS.
Um, no, they work for the American people. Nice try though.
LOL
so the doj is part of the peoples branch of government?
you seriously crack me up
Actually, ALL those people and departments are supposed to be working for the good of the citizens of the U.S. and make the country safe and free and be responsible TO the citizens of the U.S., or George Washington and the rest of the founding fathers wouldn't have gone through all that effort to set up a democratic republic, Washington would have just declared himself dictator after the Revolutionary war and if the other founding fathers objected he could have had them shot for insurrection (and because they had served their purpose) as was the common method in Europe at the time.
Lincoln, the Liberal, also thought that way. "Of the people, by the people, for the people" or whichever order that statement is in. Wonder when that changed?
Not exactly. Perhaps you should have Richard Nixon explain the issue to you?
Yep, the same people that pay taxes, which pays these turds their wages, and they vote. By all means, show me where it says that the DOJ doesn't work for the American people, and works solely for the POTUS...
We'll wait.
I suspect to a degree long ago when money stated buying elections.
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Are trumps actions those that an innocent man would engage in? Nope. Not even close. Trump and his crime syndicate are getting desperate, they are grasping at straws and trying to find any way they can to discredit or stop the investigation. A few months back he got fox fake news to engage in a smear campaign against Mueller, it went on daily for about a month, and when it had no effect? It suddenly stopped. One thing I think the right keeps forgetting is that this investigation is being done by republicans. And spare me the "RINO" BS. Now they are manufacturing a story about a spy in place by the FBI in the trump campaign? Wait....who is this spy? Do they have any proof at all? There was no spy. This is just yet another sad and ridiculous attempt to cast doubt and divert attention. Sadly, Mueller could not care less, he just keeps working and letting trumpy and his incompetent staff run their filthy sewers.
Besides...if this investigation fails....Dems can pick it up and investigate it again...in fact....7 more times before the right can start complaining... I mean, fair is fair right? And when will trump be questioned on live tv for 11 hours? *crickets*
an innocent man will always defend himself without shame. (write that down it will be on the test)
The better hope for a curve...
An innocent man would shut up and let the investigation run it's course. If trump is truly innocent, he has nothing to hide and trump actions alone scream out that he is guilty as hell. The best part? Even if Sessions and Mueller are fired? The investigation will continue. There is literally nothing donny can do to stop it.
complete BS manufactured by the left in their world where innocent people plead the fifth and guilty people speak out against their accusers... too damn funny for words.
better buy a new spin, that one aint going to fly
cheers
want to bet obama's and hillary's lawyers tell them to shut up? ( not talk about the case )
So you are saying that Cohen is guilty then? I agree. So does trump apparently.. LOL
sorry... I did not say and I do not play those sliding conversation games.
play with your imagination elsewhere.
Cheers
Because there is no case.... duh!
Still waiting for the Trump to reveal the results of his Hawaiian Investigation about Obama's birth status.
And still waiting to see the Trump's taxes even after he publicly said at least four times that he would show them.
And still waiting to see the Trump's 'big and beautiful' healthcare plan.
Basically, a year and a half into the Trump thing and the wait continues.
LOL
you run with that... have fun.
Cheers
Yep...more of his, "unnamed sources" are working on it...
I will... Have they even been CHARGED? No. You have been after clinton for 20 years and you have never even CHARGED her with a crime... Sad. And Obama? The only people saying he is guilty of ANYTHING are the far right wing fake news sites... Is trumps FBI going after Obama? No. Why not? Because there is nothing to go after him FOR...
WOW! Do you really imagine that either one lays awake nights worrying over that ultra-conservative fertilizer?
If so, I really admire the way Obama worries, he's having a ball and still has more influence in other countries than trump does. What a life he has. The worrying is just killing him on his jet skis or whatever he's playing with this week, you can tell by those big smiles!
That's right, Surf, stick to the script or you could get yourself in trouble.
I was born trouble.
cheers
A truly innocent man will defend himself without attacking his accusers.
The other countries can have him. Want to start a fund to send him?
A few months ago Trump wanted Jeff Sessions, a Trump lackey, to investigate the same thing that Trump is now calling again for from Rosenstein, and Sessions said no. This time Trump has ramped up his desperation some more, ranting in unhinged tweets. The situation on the ground is the same as when Sessions said no - the FBI did nothing wrong in it's investigation of the Trump campaign. They are doing their job.
This gaslighting has to stop before the country is destroyed by right wing deceit.
the is reality is simple... the gaslighting stopped the day trump took office. at this point, you are just gassing your self.
although some might say "perception is reality" nothing you say can change that reality.
Cheers
That's easy......Because being a US citizen is a requirement laid out in the Constitution to be President, showing your taxes is not.
So you agree that Comey, Hilary, Brennan, Yates and others are all guilty, because every one of them have attacked the President n more ways than one, and none with any evidence.
1. The president with this new 'proclamation' is---------------under estimating his lack of standing.
2. Trump claims 'there is no Russian collusion.' The I assume the same could be said for the Rosenberg's.
3. During The Patriot Act discussions the conservatives cried, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." If the Trump is so innocent why does he protest so much? A thorough and complete investigation would prove his innocence. Unless of course, there is more to 'the Russia thing' than simply the Russians.
they would have gotten away with it had they not pushed the BS russian collusion narrative.
It seems this site is incapable of discussing the issue without throwing in partisan politics. Everything is a personal attack and mean spirited comments.
Its so tiresome. I should probably take another hiaitis.
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Don't you give a damn for your own credibility? Who we gonna believe? Our own lyin eyes, or you?
Greg - Thank you for being the the poster child for my comment. There's nothing really more to say except to point to your comment as proof.
The only one responsible for Trump's problems is Trump himself. In a nutshell, he doesn't know how to shut the fuck up.
That was on July 27 of 2016. The FBI investigation of the Trump campaign commenced sometime after that, I believe.
We also heard that Donald Trump personally concocted a cover up excuse for the Trump Tower meeting, instructing his people to all say that the meeting was entirely about "adoption" when he knew by that time that his son used the meeting to seek political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
IN THEMSELVES these two items should have and did draw attention of investigators toward Trump and his campaign. The only thing he is victim of is his own arrogance and stupidity.
I am very confident that Mueller will report misdoings on Trump's part and on his campaign's part. Whether they will rise to removable offenses in terms of his presidency remains to be seen.
As far as him being the victim of a "witch hunt"? That is laughable.
It is discouraging just how few participate in good faith and just how many are here only to stir shit...
Social media was going to advance mankind's understanding then unintended consequences ensued.
whoever said that should have talked to me first...
the idea that social media would make people smarter is simply ludicrous from the word go.
the idea that our opinions and therefore our actions (our vote) could be controlled via social media? backfired as well.
Cheers
I'm feeling the same way, PJ.
If you are not flagging personal attacks we can't do anything about it. Please flag.. the mods are doing their best to keep the site clean of insults.
I guess it's not so much the insults that are the issue for me (which I why I virtually never flag) but the complete lack of intellectually substantive commentary by the right wingers here. There's probably just a few who spoil it for everyone else but since the time I joined it seems the site has devolved into endless seeds based on RW conspiracy theories or similar bogus issues devoid of content. I do come here for a debate not an echo chamber, but I've been feeling that something is missing for me. I'm not sure that's something you or the other mods can easily fix.
Skrekk,
If you are not finding the kinds of discussions that you are looking for, please feel free to seed the types and be in control of content. There are good people here who want to debate.. and we have a new publisher soon coming which will make seeding much more easy.
Please feel free to contact me with any other thoughts.
Just a bit of friendly advice for you. If you stop accusing everyone that does not agree with you as racist or bigot, maybe the insults towards you will stop.
or white supremist
Nobody in their right mind supports Donald Trump, and it's painfully obvious that he's neck deep in scandal. The White House is a total gong show, also obvious, and Donald Trump is the most dangerous, corrupt, lawless, and mentally unbalanced person to ever hold office, obvious again. Trump diminishes America with each day he spends in office, and left/right politics have NOTHING to do with it.
Trump supporters are simply not worth taking seriously, and debating Trump's value is ridiculous.
Well I'll take President Trump over that brain damaged corrupt booze hag Hillaryious Hillary any day.
Tell us how did President Trump hurt you?
Totally agree.
Oh, come on, Leno, you know that I am!
For a fact. It is constant.
Bless your heart!
Hmmm......as my comment upthread noted I'm not at all concerned about insults. But if you or other right wingers don't want to be called out as bigots then perhaps you should stop acting that way? Or at least learn the definition of English words.....in another thread one of your buddies is arguing that racism and homophobia aren't forms of prejudice. Just a bit of friendly advice for you.
I love you to bits Mango!
You be the main man!
Keep thinking that way and liberals/democrats will be out of power for ever. What do you think gave us President Trump?
You know, that's the thing. Every post, it seems is caustic.
Exactly what is "acting that way"? Is it not toeing your idea of what a bigot or racist is? Is it not falling in line with the liberal line of thought? I don't know who "my friend" is, as I speak for myself.
BTW, racism and homophobia are not forms of prejudice. They are more in line with bigotry. Honestly, I'm surprised you did not know that, as you tend to label alot of people on here all of these terms, simply because they disagree with you.
Maybe this will help you change your train of thought.
Thank you, and Bless you heart as well.
IMO.....the middle class stopped being heard by both Parties and they had enough. Trump told us what we needed to hear. That we were worth something. Then, Hillary the bitch, pranced in and told the minorities what they wanted to hear. We barely made it out of the trenches. Obama winning second term almost seems like a set up with McCain and Palin. Why In the hell Palin? Nothing wrong with the lady, but for VP?
Extremely gullible country mice who believed everything their supposed Billionaire cousin City Mouse told them about how rich he was (though they never demanded to see his tax returns) and how he was going to make all of them rich too by defeating the "City rats" who he claimed had been keeping the mice down. He told them how the "City rats" took all the mouse jobs and how dirty and virulent the lifestyles the rats lead are. City Mouse also promised the country mice he'd bring back their jobs mining for dirty cheese even though solar cheese was now available, he told them he'd build a wall so none of the criminal and rapist rats could get into the country, he appealed to their country mouse natures and told them they were special white mice who shouldn't be ashamed of their fur, that they should be proud of their heritage. City mouse was even able to stir up a whole mob of country mice who brandished their "No Rats" signs and marched while chanting "Rats will not replace us!". It was on this false rhetoric that City Mouse was able to ride the tide of gullible lied to country mice into power. The only thing left to do is for the big city mouse to reveal he was the real rat all along and made a mint selling off our country, mice and all, to the highest foreign bidder. "You knew damn well I was a rat before you took me in...".
He's probably due to a genetic defect defect during conception, either an extra chromosome or a missing one. Or he could be due to some flaw during fetal development. But regardless of the specific origin it's clear that sociopathy is innate. I'm sure his parents knew something was seriously wrong by the time he was a toddler.
You are nothing to Donald Rump, nothing. The only one who is worth something to Donald Rump is Donald Rump.
Demand all you want you dumb turd donald rump but the investigation is going to continue.