The agonizing story of Tara Reade

  
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The agonizing story of Tara Reade
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This article seems too long to post in its entirety, so I just put up the conclusionary part of it. 

the whole thing is at

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/7/21248713/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-accusation


S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



By Laura McGann


Vox


.....The missing complaint


Reade told me last year that she gave a supervisor a written statement voicing her complaints about how she’d been treated in the office. The complaint was limited to the harassment allegation, not the misconduct allegation, she told me this year.

I helped Reade in 2019 request documents from a few offices to try to find the record. (Personnel files wouldn’t be released to a third party, like a reporter.) First, she put in a request with the   Senate secretary’s office , which maintains some employment records. That office provided a copy of her payroll history, which confirmed her dates of employment and salary.

We next tried the   Office of Personnel Management , which maintains federal records of employment, but the office was not able to track down a file in its electronic system. I then checked with a source who worked in a warehouse across the country where it would most likely have ended up to see if there was a physical file stashed there. He couldn’t find one.

One place the complaint could have landed is back in the Senate office, though that wouldn’t be proper protocol. Biden is now   under pressure   to check files maintained by the University of Delaware. He gave the university his Senate documents in 2012 under the condition they’d remain   sealed   until two years after his time in office. The time frame was extended when he decided to run for president.

When asked on   Morning Joe   if he would have the documents reviewed, Biden   said he would not , maintaining a personnel file wouldn’t be there and that the files are about his policy decision-making, speechwriting, etc.

Biden says that if a complaint exists, it would be held by the   National Archives   and they should release any relevant documents. He also sent a letter to the Senate secretary’s office asking for any relevant records, a request the office declined because any records that might exist are “ strictly confidential .”

Reade herself says the complaint didn’t include the assault accusation, so finding the complaint — or failing to find it — would neither corroborate nor debunk the most serious allegation.

The complaint could corroborate Reade’s claims of sexual harassment, which Biden also denies. But it’s well established that Biden has over the years touched women in a way that some have said made them uncomfortable, and Biden has acknowledged this publicly. Whether or not one finds his apology for that adequate, it’s the assault accusation that has made Reade the center of attention. All parties agree that the complaint wouldn’t speak to that.

Where this leaves us


All of this leaves me where no reporter wants to be: mired in the miasma of uncertainty. I wanted to   believe Reade when she first came to me, and I worked hard to find the evidence to make certain others would believe her, too. I couldn’t find it. None of that means Reade is lying, but it leaves us in the limbo of Me Too: a story that may be true but that we can’t prove.




There’s another issue at play, which Biden supporters and critics of Reade have pointed to in response to her allegation. A year ago, Reade went to mainstream, national outlets including the Times, the Post, and the Associated Press. It was in the middle of a competitive Democratic primary. She had no obvious connection to any candidate. And if voters or the party pushed Biden out, it was unclear who would benefit.

This year, Reade has emerged as an ardent Bernie Sanders supporter, with a much more damaging story to tell about Biden, who is now the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. She went public with the rape accusation on a podcast sympathetic to Sanders and followed up with   Ryan Grim of the Intercept , an outlet that has been consistently critical of Biden.

A few weeks before Reade spoke to Halper, she replied to a tweet from Grim seeming to tease that a story was coming. Reade declined to elaborate on what she meant in the tweet, directing me to a spokesperson. Grim said he hadn’t noticed the reply when she sent it, and he didn’t speak with her for the first time until March 8, almost a week later.


Reade’s supporters on the left see the Democratic establishment’s response to her accusation as hypocritical, particularly compared to how party leaders rallied around Christine Blasey Ford when   she testified   in the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings. In Ford’s case, there was near-universal support for her. Critics on the left say that Democrats should stand up for Reade, and that the “believe women” rallying cry should apply even when it’s not politically convenient.

But Democrats have largely lined up behind Biden. Top Barack Obama alumni have said that they   vetted   Biden fully in 2008 and found no evidence of the kind of behavior Reade describes. Rising Democratic star Stacey Abrams recently   said , “I believe Joe Biden.” Sen. Elizabeth Warren   penned   an op-ed with Biden. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, seen as a Me Too leader for her push to oust Sen. Al Franken after he was accused of sexual misconduct,   headlined   an event for Biden this week.

Many liberals have said now and during the Franken saga that the Democratic Party has held itself to a ridiculous standard. Donald Trump has admitted on tape to what Reade accuses Biden of doing and still denies the accounts of   more than 20 women   who have accused him of sexual misconduct. And given that the goal of beating Trump is paramount this fall, some see dwelling on an accusation that has yet to be definitively proven as a damaging distraction.

To Reade, though, none of this is that complicated.

“My story never changed. I just didn’t come forward with all the details. It’s really simple,” she said to me. “I held back this story because I was afraid of a powerful man.”


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago
This year, Reade has emerged as an ardent Bernie Sanders supporter, with a much more damaging story to tell about Biden, who is now the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. She went public with the rape accusation on a podcast sympathetic to Sanders and followed up with      Ryan Grim of the Intercept   , an outlet that has been consistently critical of Biden. A few weeks before Reade spoke to Halper, she replied to a tweet from Grim seeming to tease that a story was coming. Reade declined to elaborate on what she meant in the tweet, directing me to a spokesperson. Grim said he hadn’t noticed the reply when she sent it, and he didn’t speak with her for the first time until March 8, almost a week later.
 
 
 
Sean Treacy
1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago
de has emerged as an ardent Bernie Sanders supporter, with a much more damaging story to tell about Biden,

Oh.. A democrat complaining about another  Democrat must be lying, but when Democratic activist complains about a Republican (and her lawyer even admits ideaology motivated her to come forward!) she must be believed!

 
 
 
Ronin2
2  Ronin2    2 weeks ago

Love Democrats.

When the accused is a Republican the accuser must always be believed.

When the accused is a Democrat, then break out the tar and feathers, and beat the accuser into submission..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

Please point us to one person who says that Tara Reade told them in the time vicinity of when it happened that Joe Biden sexually assaulted her. 

My understanding is that there is not a single such witness. 

Last year her story was that she suffered sexual harassment in Joe Bidens senate office 27 years ago. 

This year her story is that Biden physically sexually assaulted her. 

What changed from last year to this year? 

Biden successfully ran for the Democratic nomination. 

Reade is a Sanders supporter. Does that mean she is lying? No. It means she needs more evidence. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago
It means she needs more evidence. 

Now, THAT is freaking HILARIOUS!!!

You doubt Reade but believed Ford--who had even LESS "evidence" than Reade!

Priceless--you just can't make this crap up!

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    2 weeks ago
Please point us to one person who says that Tara Reade told them in the time vicinity of when it happened that Joe Biden sexually assaulted her

Okay, here ya go. Please DO NOTE that the time frame is in 1993.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/05/...--the year of the alleged assault.

And DO NOTE that Ford told no one for some 30+ years. But you believed her! LOL!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

your link didnt work

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/26/.." > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/26/.. .

https://www.businessinsider.com/christine-blasey...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/.." > https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/03/.. .

or you can just type "When did Ford first tell anyone of her assault by Kavanaugh" into your browser.

That is, IF you really want to know the truth NOW, after supporting her when you bashed Kavanaugh.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

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JohnRussell
2.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

Im not going to open all those links. 

Give me one where someone says Reade told them that she had been sexually assaulted by Biden. 

Not a sexual harassment complaint.  A sexual assault complaint. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

Keep denying, keep whistling, keep moving the goalposts.

Yawn.

SOSDD

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
2.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago
When the accused is a Republican the accuser must always be believed. When the accused is a Democrat, then break out the tar and feathers, and beat the accuser into submission..

Nonsense. Democrats have consistently held the position of 'trust, but verify'. That is what they have done here by listening to her complaint, then asking hard hitting questions of both her and Biden. Mika didn't pull any punches as most well know, but that doesn't mean we should just accept as fact that everything the accuser said was true.

Ms. Reade's story has changed much over the last three decades, that is a fact. Now she says she didn't tell the whole story for fear of a powerful man. However, that doesn't quite play out since she says she did come forward and accuse him of harassment in the workplace. So it wasn't that she feared to come forward at the time, she says she did come forward. It's just the claims she made were not considered to be significant as it only claimed she felt she was mistreated in the workplace and that Biden made her feel "uncomfortable" as others have attested to due to his weird penchant for treating everyone younger than himself as a grandchild that he can snuggle and sniff their hair. None of the other accounts are sexual in nature, and neither was Ms. reads, until nearly 30 years later when he's running for President. None came out when he was running for Senate or Vice President, but now that there are many slimy Republican operatives willing to pay top dollar for a scandal her story changes to include pussy grabbing, something the current President had apparently popularized.

There is more actual evidence and corroborating witnesses in the Kavanaugh case than there is in this case, which means any conservative who vehemently defended Kavanaugh but is now attempting to drag Biden through the mud knows they are nothing but spineless partisan hypocrites.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3  Vic Eldred    2 weeks ago

"And given that the goal of beating Trump is paramount this fall, some see dwelling on an accusation that has yet to be definitively proven as a damaging distraction."

So finally the progressives at Vox have decided that the due process rights guaranteed under the Constitution are important! It is not simply a case of believing a woman without evidence!  This realization has struck very late in the day, after the insidious slandering of Bret Kavanaugh. 

What was it that finally allowed logic to enter the progressive mind?  The answer lies in the beginning of that sentence: given that the goal of beating Trump is paramount this fall.......Ah yes, it's time for due process!

 
 
 
squiggy
4  squiggy    2 weeks ago

the-double-standards.jpg

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  squiggy @4    2 weeks ago

She asked that because it would let her know whether it was just a creepy grandpa sniffing her hair or a slimy pervert like our President trying to grab her pussy. Considering the President has been accused by at least 25 women of sexual assault as well as being accused of raping a 13 year old along with his friend convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and said in his own words he doesn't "even wait" for consent and believes he can do anything to women because he thinks himself a star, even admitting to grabbing them by the pussy, it's easy to see why the Mom would want to draw a clear line between what Republicans apparently consider okay and what Democrats consider okay.

Could you imagine the hay the Republicans would be making if it had been Joe Biden accused in two different States courts of raping a 13 year old and having been known to hang out with convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein even if the case had been thrown out due to lack of physical evidence? Do you think that would matter to Republicans? Do you think they would just remain silent and dismiss the allegations? We can see how much hay they are making of Ms. Reades accusations and that's when she never when to the courts and never even made the claim of assault until 27 years after the indecent. Trump was accused of raping the 13 year old long before he was even running for President so it's not like she was just doing it to sabotage a political campaign. I guess Republicans just believe that all's fair in war and politics and that the ends justify their slimy cowardly means.

 
 
 
squiggy
4.1.1  squiggy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    2 weeks ago
grab her pussy.

Oooooo, almost made it through the first sentence.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  squiggy @4.1.1    2 weeks ago
Oooooo, almost made it through the first sentence.

Well don't give up now, literacy is a useful skill, just keep trying.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  squiggy @4.1.1    2 weeks ago

I wonder just what in the hell some folks would do if Trump didn't exist?

I mean, how could they respond to anything without bringing Trump up?

they sure can't seem to do so now.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

the goal of beating Biden is paramount this fall, some see dwelling on an accusation that has yet to be definitively proven as a damaging distraction.

And the right should keep dwelling on the accusation so that it will prove to be a damaging distraction for Biden.

Remember, with the leftists, the seriousness of the allegation is all that matters, no matter if it's true or not.

 
 
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