Don't tell us to halt the violence, tell the Americans, Afghan Taliban say

Via:  bob-nelson  •  last year  •  3 comments

Don't tell us to halt the violence, tell the Americans, Afghan Taliban say
The U.S. special peace envoy for Afghanistan should stop calling on Taliban militants to lay down their arms and tell the United States to end the use of force instead, the Taliban said on Friday.

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original Zalmay Khalilzad, an Afghan-born U.S. diplomat , entered a sixth round of talks with the hardline Islamist group in Qatar this week in a bid to end America’s longest war.

“In our opening session, I underscored to the Talibs that the Afghan people, who are their brothers & sisters, want this war to end,” Khalilzad said in a tweet.

“It is time to put down arms, stop the violence, & embrace peace.”

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid issued a series of sharp tweets in response.

“@US4AfghanPeace (Khalilzad’s twitter handle) should forget about the idea of us putting down our arms,” he said.

“Instead of such fantasies, he should drive the idea home (to the U.S.) about ending the use of force and incurring further human and financial losses for the decaying Kabul administration.”

He said the United States must stop repeating failed strategies while expecting different outcomes.

“It would be better if @US4AfghanPeace musters the courage to call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool & accept the current realities.”

Intense fighting continues across the country with the Taliban controlling or influencing more territory than at any point since their ouster at the hands of U.S.-led troops following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The United States has about 14,000 troops in Afghanistan as part of a NATO-led mission, known as Resolute Support, that is training and assisting Afghan security forces in their battle against Taliban fighters and extremist groups such as Islamic State and al Qaeda.

After five rounds of talks, Khalilzad reported some progress towards an accord on withdrawing U.S. troops and on how the Taliban would prevent extremists from using Afghanistan to launch attacks.

The Taliban insist that talks cannot move ahead until foreign forces leave.

“Peace will require that we find common ground on four inter-connected issues: troop withdrawal, counter-terrorism assurances, intra-Afghan dialogue & negotiations, and reduction in the violence leading to a comprehensive ceasefire,” Khalilzad said in his tweet.

“Nothing will be final until we agree on all 4 issues.”


In Kabul, President Ashraf Ghani renewed his appeal to hold direct talks with the Taliban and called for an agreement on a ceasefire.

“The Afghan government is ready to announce a ceasefire if the Taliban show readiness in this regard,” he said at the closing ceremony of a Loya Jirga (grand assembly) called to set possible conditions for peace talks.

“Let us prove that only Western countries cannot solve this conflict,” he said. “There is also human civilization here.”

The Taliban, seeking to restore strict Islamic rule, refuse to talk to the Afghan government which they dismiss as a U.S. puppet.

They also rejected an invitation to the Loya Jirga, attended by 3,200 religious leaders, politicians and representatives from across the country, meeting under a giant white tent in Kabul.

There are no images in he article. I have included one image of a modern Taliban (Photo credit: Afghan Islamic Press/Getty Images/Foreign Policy)from Foreign Policy , and one of Commandant Massoud, a mujahidin whom the CIA armed against the Soviets in the 1980s (credit:


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Bob Nelson
1  seeder  Bob Nelson    last year

Afghan warlords have been defeating foreign invasions since Alexander the Great. We taught them modern warfare, so that they could defeat the Soviets.

What could possibly go wrong?

1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Bob Nelson @1    last year

The Taliban are not warlords.

The warlords fought against the Taliban, when the Taliban were in control of the country.  They are still fighting them today.

Unfortunately the warlords are all individuals, and want little or nothing to do with current government in Kabul.

We did teach the Taliban and Al Qaeda how to defeat the Soviet Union- but they are still not part of the warlord faction.

There is no "good" or "right" side to back in Afghanistan. The quicker we are out there and get to search and destroy only missions using drones, or special forces the better.

Bob Nelson
1.1.1  seeder  Bob Nelson  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1    last year

There have been warlords in Afghanistan since forever. And since forever, they have "borrowed" from foreigners whatever might give them an advantage.

Nowadays, that means being more or less religiously orthodox and militant. The distinctions among Taliban, mujaheedin, warlord, ... are vague at best, and the men in question are willing and able to slide from one to another.

Right now, it appears that everyone is jockeying for a seat at the table. I'd guess there's even hassling over who will be next to whom.


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