Utah teacher tells boy, excited to be adopted by 2 dads, it's 'nothing to be thankful for'

  
Via:  ender  •  one week ago  •  44 comments

By:   Nicole Darrah

Utah teacher tells boy, excited to be adopted by 2 dads, it's 'nothing to be thankful for'
A Utah substitute teacher was fired after she allegedly told a student who said he was thankful for his soon-to-be adoptive fathers it was "nothing to be thankful for" — and lectured the class about how homosexuality is sinful.

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The unidentified teacher, who was working at   Deerfield Elementary School   in   Cedar Hills   in late November, asked a class of fifth-graders what they were thankful for this year ahead of   Thanksgiving . One boy, an 11-year-old identified as "D.M.," said he was thankful he was "finally going to be adopted by my two dads."

"Why on earth would you be happy about that?" the teacher quipped,   according to The Salt Lake Tribune . She then reportedly lectured the 30-student class for 10 minutes about how  "homosexuality is wrong" and "two men living together is a sin."

Three female students asked the teacher to stop multiple times, and when she didn't, they walked to the principal's office to report her. She was ultimately escorted from the building and, as this unfolded, she continued to argue her point.

“She also tried to blame our son and told him that it was his fault that she went off," one of the   boy's fathers , Louis van Amstel, who used to work as a dancer and choreographer for   ABC's "Dancing with the Stars,"  told the Tribune. “It’s absolutely ridiculous and horrible what she did. We were livid. It’s 2019 and this is a public school.”

Amstel said school administrators immediately contacted them to tell them what happened. Amstel said their son was hesitant to talk, because he didn't want to get the teacher in trouble, but school officials put the story together after speaking to students.

The father commended the principal's actions  to KSTU , telling the news station "she's wonderful, she's been really amazing." He said the principal, Caroline Knadler, escorted the substitute out of the building, telling her: "There's the door, keep walking."

Van Amstel said the incident made their son — who has been in foster care for years and experienced two failed adoptions — "so fearful that this could make us think that we don’t want to adopt him."

Kelly Services, the company that coordinates substitute teachers with the   Alpine School District , said in a statement: "We are concerned about any reports of inappropriate behavior and take these matters very seriously. We conduct business based on the highest standards of integrity, quality and professional excellence. We’re looking into this situation and we have no further comment at this time."

The child is scheduled to be formally adopted on Dec. 19.

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Ender
1  seeder  Ender    one week ago

So sad. The kid was actually happy and this miserable scum had to go and do that.

Loved how the principal escorted her out the door.

 
 
 
Kathleen
2  Kathleen    one week ago

They should press charges against her. She had no right stating her own nasty opinion on a student and the whole class. That caused mental anguish to that student. Getting fired and escorted out is not enough.

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.1  Gordy327  replied to  Kathleen @2    one week ago
She had no right stating her own nasty opinion on a student and the whole class. That caused mental anguish to that student.

Indeed. It was not only mean spirited, but also demonstrates her attitude towards homosexuals.

 
 
 
Veronica
3  Veronica    one week ago

I hope the adoption goes through with no issues and the boy finds his loving home.  

 
 
 
Enoch
3.1  Enoch  replied to  Veronica @3    one week ago

Dear Friend Veronica: I join you in that wish.

I hope the holiday was a good one for you and yours.

P&AB.

Enoch.

 
 
 
Veronica
3.1.1  Veronica  replied to  Enoch @3.1    one week ago

Good day Enoch,

It was very pleasant for us, until today's icy/freezing rain stuff.  My daughter has a slight accident.  Hope all is well with you and your loved ones.

 
 
 
Enoch
3.1.2  Enoch  replied to  Veronica @3.1.1    one week ago

Dear Friend Veronica:Last night, today and tomorrow too.

Nasty weather for us here in our County, you and I.

I hope your daughter is OK.

We are all fine here.

Old, creaky, but fine.

P&AB.

Enoch.

 
 
 
Ender
3.2  seeder  Ender  replied to  Veronica @3    one week ago

So do I, on Dec. 19th  !

I just wanted to cry for the boy. He had a hard life and things were looking great and he was happy.

What could have been a great experience for the boy, with a good teacher that would have been willing to experience the joy with him and the rest of the class turned into a hateful tirade.

The woman has no business ever being in a classroom again.

 
 
 
Veronica
3.2.1  Veronica  replied to  Ender @3.2    one week ago

I know I wouldn't want her around any of my grand nephews and nieces.  I mean even though she doesn't approve of the situation she should never have made that boy feel so bad.  Awful person.

 
 
 
Enoch
4  Enoch    one week ago

Dear Friends Ender and Kathleen: The really sinner here is an adult who cares less for the well being and happiness of a child student than her own personal opinions.

Is she entitled to her own personal views?

Yes, of course.

The First Amendment, in all its facets applies to her no less than to anyone else.

The operative word here is "personal".

Her views were not relevant in a public setting, like a school.

The First Amendment is not without its limits, for good reason.

The First Amendment is not the only amendment, or the laws which it amends. 

First we take care of the children in school.

The personal beliefs come later, in general, not for one student in personal settings.

P&AB.

Enoch.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5  Paula Bartholomew    one week ago

Not only should that teacher be fired, but loose her teaching credentials also.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    one week ago

It's lose.

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shona1
5.1.1  shona1  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1    one week ago

Having a bad day over "their" Sean??? No worries it can only get worse......

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  shona1 @5.1.1    one week ago

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Raven Wing
5.1.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.2    one week ago

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shona1
5.1.4  shona1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.2    one week ago

A/noon Paula...He referred to you as an id**t..which is totally uncalled for...hence my reply..Must have confused him as there was no reply...Maybe the accent got him...Have a good day...jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  shona1 @5.1.4    5 days ago

In Sean's case he should remember the old saying.  It is better to be thought of as a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.  Thank you for having my back.jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.5    5 days ago

And you should remember not to be a hypocrite. 

If you can't handle a discussion and need to resort to name calling over grammatical mistakes, don't mistake loose for lose.   

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  shona1 @5.1.4    3 days ago

He can call me an idiot but I am the one whose comment was deleted.  It was merely a dining suggestion. His was an insult.  Go figure.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5.1.8  Sean Treacy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.1.7    3 days ago

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sandy-2021492
5.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sean Treacy @5.1.8    3 days ago

Sean and Paula:

Both of you have had comments deleted.  This discussion has gone on long enough.  Move on, please.

 
 
 
Kavika
6  Kavika     one week ago

What a horrible thing for that dumb ass to say to a child. 

Kudos to the students that stood up for the boy and also for going to the principal office to report her. 

A good boot in the ass as she was escorted out the door would be appropriate. 

 
 
 
shona1
6.1  shona1  replied to  Kavika @6    one week ago

Morning Kavika...All I can say is roll on Dec 19th and I hope he has the biggest party out..May he live a happy and fulfilled life with his 2 dads...Well done to his class mates and the Principal too.

 
 
 
Kavika
6.1.1  Kavika   replied to  shona1 @6.1    one week ago

I hope that he has the biggest party ever. Would love to see all his classmates and principal attend as well.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
7  sandy-2021492    one week ago
Amstel said their son was hesitant to talk, because he didn't want to get the teacher in trouble, but school officials put the story together after speaking to students.

This 11-year-old child who hasn't known a stable home until now has still managed to become a better person than this grown woman will likely ever be.

She's a disgrace.

 
 
 
Freefaller
8  Freefaller    one week ago

On the bright side the teacher (substitute) was fired and won't be spewing this sort of crap in the classroom again in the future. 

 
 
 
jungkonservativ111
9  jungkonservativ111    one week ago

I feel as bad for this kid as I do for kids with single parents. They will never know the balance of growing up in a happy home with a mother and father. For a lot of children, seeing their parents interact is the first time they witness how the opposite sex treats each other. This child will likely be at a disadvantage at life and will probably struggle to interact with women.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2015/07/27/kids-dont-need-two-parents-they-need-a-mom-and-dad/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jun/10/study-children-fare-better-traditional-mom-dad-fam/

 
 
 
Ender
9.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @9    one week ago

Peddle that bullshit elsewhere. I don't want debunked studies and religious wackjob views on parenting.

 
 
 
WallyW
9.1.1  WallyW  replied to  Ender @9.1    one week ago

Who needs moms anymore anyway?

 
 
 
Gordy327
9.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  Ender @9.1    one week ago
I don't want debunked studies and religious wackjob views on parenting.

Neither do I. I wouldn't want those views for anything else too. As it is, there are no valid, peer reviewed scientific studies which conclusively show children of same sex parents do any better or worse than those raised by hetero parents. Gender or sexual orientation alone does not a successful parent make.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
9.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  WallyW @9.1.1    one week ago

Yes Eric Clapton had it right. Motherless children have a harder time. 

 
 
 
Ender
9.1.4  seeder  Ender  replied to  WallyW @9.1.1    one week ago

Stay on topic or leave.

 
 
 
jungkonservativ111
9.1.5  jungkonservativ111  replied to  WallyW @9.1.1    one week ago

There are lots of studies showing children from fatherless homes have many issues and many mass shooters come from farherless homes. I struggle to find any studies of negative affects of motherless homes. Seems maybe they are only needed for the birthing? For now....

 
 
 
Gordy327
9.1.6  Gordy327  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @9.1.5    one week ago
There are lots of studies showing children from fatherless homes have many issues and many mass shooters come from farherless homes.

That's from a single parent household. THe child in the article has a 2-parent household now.

 
 
 
WallyW
9.1.7  WallyW  replied to  Ender @9.1.4    one week ago

I am on topic.  The  poor kid doesn't need  two "daddies".

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  WallyW @9.1.7    one week ago

But that is what he's getting and it's better than life in the system, even if you don't approve.

 
 
 
Gordy327
9.1.9  Gordy327  replied to  WallyW @9.1.7    one week ago
The  poor kid doesn't need  two "daddies".

Why not? What's wrong with that? 

 
 
 
katrix
9.1.10  katrix  replied to  Gordy327 @9.1.9    one week ago

Better than being adopted by a zealous Christian who teaches him that science is fake and that the earth is only 6000 years old, that gays are evil, and that he's a piece of shit for merely being born.

 
 
 
Gordy327
9.1.11  Gordy327  replied to  katrix @9.1.10    one week ago

Anything would be better than that.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
9.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  jungkonservativ111 @9    3 days ago
For a lot of children, seeing their parents interact is the first time they witness how the opposite sex treats each other

Did you really mean to tee yourself up like that? I mean, I am just giving you the benefit of the doubt. Do I really need to link a highlight reel of parents murdering each other? 

 
 
 
Ender
9.2.1  seeder  Ender  replied to  Thrawn 31 @9.2    3 days ago

If I am not mistaken, I think he was banned.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @9.2.1    3 days ago

He was not, but he was told what is and what is not acceptable behavior on this site. The choice was his to make. 

Had he continued that way, it would have ended in a banning (something we very rarely do).

 
 
 
Ender
9.2.3  seeder  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.2.2    3 days ago

Thanks for the clarification.

I know it is a rarity. I guess it was just the way I read it.

Sorry all, I would rather this be off topic from now on.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
10  Thrawn 31    3 days ago

I hope someone shits in her next coffee and lectures her on how being a bitch has consequences. 

 
 
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