The Democrats' 100-year flood

  
Via:  john-russell  •  4 months ago  •  5 comments

The Democrats' 100-year flood
He's driving turnout among those most unhappy with him (younger voters and people of color) even when he's not on the ballot.And Trump voters aren't a growing demographic group. The share of whites with less than a 4-year degree — Trump's constituency — dropped by 3% from 2014 to 2018.

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  • The Democrats' 100-year flood



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    Illustration: Aïda Amer/Axios


    The midterm elections may have been a sign of what's ahead for the 2020 presidential election: experts say the voter turnout could be the highest in a century.

    The big picture:  According to Michael McDonald, an elections expert at the University of Florida, turnout for the 2020 presidential election could be as high as 67% — the highest it's been since at least 1916. If that happens, President Trump will have a tougher fight for a second term.




    • He's   driving turnout  among those most unhappy with him (younger voters and people of color) even when he's not on the ballot.

    • And Trump voters  aren't a growing demographic group. The share of whites with less than a 4-year degree — Trump's constituency — dropped by 3% from 2014 to 2018.

    Between the lines:  McDonald is basing his prediction of  "a hundred-year storm"  on the 2018 midterms, which had the highest off-year election turnout in more than a century (50%). He says that momentum will only get stronger.

    "It doesn't seem to be the candidates  who were running in 2018; there wasn't hyper competition driving turnout; some states made it easier to vote, but that can't explain it because the increase was happening in every state," McDonald said. "So the only explanation is Donald Trump because he’s the only major factor that’s changed in our politics since 2014."

    • Turnout in the 2016  presidential election was 60%.

    "The safest prediction in politics  is for a giant turnout in 2020," said Larry Sabato of the University of Virginia. "Nobody's going to believe the polls after 2016, and everyone will assume a tight race."

    • "Anti-Trump Democrats and the pro-Trump base  will both set human adrenaline records — the intensity across the country is going to be spectacular. Let's hope the polling places can accommodate the crowds."

    With that kind of increase,  turnout rates would likely   go up for everybody. But:

    • Older white people  already tend to vote at high rates, and they're close to their maximum turnout already.

    • By contrast,  you'll see bigger turnout increases among young people, people of color, and low-income people — generally important constituencies for the Democratic Party — because they vote in lower numbers.

    • From 2014 to 2018,  turnout among whites with a 4-year degree went up 17%, while non-white voters' turnout increased by 15%.

    Yes, but:  There could be some increase among Trump voters, too.   Turnout among whites without a 4-year degree went up by 12% in the same period. "I'd imagine these people are going to be activated in 2020 with Trump on the ballot," McDonald said.

    While the country  is becoming more diverse, it's also getting older, particularly in places like Ohio and throughout the Midwest, according to the  2020 Census Bureau projections .

    • That's another group  that Trump tends to perform well with with, especially older white voters.

    The Trump campaign isn't buying it.  "Predicting turnout this far in advance of an election is a fool's errand," said campaign spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany, noting that there's no sure way to know which voters will turn out.

    The bottom line:  For all of his struggles in the polls, Trump is the incumbent and he has a booming economy. But a historic election turnout could wipe out those advantages — and the early signs suggest that's exactly what we're about to get.





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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

A flood of anti-Trump voters in 2020 would be the greatest sign possible that America is still a great nation. 

  • He's driving turnout among those most unhappy with him (younger voters and people of color) even when he's not on the ballot.
  • And Trump voters aren't a growing demographic group. The share of whites with less than a 4-year degree — Trump's constituency — dropped by 3% from 2014 to 2018.
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

I believe Trump will lose the popular vote by more than 7 million and lose the electoral college in a landslide 337 to 221 and that's before even knowing who will run against him. This is the first time in history we've had such an unpopular President that even before nominating a candidate they already have the majority supporting them just for being "not Trump".

"The ABC News–Washington Post poll released Monday found that 55 percent of respondents said they will not vote for Trump next year, with only 39 percent approving of his work since taking office."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/441103-poll-55-say-they-wouldnt-vote-for-trump-in-2020

Even if Trump were to get the same voters as he did last time, which he won't, he's lost a lot of ground since then and isn't running against Hillary, whoever is "not Trump" already has near 70 million American voters ready to vote Trump out of office.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.1  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    4 months ago
I believe Trump will lose the popular vote by more than 7 million and lose the electoral college in a landslide 337 to 221 and that's before even knowing who will run against him.

It depends utterly on who runs against him.  

I can see Biden winning handily.  I can see Beto winning handily if he can get the nomination.  Sanders... Not a chance.

Regular non-political Americans are not going to vote for a socialist simply to get rid of Trump.  Democrats are going to need a sane candidate.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.1    4 months ago

The Democrats are going to need a candidate on the order of a JFK in order to win an election over a president is presiding over a good economy and keeping us out of war, while getting tough in negotiations with our adversaries . It seems that all the democrat candidates are going over the radical far left cliff like mindless lemmings. The only area where the democrats seem willing to lead is in investigating Trump, while ordinary citizens seem to be getting tired of their whole stupid mess and failure to lead or govern.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.3  Jack_TX  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 months ago
The Democrats are going to need a candidate on the order of a JFK in order to win an election over a president is presiding over a good economy and keeping us out of war, while getting tough in negotiations with our adversaries .

Normally....yes.

But Trump doesn't do himself any favors.  If he behaved more presidentially, he wouldn't drown out his numbers.

Reagan, by contrast, was a measured, careful, great communicator who engendered confidence everywhere he went.  Trump engenders uncertainty and chaos.

 
 
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