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Guns, God, And Trump: How An Accused Russian Agent Wooed US Conservatives

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  6 years ago  •  25 comments

Guns, God, And Trump: How An Accused Russian Agent Wooed US Conservatives

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It’s hard to tell how much of the story 29-year-old Maria Butina told Americans about herself for years is real.

subbuzz261241531954961111.jpg What is clear is that in Butina, the Russian government either found or created an irresistible persona for US conservatives. The story she repeated over years of speeches and interviews — of a scrappy girl from Siberia fighting for gun rights in Russia — was carefully calibrated to show a passion for self-defense, a yearning for America’s easy access to guns, and a hint of criticism of Russia’s own laws.

Maria Butina, leader of a pro-gun organization in Russia, speaks to a crowd during a rally in support of legalizing the possession of handguns in Moscow, April 21, 2013.

On Sunday, she was arrested by FBI agents and jailed, accused of being an unregistered foreign agent tasked with influencing US foreign policy toward Russia and directed by a senior Russian government official. On Wednesday, a federal district judge ordered her held without bond as a flight risk after prosecutors detailed her links to Russian intelligence agents.

subbuzz30941153195936911.jpg Conservative groups that interacted with her declined, for the most part, to comment on the charges against her. But long before that, she had become an exotic but accepted fixture at conservative events.

Maria Butina in court Wednesday.
Dana Verkouteren / AP

She regularly attended National Rifle Association conventions. Through these events she was able to interact with powerful conservative activists and politicians, including Scott Walker, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, Donald Trump, and others, all meticulously documented on social media. At least once, she attended the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual assemblage of influential Republicans.

subbuzz23731153195869911.jpg People who spoke to BuzzFeed News about their interactions with her, as well as a review of her interviews, writings, and extensive social media posts, paint a picture of someone who knew how to push all the right conservative buttons.

Maria Butina presents a plaque to NRA President Jim Porter at the 2014 NRA convention.

Hers was a startlingly effective performance.

By the time she appeared on the popular radio show of evangelical author Eric Metaxas, who later endorsed Trump and served on his evangelical advisory council, her life story — or at least what she said was her life story — rolled off her tongue with practiced ease.

“My story is simple — my father is a hunter, I was born in Siberia,” she explained in the July 2015 interview, echoing previous talking points in which she often drew parallels to parts of the US, like South Dakota, where guns are “necessary for survival” to defend lives and property.

w858.jpg “That seems appropriate, somehow,” Metaxas interrupted, sounding delighted, when she described founding her gun rights organization in a “Moscow version of a McDonald’s,” telling her friends “we need to fight for our gun rights.”

From the Russian GQ article on Butina

“Wow, I just love the idea of this,” he said. “To think…because you know, those of us in America can be very parochial, we forget that the fight for liberty goes on for all around the globe in different guises.”

Metaxas did not respond to a request for comment.

Butina also seemed to know exactly what a conservative evangelical audience would want to hear, earnestly speaking about the growing number of churches in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the “great history of Christian religion” that she had in common with US evangelicals, her audience.

“When we talk about Russian and American relationships, the main point is Christianity, in both countries,” she told Metaxas.

According to the story she has told in Russian- and English-language interviews, Butina was born in Barnaul, Siberia, in 1988. After graduating from Altai University in her hometown with a degree in political science and education, she started a small business selling furniture but “then moved to Moscow, where power and money is better,” she wrote in an outline for a presentation she gave at the University of South Dakota in April 2015.

subbuzz23540153195867921.jpg In Moscow, she began working for Alexander Torshin, a powerful Russian banking official and close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin who was sanctioned by the US in April, and founded her pro-gun “Right to Bear Arms” group in 2011.

Maria Butina presenting a plaque to Oleg Volk in April 2015.
Via Facebook

Some experts say that the very existence of such an organization in Russia, which has stringent gun laws and little public support for loosening them, should have tipped off US authorities from the start.

People who spoke to BuzzFeed News about their interactions with her, as well as a review of her interviews, writings, and extensive social media posts, paint a picture of someone who knew how to push all the right conservative buttons.

w8582.jpg Hers was a startlingly effective performance.

From the Russian GQ article on Butina

By the time she appeared on the popular radio show of evangelical author Eric Metaxas, who later endorsed Trump and served on his evangelical advisory council, her life story — or at least what she said was her life story — rolled off her tongue with practiced ease.

“My story is simple — my father is a hunter, I was born in Siberia,” she explained in the July 2015 interview, echoing previous talking points in which she often drew parallels to parts of the US, like South Dakota, where guns are “necessary for survival” to defend lives and property.

w8583.jpg “That seems appropriate, somehow,” Metaxas interrupted, sounding delighted, when she described founding her gun rights organization in a “Moscow version of a McDonald’s,” telling her friends “we need to fight for our gun rights.”

From the Russian GQ article on Butina

“Wow, I just love the idea of this,” he said. “To think…because you know, those of us in America can be very parochial, we forget that the fight for liberty goes on for all around the globe in different guises.”

Metaxas did not respond to a request for comment.

Butina also seemed to know exactly what a conservative evangelical audience would want to hear, earnestly speaking about the growing number of churches in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the “great history of Christian religion” that she had in common with US evangelicals, her audience.

“When we talk about Russian and American relationships, the main point is Christianity, in both countries,” she told Metaxas.

According to the story she has told in Russian- and English-language interviews, Butina was born in Barnaul, Siberia, in 1988. After graduating from Altai University in her hometown with a degree in political science and education, she started a small business selling furniture but “then moved to Moscow, where power and money is better,” she wrote in an outline for a presentation she gave at the University of South Dakota in April 2015.

In Moscow, she began working for Alexander Torshin, a powerful Russian banking official and close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin who was sanctioned by the US in April, and founded her pro-gun “Right to Bear Arms” group in 2011.

w8584.jpg Some experts say that the very existence of such an organization in Russia, which has stringent gun laws and little public support for loosening them, should have tipped off US authorities from the start.

From the Russian GQ article on Butina

As part of her efforts, she gave out honorary memberships to her Russian gun rights organization in the form of ornamental blue and silver framed plaques, to people ranging from then-NRA president Jim Porter to Oleg Volk , a Tennessee-based photographer who makes pro-gun posters and graphics.

It went both ways – the connections she and Torshin made also visited them in Russia. David Keene, who served as NRA president from 2011 to 2013 as well as chair of the American Conservative Union, attended her organization’s event in Moscow in 2013. The next year, Keene invited Butina to the annual NRA convention, where she attended the group’s annual Women’s Leadership Luncheon as a guest of former NRA president Sandy Froman. A larger group of NRA and Republican officials was hosted by Butina’s group in Moscow in December 2015.

Butina was able to access “an extensive network of US persons in positions to influence political activities in the United States” through an American described in court papers as “US Person 1,” whose description closely matches Paul Erickson, a 56-year-old veteran Republican operative from South Dakota with whom she had, federal prosecutors alleged Wednesday, a “personal relationship.”

In the later years of her work she, Torshin, and Erickson tried to use these connections to set up a “back channel” to communicate with the Trump campaign, send a Russian delegation to the National Prayer Breakfast, and set up a meeting between Torshin and Donald Trump Jr. at the 2016 NRA convention.

Butina was not above using her youth to ingratiate herself, federal prosecutors allege. According to prosecutors’ filing arguing against granting her release on bond, “on at least one occasion, Butina offered an individual other than US Person 1 sex in exchange for a position within a special interest organization.”

All this was the result of years of inroads that Butina made by learning to speak the language of US conservative groups and presenting an appealing case for them to include her.

“What I saw here is great, and I believe it’s the first step for Russia,” she gushed in a 2014 video posted by all4shooters.com. “With the help of foreign circles, we can do more.”

Butina adapted her message to her audience and current events. As early as 2012, Guns.com ran a piece on her organization calling for more relaxed Russian gun laws after the Sandy Hook shooting. In her conversations with older men, she reportedly often joked about her hunting skills and mentioned she had modeled in photo shoots to promote gun rights, including a glamorous spread in Russian GQ . In an interview with Fox News contributor Katie Pavlich for Townhall.com, she expressed admiration for the NRA’s youth programs.

“Who is the average Russian gun owner and a member of The Right to Bear Arms today? A middle-class man with a family and a business — someone who has something to lose and to protect,” she told a group of University of South Dakota students in April 2015, before ending with a Bible verse, according to an outline of her presentation posted on social media.

subbuzz17388153195955021.png In a video posted by the organizers of FreedomFest, a libertarian political event held in Las Vegas in July 2015, she suggested, with a slight grimace, that she wished to bring the US concept of freedom back home.

“I believe that freedom is very important, and the basis of freedom is, of course, gun rights and the economy and I would really like to know more and bring this knowledge to Russia,” she said.

A lot of them were brief connections. Kevin Boyd, a freelance writer, told BuzzFeed News he met Butina at FreedomFest, the same event at which she asked Trump a question about Russian sanctions. She followed Boyd on Twitter, and the two connected on Facebook.

“I spoke to her a few times at the event and it was mostly about gun rights in Russia,” he remembered. “We also discussed the upcoming US presidential election and she said she was a fan of Scott Walker, I believe.”

According to people who met her at these events, Butina’s formula was simple and effective – a friendly introduction immediately identifying herself as a fervent Russian gun rights advocate, emphasizing her desire to learn more about like-minded Americans, often asking to take a photo, and connect, connect, connect.

Richard Hohlt, a longtime Republican lobbyist, was quoted in a recent book saying that when he met Butina at CPAC in February 2015, he "was struck by how overly solicitous she was.”

"Could they be friends on Facebook? How could they stay in contact?" he recalled in Michael Isikoff and David Corn’s book “Russian Roulette,” which was published in March this year. "All I can think was, what the fuck is this about?"

Tall and with long red hair, Butina wasn’t exactly inconspicuous. She spoke in clear but Russian-accented English. To some political operatives — and apparently the FBI, which had monitored her activities for five years, prosecutors said — there was something odd about Butina’s presence at so many conservative events.

After Butina asked Trump that question about Russia at the town hall, his advisers reportedly watched the video and wondered how that had happened and where she had come from. Trump adviser Steve Bannon told Reince Priebus, who would eventually become Trump’s White House chief of staff, that it was odd that Trump had a fully developed answer to her question.

"Priebus agreed that there was something strange about Butina," Isikoff and Corn reported in their book. "Whenever there were events held by conservative groups, she was always around, he told Bannon."

Glenn Simpson, the former Wall Street Journal reporter whose research firm hired ex British spy Christopher Steele to investigate Trump’s links to the Kremlin, talked about Butina in a closed House Intelligence Committee hearing in November 2017, a transcript of which was later made public. He described her as “a big Trump fan in Russia” who “suddenly showed up here and started hanging around the Trump transition after the election and rented an apartment and enrolled herself at AU, which I assume gets you a visa.”

“I think she is suspicious,” he added, suggesting that she and Torshin were attempting “to infiltrate conservative organizations,” including the NRA.

“And the most absurd about this is that, you know, Vladimir Putin is not in favor of universal gun ownership for Russians. And so it's all a big charade, basically.”

Still, Butina has defenders in the United States. One of them is Volk, the Tennessee gun photographer who received an honorary membership from Butina and took glamour shots of her with the weapons in 2016.

“I consider the accusation to be quite silly, considering she's in opposition to the supposed Russian clients,” he told BuzzFeed News.

Dmitriy Kislov, who served as an executive director of Butina’s gun rights organization, setting up her media appearances in Russia and often tagged by her on social media, said he was “very surprised” when he heard that she’d been charged as a Russian agent.

“It is a serious mistake,” said Kislov, who told BuzzFeed News he last spoke to Butina 10 days before her arrest. “I know for sure that Maria did not work for the Russian government. The topic of civilian weapons is not popular among official representatives of the Russian government…(so) I very much doubt that our officials would be engaged in this issue.”

But federal prosecutors say they have emails that show she was taking instructions from Torshin. One exchange came on the night of Trump’s election victory when she posted on VK, the Russian equivalent of Facebook: “Well that's it. America gets a Republican Donald Trump for the next presidential term. Supporter of gun rights and restoration of relations with Russia. Congratulations to all!”

That same night, prosecutors said in their court filings, she messaged Torshin: “I’m going to sleep. It’s 3 a.m. here. I am ready for further orders.


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Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1  seeder  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

It's a TV script!

A very bad TV script... starring a bunch of Old-White-Guy idiots, and a not-even-beautiful Russian spy...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    6 years ago

Really, she's hardly a femme fatale

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    6 years ago

She sure did fuck a bunch of Old White Guys...  thumbs up

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  NORMAN-D @1.1.2    6 years ago

Don't you know it isn't racist if it is directed at whites?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.4  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  NORMAN-D @1.1.2    6 years ago
What the hell is your problem?

I have no problem. Do you?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2  Kavika     6 years ago

She sure did fuck a bunch of Old White Guys...  thumbs up

Without a doubt...This whole thing reads like a bad spy thriller. 

It's going to interesting to see where all the strings lead in this investigation.

Covfefe.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
2.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Kavika @2    6 years ago
Covfefe.

Exactly!!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3  Trout Giggles    6 years ago
“And the most absurd about this is that, you know, Vladimir Putin is not in favor of universal gun ownership for Russians. And so it's all a big charade, basically.”

Thinking 2

I just don't know what to think

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    6 years ago

How about this: the whole gun shtick was just a means for getting close to the Old White Guys who run so much right-wing wacko-land...

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    6 years ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2    6 years ago

I'll watch that movie when it comes on Showtime, Cinemax, or HBO

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.1    6 years ago

It's on demand now, or, at least it was, I watched it twice, it was pretty good.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @3.2.2    6 years ago

I'll look for it this weekend, thanks

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Participates
3.2.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.2.3    6 years ago

You're welcome Ms. Trout.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.2.6  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  NORMAN-D @3.2.5    6 years ago

It went straight to DVD? laughing dude

FOX’s “Red Sparrow” didn’t beat Black Panther, but the film did land in second-place after a $17M debut across 3,056 locations. “Red Sparrow” was directed by Francis Lawrence, the film stars Jennifer Lawrence, Joel Edgerton, and Matthias Schoenaerts.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
4  bbl-1    6 years ago

Butina.  Russian back channels.  Wonder if Prince, Kushner and Ivanka 'did' her too?

 
 
 
Enoch
Masters Quiet
5  Enoch    6 years ago

Are we to believe that a covert operative from an adversarial nation who regularly and since at least longer than 1917 interferes in the internal affairs of other nations isn't telling us the whole unvarnished truth?

Next thing you know advertisements for products and services will be framed as fake news.

All I can say is that the moment I hear any candidate or government official from any part of the political spectrum give a speech containing demonstrably false and/or materially misleading statements, I am so outta here! 

Enoch, Buying Shares in the Brooklyn Bridge and Time Share Arrangements on the Base of Mt. St. Helens for Long Term Investments.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
5.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Enoch @5    6 years ago
... isn't telling us the whole unvarnished truth?

Unthinkable.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Quiet
5.2  dave-2693993  replied to  Enoch @5    6 years ago

She couldn't possibly be a Russian spy.

She didn't go by the name Natasha and her handler wasn't known as Boris.

See, it's that simple.

 
 
 
Enoch
Masters Quiet
5.2.1  Enoch  replied to  dave-2693993 @5.2    6 years ago

LOL

 
 
 
PJ
Masters Quiet
8  PJ    6 years ago

Very interested and actually a brilliant strategy.  The Russians knew exactly which group would be easy to infiltrate.   Shove tits, guns and Christ in their face and they're hooked. 

What an embarrassment.  We have some really stupid horny people in this country.  Not Impressed   

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
Sophomore Participates
8.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  PJ @8    6 years ago

Here's the fun part of this, her American "boyfriend" lobbied to get K.T. McFarland in the White House as Deputy to Mike Flynn. Yeeep, nothing to see here.

 
 

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