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Republicans Are the Real Extremists

  

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Via:  bob-nelson  •  5 years ago  •  13 comments

Republicans Are the Real Extremists
Conspiracy theorists and enemies of democracy, oh my.

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original All of Donald Trump’s major policies have failed substantively, politically, or both. His one big legislative achievement, the 2017 tax cut, remains unpopular . His attacks on Obamacare have only enhanced public approval of the program. His fearmongering has cemented majority opposition to his proposed border wall.

But while today’s G.O.P. can’t do policy, it commands a powerful propaganda machine. And this machine is now dedicated to a strategy of portraying Democrats as extremists . It might work — but it shouldn’t, because Democrats aren’t extremists, but Republicans are.

Republicans have demonized two new Democratic members of Congress, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, left, and Ilhan Omar. Credit Credit Saul Loeb/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

The attack on Democrats has largely involved demonizing two new members of Congress, Representative Ilhan Omar and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Omar is Muslim, and the usual suspects have gone all-out in using an out-of-context quotation to portray her, completely falsely, as sympathetic to terrorists. AOC, who calls herself a democratic socialist — although she’s really just a social democrat — has been the subject of obsessive coverage on the right. Over a six-week period, Fox News and Fox Business mentioned her more than 3,000 times , invariably portraying her as ignorant, radical, or both.

It’s surely not an accident that these two principal targets are both women of color; there’s a sense in which supposed concerns about extremism are just a cover for sexism and white nationalism. But it’s still worth pointing out that while both Omar and AOC are on the left of the Democratic Party, neither is staking out policy positions that are extreme compared with either expert views or public opinion.

Take AOC’s famous advocacy of a 70 percent tax rate on very high incomes. Economists who knew anything about public finance immediately recognized that number as coming from a widely cited paper by Peter Diamond and Emmanuel Saez, two of the field’s leading figures. You don’t have to agree with their analysis to recognize that AOC, far from showing her ignorance, was actually drawing on solid research.

Nor does the public find the idea outrageous. An overwhelming majority believe that people with high incomes pay too little in taxes, and polls show wide support for AOC’s proposal.

Is echoing leading experts and matching popular opinion extremist? Actually, what AOC’s position on the Democratic left tells us is that the party as a whole is, if anything, to the right of the general public on major policy issues.

Republicans, on the other hand, really are extremists. As Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein put it in 2012 — long before the rise of Trump — the modern G.O.P. is “ideologically extreme” and uninterested in “facts, evidence, and science.” For example, major figures in the party routinely dismiss global warming as a hoax perpetrated by a vast global conspiracy.

Or consider the views of Stephen Moore, who Trump is trying to put on the board of the Federal Reserve.

What you need to know about Moore, aside from his inability to get facts right , is that, unlike Herman Cain, Trump’s other Fed pick, he’s very much a part of the right-wing establishment. He’s a former editorial writer for The Wall Street Journal, a former chief economist at the Heritage Foundation, a fixture at conferences like FreedomFest. Given this background, it may not be surprising that he’s a firm believer in failed economic doctrines, especially the insistence that tax cuts for the wealthy have magical effects.

What’s coming out only now, however, is the extent of Moore’s political extremism. Many of his past statements — like his assertion that “ capitalism is a lot more important than democracy ” — sound like a liberal caricature of conservatism. But it’s not a caricature; Moore shows us what the right actually thinks.

I mentioned that an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the rich pay too little in taxes. Moore, on the other hand, wants to eliminate income taxes and replace them with sales taxes, which would dramatically shift the tax burden away from the rich and onto the middle class. And he has called the 16th Amendment, which created the federal income tax, “the most evil act that has passed in 100 years.”

He also wants to privatize Social Security, a program that is both hugely popular and the bedrock of retirement security for American workers. Moore would convert it into a 401(k)-type system. He is also fiercely hostile to Medicaid, which covers 65 million Americans .

Finally, Moore has proposed, in advance, a purge of the institution Trump wants him to join, calling for firing “hundreds” of Federal Reserve economists “who are worthless.” These would, presumably, be the economists who considered low interest rates and monetary expansion valuable tools in fighting the Great Recession, at the same time Moore was predicting that these policies would send inflation soaring . Guess who was right.

So even if you cherry-pick left-leaning Democrats, a look at their actual positions shows them to be not at all extreme. At the same time, pillars of the right-wing establishment hold views that are utterly at odds with both evidence and public opinion. Republicans are the real extremists.

Paul Krugman has been an Opinion columnist since 2000 and is also a Distinguished Professor at the City University of New York Graduate Center. He won the 2008 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his work on international trade and economic geography.



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Bob Nelson
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1  seeder  Bob Nelson    5 years ago
So even if you cherry-pick left-leaning Democrats, a look at their actual positions shows them to be not at all extreme. At the same time, pillars of the right-wing establishment hold views that are utterly at odds with both evidence and public opinion. Republicans are the real extremists.

Krugman could be talking about NewsTalkers. Don't take my word for it... just look at NT's Front Page.

Look at NT seeds. We have a couple of Team Red members who routinely post several seeds every day. They are staunch supporters of Donald Trump. Among the dozens of seeds they put up every month, there is almost nothing on conservative policy. There is almost nothing about conservative personalities or leaders. There is almost nothing about conservatism (or "populism", if you prefer that label).

What they do post is a never-ending succession of hit-pieces against non-conservatives. Typically, these seeds have an inflammatory title, and a very uncomplimentary photo of their target.

Today, we have:
 - Qanta Ahmed: Ilhan Omar is a disgrace to Islam and doesn’t represent my Muslim religion
 - Pelosi appears to take new jab at Ocasio-Cortez, says ‘a glass of water’ with a ‘D’ could win their districts
 - At Fox Town Hall, Bernie Sanders Still Can’t Explain How He’s Paying For ‘Medicare For All’
 - Trump isn’t the biggest threat to the Constitution. Democrats are.

There are no seeds about conservative people, policy, ideas, ... anything...

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2  bbl-1    5 years ago

Conservatism does not need ideas.  Its strength is fear and division.

Example:  Sanders can not explain how he will pay for his health care plan.

                Conservatives never explain anything about their health care plan.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2.1  luther28  replied to  bbl-1 @2    5 years ago
Conservatives never explain anything about their health care plan.

Conservatives?

I would be willing to wager that many of todays so called Conservatives, would not know one if bitten on the arse by one. William F. Buckley is rolling in his grave most likely.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  luther28 @2.1    5 years ago

I respected W.F. Buckley.  He was the last true conservative.  Conservatism is dead.  Replaced by selfish idiocy.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2.1.2  luther28  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.1    5 years ago

You know, I really cannot come up with one either. Oh well, gone the way of the Dodo I suppose.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Professor Quiet
2.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  luther28 @2.1    5 years ago
Conservatives? I would be willing to wager that many of todays so called Conservatives, would not know one if bitten on the arse by one. William F. Buckley is rolling in his grave most likely.

That's a fair point, actually.

Ronald Reagan would similarly dismayed.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  bbl-1 @2    5 years ago
Conservatives never explain anything about their health care plan.

I can explain it to you.  If you're not healthy they don't care.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    5 years ago

Yowzers.  I think you nailed it.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  seeder  Bob Nelson    5 years ago

The silence from Team Red is thunderous!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Bob Nelson @3    5 years ago

That's to be expected when such ignorant tripe is offered for consumption

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
3.1.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    5 years ago

But you can't argue with the content, can you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
3.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Bob Nelson @3.1.1    5 years ago

Of course not, he just offers up his own tripe

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  seeder  Bob Nelson    5 years ago

The continued silence of Team Red is... almost funny. They truly have nothing to say...

 
 

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