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A Perfect Tweetstorm: Senate And FBI Must Probe Whelan Hoax

  

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Via:  dulay  •  6 years ago  •  32 comments

A Perfect Tweetstorm: Senate And FBI Must Probe Whelan Hoax
Saying he “deeply” apologized for smearing the innocent man, a Maryland middle-school teacher, Whelan tried to erase the widely mocked Twitter thread under his name.

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And despite ethics expert Whelan’s empty vow to take “full responsibility” for the fabrication, a series of hard questions is unavoidable: How did this demented fable take shape? Who else was involved in concocting it? Where did Whelan obtain the name and yearbook photo of the man he attempted to frame? As an adviser to the White House nomination team, did Whelan discuss this plan with his longtime friend Kavanaugh? Did Whelan, a manager of previous GOP judicial nominations, share the scheme with White House counsel Don McGahn, who is overseeing Kavanaugh’s confirmation? Was Leonard Leo, the Federalist Society honco advising Trump on judicial nominations, in on the plan too?



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Dulay
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1  seeder  Dulay    6 years ago
Carefully set forth in a series of tweets that featured maps, floor plans, and yearbook photos, and fronted by Ed Whelan — a prominent Washington lawyer who heads the right-wing Ethics and Public Policy Center — the hoax blew up on Friday morning when Whelan abruptly admitted his “appalling and inexcusable mistake in judgment.”
 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dulay @1    6 years ago

Whelan should be investigated for any possible criminal activity that may have been related to his hoax. 

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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1.1.1  Cerenkov  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    6 years ago

Right after the ethics investigation against Feinstein for the partisan timing of her leaks.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    6 years ago
Ed Whelan

Another conspiracy theory?

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1.3  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    6 years ago
Another conspiracy theory?

Whelan didn't fabricate a 'conspiracy', he fabricated a character assassination in a disgusting attempt to infer that Ford's accusation was a case of mistaken identity and to protect Kavanaugh. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.1.3    6 years ago

First off, my reason for posting that to John was because that is what he always says when news of FBI wrongdoing is revealed.  Now to your point. Ya, it does seem that Whelan was trying to fight fire with a nuclear weapon. The sad part of all that was implicating an innocent person. The last thing we need right now.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1.5  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    6 years ago
First off, my reason for posting that to John was because that is what he always says when news of FBI wrongdoing is revealed.

So your comment was a back door dis against John. Got ya. Bad Form. 

The sad part of all that was implicating an innocent person.

'Sad'? Whelan is an operative, and pretty freaking high on the food chain in the GOP. With malice and forethought, he defamed an innocent man. Ya, 'sad'. 

Y'all see 'conspiracies' at every turn but seem to think that there is 'nothing to see here' with Whelan, who is working with the WH on the Kavanaugh confirmation. So y'all want us to believe that Whelan, who is eminently connected to the process, did this all on his own, yet we're suppose to accept that anyone and everyone with any connection to the process who opposes Trump is part to the 'deep state'. 

It drips with hypocrisy. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @1.1.5    6 years ago
So your comment was a back door dis against John.

My comment was fair and appropriate. Members of the FBI & DOJ have been ousted for lying & leaking. That is a lot more than a theory to be dismissed.


but seem to think that there is 'nothing to see here' with Whelan

I don't even know if it's worth responding. When I say "he implicated an innocent person" it can hardly be taken as me downplaying what he did. Somehow you make the claim anyway. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.1.7  Skrekk  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    6 years ago

Good to see that Whelan offered his resignation from the RWNJ  "Ethics and Public Policy Center", but too bad he was only given an indefinite leave of absence.

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I wonder if that's what Kavanaugh should do with his seat on the DC Circuit?    Regardless of what happens with his current confirmation vote you can be damn sure that at some point in the near future the FBI will be asked to investigate the allegations about attempted rape and Congress will consider impeaching him.   It's a real shame the GOP refuses to do the right thing now and have the FBI investigate.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.1.8  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.6    6 years ago
My comment was fair and appropriate.

It's still a dis. 

Members of the FBI & DOJ have been ousted for lying & leaking.

Who was ousted for leaking? 

That is a lot more than a theory to be dismissed.

Yet nowhere near enough to support the ridiculous 'deep state' bullshit. 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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1.2  Skrekk  replied to  Dulay @1    6 years ago
right-wing Ethics

Isn't that an oxymoron?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Skrekk @1.2    6 years ago

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Dulay
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1.2.2  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Skrekk @1.2    6 years ago
Ethics and Public Policy Center

By 'ethics' they mean religion. Lots of 'churchifying' on their website. Wonder what they say about 'bearing false witness'? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.2    6 years ago

You have been to their website, so what did you find out what they said about it?

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.4  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    6 years ago
You have been to their website, so what did you find out what they said about it?

"They" are Whelan. He is the President. Do you actually think that they would address it on the website. "They" are silent about this and are doing their best to pretend that there's 'nothing to see here'. 

BTW, imagine if the President of a 'liberal' think tank had done what Whelan did. Trump's tweets would be epic and it would be 'BREAKING NEWS' on Fox for days. Hell, HA would have posted multiple seeds about it by now.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.4    6 years ago

Seems as if you really wanted to know, you would go to the source instead of asking strangers on the internet who might not be at all familiar with the group.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.6  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    6 years ago
Seems as if you really wanted to know, you would go to the source instead of asking strangers on the internet who might not be at all familiar with the group.

WTF are you talking about Tex? What makes you think I didn't 'go to the source'? You're ASSUMING shit again. 

BTFW, I am a 'stranger on the internet' and YOU asked ME what their website said about it...

Pffft. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.7  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    6 years ago

BTW, comment on the TOPIC, not on ME. Only warning...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.8  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @1.2.6    6 years ago

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Skrekk
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1.3  Skrekk  replied to  Dulay @1    6 years ago

There are definitely some indications that the White House or other GOP operatives were involved since Whelan learned of Ford's identity before it was made public but shortly after the WH learned of it:

“On Sunday, Ford noticed that — even before her name became public — Whelan appeared to be seeking information about her.

That morning, Ford alerted an associate via email that Whelan had looked at her LinkedIn page, according to the email, which was reviewed by The Post. LinkedIn allows some subscribers to see who views their pages. Ford sent the email about 90 minutes after The Post shared her name with a White House spokesman and hours before her identity was revealed in   a story posted on its website .

A White House spokesman said Friday that neither Kavanaugh nor anyone in the White House gave Ford’s name to Whelan before it was disclosed by The Post. Whelan did not respond to a request for comment on how he first learned of Ford’s identity.

Kavanaugh and his allies have privately discussed mounting a defense that would not question whether an incident involving Ford happened, but instead would raise doubts that the attacker was Kavanaugh, The Post   reported   Thursday.

In the wake of Ford’s allegation, Kavanaugh told White House officials and Republicans on Capitol Hill that it was potentially a case of mistaken identity, according to people who heard his comments or were familiar with the discussions. Kavanaugh did not respond to requests for comment.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    6 years ago

There was a Republican ex House member named David Jolley on a tv show last night. To sum up what he said it is that Kavanaugh should withdraw his name from consideration for the seat on the Supreme Court. 

Even if he gets passed through onto the court by the Republicans, his reputation is tainted beyond help. 

Before Ford came forward many people were saying Kavanaugh should be denied the seat because of his lying to the committee and the refusal of the Republicans to provide documents from his time at the Bush white house. 

Now we add to that Ford's accusation, and credible information that Kavanaugh was around and likely participated in the sorts of "parties" that Ford is describing, among the privileged teenagers at private prep schools in the 1980's. Kavanaugh was a drunk, and hung in a sexually promiscuous and perhaps sexually aggressive crowd. 

Does that make him surely guilty of attempted rape? Not at all, but it does mean he will have the cloud over him for the rest of his life.  Given that truth, he needs to decline the nomination to the Supreme Court. His place there will be forever tarnished by questions about his past.  Shit happens.  If Trump didnt need someone like Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court to argue that Trump is above the law, maybe common sense would have prevailed and Kavanaugh not been nominated. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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2.1  Rmando  replied to  JohnRussell @2    6 years ago

The only reputations that have been stained are those of senators like Feinstein, who most Republicans at least had more respect for than the new crop of self admitted socialists and race baiters. She has made a mockery of this whole confirmation. 

If Kavanaugh is confirmed the only people who will believe he is tainted are left wing partisans and hacks- the same group that has been moaning about Thomas on the court for years.

There is no evidence except hear say and character assassination. Democrats have disgraced themselves.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.1  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @2.1    6 years ago

The seed isn't about Feinstein or Democrats. Address the topic. 

There is no evidence except hear say and character assassination.

Fabricated and perpetrated by the President of Ethics and Public Policy Center, Ed Whelan, who is advising the WH on the Kavanaugh confirmation. 

Democrats have disgraced themselves.

Whelan is a Republican. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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2.1.2  Rmando  replied to  Dulay @2.1.1    6 years ago

Whelan put out a half baked conspiracy theory that he apologized for and withdrew. Last I checked that is not a criminal act. The only person who has any claims of damage is the guy who looked like Kavanaugh, and that would be a matter for civil courts. The Senate and FBI have bette things to do than chase down every conspiracy theory on Twitter.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.3  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @2.1.2    6 years ago
Whelan put out a half baked conspiracy theory that he apologized for and withdrew.

Right because y'all immediately stop gnawing on bones after apologies are made. /s

BTFW, that 'half baked conspiracy' was covered by Fox 'News' and other RW media outlets. 

Last I checked that is not a criminal act.

Yet it SHOULD preclude him from being included on a WH team of ANY kind. 

The only person who has any claims of damage is the guy who looked like Kavanaugh, and that would be a matter for civil courts.

Which I hope he pursues with a defamation case. 

The Senate and FBI have bette things to do than chase down every conspiracy theory on Twitter.

Someone should inform Trump. 

 
 
 
Rmando
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2.1.4  Rmando  replied to  Dulay @2.1.3    6 years ago

Actually it's the left that says apologies should be good enough and the matter closed- when it's one of theirs.

And if pushing conspiracy theories is good enough to lose a WH job (which Whelan might not even care about) then Susan Rice should've been gone the next day. 

I'm just curious why you are so concerned about the career of a National Review writer. I don't realize you were such an avid reader of theirs.

 
 
 
Dulay
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2.1.5  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Rmando @2.1.4    6 years ago
Actually it's the left that says apologies should be good enough and the matter closed- when it's one of theirs.

Really? Lind to examples? 

And if pushing conspiracy theories is good enough to lose a WH job (which Whelan might not even care about) then Susan Rice should've been gone the next day. 

What 'conspiracy theory' was that? 

I'm just curious why you are so concerned about the career of a National Review writer. 

WTF are you talking about? 

I don't realize you were such an avid reader of theirs.

Your not realizing something is no surprise to me... 

 
 
 
Skrekk
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3  Skrekk    6 years ago

In semi-related news it seems that the guy helping to coordinate the GOP's response to the allegations against Kavanaugh was fired from a previous job due to sexual harassment.    He's now "resigned" from both his job as the communications aid to the judiciary committee and from the private sector PR job from which he had been on a leave of absence while serving the committee.

I wonder if there are any Republicans who aren't misogynistic creeps?

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1  seeder  Dulay  replied to  Skrekk @3    6 years ago

It does seem like they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to bring all hands on deck for this confirmation. 

BTW, I know a couple of Republicans that are awesome guys. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Skrekk @3    6 years ago

You seem to be wondering about something that is obvious to most people.

Of course there are Republicans who aren't misogynistic creeps, just like there are intelligent, honest Democrats.

 
 
 
Galen Marvin Ross
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3.3  Galen Marvin Ross  replied to  Skrekk @3    6 years ago
I wonder if there are any Republicans who aren't misogynistic creeps?

My Dad I think was one of the last, yes, he had his problems, IMO, but, he would have been yelling from the rooftops on this and, calling for Kavanaugh to step down.

 
 
 
Rmando
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4  Rmando    6 years ago

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