Chicago Life Expectancy Gap Driven by Race, Segregation, Says Researcher

  
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Chicago Life Expectancy Gap Driven by Race, Segregation, Says Researcher

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Chicago has the largest life expectancy gap of any big city in America, and much of that gap seems to be driven by race.

A recent study from NYU School of Medicine   found that residents of Streeterville on the Near North Side could expect to live to an average age of 90. That figure for residents of Englewood, an overwhelmingly African American community just 9 miles away on the South Side, dropped to 60.

“There’s no easy answer” to this enormous disparity in health outcomes and life expectancy, says   Maureen Benjamins , senior research fellow at the Sinai Urban Health Institute which studies and attempts to address health disparities across communities in Chicago. But she says the city’s high degree of racial segregation clearly plays a role.

“The fact that we have community areas that are 90 percent or more of one ethnic group – that’s pretty extreme,” said Benjamins.

She believes the legacy of redlining, a practice which is now illegal but once allowed mortgages to be withheld from African Americans, leaving them to be largely confined to live in particular areas, created segregated neighborhoods that also concentrated poverty and the associated health problems that go with it.

“So when you have segregation like that, something like racism can really flourish in terms of disinvestment and some of the more structural factors that lead to the poor health outcomes,” said Benjamins. “I think it’s because it’s easier for policies to impact one area. If whites and blacks were dispersed across the city there wouldn’t have been an easy way to discriminate against blacks in that way.

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While such a huge disparity in health outcomes between affluent whites and poorer African Americans is shocking to many, health professionals have long known about this gap. Many factors that contribute to poor health outcomes – including poverty, community disinvestment and high unemployment – are seen at higher levels in Chicago’s black communities.

“Most people think it’s due to health care (access) and that’s not really it,” said Benjamins. “The access to health care (in North Lawndale, where Mt. Sinai Hospital is located) is pretty high actually because we have Mt. Sinai, we have Cook County Hospital, we have the medical district all here, and that’s not making the health outcomes any better in this community.”

Benjamins says she doesn’t think that in the past there was political will to address this issue but she hopes that Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s appointment of a chief equity officer to try and address some of the city’s most entrenched problems could signal a change of attitude at City Hall.

“Maybe the new administration is a little more serious about it,” she said.


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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 months ago
Chicago has the largest life expectancy gap of any big city in America, and much of that gap seems to be driven by race.

6 of 15 of the most racist cities in America are in Illinois. WTF is going on there?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/the-worst-cities-for-black-americans/ar-BBPwZTy

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1  Sunshine  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    4 months ago
WTF is going on there?

It is also a very corrupt state.  4 governors have been in prison.  3 Democrats and 1 Republican.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    4 months ago
A recent study from NYU School of Medicine found that residents of Streeterville on the Near North Side could expect to live to an average age of 90. That figure for residents of Englewood, an overwhelmingly African American community just 9 miles away on the South Side, dropped to 60.

Averages are funny things.   

If you fill a stadium with 999,999 penniless people the "average" net worth will be, well zero as they're all penniless.

Now if Bill Gates walks into the stadium making the 'population' of the stadium 1,000,000, suddenly the 'average' net worth skyrockets to over a million dollars each.  Even though there are still 999,999 penniless people in the population of the stadium.

But she says the city’s high degree of racial segregation clearly plays a role.

I will submit that a far greater role in the disparity of the numbers is the preponderance of certain lowlife scumbag thug gang bangers on the South Side blowing each other away in the ritual killing they enjoy on a weekly/daily basis.   It's not segregation, it's the neighbors.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3  Dean Moriarty    4 months ago

It would be interesting to compare the diets, amount of exercise, alcohol consumption and smoking habits between the areas with differing life expectancies. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    4 months ago

Well since the 2016 election, my guess is the White race crusaders in Chicago are drinking and smoking more.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1    4 months ago

Yes five more years of Trump could take a toll on their health.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.1    4 months ago

I don't think Trump causes mental health but I do believe he is the trigger for those who have a genetic predisposition to mental health issues.

I suspect that's why we experienced three years of delusional Russian conspiracies.

If re-elected I will not be the least bit surprised if the conspiracy shifts to Trump was elected by Aliens. It may all ready beginning with the Storm Area 51 advocates we are seeing on social media.

 
 
 
katrix
3.1.3  katrix  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.2    4 months ago
delusional Russian conspiracies

Really? It's been proven that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election and are still trying to interfere in our politics. There is nothing delusional about accepting facts.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.4  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  katrix @3.1.3    4 months ago

Yes I do remember, I heard they bought some facebook ads.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.2    4 months ago
I don't think Trump causes mental health

Well that's for sure...

"I suspect that's why we experienced three years of delusional Russian conspiracies."

So the dozens of contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian operatives, the Russian interference in our elections, the illegal hacking and dissemination of private American emails in an effort to get one candidate elected over the other by the Russians, direct offers of dirt on opposing political parties in exchange for favorable treatment by their preferred candidate, $1.25 million a month spent on surreptitious social media ads to help Trump win, that was all a "delusion"? If you've found evidence that none of that happened, please do share. In fact, share it with our intelligence community because they're the ones who have confirmed every bit of the very real Russian interference and blatant preference for Donald Trump.

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?”

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.” - Putin

 
 
 
katrix
3.1.6  katrix  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.1.4    4 months ago

How strange. I had no idea you were one of those who avoid factual news.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.5    4 months ago
In fact, share it with our intelligence community because they're the ones who have confirmed every bit of the very real Russian interference and blatant preference for Donald Trump.

Paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.8  XDm9mm  replied to  katrix @3.1.3    4 months ago
It's been proven that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election

So, that firm "Stop it", by the President at the time, B.H. Obama was about as effective at stopping Russian meddling as that "Red Line" in the blowing sand was at stopping Assad in Syria.

Got it.  Thanks for recognizing that the actual meddling happened under the ever watchful eye of President Obama.  And President Obama did jack shit to stop it!!!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.7    4 months ago
Paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign.

Right.... The intelligence community just took the Steele dossier and called it a day. I'd ask what caused you to draw such a moronic conclusion but I'd probably get flagged. Suffice it to say your comment is one of the most idiotic and least informed comments I've read this week.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.9    4 months ago
Right.... The intelligence community just took the Steele dossier and called it a day.

Do you mean like Clapper, Brennan and Comey?  Yeah, they pretty much did just that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @3.1.3    4 months ago
Really? It's been proven that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election and are still trying to interfere in our politics.

Oh that's right the investigations were supposed to be about the "Russians".

 
 
 
arkpdx
3.1.12  arkpdx  replied to  katrix @3.1.3    4 months ago

It is delusional if you still think there was any collusion or conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump campaign. A court case and the Mueller report said there was not. 

 
 
 
katrix
3.2  katrix  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    4 months ago
It would be interesting to compare the diets, amount of exercise, alcohol consumption and smoking habits between the areas with differing life expectancies

I think it would be a waste of time. I'm sure it's already been done - and it's pretty obvious anyway that there's a clear correlation. You have to take education into account, too ... less educated people don't know as much about nutrition and exercise (although pretty much everyone should know about smoking by now). I have a friend who grew up in Ohio with an absolutely crappy education (in his own words, he can barely read or write despite having graduated from high school - his school system just assumed he'd work at a factory, so it was no big deal except then the factories closed). His dad died of complications from diabetes. He was overweight and then started losing weight despite drinking tons of soda and eating tons of donuts and junk food. He swore he was healthy despite his diet, since he wasn't fat any longer. Three weeks ago, he had his toe amputated.

As the article says, there is no easy answer.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3    4 months ago
It would be interesting to compare the diets,

Would involuntary consumption of copper and lead be included in that dietary study?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @3.3    4 months ago

Are you getting Chicago, IL and Flint, Michigan mixed up?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.1    4 months ago
Are you getting Chicago, IL and Flint, Michigan mixed up?

Hardly.   The involuntary consumption of copper and lead traveling at over 1,000 feet per second is a major cause of death in South Chicago.  The facts are irrefutable.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @3.3.2    4 months ago

Then show me a link with your facts

 
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @3.3.4    4 months ago

Great job! jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

There was nothing in there about lead and copper toxicity. It was all about the murder rates.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.3.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.5    4 months ago
There was nothing in there about lead and copper toxicity. It was all about the murder rates.

Show me EXPLICITLY where I said anything about copper and lead toxicity.  

However, I will submit that trying to consume copper and lead traveling at over 1000 feet per second will most assuredly ruin the day and life expectancy of anyone attempting it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @3.3.6    4 months ago
Would involuntary consumption of copper and lead be included in that dietary study? Hardly.   The involuntary consumption of copper and lead traveling at over 1,000 feet per second is a major cause of death in South Chicago.  The facts are irrefutable.

How's that?

When you talk to a drinking water specialist and you talk about "involuntary consumption of copper and lead" that specialist is going to think you're talking about drinking water.

Know your audience

 
 
 
arkpdx
3.3.8  arkpdx  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.7    4 months ago

Who drinks water at 1000 feet per second?

 
 
 
Sunshine
3.3.9  Sunshine  replied to  arkpdx @3.3.8    4 months ago

jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  arkpdx @3.3.8    4 months ago

How fast you think that water flows through the pipes that comes down to New York thru the aqueduct?

Probably not that fast, but I will admit I wasn't paying attention to "1000 ft/sec"

 
 
 
arkpdx
3.3.11  arkpdx  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.5    4 months ago

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sunshine @3.3.9    4 months ago

Oh, yeah, that's right. You've never had a brain fart, have you?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.3.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  arkpdx @3.3.11    4 months ago

I don't think in terms of weapons, ammo, and gun fire. My gun is not an extension of my anatomy

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.3.15  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.3.14    4 months ago

If I thought of a gun as anatomy I'd be concerned about the aging clip hanging down to far.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
4  Nerm_L    4 months ago

IMO the biggest problem has been treating the black communities like lab rats in social engineering experiments.  Academic theorists have been trying to transform the black communities so they conform to an idealized social model instead of allowing the black communities to develop on their own.

The most important thing about a black community is community.  Academic theorists have perverted the idea of community into tribalism that is something to be avoided.  But tribalism is a feature of humanity, not a flaw.  Tribalism is why human social structure evolved into civilizations.  Attempting to artificially eliminate tribalism is contrary to human evolution; it's unnatural.  Self segregation is a natural result of human evolution.  People of the same race segregate themselves into distinct communities.  Self segregation is a natural human trait, not an aberration that needs correcting.

The important question that needs answered is not how to forcibly integrate people but, rather, how does a community establish and sustain itself?  All the evidence suggests that black communities are disintegrating.  We've seen the same thing happen in rural America.  History really does suggest that when communities fail then civilizations collapse.  Communities are the foundation of civilization.  We simply cannot become more civilized by weakening our communities.

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    4 months ago
“I think it’s because it’s easier for policies to impact one area. . . .

Benjamins says she doesn’t think that in the past there was political will to address this issue but she hopes that Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s appointment of a chief equity officer to try and address some of the city’s most entrenched problems could signal a change of attitude at City Hall.

“Maybe the new administration is a little more serious about it,” she said.

There seems to be a pre-existing bias in these reports that government must to be at fault in some way. I guess it's not PC to hold people responsible for their own fate. I'm not saying these things are 100% the fault of one thing/person or another, but the idea that people and cultures make choices never seems to be considered, even a little.

When it's always "someone else's fault" you can pretty much expect that whatever the problem is, it's never going to go away.

 
 
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