Fire Breaks Out On Russian “Admiral Kuznetsov” Aircraft Carrier at the Barents Sea port of Murmansk.

  
Via:  flynavy1  •  one month ago  •  31 comments

By:   FLYNAVY1

Fire Breaks Out On Russian “Admiral Kuznetsov” Aircraft Carrier at the Barents Sea port of Murmansk.
At least two people unaccounted for. Images show Russia’s only aircraft carrier engulfed in smoke.

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A blaze has broken out aboard Russian Navy’s only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, that is currently at the Barents Sea port of Murmansk for repair works. According to the latest reports by RT.com six people have reportedly been injured, two sailors and one worker are listed as missing, as fuel is still burning aboard the ship.

The blaze was sparked by welding, after which the fire spread to a space of 600 square meters an emergency services source told TASS news agency.

The Admiral Kuznetsov is a heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser of project 1143.5, the only one in its class in the Russian Navy. It was launched in 1987 and it is named after the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union N. G. Kuznetsov.

This is not the first time fire breaks out aboard the aircraft carrier: on Jan. 7, 2009, a small fire broke out onboard Admiral Kuznetsov while anchored off Turkey during naval exercises in the Mediterranean with a group of Northern Fleet warships. Caused by a short-circuit, the fire led to the death of one crew member by carbon monoxide poisoning.

Considered that it’s dark in Murmansk in this period of the year, some videos of the fire circulating on social media are probably showing that incident aboard the aircraft carrier in 2009.


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FLYNAVY1
1  seeder  FLYNAVY1    one month ago

The damn thing needs to be melted down for razor blades.

"The Kuz" never leaves port without a pair of ocean going tugs because more often than not this bucket of bolts ends up getting towed back to port somewhere.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1    one month ago

Fantastic. How dangerous is the bucket of bolts?

 
 
 
The People's Fish
1.1.1  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    one month ago
Fantastic

This is no cause for celebration. Loss of human life and tragedy is never a laughing matter even if it is America's favorite conspiracy country.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    one month ago
How dangerous is the bucket of bolts?

dangerous to whom? opposing naval ships or it's own crew, when it's not tied to a dock...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  The People's Fish @1.1.1    one month ago
Loss of human life and tragedy is never a laughing matter even if it is America's favorite conspiracy country.

While I have nothing against the Russian people,    [deleted for deathwishing]

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.1.4  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    one month ago

From an aviation standpoint, not really.  The ski ramp used for launching only allows their aircraft to carry half of their normal stores of fuel and weapons.  (mass, inertia, that sort of thing)

She did at one time carry 16 SSN-19 Shipwreck anti-ship missiles, any one of which could ruin your day.

But like most Soviet era ships, The Kuz was most dangerous to those that went to sea on her.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    one month ago

So we're not allowed to "death wish" evil horrid murderers? Can I death wish a terrorist? Or am I allowed to death-wish terrorists only if they're Muslim terrorists, right wing terrorists are to be protected? I wished Putin would be killed just like he has killed so many journalists, political opponents and dissenters, had them shot in the street, poisoned and assassinated defectors with banned radioactive materials making him a clear war criminal, invaded a neighboring sovereign country and has killed thousands of their people, but you want to delete my comment for wishing he'd die in a fire? Really? What about convicted death row prisoners, can we wish them death? Putin is a piece of shit no better than Hitler, he's just murdered only tens of thousands of innocent people instead of millions.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.5    one month ago

I don't think the rightwing has reached a consensus on the question of whether vlad good or bad. still a lot of cold war diehards left breathing in trumps base. fearless leader thinks vlad is his pal, not a mean old muslim terrorist, not good to disagree with fearless leader. lethal radioactive injections or hotel window swan dives for journalists or defectors? sneaky spy shit = good. IED's? messy = bad. or.... might be a case of increasing your monthly ticket count on a bullshit technicality. you may have a fan club. I got a ticket for death wishing somebody that was already dead once. beat that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1.1.4    one month ago

Thanks for the information. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    one month ago

Russia is not known for it's damage control, quality control, and safety record. Pretty dangerous. Especially in their shipbuilding. In answer to your question, as a retired seagoing sailor, I would be downright concerned to sail on one of their vessels. Especially their nuclear submarines!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.8    one month ago

From the beginning of the cold war to the present, the Soviet Union/Russia has lost 18 submarines to accidents or unknown causes. That's a lot!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @1    one month ago

Hardly a power to be feared.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.2.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago

The SSN-19s she carried was something every western battlegroup commander respected.  A single hit on a cruiser or smaller warship would break it in two.  It is a high mach 2+ sea skimming missile with a 1600lb warhead or 500Kt nuke payload.

 
 
 
Kavika
1.2.2  Kavika   replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    one month ago

It would be extremely foolish to underestimate your enemy. Especially one with nuclear weapons and other advanced weaponry.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    one month ago

Here's another bit about the rust bucket.

The Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov has entered what is expected to be a substantial refit. Its performance in a recent deployment off Syria was not adequate; in addition to engine problems, it suffered flight-deck issues that contributed to the loss of two fighters, a substantial portion of its flight group. The readiness of Kuznetsov has suffered across its entire career, in large part due to a lack of experience and maintenance funding. As it is already nearly thirty years old, it is unclear how much more service the Russian Navy can wring from the hull.

Source:  https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/could-china-build-aircraft-carriers-russia-25604

Personally, I'm more concerned with the exponential expansion of the Chinese navy and their expansionist desires globally.  Russia is imploding on itself while the world watches with amusement.

 
 
 
WallyW
2.1  WallyW  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago

Yes, many of us are much more concerned about an expansionist China, than a decaying and dying Russia.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.2  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago
Personally, I'm more concerned with the exponential expansion of the Chinese navy and their expansionist desires globally.  Russia is imploding on itself while the world watches with amusement.

Not to worry. It seems pretty certain that trump will do whatever he can to come to the aid of his Russian masters!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
2.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Krishna @2.2    one month ago
hat trump will do whatever he can to come to the aid of his Russian masters!

At some point, do you recognize you sound no different than a 9/11 truther or birther when you keep posting lies about Putin being Trump's master  in the face of the Mueller  report, the IG report and three years of evidence? I'm curious when the embarrassment kicks in for the Russia truthers, if it ever does.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.2.1    one month ago

The Mueller report said it could not prove collusion. It also specifically said that Trump and his campaign encouraged and accepted Russian help. 

Given that Trump has said that he will accept foreign meddling in the election as long as it is on his behalf ,in 2020, I have the inclination to believe that there was some more precise collusion in 2016 that Trump and his gang were able to cover their tracks on.  It is obviously something that has great personal appeal to him. He loves to cheat. It is his nature.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago
Trump and his campaign encouraged and accepted Russian help. 

Citation for that pile? Please tell us what help they gave and he/they accepted.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.4  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @2.2    one month ago
Not to worry. It seems pretty certain that trump will do whatever he can to come to the aid of his Russian masters!

I'm hardly worried about Russia.  they're imploding thanks in part to the DEVASTATING sanctions Trump has put on them.

But then I guess that was a surprise to them as they WERE promised more leeway by his predecessor Obama.  That must have been a shock to them.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.5  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.2    one month ago
Given that Trump has said that he will accept foreign meddling

But lest you forget, it WAS the DNC that bought and paid for foreign interference and had the Obama FBI and DOJ running blocking positions to protect them while doing so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.4    one month ago

But, but Obama.  But, but Hillary

For fucks sake 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.6    one month ago
For fucks sake 

Is that all you think about?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
2.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.7    one month ago

Deflection at it's finest...

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.3  Split Personality  replied to  XDm9mm @2    one month ago

The Chinese bought the other two Russian carriers and reportedly decided to start over, copying the 1143.5 project design but replacing

avionics, attack systems and other systems with Chinese products. 

The older Russian carriers were supposed to be turned into hotels with casinos...

The Liaoning, while completely constructed in China is limited to shore patrol and can only carry 36 light jets or helicopter ASW groups.

It is neither fast, nimble or particularly sea worthy, but they are building a second one based on the same Russian design.

512

While American carriers are expected to last at least 50  years, the Soviet Admiral Kuznetsof which was built in 1982

appears to be on life support after 36 years.

 
 
 
devangelical
2.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    one month ago
replacing avionics, attack systems and other systems with Chinese products.

ie: stolen american technology

older Russian carriers were supposed to be turned into hotels with casinos...

a somewhat familiar ring to that idea

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Split Personality @2.3    one month ago
The older Russian carriers were supposed to be turned into hotels with casinos...

That was the 'ruse' to permit them passage from Russia to China.   

Now the Chinese can upgrade and build new ones with the technology they stole from us!!   Ain't allowing all those Chinese students (read spies) just great for us??

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.3.3  Split Personality  replied to  XDm9mm @2.3.2    one month ago

Not exactly...

Minsk

The aircraft carrier Minsk was part of the Soviet Pacific Fleet. It had to be retired as a result of a major accident which could only be repaired at Chernomorski's facility, located in the newly independent Ukraine. In 1995 it was sold to a South Korean businessman, and later resold to Shenzhen Minsk Aircraft Carrier Industry Co. Ltd., a Chinese company. Until 2006, when the company went bankrupt, Minsk was the centrepiece of a military theme park in Shatoujiao (沙头角) district, Shenzhen called Minsk World. The aircraft carrier was put up for auction on 22 March 2006. No bids at the starting price of 128 million RMB were received, so the carrier was withdrawn from sale.

On 31 May 2006, the ship was auctioned off in Shenzhen for 128 million RMB to CITIC Shenzhen, which operated the carrier as the CITIC Minsk World military theme park. The ship was painted with the hull number 015, matching the Chinese Navy's first aircraft carrier Liaoning (16).

After a decline in visitor numbers, the park closed in 2016 when the local government decided to reclaim land in the area. The aircraft carrier was moved to Zhoushan for repairs, after which it will be moved to another theme park in Nantong, Jiangsu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_World

Kiev

After the disintegration of the USSR, the ship was taken by Russia. Due to a low military budget and worsening ship's condition, she was retired on 30 June 1993. [3]

Post-service life

In 1996 Kiev was sold to Binhai Aircraft Park, a theme park in Tianjin, China. The concept was developed by world tourism and attraction consultant Leisure Quest International. [4]

In August 2011, the ex- Kiev was developed into a luxury hotel after renovations costing £9.6 million. [5] [6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Kiev

Varyag

Originally laid down in 1985 for the Soviet Navy as the Kuznetsov -class aircraft cruiser Riga , she was launched on 4 December 1988 and renamed Varyag in 1990. [7] After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, construction was halted and the ship was put up for sale by Ukraine . The stripped hulk was purchased in 1998 and towed to the Dalian naval shipyard in northeast China.

The ship was rebuilt and commissioned into the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) as Liaoning on 25 September 2012. Its Chinese ship class designation is Type 001 . In November 2016, the political commissar of Liaoning , Commodore Li Dongyou, stated that Liaoning was combat ready. [7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_aircraft_carrier_Liaoning

 
 
 
devangelical
3  devangelical    one month ago

tough shitski.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @3    one month ago

Da

 
 
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