Neither party is perfect, but Republicans in Congress have been drifting towards political extremism since long before Trump, and they’re making it impossible for Congress to work the way it’s supposed to.
It's too bad so many republicans have been fooled by trump and his minions. It's amazing how those on the right with even average intellectual have discarded christianity and the teachings of Christ.
Well, by their actions over the years, it would appear that those on the left with even average intelligence have totally mocked and ridiculed those people of faith and ignored the teachings of Christ, regardless of party affiliation.
To keep up with this fiction that we are being fooled by Trump is simply stupid. 62 million people did not have a simultaneous collective mental breakdown and pulled the wrong lever. They knew long beforehand that HRC was an awful person and a horrible candidate and would be a terrible president.
It's too bad that so many democrats are being led astray by their so called leaders who appear to not have a plan or a clue about how to win the next elections. Simply being "against Trump" won't cut it. The American people want to know what you and your liberal leaders are for instead of what you are against.
it would appear that those on the left with even average intelligence have totally mocked and ridiculed those people of faith and ignored the teachings of Christ, regardless of party affiliation
It only appears that way to people with really good imaginations. The fact is nearly 80% of Democrats are Christians and rely on their faith daily. Just because they haven't embraced the Golden Calf in the oval office doesn't mean they're not real Christians. In fact, I would say it's just the opposite. Bowing down to this false idol as so many of faux-faith have done just proves what kind of person they truly are.
Ah yes, an opinion straight from the University of Your Gut. I'm sure the education you collect there is at least as good as the one received at Trump U.
If you add up Catholic, Mormon, Protestant, JW, evangelical and Orthodox Christian groups you get 78% (just under 80% as I said). Those are all the "Christian" groups identified in the Pew poll. In the historically black Protestant category they are at 80% by themselves. 80% of black Democrats profess to be Protestants.
You do realize that republicans no longer can claim to be Christian and have given up any values or morals they have had and are now worshiping a person is anti Christian
Again what does freedom mean to you and how do you figure you are a warrior
For Greg & bugsy....the picture DO used for the article is a popular but unattributed meme that takes a bit of license with the facts by adding the indictments and convictions from real charts.
Comparing scandals by party
Just glancing at the chart above, it’s pretty clear which administrations are the most criminal, but let’s roll up the data anyway.
Executive Branch Criminal Activities by Party Since 1968
Administration
Total Years
in Office
Criminal
Indictments
Criminal
Convictions
Prison
Sentences
Democratic
20
3
1
1
Republican
28
120
89
34
Some might try to argue that this unfairly penalizes Republican administrations because GOP administrations held office for eight more years than Democratic administrations during this time period. The huge gap between the numbers shows how ridiculous that is, but even so, let’s get the averages per year of combined administrations:
Admittedly, the meme adds the indictments and convictions together in this chart to get the 209 vs 4 figures, which is unfair.
Still, 120 to 3 is extremely lopsided by any measure, as is 89 convictions to 1.
Average Executive Branch Criminal Actions by Year Since 1968
Administration
Average #
Indictments
Per Year
Average #
Convictions
Per Year
Average #
Imprisonments
Per Year
Democratic
0.15
0.05
0.05
Republican
4.29
3.18
1.21
Even when we standardize it by getting annual averages, GOP administrations still have 29 times more indictments, 64 times more convictions, and 24 times more prison sentences.
This chart, using the same math would indicate the number should be 120 to 4 indictments with 89(R) convictions to 1(D)
Executive Branch Criminal Activities by Presidential Administration
Interesting data. Especially considering all the zeros in the Obama column. Makes one wonder how that happened when he had; numerous cabinet members plead the 5th, numerous cabinet member's were held in contempt of congress, numerous cabinet members admitted to corruption and otherwise scandalous behavior, etc, etc.
Yep but none of them got indicted. Now that is a very interesting statistic. A downright "swampy" statistic actually.
None were indicted because they couldn't find anything. All of those fake conspiracy theories floating out there in gop fantasyland were nothing. Republicans controlled it all and had endless investigations that got nothing. Either they are lying to you (yes they are) or really really stupid (yes they are).
Well, memory is a tricky thing it seems. It leads to questionable innuendo.
Not only were they not indicted but besides Loretta Lynch, none were Cabinet members and 2 actually got their jobs back.
9 Times Obama Administration Officials 'Plead The Fifth' In High Profile Scandals
Jeff Neely, the former Pacific Rim regional commissioner for the General Services Administration, pled the fifth on April 16, 2012 when Congress asked him to testify about overly-lavish spending on GSA conferences. He was eventually sentenced to prison for fraud anyway.
John Beale, a former official at the EPA, pled the fifth on October 1, 2013 when Congress probed into Beale's theft of nearly $900,000 worth of salaries and bonuses from his own agency.
John Sepulveda, a former VA official, pled the fifth on October 30, 2013 after Congress subpoenaed him to testify as to why the department spent $6 million on conferences in Florida.
Diana Rubens and Kimberly Graves, two senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs, each pled the fifth before Congress on November 2, 2015 when asked to testify about $400,000 they had allegedly milked out of a VA relocation expense program. They were eventually given back their jobs.
Greg Roseman, a deputy director of the IRS, pled the fifth on June 26, 2013, after Congress asked him to testify about why the largest contract in IRS history was awarded to a close friend of his.
Patrick Cunningham, chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona, pled the fifth when Congress asked him to testify about Operation Fast and Furious, which trafficked more than 2,000 guns along the U.S.-Mexico border.
Lois Lerner, an IRS director in charge of tax-exemptions, pled the fifth numerous times during Congress' investigation into the IRS' targeting of conservative groups.
Susan Rice, United States National Security Advisor from 2013 to 2017 accused of having unmasked American citizens but even more damning is the timing.
Loretta Lynch, Attorney General Loretta Lynch invoked her Fifth Amendment protection not to incriminate herself over the Obama administration's transfer of money to Iran
Not only that, but;
Taking the Fifth: A congressional tradition
During President Obama's administration, the Fifth Amendment has been cited during probes of the Solyndra energy loan and the General Services Administration, just as it was in congressional investigations during the presidencies of George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
The use — and misuse — of the Fifth Amendment was especially prevalent during the investigations of alleged communists during the early 1950s. Sen. Joseph McCarthy, R-Wis., and his supporters denounced those who declined to testify as "Fifth Amendment communists."
No need to. You know who they are and what they did and yet you chose not to include them. A bit disingenuous don't you think?
Yeah, i know you think you got me because they didn't plead the fifth directly but they instead pussied out and had high ranking officials in their departments do it for them. They had no problem throwing people in their departments under the bus to cover their tracks did they? Making them arguably the "swampiest" among your list.
If you think that was an insult, it begs the question 'what happens when a known pathological liar lies about something it gets repeated by others who either believe it or knowingly repeat said lies'. I still have no idea what or who you are referring to in your comment about who was being left off the list and you haven't done anything to clear it up. Republicans have tried to make up scandals against Obama for years now and most of them were big fat nothings. Maybe all of them. So how are we supposed to know what you allude to?
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out the conservatives here. Getting the vapors over things they have no problem saying to others. I've heard it all here and it seems like there is a newfound sensitivity to being attached to Trumps lies and attempts to hold himself above the law. The problem is, that is what one gets when they support and promote that person. On one had we hear how Trump supporters like 'telling it like it is' (more like what they want to hear) and not being 'politically correct', coining the term 'snowflake', etc. Now suddenly they don't like it? Or only they can do it? Trump represents all those negative things, racism, lying, cheating, ignorance, narcissism, trying to be above the law. His supporters can't be surprised to be linked to those. I do not mean that to be a personal insult, it is the price for all who support Trump and don't care how low he goes, they follow and defend him anyway, no matter how egregious. Enabling Trump is being part of the problem. Stand up to his lies and bullshit or be part of it. Have the same standards for Trump as Obama or Clinton or any other democrat. The gop has gotten so stuck with Trump they can't wash off the stench.
If you think that was an insult, it begs the question 'what happens when a known pathological liar lies about something it gets repeated by others who either believe it or knowingly repeat said lies'.
No it doesn't but it does beg the question why some folks feel to the need to insult people they simply disagree with. [deleted]
I still have no idea what or who you are referring to in your comment about who was being left off the list and you haven't done anything to clear it up. Republicans have tried to make up scandals against Obama for years now and most of them were big fat nothings. Maybe all of them. So how are we supposed to know what you allude to?
That's almost funny .... so you have no idea who Eric Holder is? Perhaps you could be excused for not knowing his minion Patrick Cunningham but he was already included. The one who fell on his sword for Holder by pleading the 5th but you not including Holder is rich. It really is. Now here is where you insert your pithy comment as to why you didn't include Holder. Is there one more veiled insult left there on the clipboard? More than one i'm sure .... so feel free to pick one or twelve.
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out the conservatives here.
I have no such problems with many of the liberals here. [deleted]
That's almost funny .... so you have no idea who Eric Holder is? Perhaps you could be excused for not knowing his minion Patrick Cunningham. The one who fell on his sword for Holder by pleading the 5th but you not including Holder is rich. It really is. Now here is where you insert your pithy comment as to why you didn't include Holder.
Patrick Cunningham was #6 on the list above, Holder never used the 5th.
The following Thursday Eric Holder testified, danced around like a lawyer, but did not actually plead the 5th. Republicans in Congress demanded documents about Fast & Furious that they believed existed. Regardless of whether or not the documents existed, Holder let the deadline pass and became the first Cabinet level member to be held in contempt by Congress.
That's almost funny .... so you have no idea who Eric Holder is? Perhaps you could be excused for not knowing his minion Patrick Cunningham (but he was already included.) The one who fell on his sword for Holder by pleading the 5th but you not including Holder is rich. It really is. Now here is where you insert your pithy comment as to why you didn't include Holder.
If you are going to quote me, please use the entire quote and not just the parts that support the comment you want to make. Entire quote added in bold above.
Very unmoderator-like of you SP
That said, i was very clear of the reasons Holder should have been included and more than one time. Read it again.
Where did you get that? I asked WHO you were talking about. I think you are mixing a couple of our comments up.
This might disappoint you, but I don't hate anybody. I vehemently disagree with some things and am passionate about others. The truth being one of them. Trumps endless lies and gop silence can't be ignored. The more damage conservatives think they will suffer being glued to Trump, the more 'outraged' they are by the linkage. But since the gop is now the Trump Party, they just can't get away from him. Seeing some real discomfort from republicans about that these days.
If you are going to quote me, please use the entire quote and not just the parts that support the comment you want to make. Entire quote added in bold above.
I quoted the comment as it was originally posted - without modification.
If you modified it within the 10 minute limit to change it, oh well, my bad. As one member of NT to another good for you
Very unmoderator-like of you SP
Moderators get to participate on NT too, in black ink. Perhaps you have noticed ( but not complained ) when other moderators publish article after article critical of Democrats and Independents,
but never Republicans? Please, spare me your false indignation. We ar both too old for it.
In black ink, I get to say, go fuck yourself and take the CoC consequences without arguing the point for hours or days. Get over yourself.
That said, I was very clear of the reasons Holder should have been included and more than one time. Read it again.
Bull Shit. No, you read it again, without the little voice in your head. You never mentioned Holder by name until comment 1.1.22.
Like I said elsewhere, you accuse others of being biased and unfair because they have a partisan stick up their ass for a few members on NT
while being unable to recognize the same behavior in your self.
The properly cited list was people confirmed to have used the 5th while serving the country during the Obama Administration as requested.
You obviously have a bone to pick with Holder, that just doesn't count when people tabulate which Obama officials took the 5th, while serving that Administration.
I guess we are all just not in tune with your inner anger about past administrations.
I quoted the comment as it was originally posted - without modification.If you modified it within the 10 minute limit to change it, oh well, my bad. As one member of NT to another good for you
Pretty sure i included it originally, as that was my thought process but i honestly don't recall. i might have left it out and modified for clarity. It was not intentional if i did nor was my comment that followed. Not how i roll.
Moderators get to participate on NT too, in black ink.
Where did i ever say or infer that you didn't so not sure why you bring that up
Perhaps you have noticed ( but not complained ) when other moderators publish article after article critical of Democrats and Independents,but never Republicans? Please, spare me your false indignation. We ar both too old for it.
My complaint was for what i thought was an intentionally misleading (edited) quote. I take you at your word that you didn't do that. I would call anyone here for the same thing but especially moderators. You should be doing that more righteous than just regular members. Otherwise you lose credibility. And please, drop that chip off your shoulder. I never said or even inferred that "Republicans" don't do the same thing. And its funny how your chip drove you right to saying that. Again, i agree. You're too old to have that chip on your shoulders.
In black ink, I get to say, go fuck yourself and take the CoC consequences without arguing the point for hours or days. Get over yourself.
Again, i'm not the one who needs to be getting over myself. See above.
Bull Shit. No, you read it again, without the little voice in your head.
Bulllshit right back at you. You're not that stupid. Read the thread again. Oh and nice thinly veiled insult. SOSDD
Like I said elsewhere, you accuse others of being biased and unfair because they have a partisan stick up their ass for a few members on NTwhile being unable to recognize the same behavior in your self.
Then feel free to call me on it then and we can deal with it. I call people on their biased BS here all the time. You don't like it. Considering your usual proclivities here I get that. Good luck trying to stop it though since i call em like i see em. You'll give it the old college try like usual but you'll never completely succeed the way the rules are here. Over on previous blogs, that are now defunct, you could have gotten away with that. Here, not so much.
The properly cited list was people confirmed to have used the 5th while serving the country during the Obama Administration as requested.You obviously have a bone to pick with Holder, that just doesn't count when people tabulate which Obama officials took the 5th, while serving that Administration.
True. As previously noted Holder wasn't man enough to plead the fifth for himself so he assigned a minion to do it for him. Hard to respect a man who would throw another under the bus to protect himself. Holder is a pussy, a pure pussy of man.
I guess we are all just not in tune with your inner anger about past administrations.
How could you be. All y'all are too busy working overtime hating on everything Trump. Chronic butt-hurt if you will and it's not getting any better.
I can be sympathetic.peace...
One way we'll ever get peace in your mind. And that would be for me to agree with you ..... all the time. I suspect a big difference difference between you and i is that i hold no hate in my heart for people who hold different views than i. Too many on the left can't say that. I suspect you are one of them no matter what you say here.
How could you be. All y'all are too busy working overtime hating on everything Trump. Chronic butt-hurt if you will and it's not getting any better.
You have me confused with someone else apparently.
suspect a big difference difference between you and i is that i hold no hate in my heart for people who hold different views than i. Too many on the left can't say that. I suspect you are one of them no matter what you say here.
I will respectfully disagree. Your comment history here and there tells me otherwise, but you may suspect or assume what you wish.
That's not what was said, there are those 4 criminal convictions. It's just Republicans have had 209. It's a comparison that you seem not to like. Does that make it untrue? Not at all, which is why you didn't even attempt to refute it with anything more than empty rhetoric.
Literally from the clip "The Democratic party, while no paragon". It's refuting in plain language the defense you posit. No one is claiming the left are pure as the newfallen snow, they just happen to be pointing out how yellow the snow happens to be across the aisle and are sadden as they watch 40% of the nation happily eat it day after day.
Right, that's what Republicans have been saying for years yet the only ones who are actually proved to have committed crimes all turned up in Trumps camp or are Republican congressmen. But who knows, maybe they'll figure out a way to criminalize having opinions and string up Strzok, but I wouldn't recommend holding your breath for it.
Right, that's what Republicans have been saying for years
im not republican but have been saying that for about 2 yrs.
simply because that is how long they have been investigating.
all turned up in Trumps camp
obamas lawyer is in trumps camp? that is interesting... LOL
the left has roughly a month, maybe less, before all hell breaks loose. but have no fear, before all is said and done there will be a few republicans found among the traitors on the left. and we will convict them all equally and then dispose of them properly.
Yes, but apparently he's a "leftist" as are any Republicans who stand up for the rule of law and reject this wanna-be imperial President, at least according to Trump and most of his sycophants.
No one said that and you are just trying to show you didn't bother with video and would rather be off topic instead of actually having comments that were about video.
As if he watched it. They aren't going to waste the time learning something that is counter to their already held beliefs. They have already circled the wagons and can do nothing but furiously rage at the wold beyond them that keeps moving forward while they're seemingly forever stuck in a miserable past. All they can do is gnash their teeth and hope that things go back to the way they were 65 years ago, when 'Leave it to Beaver' was how they saw themselves, happy, white, Christian, in charge, a household run by the man of the house on his income, intelligence and strength, but also a place untouched by minorities, lgtbq Americans, strong women or people of other faiths expressing themselves. To them, those are what have sullied "their" America, completely forgetting that it's all of our America. Many have apparently forgotten that not long before that, they were the immigrants, they were the minorities coming to these shores, being drawn to that land of hope and opportunity, to that shining city on a hill.
You're sure out of touch about what the American people want.
You keep on believing what you need to to get you through the night. The fact is the majority of Americans (in general being referred to as 'American people') disapprove of this failure of a President. I may be out of touch with what a minority of bitter bigots want, but I don't see that as a bad thing.
"Grope and Change" IS the Pussy Grabber-in-Chief's campaign slogan. Democrats would never want to appropriate the pride he has in his tales of sexual assault.
Yet it's people who listen to the hate, racism, bigotry and lies of your demigod trump. Fortunately people are starting to figure out he's a loud mouth con artist and nothing more.
With in the next 10 years or so the republican party is going to be so split it won't have a name. The I wonder how the republican trolls will be paid
Hmmmmm .... I don’t have a demigod. Maybe that’s your modus operandi but it isn’t mine.
The I wonder how the republican trolls will be paid
Nah ...... trolling ..... that’s more of a thing for the butthurt. Specifically, the resist movement. Poor things will never get over it. I feel sorry for them. I really do.
Yes indeed. Republicans have held the keys to the kingdom, held the majority in most states for many years.
How in the name of God can right wing voters scream and whine about the country going on the wrong direction, scream "they want their country back", whine that they are "victims", scream about immigration, moan about the economy, when THEY DID THIS THEMSELVES!
Republican majorities, Republican elected officials have created mess, after mess, after mess, then spin it's someone else's fault. Just like a toddler who broke Mom's vase, they run away, lie "it wasn't me", and expect no punishment.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
It's too bad so many republicans have been fooled by trump and his minions. It's amazing how those on the right with even average intellectual have discarded christianity and the teachings of Christ.
Well, by their actions over the years, it would appear that those on the left with even average intelligence have totally mocked and ridiculed those people of faith and ignored the teachings of Christ, regardless of party affiliation.
To keep up with this fiction that we are being fooled by Trump is simply stupid. 62 million people did not have a simultaneous collective mental breakdown and pulled the wrong lever. They knew long beforehand that HRC was an awful person and a horrible candidate and would be a terrible president.
It's too bad that so many democrats are being led astray by their so called leaders who appear to not have a plan or a clue about how to win the next elections. Simply being "against Trump" won't cut it. The American people want to know what you and your liberal leaders are for instead of what you are against.
It only appears that way to people with really good imaginations. The fact is nearly 80% of Democrats are Christians and rely on their faith daily. Just because they haven't embraced the Golden Calf in the oval office doesn't mean they're not real Christians. In fact, I would say it's just the opposite. Bowing down to this false idol as so many of faux-faith have done just proves what kind of person they truly are.
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Ah yes, an opinion straight from the University of Your Gut. I'm sure the education you collect there is at least as good as the one received at Trump U.
If you add up Catholic, Mormon, Protestant, JW, evangelical and Orthodox Christian groups you get 78% (just under 80% as I said). Those are all the "Christian" groups identified in the Pew poll. In the historically black Protestant category they are at 80% by themselves. 80% of black Democrats profess to be Protestants.
So where is the list of those 209 vs 4?
Was that a false title?
More attempt at distraction
You do realize that republicans no longer can claim to be Christian and have given up any values or morals they have had and are now worshiping a person is anti Christian
Again what does freedom mean to you and how do you figure you are a warrior
What distraction? The numbers he is talking about is in the body of the "story" you posted. How about showing those 204 to 4 "convictions"?
Bet you can't....
For Greg & bugsy....the picture DO used for the article is a popular but unattributed meme that takes a bit of license with the facts by adding the indictments and convictions from real charts.
Admittedly, the meme adds the indictments and convictions together in this chart to get the 209 vs 4 figures, which is unfair.
Still, 120 to 3 is extremely lopsided by any measure, as is 89 convictions to 1.
This chart, using the same math would indicate the number should be 120 to 4 indictments with 89(R) convictions to 1(D)
Interesting data. Especially considering all the zeros in the Obama column. Makes one wonder how that happened when he had; numerous cabinet members plead the 5th, numerous cabinet member's were held in contempt of congress, numerous cabinet members admitted to corruption and otherwise scandalous behavior, etc, etc.
Yep but none of them got indicted. Now that is a very interesting statistic. A downright "swampy" statistic actually.
None were indicted because they couldn't find anything. All of those fake conspiracy theories floating out there in gop fantasyland were nothing. Republicans controlled it all and had endless investigations that got nothing. Either they are lying to you (yes they are) or really really stupid (yes they are).
Bullshit. I bet even you don't really believe all that.
And if you do, you aren't as smart as you think you are.
Well, memory is a tricky thing it seems. It leads to questionable innuendo.
Not only were they not indicted but besides Loretta Lynch, none were Cabinet members and 2 actually got their jobs back.
Not only that, but;
Yes memory can be a tricky thing. Especially when it's "selective" right?
Very interesting some of the names you left off your list.
There is no point this. You've got yourself convinced that all of that was "okay" no matter what.
But by all means, keep spinning .... maybe you'l be successful in brainwashing someone here.
Why don't you post them with links?
No need to. You know who they are and what they did and yet you chose not to include them. A bit disingenuous don't you think?
Yeah, i know you think you got me because they didn't plead the fifth directly but they instead pussied out and had high ranking officials in their departments do it for them. They had no problem throwing people in their departments under the bus to cover their tracks did they? Making them arguably the "swampiest" among your list.
I have no idea what or who you are talking about. I guess you don't either. It happens when you believe liars and follow their sources.
Ah yes, end it with an insult.
Classic you.
If you think that was an insult, it begs the question 'what happens when a known pathological liar lies about something it gets repeated by others who either believe it or knowingly repeat said lies'. I still have no idea what or who you are referring to in your comment about who was being left off the list and you haven't done anything to clear it up. Republicans have tried to make up scandals against Obama for years now and most of them were big fat nothings. Maybe all of them. So how are we supposed to know what you allude to?
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out the conservatives here. Getting the vapors over things they have no problem saying to others. I've heard it all here and it seems like there is a newfound sensitivity to being attached to Trumps lies and attempts to hold himself above the law. The problem is, that is what one gets when they support and promote that person. On one had we hear how Trump supporters like 'telling it like it is' (more like what they want to hear) and not being 'politically correct', coining the term 'snowflake', etc. Now suddenly they don't like it? Or only they can do it? Trump represents all those negative things, racism, lying, cheating, ignorance, narcissism, trying to be above the law. His supporters can't be surprised to be linked to those. I do not mean that to be a personal insult, it is the price for all who support Trump and don't care how low he goes, they follow and defend him anyway, no matter how egregious. Enabling Trump is being part of the problem. Stand up to his lies and bullshit or be part of it. Have the same standards for Trump as Obama or Clinton or any other democrat. The gop has gotten so stuck with Trump they can't wash off the stench.
Sorry, I thought I (easily) found a rather objective list of what was exactly called for.
I left no one off "my list", it, like the charts above ( which I pointed out were biased) are easily found on the internet.
One thing is certain though, I agree that there is no point to this.
If I said the background of the comment box is white, I am certain that you would be disagreeable for the sake of being disagreeable.
Good day to you, sir.
nuh-uh...it's yellow!
No it doesn't but it does beg the question why some folks feel to the need to insult people they simply disagree with. [deleted]
That's almost funny .... so you have no idea who Eric Holder is? Perhaps you could be excused for not knowing his minion Patrick Cunningham but he was already included. The one who fell on his sword for Holder by pleading the 5th but you not including Holder is rich. It really is. Now here is where you insert your pithy comment as to why you didn't include Holder. Is there one more veiled insult left there on the clipboard? More than one i'm sure .... so feel free to pick one or twelve.
I have no such problems with many of the liberals here. [deleted]
Patrick Cunningham was #6 on the list above, Holder never used the 5th.
The following Thursday Eric Holder testified, danced around like a lawyer, but did not actually plead the 5th. Republicans in Congress demanded documents about Fast & Furious that they believed existed. Regardless of whether or not the documents existed, Holder let the deadline pass and became the first Cabinet level member to be held in contempt by Congress.
If you are going to quote me, please use the entire quote and not just the parts that support the comment you want to make. Entire quote added in bold above.
Very unmoderator-like of you SP
That said, i was very clear of the reasons Holder should have been included and more than one time. Read it again.
Where did you get that? I asked WHO you were talking about. I think you are mixing a couple of our comments up.
This might disappoint you, but I don't hate anybody. I vehemently disagree with some things and am passionate about others. The truth being one of them. Trumps endless lies and gop silence can't be ignored. The more damage conservatives think they will suffer being glued to Trump, the more 'outraged' they are by the linkage. But since the gop is now the Trump Party, they just can't get away from him. Seeing some real discomfort from republicans about that these days.
PS, do you agree with Barrs actions?
I quoted the comment as it was originally posted - without modification.
If you modified it within the 10 minute limit to change it, oh well, my bad. As one member of NT to another good for you
Moderators get to participate on NT too, in black ink. Perhaps you have noticed ( but not complained ) when other moderators publish article after article critical of Democrats and Independents,
but never Republicans? Please, spare me your false indignation. We ar both too old for it.
In black ink, I get to say, go fuck yourself and take the CoC consequences without arguing the point for hours or days. Get over yourself.
Bull Shit. No, you read it again, without the little voice in your head. You never mentioned Holder by name until comment 1.1.22.
Like I said elsewhere, you accuse others of being biased and unfair because they have a partisan stick up their ass for a few members on NT
while being unable to recognize the same behavior in your self.
The properly cited list was people confirmed to have used the 5th while serving the country during the Obama Administration as requested.
You obviously have a bone to pick with Holder, that just doesn't count when people tabulate which Obama officials took the 5th, while serving that Administration.
I guess we are all just not in tune with your inner anger about past administrations.
I can be sympathetic.
peace...
Pretty sure i included it originally, as that was my thought process but i honestly don't recall. i might have left it out and modified for clarity. It was not intentional if i did nor was my comment that followed. Not how i roll.
Where did i ever say or infer that you didn't so not sure why you bring that up
My complaint was for what i thought was an intentionally misleading (edited) quote. I take you at your word that you didn't do that. I would call anyone here for the same thing but especially moderators. You should be doing that more righteous than just regular members. Otherwise you lose credibility. And please, drop that chip off your shoulder. I never said or even inferred that "Republicans" don't do the same thing. And its funny how your chip drove you right to saying that. Again, i agree. You're too old to have that chip on your shoulders.
Again, i'm not the one who needs to be getting over myself. See above.
Bulllshit right back at you. You're not that stupid. Read the thread again. Oh and nice thinly veiled insult. SOSDD
Then feel free to call me on it then and we can deal with it. I call people on their biased BS here all the time. You don't like it. Considering your usual proclivities here I get that. Good luck trying to stop it though since i call em like i see em. You'll give it the old college try like usual but you'll never completely succeed the way the rules are here. Over on previous blogs, that are now defunct, you could have gotten away with that. Here, not so much.
True. As previously noted Holder wasn't man enough to plead the fifth for himself so he assigned a minion to do it for him. Hard to respect a man who would throw another under the bus to protect himself. Holder is a pussy, a pure pussy of man.
How could you be. All y'all are too busy working overtime hating on everything Trump. Chronic butt-hurt if you will and it's not getting any better.
One way we'll ever get peace in your mind. And that would be for me to agree with you ..... all the time. I suspect a big difference difference between you and i is that i hold no hate in my heart for people who hold different views than i. Too many on the left can't say that. I suspect you are one of them no matter what you say here.
One more coupon for me .... alrighty then ......
You have me confused with someone else apparently.
I will respectfully disagree. Your comment history here and there tells me otherwise, but you may suspect or assume what you wish.
Thx, you don't know how much it means to me to have your permission to think for myself.
Good talk!
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That's not what was said, there are those 4 criminal convictions. It's just Republicans have had 209. It's a comparison that you seem not to like. Does that make it untrue? Not at all, which is why you didn't even attempt to refute it with anything more than empty rhetoric.
Literally from the clip "The Democratic party, while no paragon". It's refuting in plain language the defense you posit. No one is claiming the left are pure as the newfallen snow, they just happen to be pointing out how yellow the snow happens to be across the aisle and are sadden as they watch 40% of the nation happily eat it day after day.
so much more than that is headed the lefts way.
Right, that's what Republicans have been saying for years yet the only ones who are actually proved to have committed crimes all turned up in Trumps camp or are Republican congressmen. But who knows, maybe they'll figure out a way to criminalize having opinions and string up Strzok, but I wouldn't recommend holding your breath for it.
im not republican but have been saying that for about 2 yrs.
simply because that is how long they have been investigating.
obamas lawyer is in trumps camp? that is interesting... LOL
the left has roughly a month, maybe less, before all hell breaks loose. but have no fear, before all is said and done there will be a few republicans found among the traitors on the left. and we will convict them all equally and then dispose of them properly.
Sounds like another Benghazi moment.
Thanks for the chuckle
Strzok is a republican, isn't he?
Yes, but apparently he's a "leftist" as are any Republicans who stand up for the rule of law and reject this wanna-be imperial President, at least according to Trump and most of his sycophants.
No one said that and you are just trying to show you didn't bother with video and would rather be off topic instead of actually having comments that were about video.
FYI, I did in fact watch the video. That hate filled obnoxious commentator just cemented my view and I stand by my statement.
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don't stand to hard, it might cave in on you
the left tries to overthrow the results of an election and sitting president.
yet, "they say" the right broke politics? LOL
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That's all you have? Thanks. You just proved the video. Great going.
As if he watched it. They aren't going to waste the time learning something that is counter to their already held beliefs. They have already circled the wagons and can do nothing but furiously rage at the wold beyond them that keeps moving forward while they're seemingly forever stuck in a miserable past. All they can do is gnash their teeth and hope that things go back to the way they were 65 years ago, when 'Leave it to Beaver' was how they saw themselves, happy, white, Christian, in charge, a household run by the man of the house on his income, intelligence and strength, but also a place untouched by minorities, lgtbq Americans, strong women or people of other faiths expressing themselves. To them, those are what have sullied "their" America, completely forgetting that it's all of our America. Many have apparently forgotten that not long before that, they were the immigrants, they were the minorities coming to these shores, being drawn to that land of hope and opportunity, to that shining city on a hill.
and that is twice as much as you will ever have.
the coming right-lash has only just begun.
You're sure out of touch about what the American people want.
It certainly is not the broken and divided democrats.
It's no accident that their leading candidate for president's campaign slogan is...
"Grope and Change"
You keep on believing what you need to to get you through the night. The fact is the majority of Americans (in general being referred to as 'American people') disapprove of this failure of a President. I may be out of touch with what a minority of bitter bigots want, but I don't see that as a bad thing.
"Grope and Change" IS the Pussy Grabber-in-Chief's campaign slogan. Democrats would never want to appropriate the pride he has in his tales of sexual assault.
The problem here isn’t Dems or Repubs per se. it’s people who listen to (and believe) hate filled, partisan crap like this video.
But by all means, keep spreading it and hoping it becomes mainstream. You only hurt your cause with this approach. Keep up the good work Don.
Bingo!
Yet it's people who listen to the hate, racism, bigotry and lies of your demigod trump. Fortunately people are starting to figure out he's a loud mouth con artist and nothing more.
With in the next 10 years or so the republican party is going to be so split it won't have a name. The I wonder how the republican trolls will be paid
Hmmmmm .... I don’t have a demigod. Maybe that’s your modus operandi but it isn’t mine.
Nah ...... trolling ..... that’s more of a thing for the butthurt. Specifically, the resist movement. Poor things will never get over it. I feel sorry for them. I really do.
Gee I see a lot of the butthurt among a group here that are not left.
Lol ...... yeah, keep telling yourself that Don.
Don't have to Spart it's all over the place that the republicans are done.
Good to know Don.
Don't have to Spart it's all over the place that the republicans are done.
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Yes indeed. Republicans have held the keys to the kingdom, held the majority in most states for many years.
How in the name of God can right wing voters scream and whine about the country going on the wrong direction, scream "they want their country back", whine that they are "victims", scream about immigration, moan about the economy, when THEY DID THIS THEMSELVES!
Republican majorities, Republican elected officials have created mess, after mess, after mess, then spin it's someone else's fault. Just like a toddler who broke Mom's vase, they run away, lie "it wasn't me", and expect no punishment.
"they’re making it impossible for Congress to work the way it’s supposed to."
Now how is Congress actually really, really, really "Supposed' to work ?
Just wondering.