NASCAR reveals pic of noose, concern was 'real'


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Via:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  20 comments

NASCAR reveals pic of noose, concern was 'real'

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NASCAR released an image of the noose that was found in the garage of the No. 43 team of Bubba Wallace at Talladega Superspeedway, saying it had been placed there in October 2019 but that it was unable to determine who tied the rope and why it was done.


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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Sorry MAGA, that looks like a noose. 

1.1  devangelical  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

it is a noose. somebody went to a lot of trouble just to tie a loop for the garage door...

Sean Treacy
1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago

Round up the  pyschics! Someone knew last year that Bubba Wallace would be randomly assigned a garage bay in 9 months.  

1.1.2  Ender  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago

Someone knew what they were doing and had practice at doing it.

Sean Treacy
1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

So you are with the Oakland mayor who thinks the exercise ropes put up by a black man to swing from are acts of terror?

Troublesome knots are the real problem facing America!

1.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2    2 weeks ago

not when they're around the right necks...

1.3  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

Sorry John, your attempt to turn this into a hate crime against Bubba is an epic fail.

1.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  MonsterMash @1.3    2 weeks ago

Where did I try to turn it into a hate crime?

If it was done last fall then it isnt a hate crime against Wallace. The point is it looks like a noose and there was sufficient reason for Wallace and NASCAR to be concerned. 

1.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.1    2 weeks ago
there was sufficient reason for Wallace and NASCAR to be concerned.

I agree they had cause for concern. What they should not have done was declare unequivocally that a hate crime had been committed and encourage everyone else to light their collective hair on fire over this alleged national emergency.

1.3.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Tacos! @1.3.2    2 weeks ago

I believe Wallace was getting death threats before this rope was found. I'm sure that NASCAR thought the rope might be part of the death threats. Everything gets put immediately into the media now, thats the way things are and it isnt likely to change. 

Paula Bartholomew
1.3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.1    2 weeks ago

If it was last fall, how come no one noticed it until now?

Just Jim NC TttH
1.3.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.3.4    2 weeks ago

I am quite sure they did and blew it off as something someone did trying to be funny. Be interesting to know what team WAS in garage 4 last October.

1.3.6  Ender  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.5    2 weeks ago

They have to know who was assigned there.

1.3.7  ThereAreFourLights  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3.5    2 weeks ago

appears to be Wood Bros Racing/car 21 (also looks like a Wood Bros employee in the pic). there's an Inside Edition Youtube video that shows what appears to be the same door pull.

Dismayed Patriot
1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago
Sorry MAGA, that looks like a noose. 

"The hangman's knot or hangman's noose (also known as a collar during the Elizabethan era) is a knot most often associated with its use in hanging a person. For a hanging, the knot of the rope is typically placed under or just behind the left ear, although the most effective position is just ahead of the ear, beneath the angle of the left lower jaw. The pull on the knot at the end of the drop levers the jaw and head violently up and to the right, which combines with the jerk of the rope becoming taut to wrench the upper neck vertebrae apart. This produces very rapid death, whereas the traditional position beneath the ear was intended to result in the mass of the knot crushing closed (occluding) neck arteries, causing cessation of brain circulation. The knot is non-jamming but tends to resist attempts to loosen it."

"Each additional coil adds friction to the knot, which makes the noose harder to pull closed or open. When Grover Cleveland was the sheriff of Erie County, he performed two hangings. Cleveland was advised by a more experienced Sheriff to grease the rope with tallow and run it through the knot a few times to ensure rapid closure with the drop. The number of coils should therefore be adjusted depending on the intended use, the type and thickness of rope, and environmental conditions such as wet or greasy rope. Six to eight loops are normal when using natural ropes. One coil makes it equivalent to the simple running knot."

You'll notice this is a classic 7 loop hangman's noose. If this was simply to open or close a garage door a simple running knot or slip knot would have sufficed.

Now this could have been just some random NASCAR mechanic or team employee who was just fascinated with nooses and intentionally tied one for the garage he was working in and it had nothing to do with Bubba, but it's clearly intentionally a hangman's noose.

1.4.1  bccrane  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.4    2 weeks ago

I went back to the article with the picture of the rope pull from 2019, the ropes don't match, the one from 2019 is not a classic 7 loop noose, the loop is smaller, the rope is lighter, and the one in 2019 is dirtier as what you would find in a garage.   

2  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

The door pull was only a door pull until Bubba Wallace became involved.  Bubba Wallace made the door pull racist simply because of the color of his skin.

Just Jim NC TttH
2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Nerm_L @2    2 weeks ago


Paula Bartholomew
3  Paula Bartholomew    2 weeks ago

Now that is the noose that I first saw on the news.  My mistake was thinking it was hanging from a rafter when it was instead in the doorway.  Another seed showed a small loop at a bottom of a rope which looks nothing like a noose.

Trout Giggles
3.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    2 weeks ago

The way the knot is tied is definitely a noose. If you wanted a simple door pull you wouldn't put that many loops in the knot (those loops do the job in the neck breaking and/or strangulation).


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