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Draining Trump's Swamp: George Papadopoulos, Ex-Trump Adviser, Sentenced to time in Jail

  

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Via:  krishna  •  6 years ago  •  57 comments

Draining Trump's Swamp: George Papadopoulos, Ex-Trump Adviser, Sentenced to time in Jail
"The Australian government passed the information to the F.B.I., which used it as the basis to open an investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia"

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George Papadopoulos was sentenced on Friday after pleading guilty last year to lying to the F.B.I. and agreeing to cooperate in the Russia investigation.  Credit:  Tom Brenner for The New York Times.

Though most first-time offenders convicted of lying to federal authorities escape with probation, Judge Randolph D. Moss said that Mr. Papadopoulos deserved a stiffer sentence because he had impeded an investigation of “grave national importance.”

Prosecutors argued that Mr. Papadopoulos’s repeated lies during a January 2017 interview with investigators hampered the Russia investigation at a critical moment. In part because Mr. Papadopoulos misled the authorities, prosecutors said in court papers, they failed to arrest a London-based professor — suspected of being a Russian operative — before he left the United States in February 2017, never to return.

Mr. Papadopoulos discussed the Russian information during a meeting in a London bar in May 2016 with Alexander Downer, the top Australian diplomat in London. The Australian government passed the information to the F.B.I., which used it as the basis  to open an investigation  into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.


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Krishna
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1  seeder  Krishna    6 years ago
The Australian government passed the information to the F.B.I., which used it as the basis to open an investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia"
 
 
 
bbl-1
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1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Krishna @1    6 years ago

And...………...immediately after sentencing, Papadopoulos claims he 'can not recall' saying that to the Australian diplomat.  Weird, huh? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
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2  bbl-1    6 years ago

Speaking of draining the swamp.

In all lives, past, present and future, I always assumed 'The Swamp' consisted of people like Mnuchin, DeVos, Ross and all the rest.   

 
 
 
Split Personality
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3  Split Personality    6 years ago

14 days???

Pfffftttt!!!

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @3    6 years ago

no shit. maybe he gave Mueller something big to get such a vacation type sentence.

 
 
 
Silent_Hysteria
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3.1.1  Silent_Hysteria  replied to  devangelical @3.1    6 years ago

If there was a plea bargain it would have been known at sentencing and announced a deal had been struck and it would be up to the judge to accept it.  He was asking the judge for probation at the sentencing... which you wouldn't be doing if you had a deal.

Lying is all they got him on it would seem

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  Bob Nelson    6 years ago

How many Trumpsters have gone to jail, now?

Has anyone managed to keep count?

 
 
 
Rmando
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4.1  Rmando  replied to  Bob Nelson @4    6 years ago

That's what happens when there are politically motivated, overzealous prosecutors. You know, the opposite of what Hillary had.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Rmando @4.1    6 years ago

Yeah... It's strange...

Hillary has been investigated for forty years, but never indicted for anything... while the Trump Administration has been condemned over and over in just two short years.

The only possible conclusion is that the two are handled differently by the law. And the media. In all states.

That is s-o-o-o-o much more reasonable than to conclude that she isn't guilty while they are.

Yup!

 
 
 
Rmando
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4.1.2  Rmando  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.1    6 years ago

That's more reasonable than any other explanation for her getting an exoneration letter and an off the record interview before the investigation was over.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.3  Bob Nelson  replied to  Rmando @4.1.2    6 years ago

Hilarious...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @4.1    6 years ago

And there it is.... "but...HILLARY!!!!!!", seriously, let it go. I remember you saying you couldn't wait for her to lose the election so you wouldn't have to hear about her ever again...and every post, you have to bring her up.. But I will give you this much, Hillary and popadopalous have one thing in common.... Both we persecuted by republicans... LOL

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.5  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.4    6 years ago

You mustn't take away his "But Hillary".

He has nothing else.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.1.5    6 years ago
He has nothing else.

True. None of them do, it's all just rhetoric.... blame Hillary, blame Obama, blame the democrats, blame the moon, blame the media, blame the backed up toilet in the west wing... Anything, blame ANYTHING as long we don't point a finger at the rights Messiah, who lies 80+% of the time, cheats on his wives, golfs three times a week, (after spending 8 years bashing Obama for golfing too much) and has slammed just about every world leader that we are allies with but never even ONE TIME had a bad thing to say about Putin... Yet, we still have folks whining about Hillary... Sad and disgusting. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.1.7  Bob Nelson  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.6    6 years ago

Yup.

But look at it from a different perspective.

Such an immovable confidence... despite everything that we see in the real world... is fascinating!

We know there's no point in "arguing" anything with Trumpsters. As he said - the one true thing he has said - he could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone... and not lose a single supporter.

In exchange... trying to understand the peculiar madness of the Trumpsters... is fascinating!

 
 
 
Rmando
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5  Rmando    6 years ago

I suppose the conspiracy theorists out there are going to proclaim that THIS will be the end of Trumps presidency and all those moments before were just false alarms. I guess we're back to "Russia stole the election" again since "payout to porn stars" didn't pan out.

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.1  lennylynx  replied to  Rmando @5    6 years ago

Morning Armando, donut?  Here's the thing, my friend, Trump is utterly unfit for office and EVERYONE, including you, knows it.  I don't believe for one second that you actually think the concerns about Trump are simply wild conspiracy theories as you are trying to claim.  Why are you doing this?  How does defending this moronic lunatic help your cause?  Mike Pence isn't going to reverse the tax cut and he is every bit as eager to appoint Kavanaugh to the Supreme court as Trump is, probably even moreso.  Hell, a Christian extremist Supreme Court Justice is a wet dream for Pence.  Why are you attacking one of the very best of your own, a Republican HERO, Mueller, in defense of this totally incompetent asshole?  Why are you guys against removing Trump?  Seems to me that the biggest winners if we do remove him are YOU.

 
 
 
Rmando
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5.1.1  Rmando  replied to  lennylynx @5.1    6 years ago

Trump may not have the greatest personality in the world, but he is competent and he is getting things done. If he were removed for some reason the Dems would just move to impeach Pence next. If the left wants Trump gone they'll actually have to find real evidence.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1.2  Bob Nelson  replied to  lennylynx @5.1    6 years ago
Why are you doing this?

He is fighting for "the cause".

Don't ask what "the cause" is, because he doesn't know.

All he knows is that annoying libruls advances "the cause".

I might draw a few obvious conclusions... but they would be CoC violations.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @5.1.1    6 years ago
If the left wants Trump gone they'll actually have to find real evidence.

The right said the same thing about Flynn, Cohen, popadopalous, Gates and the other 109 people that have been indicted.. But you stick by those guns and keep insisting that it's everyone else that is guilty and trump knew nothing about any of it.. LOL Oh yea, if trump goes down? Pence will probably go down too since he ALSO knew that Flynn lied to the FBI.. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  lennylynx @5.1    6 years ago

But the right insists that this guy is a partisan hack and a liar and it's trump that never lies and has integrity.. THAT'S effing hilarious! image2.jpg

 
 
 
lennylynx
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5.1.5  lennylynx  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.4    6 years ago

It's incredible.  There is no finer American than Mueller, and Trump is the very worst this country has to offer.  Seeing the right wingers turn on Mueller is absolutely mind boggling.

 
 
 
Rmando
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5.1.6  Rmando  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.3    6 years ago

Gates and Manafort got in trouble for things they did long before Trump ran for president. Flynn and Popadopolous got caught in process crimes (hence the light sentence). Cohen was a crooked lawyer who was represented by an even more crooked lawyer who lied about what Cohen knew. All the rest are Russian trolls who will never be caught or tried. They're just empty indictments to puff up Muellers scalp count. Dems are no closer to having anything on Trump now than they did two years ago.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  Rmando @5.1.6    6 years ago
Cohen was a crooked lawyer

That's not what Rudy said. Rudy said he is a very honest and credible lawyer. And if he was so crooked, why did donny keep him on for 16 years? Weird. Unfortunate that he has tapes of donny admitting to campaign finance fraud. Oops. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.7    6 years ago
Unfortunate that he has tapes of donny admitting to campaign financ

If that were true, we would only have to wait until Trump was out of office to go on trial

 
 
 
MrFrost
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5.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.9    6 years ago

Just so we are clear...we are talking about the whole stotmy daniels thing...that trump clamied was all fake news...right? The problem is that donny said he didn't know about the payment....but the tape proves that he did. That's called a lie. Donny has told one lie after another about all of this...where will you move the goal posts when the next lie is exposed?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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5.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.10    6 years ago

So, let's assume everything you say is true and a jury somewhere finds the beleaguered Michael Cohen credible. That means that once Donald Trump is out of office he can be put on trial for some campaign finance violation, which recent history demonstrates are tough cases to prosecute. It dosen't remove Donald Trump from office. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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6  Kavika     6 years ago

I knew it, the DEEP STATE is responsible for the miscarriage of justice...14 days, OMG how horrible and it was a set up...The DEEP STATE lives among us..../s

 
 
 
Phoenyx13
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6.1  Phoenyx13  replied to  Kavika @6    6 years ago
I knew it, the DEEP STATE is responsible for the miscarriage of justice...14 days, OMG how horrible and it was a set up...The DEEP STATE lives among us..../s

that darn DEEP STATE is at it again ! except... no one can tell me who is in this "Deep State" or where monthly meetings are held or what their actual agenda is or anything else... but they swear it exists ! i did have one poster tell me that the "Deep State" was all about cattle and OSHA.... i guess that's a start ? cows and OSHA workers did it !

 
 
 
Kavika
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6.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Phoenyx13 @6.1    6 years ago
cows and OSHA workers did it !

LOL, perfect.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Phoenyx13 @6.1    6 years ago
cows and OSHA workers did it !

Let's not forget the Prairie Dogs, I mean they handle communication and, they have all those tunnels, what are they hiding in those tunnels?

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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6.1.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @6.1.2    6 years ago
what are they hiding in those tunnels?

I found out what's in the tunnels, I got pictures, I had to sneak them out though so, don't tell anyone,

armory.jpg The deep state armory.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7  Raven Wing    6 years ago

Yeah....he lied to the FBI and he " had impeded an investigation of “grave national importance.”  So.....he got a whole 14 days in jail.

What a hard deterrent to himself and others not to lie to the FBI, or other government agencies. Right? Makes No Sense  Face Palm

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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7.1  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Raven Wing @7    6 years ago
What a hard deterrent to himself and others not to lie to the FBI, or other government agencies. Right?

My understanding is that he received that sentence because he was a first time offender and, it was a white collar crime, after he gets out he will have probation to get through as well, I think it's one year of probation.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
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7.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Galen Marvin Ross @7.1    6 years ago

First time offender or not, the 14 days sentence is still a disgrace to justice in my book. Probation is also moot, as it does not really mean anything after the fact unless it is meant as a real punishment, which most of it is not, and likely will not be in this case. It is simply for display, as you will, tomake peopel think he had really been punished for him crime against his government.

Just my own OPINION. 

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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7.1.2  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Raven Wing @7.1.1    6 years ago

Hey, I think he should have gotten 15 years at Leavenworth myself.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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7.1.4  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to    6 years ago
For lying to the FBI?

No, for actively working with a hostile foreign government against us.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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7.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Raven Wing @7    6 years ago
he "had impeded an investigation of “grave national importance.

Ya, the Judge really bought that one

 
 
 
MrFrost
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8  MrFrost    6 years ago

The sentence isn't what is important here...what he lied ABOUT is what is important.

 
 

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