Is this the Middle East? No, It's the Radical Left Chanting "Death To America" in Oakland!
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The best BBQ on the planet can be found in the parking lot of Arrowhead stadium before every Chiefs home game.
Saw Patrick Mahomes throw a football at the channel 4 news copter last year from the end zone. It sailed out of the stadium and ended up in the parking lot.
This is what pisses me off about liberals, we have something good that 75% of people agree on, and then a few of our idiot members go out and chant "Death to America." What the fuck? That is like sitting in a meeting and everything is good, you are just about to sign the papers, and all of a sudden someone on your side jumps up and says "we also demand a lifetime membership to Baskin Robbins!" and everything goes to shit.
This is what pisses me off about liberals, we have something good that 75% of people agree on, and then a few of our idiot members go out and chant "Death to America." What the fuck?
Well, I always thought herding Democrats was a lot like herding cats. Noticeably more so than the right, anyway. But if you want to know why this happens, I believe it is because they are paying thousands of dollars for professors in liberal colleges to fill their heads with crap they make up to justify their jobs as professors. They create imaginary and useless degrees like race theory and women's studies that also somehow revolve around Marxism which are based on unreality and get people to swallow it all. The people you see in the video live in an imaginary world that has never existed, doesn't exist now and will not exist in the future. For the most part, they are completely divorced from reality and, in being so divorced, can't understand why the rest of us resist them so much.
China went through pretty much the same thing during their cultural revolution. A lot of people died because a bunch of young kids preferred idealism to reality. So did the government and millions starved because of it. If these idiots ever get actual power, the same thing will happen here. These idiots would be putting people in re-education camps faster than they could be built. They would be enacting policy based solely on dreams of some utopia they hold in their heads.
I know you don't like Trump. I'm not particularly fond of him, either. However, these people in the video support Biden. Biden is supported by an increasingly extreme left leaning house and senate. Biden will have to appease these types if he wants to get anything done or get a second term. Plus, I think his platform is a very bad one. I think they intend to actually destroy America. So, in November I'll be casting my vote in hopes of preventing that. While I don't like Trump I will be voting for him this time around (I didn't last time), but I won't be thinking of it as voting for Trump, I'll be thinking of it as voting against Biden.
I know you don't like Trump. I'm not particularly fond of him, either. However, these people in the video support Biden. Biden is supported by an increasingly extreme left leaning house and senate. Biden will have to appease these types if he wants to get anything done or get a second term. Plus, I think his platform is a very bad one. I think they intend to actually destroy America. So, in November I'll be casting my vote in hopes of preventing that. While I don't like Trump I will be voting for him this time around (I didn't last time), but I won't be thinking of it as voting for Trump, I'll be thinking of it as voting against Biden.
Well, Ironically, I will be doing the same thing but I will be voting for Biden and not Trump. Trump's America is toxic, and we didn't get to this place without his role in it. He had to yank not one but two guest speakers last minute for antisemitic tweets. He supports a lunatic who believes in Q Anon, because she likes him. Neo Nationalists in Germany are using him as a role model. If you don't find that disturbing, then there is a bigger issue than I thought.
There are loonies on both sides, so using them as your reason to vote for a candidate or not, is a poor way to make a choice. Look at the candidate and ask yourself, does that person seem presidential? What do they really stand for? There is no proof that Biden will have to appease anyone if elected. What president does?
The people you see in the video live in an imaginary world that has never existed, doesn't exist now and will not exist in the future
Good description of the rational for voting for Trump.
Historians widely believe Trump is the worst president of all time. More than that he is the worst human being of all the presidents.
If I say what Trump supporters are it will only get deleted.
There was a time, 5 year ago when we could debate whether or not Trump is fit for office, but no more. Biden is fit for office and trump is not. There is no need to go any farther in analysis than that.
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In 2011 Donald Trump led a racist conspiracy against the sitting president. Trump was so damn dumb he failed to notice that the state of Hawaii had, officially, affirmed that Obama's birth certificate was sitting in the Dept of Health archives. Someone that damn dumb should never have got off the ground as a candidate, but we underestimated the power of white racial grievance.
Trump's America is toxic, and we didn't get to this place without his role in it.
I can't imagine what you think it toxic about America. Trump, I could agree with, but America? I mean, it is getting toxic, but that's hardly his fault. That has much, much more to do with the left than it does with Trump. And, while Trump may be toxic, he isn't very contagious. If he were, the house, when Republicans owned it and the Senate would have backed him rather than fight most of what he did. And the only reason they are backing him right now is in order to defeat Biden. If he wins, they're going to go right back to not supporting him.
He had to yank not one but two guest speakers last minute for antisemitic tweets. He supports a lunatic who believes in Q Anon, because she likes him. Neo Nationalists in Germany are using him as a role model. If you don't find that disturbing, then there is a bigger issue than I thought.
I do not find it disturbing because, in spite of all that, there's nothing going on in government that is trying to push the government further to the right. Not only did he give these guys the boot, he loves Israel. Because someone associated with him turns out to be less than shiny doesn't mean there's some sort of plan to bring back slavery or start herding Jews into camps. Do you see the Senate putting forth any bills trying to do anything like that?
There are loonies on both sides, so using them as your reason to vote for a candidate or not, is a poor way to make a choice. Look at the candidate and ask yourself, does that person seem presidential? What do they really stand for? There is no proof that Biden will have to appease anyone if elected. What president does?
Um, I think looking at someone and asking, does that person seem presidential is a pretty poor way to choose a president. That's just appearance, for goodness sake. What I care about is the platform. What are they running on? What have they said about what they want? Personally, I find quite a bit of the Democratic platform pretty awful. Not something I want to be a part of. Especially with Pelosi in charge of it. And Harris ending up as president isn't very appealing, either. I don't want our guns taken from us, go to prison because I refuse to recognize that a biological male is a woman just because he feels like it or use someone's preferred pronouns, get fired, sued or go to prison because I believe All Lives Matter, support government funded murder of the unborn or the purpose of the public school system being to indoctrinate our children into leftist ideology and/or LGBTQ ideology, which is already happening. In short, I'm not going to vote for the party that intends to indoctrinate us all into an ideology I find about as evil as it gets.
I don't know what you think about America, but we're still about as good as it gets. As for opportunity, we're still the best, even though the Democrats are doing every single thing they can to change that. They aren't leaving any stone unturned. And all the lemmings are following right along, most enthusiastically from the youngest who've been most recently educated in the public school system and liberal colleges. The older lemmings follow right along but, the older the lemmings get the more confused they become because they wonder what has happened to their party. A few of the lemmings have their eyes opened and decide to stop being lemmings and dump the Dems.
I don't know how much longer this country can survive as it is but it is certainly doomed. When the generation currently in public school systems are into college and then out trying to find jobs, that's going to be it. They will be filled with nothing but the mush of leftist ideology and the attention span of a squirrel on caffeine due to their dependence on electronic devices giving them their dopamine fix every few seconds. All they're going to be interested in is what free crap is the government going to give them so they can get back to their phones and xboxes. They will have no thoughts of their own. They won't know how anything really works. But the democratic controlled government, which is inevitable at this point, will keep them occupied by having them out in the streets protesting some made up problem so they can feel all emotional and good and get their hate out at anyone other than the actual problem, the Democratic leftists that desire to make everyone except the elites dependent on them so they are easier to control.
You probably think I'm paranoid. Well, I don't know how old you are or how much time you have left on this Earth, but if you're still around in 20 years, remember what I said. Personally, I doubt we have that long. In fact, I think Christ will be back very soon so we might be just a year or two away from things going south very fast. We'll see.
How the "Conservatives" stir up the Protesters. What we don't normally see....
Yeah, I've seen this vid a number of times. Your point of view is interesting. You apparently see this in terms opposite of mine, blaming the conservatives. From my perspective, this is entirely the fault of the "Protesters" as you put it. I'd be curious to know what you see when you watch this. I will tell you what I see in the mean time.
I see a group of Antifa or Antifa supporters making demands that are unreasonable by anyone's standards. They are at a "protest" in a public space. It isn't reasonable to ask that no one photograph them. One has to wonder why they would ask it. Perhaps because they intend to do stuff that could get them in trouble with the police and do not want anyone to get images of their faces? Whatever the reason is, there's no reasonable basis for demanding that a. they not take photographs and b. they leave the area. It's a public space. Deal with it. But, as is typical for these people, they think they can make demands like this and expect them to be followed because they believe their convictions give them the right to do so. It is the same convictions that make them believe they can destroy businesses, public property, attack police and other people and whatever else they think is necessary. These Antifascists (which is funny as hell since they act more like fascists than not) do not care about anyone else's rights. They only care about what they themselves desire.
In short, these "conservatives" stirred up your "protesters" by simply exercising their rights as citizens in a public space.
The saddest part of it all, though, is that when they get arrested for it, like the female, they can't understand why they're being arrested. They keep asking "why am I being arrested?" They cannot comprehend that there could be another view other than the one their convictions give them. They cannot comprehend they don't have the right to take away someone else's.
I can't imagine what you think it toxic about America. Trump, I could agree with, but America?
Read what I wrote:
Trump's America is toxic
Meaning his vision of America. Not the country I love. You know, like the one in the film where one single peaceful protester is met by so much hate.
I find quite a bit of the Democratic platform pretty awful.
Please be more specific and btw, Biden has his own and it has nothing to do with Pelosi. Btw, I pretty much feel the same way about both Pelosi and McConnell, and I don't know how you can't see him for the spineless politically expedient individual that he is.
And Harris ending up as president isn't very appealing, either. I don't want our guns taken from us, go to prison because I refuse to recognize that a biological male is a woman just because he feels like it or use someone's preferred pronouns....
Please show me where she has said all that. Each point please.
I don't know what you think about America, but we're still about as good as it gets.
For who? Blacks and other minorities, Jews? Did you even watch those videos I showed you? Btw, the rest of your post is straight-up GOP. Dems bad. GOP good. It doesn't work that way for me. I actually listen to what sides have to say and make a decision based on that and the quality of the human being and the one thing that you can not possibly defend is Trump as a quality human being, yet he represents out great country.
You probably think I'm paranoid. Well, I don't know how old you are or how much time you have left on this Earth, but if you're still around in 20 years, remember what I said. Personally, I doubt we have that long. In fact, I think Christ will be back very soon so we might be just a year or two away from things going south very fast. We'll see.
Well, I hope to be, but I am not kid. I just turned 60 this June. Things are not good, but they are not apocalyptic either....
while Trump may be toxic, he isn't very contagious
Couldn't read past there. If you think people haven't been blowing up and yelling, attacking others while screaming rhetoric they heard from donald....
That is closing ones eyes. There are videos all over twitter.
I did go back and read your last little paragraph and it sounds like a dominionist.
I don't like ANTIFA, but there is a reason why we keep seeing videos of the "left" acting out and it's an excellent tactic. The right goes in with cameras and gets them going. Then once they lose it, the filming begins. This is one of the rare times they were caught in the act. My point is that both sides have elements that are not angels, yet you only buy into one part of the narrative.
I see a group of Antifa or Antifa supporters making demands that are unreasonable by anyone's standards. They are at a "protest" in a public space. It isn't reasonable to ask that no one photograph them. One has to wonder why they would ask it.
Because when they cover their faces, then the conservatives say what kind of people cover their faces? But hey, it is a public place, but that doesn't mean they have the right to invade their personal space, does it? Yet the filmer does it over and over again. That is antagonizing. So is touching someone you don't know in that context.
It is the same convictions that make them believe they can destroy businesses, public property, attack police and other people and whatever else they think is necessary.
You're painting with a broad-brush. This group looks peaceful. But let me make this clear, I don't support the destruction of public property or attacking the police.
In short, these "conservatives" stirred up your "protesters" by simply exercising their rights as citizens in a public space.
Excuse me Drakk, but they are not my protesters. They are protesters that are being unnecessarily being harassed. If the shoe was on the other foot, would your reaction be the same? If these protesters were getting in the faces of the conservatives there with cameras and invading their personal space and giving unwanted touches, would you be saying the same thing?
The saddest part of it all, though, is that when they get arrested for it, like the female, they can't understand why they're being arrested. They keep asking "why am I being arrested?"
I am not sure what you missed, but she was touched by the guy doing the filming, she tells him not to touch her, and then some other person punches the camera guy, but she gets arrested. Yeah, I would be asking the same question. Go back and watch the film.
Freedom of speech is not only for the things you like to hear.
Now that is actually funny, considering every day I read stuff here that I don't like, but yet it stands. Do you actually think I need that explained to me?
There is no proof that Biden will have to appease anyone if elected
Yes there is. He is a democrat. He is a liberal. He is a progressive. All three have long track records of appeasement. You can see it in the democrat controlled cities now. They are beginning to de find police departments, they have taken away the tools law enforcement needs to control rioting crowds and they are refusing to charge or prosecute those rioters that have been arrested. They are refusing any assistance from the federal government and even have hissy fits when federal LEOS defend federal property. Biden supports those "governments" already and has shown short for the protesters/rioters.
So, you're saying Trump's America is what happened in that video? You think Trump condones that?
Yes. I think he set the tone for people to say whatever is on their minds. He does, why not them. It started with his now-famous "fine people on both sides". Who says that when neo-nazis march chanting "The blacks will not replace us! The Jews will not replace us!"? He has had to let go multiple people who have worked for him for antisemitic comments, and two just right before they were going to speak at his RNC convention. He uses phrases like "Shit hole countries". Who does that?
There is some reason that so many Republicans have crossed party lines to join the Democrats in support of Biden and it's not because they are suddenly Dems.
But I guess he did us one favor. He brought the ugliness out into the open.
What is really funny is the lefties are all up in arms because someone is filming them in a public Park without asking permission while there were at least 5 or 6 of there group filming with out asking for permission.
The guy that hit the first photographer really shows his bravery (/s). Hit the man from behind when he is walking away.
Oh and those that were being harrased were not doing anything unlawful and we're within their rights to be there and to film.
They had the right to be there, but there are many legal cases where taking footage becomes harassment, even in public places. This is their MO. Keep bugging people till they flip out. Glad they got it this time so we get a full picture of the fake narrative.
Not at the moment, but I'm working on it. Probably not the kind you have in mind, though.
Funny to me that religious zealots will follow donald into hell. That you all think he is some kind of savior...
Funny how much tunnel vision your sort has. You build this image in your mind of what kind of person it would take to vote for Trump and then apply it to all of them. As if we have little shrines to Trump in our houses or something.
I doubt you care, but I don't think Trump is a savior. There's only one and he's not him. Nor are the Republicans as a whole. I do believe, however, that he, and they, will do less damage to our country than the Democrats will. Since there are no other realistic options, Trump gets my vote.
Well, I hope to be, but I am not kid. I just turned 60 this June.
Ah, well, I'll be 58 in a few days so not much of a difference : )
Things are not good, but they are not apocalyptic either....
Maybe, maybe not. I think I will be staying home come election night. The news is always using terms like "fear" and "terrified" when describing the mood of the nation concerning whatever disaster they're currently covering but I'm always wondering where the fear and terror are. But if Trump wins the election I'm actually scared about what may happen. Not terrified, exactly, but I think it's going to be bad. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Yes there is. He is a democrat. He is a liberal. He is a progressive.
So were a lot of other presidents and they did what they wanted to do when they became president. So you have not made your case.
The mayors have to answer for their own deeds. And I have not heard or seen where Biden has supported those "governments". In fact, he came out with an official statement against it.
Biden has been speaking out for months, but they deride his comments as coming "from his basement", so somehow they don't count the same as lying from the POTUS bully pulpit.
Thanks to the seeder for alerting us to the bullshit.
Get back to us when Biden grows a backbone. He is months late denouncing the violence. He will probably be months late figuring out if he won the election or not.
You think Biden is strong enough to do what he wants? Then why isn't he debating Trump? Outside of a few carefully orchestrated interviews with pro Biden media throwing him soft ball questions (that he still messes up); what has fearless Joe done outside of hide in his basement and let everyone else do the work for him?
Think that is going to change with him as POTUS? I am sure his handlers have very good control of him. He is going to make George Bush Jr look glorious by comparison when it comes to leadership.
Because QAnon is so volatile. They are social media conspiracy theory nut jobs- which beats the hell out of BLM and Antifa.
Which one has more pull with with their respective political party?
QAnon has Trump- who retreats their quotes- not the rest of the Republican Party (who ignores them, and wishes they would go away- like the Tea Party did). Republicans can't stand Trump- he is not Establishment anymore; so the chances of QAnon getting any traction in government are nil.
Antifa and BLM have Democratic governors and mayors standing down police to allow them to riot, loot, and commit assault & arson. Democratic leaders in Congress and Biden have both issued strong support for BLM, and rejected that Antifa even exists- blaming right wing agitators instead (of course they have yet to find them). Democrats need the black vote desperately to defeat Trump; they also need the radical element in Antifa to actually vote for a change. They are caving to both group's demands.
trump will win ten more states than he did in 2016
It’s scary to think that I live only 200 Freeway miles away from all that insanity.
Somebody should interview some of these loons. Why would you chant such a thing?
Same kind of people that chant Jews will not replace us?
Oh yeah, they are yesterday news.....
That's not an answer. It looks like an attempt at a distraction. Are you trying to defend these people?
I hope Jack London square is okay. I did some massive partying there when stationed in SF. Good times.
I spend many an evening in the ''Fat Lady''...Classic dive bar.
Mine was the bar with the mechanical bull, but I can't remember the name of it.
I liked visiting Jack London Square and am a life long Oakland A’s fan. There is an awesome BBQ restaurant there I really liked.
I was an A's fan when they were in KC.
Attended both Royals world series wins.
KC has no shortage of world class BBQ joints.
The best BBQ on the planet can be found in the parking lot of Arrowhead stadium before every Chiefs home game.
Saw Patrick Mahomes throw a football at the channel 4 news copter last year from the end zone. It sailed out of the stadium and ended up in the parking lot.
Fucking idiots.
This is what pisses me off about liberals, we have something good that 75% of people agree on, and then a few of our idiot members go out and chant "Death to America." What the fuck? That is like sitting in a meeting and everything is good, you are just about to sign the papers, and all of a sudden someone on your side jumps up and says "we also demand a lifetime membership to Baskin Robbins!" and everything goes to shit.
What the fuck?
Well, I always thought herding Democrats was a lot like herding cats. Noticeably more so than the right, anyway. But if you want to know why this happens, I believe it is because they are paying thousands of dollars for professors in liberal colleges to fill their heads with crap they make up to justify their jobs as professors. They create imaginary and useless degrees like race theory and women's studies that also somehow revolve around Marxism which are based on unreality and get people to swallow it all. The people you see in the video live in an imaginary world that has never existed, doesn't exist now and will not exist in the future. For the most part, they are completely divorced from reality and, in being so divorced, can't understand why the rest of us resist them so much.
China went through pretty much the same thing during their cultural revolution. A lot of people died because a bunch of young kids preferred idealism to reality. So did the government and millions starved because of it. If these idiots ever get actual power, the same thing will happen here. These idiots would be putting people in re-education camps faster than they could be built. They would be enacting policy based solely on dreams of some utopia they hold in their heads.
I know you don't like Trump. I'm not particularly fond of him, either. However, these people in the video support Biden. Biden is supported by an increasingly extreme left leaning house and senate. Biden will have to appease these types if he wants to get anything done or get a second term. Plus, I think his platform is a very bad one. I think they intend to actually destroy America. So, in November I'll be casting my vote in hopes of preventing that. While I don't like Trump I will be voting for him this time around (I didn't last time), but I won't be thinking of it as voting for Trump, I'll be thinking of it as voting against Biden.
Well, Ironically, I will be doing the same thing but I will be voting for Biden and not Trump. Trump's America is toxic, and we didn't get to this place without his role in it. He had to yank not one but two guest speakers last minute for antisemitic tweets. He supports a lunatic who believes in Q Anon, because she likes him. Neo Nationalists in Germany are using him as a role model. If you don't find that disturbing, then there is a bigger issue than I thought.
There are loonies on both sides, so using them as your reason to vote for a candidate or not, is a poor way to make a choice. Look at the candidate and ask yourself, does that person seem presidential? What do they really stand for? There is no proof that Biden will have to appease anyone if elected. What president does?
Who do you think empowered these people to act this way?
Good description of the rational for voting for Trump.
Historians widely believe Trump is the worst president of all time. More than that he is the worst human being of all the presidents.
If I say what Trump supporters are it will only get deleted.
There was a time, 5 year ago when we could debate whether or not Trump is fit for office, but no more. Biden is fit for office and trump is not. There is no need to go any farther in analysis than that.
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In 2011 Donald Trump led a racist conspiracy against the sitting president. Trump was so damn dumb he failed to notice that the state of Hawaii had, officially, affirmed that Obama's birth certificate was sitting in the Dept of Health archives. Someone that damn dumb should never have got off the ground as a candidate, but we underestimated the power of white racial grievance.
How the "Conservatives" stir up the Protesters. What we don't normally see....
You think the leftist Brown Shirts are going to stop once Biden is in office?
They will demand he defund the police; and shift to socialism the second he takes office.
Anything less and they will want his head- literally.
I can't imagine what you think it toxic about America. Trump, I could agree with, but America? I mean, it is getting toxic, but that's hardly his fault. That has much, much more to do with the left than it does with Trump. And, while Trump may be toxic, he isn't very contagious. If he were, the house, when Republicans owned it and the Senate would have backed him rather than fight most of what he did. And the only reason they are backing him right now is in order to defeat Biden. If he wins, they're going to go right back to not supporting him.
I do not find it disturbing because, in spite of all that, there's nothing going on in government that is trying to push the government further to the right. Not only did he give these guys the boot, he loves Israel. Because someone associated with him turns out to be less than shiny doesn't mean there's some sort of plan to bring back slavery or start herding Jews into camps. Do you see the Senate putting forth any bills trying to do anything like that?
Um, I think looking at someone and asking, does that person seem presidential is a pretty poor way to choose a president. That's just appearance, for goodness sake. What I care about is the platform. What are they running on? What have they said about what they want? Personally, I find quite a bit of the Democratic platform pretty awful. Not something I want to be a part of. Especially with Pelosi in charge of it. And Harris ending up as president isn't very appealing, either. I don't want our guns taken from us, go to prison because I refuse to recognize that a biological male is a woman just because he feels like it or use someone's preferred pronouns, get fired, sued or go to prison because I believe All Lives Matter, support government funded murder of the unborn or the purpose of the public school system being to indoctrinate our children into leftist ideology and/or LGBTQ ideology, which is already happening. In short, I'm not going to vote for the party that intends to indoctrinate us all into an ideology I find about as evil as it gets.
I don't know what you think about America, but we're still about as good as it gets. As for opportunity, we're still the best, even though the Democrats are doing every single thing they can to change that. They aren't leaving any stone unturned. And all the lemmings are following right along, most enthusiastically from the youngest who've been most recently educated in the public school system and liberal colleges. The older lemmings follow right along but, the older the lemmings get the more confused they become because they wonder what has happened to their party. A few of the lemmings have their eyes opened and decide to stop being lemmings and dump the Dems.
I don't know how much longer this country can survive as it is but it is certainly doomed. When the generation currently in public school systems are into college and then out trying to find jobs, that's going to be it. They will be filled with nothing but the mush of leftist ideology and the attention span of a squirrel on caffeine due to their dependence on electronic devices giving them their dopamine fix every few seconds. All they're going to be interested in is what free crap is the government going to give them so they can get back to their phones and xboxes. They will have no thoughts of their own. They won't know how anything really works. But the democratic controlled government, which is inevitable at this point, will keep them occupied by having them out in the streets protesting some made up problem so they can feel all emotional and good and get their hate out at anyone other than the actual problem, the Democratic leftists that desire to make everyone except the elites dependent on them so they are easier to control.
You probably think I'm paranoid. Well, I don't know how old you are or how much time you have left on this Earth, but if you're still around in 20 years, remember what I said. Personally, I doubt we have that long. In fact, I think Christ will be back very soon so we might be just a year or two away from things going south very fast. We'll see.
I would say it's the Constitution that gives them the right to say those things. Freedom of speech is not only for the things you like to hear.
Yeah, I've seen this vid a number of times. Your point of view is interesting. You apparently see this in terms opposite of mine, blaming the conservatives. From my perspective, this is entirely the fault of the "Protesters" as you put it. I'd be curious to know what you see when you watch this. I will tell you what I see in the mean time.
I see a group of Antifa or Antifa supporters making demands that are unreasonable by anyone's standards. They are at a "protest" in a public space. It isn't reasonable to ask that no one photograph them. One has to wonder why they would ask it. Perhaps because they intend to do stuff that could get them in trouble with the police and do not want anyone to get images of their faces? Whatever the reason is, there's no reasonable basis for demanding that a. they not take photographs and b. they leave the area. It's a public space. Deal with it. But, as is typical for these people, they think they can make demands like this and expect them to be followed because they believe their convictions give them the right to do so. It is the same convictions that make them believe they can destroy businesses, public property, attack police and other people and whatever else they think is necessary. These Antifascists (which is funny as hell since they act more like fascists than not) do not care about anyone else's rights. They only care about what they themselves desire.
In short, these "conservatives" stirred up your "protesters" by simply exercising their rights as citizens in a public space.
The saddest part of it all, though, is that when they get arrested for it, like the female, they can't understand why they're being arrested. They keep asking "why am I being arrested?" They cannot comprehend that there could be another view other than the one their convictions give them. They cannot comprehend they don't have the right to take away someone else's.
I look forward to hearing your perspective.
Read what I wrote:
Meaning his vision of America. Not the country I love. You know, like the one in the film where one single peaceful protester is met by so much hate.
Please be more specific and btw, Biden has his own and it has nothing to do with Pelosi. Btw, I pretty much feel the same way about both Pelosi and McConnell, and I don't know how you can't see him for the spineless politically expedient individual that he is.
Please show me where she has said all that. Each point please.
For who? Blacks and other minorities, Jews? Did you even watch those videos I showed you? Btw, the rest of your post is straight-up GOP. Dems bad. GOP good. It doesn't work that way for me. I actually listen to what sides have to say and make a decision based on that and the quality of the human being and the one thing that you can not possibly defend is Trump as a quality human being, yet he represents out great country.
Well, I hope to be, but I am not kid. I just turned 60 this June. Things are not good, but they are not apocalyptic either....
Couldn't read past there. If you think people haven't been blowing up and yelling, attacking others while screaming rhetoric they heard from donald....
That is closing ones eyes. There are videos all over twitter.
I did go back and read your last little paragraph and it sounds like a dominionist.
Drakk,
You seem to totally miss my point again.
I don't like ANTIFA, but there is a reason why we keep seeing videos of the "left" acting out and it's an excellent tactic. The right goes in with cameras and gets them going. Then once they lose it, the filming begins. This is one of the rare times they were caught in the act. My point is that both sides have elements that are not angels, yet you only buy into one part of the narrative.
Because when they cover their faces, then the conservatives say what kind of people cover their faces? But hey, it is a public place, but that doesn't mean they have the right to invade their personal space, does it? Yet the filmer does it over and over again. That is antagonizing. So is touching someone you don't know in that context.
You're painting with a broad-brush. This group looks peaceful. But let me make this clear, I don't support the destruction of public property or attacking the police.
Excuse me Drakk, but they are not my protesters. They are protesters that are being unnecessarily being harassed. If the shoe was on the other foot, would your reaction be the same? If these protesters were getting in the faces of the conservatives there with cameras and invading their personal space and giving unwanted touches, would you be saying the same thing?
I am not sure what you missed, but she was touched by the guy doing the filming, she tells him not to touch her, and then some other person punches the camera guy, but she gets arrested. Yeah, I would be asking the same question. Go back and watch the film.
The sad thing is believing all these protests are some sort of antifa conspiracy.
Nothing will change when people cannot or will not admit or try to understand why they are happening to begin with.
Focusing on agitators instead of the truth.
Now that is actually funny, considering every day I read stuff here that I don't like, but yet it stands. Do you actually think I need that explained to me?
An independent partisan...
Haha
Yes there is. He is a democrat. He is a liberal. He is a progressive. All three have long track records of appeasement. You can see it in the democrat controlled cities now. They are beginning to de find police departments, they have taken away the tools law enforcement needs to control rioting crowds and they are refusing to charge or prosecute those rioters that have been arrested. They are refusing any assistance from the federal government and even have hissy fits when federal LEOS defend federal property. Biden supports those "governments" already and has shown short for the protesters/rioters.
So, you're saying Trump's America is what happened in that video? You think Trump condones that?
You think I sound like a Dominionist because I think Jesus is coming back soon? I think you might want to review what Dominionism is.
Yes. I think he set the tone for people to say whatever is on their minds. He does, why not them. It started with his now-famous "fine people on both sides". Who says that when neo-nazis march chanting "The blacks will not replace us! The Jews will not replace us!"? He has had to let go multiple people who have worked for him for antisemitic comments, and two just right before they were going to speak at his RNC convention. He uses phrases like "Shit hole countries". Who does that?
There is some reason that so many Republicans have crossed party lines to join the Democrats in support of Biden and it's not because they are suddenly Dems.
But I guess he did us one favor. He brought the ugliness out into the open.
What is really funny is the lefties are all up in arms because someone is filming them in a public Park without asking permission while there were at least 5 or 6 of there group filming with out asking for permission.
The guy that hit the first photographer really shows his bravery (/s). Hit the man from behind when he is walking away.
Oh and those that were being harrased were not doing anything unlawful and we're within their rights to be there and to film.
So what are you then?
You actually think Jesus is going to make a return?
Do you actually think republicans do not appease their base?
You are still willfully trying to change what the protests are actually about.
Trying to blame all of a real grievance onto ones own personal beliefs.
I for one do not fall for bullshit deflection. I see what is real. I see real grievances and I do not see them being addressed.
I see agitators, I see infiltrators, I see a false narrative.
I see trying to deny a situation and place false blame instead of looking for any truth or understanding.
They had the right to be there, but there are many legal cases where taking footage becomes harassment, even in public places. This is their MO. Keep bugging people till they flip out. Glad they got it this time so we get a full picture of the fake narrative.
A follower of Christ.
Yes, I actually think Jesus will return. Soon.
Good luck with that...
About what I thought.
A religious zealot.
Funny to me that religious zealots will follow donald into hell.
That you all think he is some kind of savior...
What is the Judas Priest song? You got another thing cummin.
If he does come back, he is going to be totally pissed off and I would not blame him one little bit.
I suppose you can provide proof or are you having hallucinations?
Expertly given by the left.
Yup the liberals and the Democrats are doing just that. It's one of the stocks in trade.
Not at the moment, but I'm working on it. Probably not the kind you have in mind, though.
Funny how much tunnel vision your sort has. You build this image in your mind of what kind of person it would take to vote for Trump and then apply it to all of them. As if we have little shrines to Trump in our houses or something.
I doubt you care, but I don't think Trump is a savior. There's only one and he's not him. Nor are the Republicans as a whole. I do believe, however, that he, and they, will do less damage to our country than the Democrats will. Since there are no other realistic options, Trump gets my vote.
Funny, I was thinking the same of you.
Ah, well, I'll be 58 in a few days so not much of a difference : )
Maybe, maybe not. I think I will be staying home come election night. The news is always using terms like "fear" and "terrified" when describing the mood of the nation concerning whatever disaster they're currently covering but I'm always wondering where the fear and terror are. But if Trump wins the election I'm actually scared about what may happen. Not terrified, exactly, but I think it's going to be bad. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I’m no dominionist either and I certainly believe in a 2nd coming of Jesus soon too.
Biden did say that America would not be safe during a Trump 2nd term. It sounded like a threat.
Kids. I remember how I was in the 60's
I've been a centrist for so long how do I know if I'm sliding into liberalism?
You are as much a centrist as I am!
So were a lot of other presidents and they did what they wanted to do when they became president. So you have not made your case.
The mayors have to answer for their own deeds. And I have not heard or seen where Biden has supported those "governments". In fact, he came out with an official statement against it.
Biden has been speaking out for months, but they deride his comments as coming "from his basement", so somehow they don't count the same as lying from the POTUS bully pulpit.
Thanks to the seeder for alerting us to the bullshit.
See comment 8.2
Get back to us when Biden grows a backbone. He is months late denouncing the violence. He will probably be months late figuring out if he won the election or not.
You think Biden is strong enough to do what he wants? Then why isn't he debating Trump? Outside of a few carefully orchestrated interviews with pro Biden media throwing him soft ball questions (that he still messes up); what has fearless Joe done outside of hide in his basement and let everyone else do the work for him?
Think that is going to change with him as POTUS? I am sure his handlers have very good control of him. He is going to make George Bush Jr look glorious by comparison when it comes to leadership.
Biden was VP for 8 years. Pretty sure he is smarter than Trump. Nuff said.
Can you translate this for me?
Good question. I didn't understand that at all [deleted]
if biden knew how to fix our country why didn't he tell obama?
why did trump have to set 50yr employment records for the black community?
why didn't Obiden do that?
You mean more demented and weak kneed than Trump. I will agree to that.
Notice what's being done.
They are telling us we have a choice in November between two loony groups of people who hate America.
Choose:
Antifa or QAnon
Sorry - I'm not interested in playing that game.
Because QAnon is so volatile. They are social media conspiracy theory nut jobs- which beats the hell out of BLM and Antifa.
Which one has more pull with with their respective political party?
QAnon has Trump- who retreats their quotes- not the rest of the Republican Party (who ignores them, and wishes they would go away- like the Tea Party did). Republicans can't stand Trump- he is not Establishment anymore; so the chances of QAnon getting any traction in government are nil.
Antifa and BLM have Democratic governors and mayors standing down police to allow them to riot, loot, and commit assault & arson. Democratic leaders in Congress and Biden have both issued strong support for BLM, and rejected that Antifa even exists- blaming right wing agitators instead (of course they have yet to find them). Democrats need the black vote desperately to defeat Trump; they also need the radical element in Antifa to actually vote for a change. They are caving to both group's demands.
Now which poses the greatest danger?
yet they can't name one city Q people have burned.
not even one....
they think Q people are more volatile than blm? today's left is simply too funny
Biden was VP for 8 years. Pretty sure he is smarter and more compassionate than Trump. Nuff said.