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If Biden Were a Republican

  

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Via:  s  •  4 years ago  •  40 comments

If Biden Were a Republican
Mr. Biden, President Obama said of you, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.” If the person you worked most closely with considers you a foul-up, why should the American people entrust you with the highest position in the republic?

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Here’s what the press would be asking the former veep.

M r. Biden , you have a   history   of cultivating disturbingly close relationships with white supremacists.

As segregationists were dying off in the 1970s, you went out of your way to be pals with them, then bragged about it. You once called notorious segregationist Senator Strom Thurmond “one of my closest friends.” In 1988, when you were mounting a run for president that collapsed when your multiple acts of plagiarism came to light, you deployed a dog whistle when you bragged that the arch-racist former Alabama governor George Wallace had given you a leadership award in 1973. Also in 1988 you noted approvingly that the press would refer to you and Thurmond as the “marvelous marriage” and “the odd couple.” You later delivered a eulogy at Thurmond’s funeral in 2003.

You once told Mississippi senator John Stennis, a racist opponent of school desegregation, that you viewed him as a “hero” and were honored to take over his office after he retired. In 2010 you gave a eulogy at the funeral of Senator Robert Byrd, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan whom you called “a dear friend.” As recently as 2008 you were still bragging that you had “deep personal relationships” with segregationist senators James Eastland, Stennis, and Thurmond, and said, “All these men became my friends.” As recently as 2016 you fondly recalled that you welcomed the assistance of Stennis in one of your Senate reelection campaigns even though Stennis once said, “Those who would mix little children of both races in our schools are following an illegal, immoral, and sinful doctrine.” Isn’t your record of supporting these avowed white supremacists disturbing, disgusting, and disqualifying?

Mr. Biden, President Obama   said   of you, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.” If the person you worked most closely with considers you a foul-up, why should the American people entrust you with the highest position in the republic?

Mr. Biden, Obama also   said   of you, “You know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.” Like the foul-up remark, this has never been denied by Obama. Obama also waited until you had effectively clinched the nomination to endorse you. Even when an avowed socialist appeared to be in the lead to be the Democratic Party nominee, Obama said nothing in your support. When you considered running for president in 2016, Obama sent an emissary to talk you out of it, and that was when you were still in your early seventies. Isn’t the tardiness of Obama’s support for you a red flag that suggests you are deeply unsuited for the toughest job on earth?

Mr. Biden, at a presidential debate, you said of your son Hunter, “My son did nothing wrong.” Do you not understand the blatant conflict involved with having a son on the board of a Ukrainian energy company, who was seemingly paid for his connections to you at a time when you,   according to   the   New Yorker   magazine, were “playing a central role in overseeing U.S. policy in Ukraine”? Are you seriously arguing that Hunter Biden was hired by the Ukrainians and paid $3.4 million for his energy expertise, of which he has none, rather than as a backdoor way of influencing you and United States policy toward Ukraine?

A former official in the Obama White House told the   New Yorker   about the Ukraine matter there was a perception that “Hunter was on the loose, potentially undermining his father’s message.” This same person said Hunter should have realized that at least some of the overseas business interests who were paying him did so because they wanted “to be able to say that they are affiliated with Biden.” Moreover, one of your own former business associates told the   New Yorker , “The appearance of a conflict of interest is good enough, at this level of politics, to keep you from doing things like that.” Reports   say   Hunter Biden was paid an astounding $83,000 a month by this Ukrainian company while you were vice president. Will you apologize to the American people for corruptly allowing your cocaine-abusing son to profit from your office as vice president?

Mr. Biden, in December 2013 you took your son Hunter with you on Air Force Two to China, where he promptly introduced you to a businessman named Jonathan Li. Li’s company later gave Hunter a 10 percent stake in an investment fund that now manages some $2 billion. A White House official you worked with told the   New Yorker   the administration said it appeared that Hunter “was leveraging access for his benefit, which just wasn’t done in that White House. Optics really mattered.” How could you allow this to happen?

Mr. Biden, another Chinese businessman, a billionaire named Ye Jianming, was partners with Hunter on a natural-gas business in Louisiana and   also gave   Hunter a very large diamond. Ye’s deputy was later arrested in New York on charges of bribing government officials, charges on which he was later convicted. His first call, according to the   New York Times , was to your younger brother Jimmy. He also tried to reach Hunter. Do you think you are entitled to allow your family members to profit from your name and connections?

Mr. Biden, while you were vice president in 2010 your brother Jimmy, who had no experience in the construction industry, nevertheless   formed   a construction company that a few months later was granted a $1.5 billion contract to build housing in Iraq. Isn’t this part of a long pattern of Biden family corruption?

Mr. Biden, in a recent interview Hillary Clinton   said   “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances.” Do you repudiate this chilling threat to our democratic order and should you lose, will you vow to concede defeat, call for peace and acceptance, and emphasize to your supporters that Donald Trump continues to be the duly elected president of the United States?

Mr. Biden, you have not released medical records since 2008. Dr. David Scheiner, who was Barack Obama’s personal physician for many years, reviewed your records and   said , “He’s not a healthy guy.” On day one of your presidency, should you win, you will be 13 years past retirement age and older than any man has ever been at any point while holding that office. This fall you have on many occasions “called a lid,” or shut down all operations for the day, by 9   a.m.  Shouldn’t the American people be worried about your health and your lack of transparency about it? Can you really say with a straight face that you have the stamina for the world’s toughest job when you keep retiring for the day at 9   a.m. ?

Mr. Biden, there’s been a lot of discussion in Washington about breaking norms these last few years. You have repeatedly refused to answer whether you would sign a bill that would upend the structure of the Supreme Court as we know it and shatter a 151-year norm. You pointed out just last year that if one party added seats to the Supreme Court, the opposing party would naturally be able to do the same and therefore the Supreme Court would become just a political plaything. By not forswearing the various extremist schemes to pack the Supreme Court, don’t you constitute by far the greatest threat to American norms in memory?

Mr. Biden, on January 31, the day President Trump announced his partial shutdown on travel from China, you   said , “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia to, uh, and fear-mongering.” When Trump extended the travel restrictions to Europe you said, “A wall will not stop the coronavirus. Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.” This suggests that you opposed even partial shutdowns of travel from overseas while the virus was raging through the United States. It wasn’t till the catastrophically late date of April 3 that you finally conceded the travel restrictions were a good idea. Wouldn’t your poor judgment and irrational fear of so-called xenophobia have cost many more Americans their lives?

Mr. Biden, you opposed Operation Desert Storm, one of America’s most successful overseas military actions in recent generations, yet voted for the 2003 Iraq War, which did not go as well. You then opposed the Iraq War surge in 2007, which restored a great deal of order to the region. You then   opposed   the action to assassinate Osama bin Laden in 2011, and lied about it afterwards. President Obama’s first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, even said in an interview that you were “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” Shouldn’t your long record of colossal blunders in foreign policy be deeply alarming to the American people?

Mr. Biden, you finished   near the bottom   of your class at Syracuse Law School, you rely heavily on teleprompters in public appearances and yet you still frequently stumble over the most basic facts, asserting for example that   150 million   Americans had died of gun violence or that   200 million   Americans had died of COVID-19. How will you prove to the American people that you are cognitively capable of handling the demands of the world’s most demanding office?


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Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

Always interesting to imagine we had a fair press who took the same approach to both candidates...

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    4 years ago

Me too.  "What's in it for them."

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    4 years ago

We haven’t had that since 1956...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    4 years ago

Always interesting to imagine we had a Republican Party that is honest about their candidate. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.3.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3    4 years ago

Always interesting to imagine we had a Democrat Party that is honest about their true core values.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
1.3.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3    4 years ago

“Always interesting to imagine we had a Republican Party that is honest about their candidate.”

Lol. Coming from a person who backs a party that nominated a person with dementia that is extremely rich in irony.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Gazoo @1.3.2    4 years ago

People who say Biden has dementia don't prove Biden has dementia, they prove they are ignorant. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
1.3.4  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.3    4 years ago

Ok john, so babbling incoherently is definitely not a sign of dementia?

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
1.3.5  bbl-1  replied to  Gazoo @1.3.4    4 years ago

You obviously are referring the Trump, right?

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
1.3.6  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.1    4 years ago
interesting to imagine we had a Democrat Party that is honest about their true core values.

that has become a moving target...  they seem to go further left by the day.

and that is the good news :)

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.3.7  arkpdx  replied to  bbl-1 @1.3.5    4 years ago

People babbling about Trump having dementia don't prove he has dementia. They just prove they are ignorant 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
1.3.8  bbl-1  replied to  arkpdx @1.3.7    4 years ago

Who ignorant?  The babbling Trump or his jelly spine babbling base? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.3.9  arkpdx  replied to  bbl-1 @1.3.8    4 years ago

From my perspective it is those that keep make stupid comments about Trump and his supporters

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.3.10  arkpdx  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.1    4 years ago

That's the problem MAGA. The democrat party has no values

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
1.4  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    4 years ago
Always interesting to imagine we had a fair press who took the same approach to both candidates

if only... 

sadly those days are long gone.

 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  seeder  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

President Obama’s first secretary of defense, Robert Gates, even said in an interview that you were “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” Shouldn’t your long record of colossal blunders in foreign policy be deeply alarming to the American people?

This doesn’t get talked about enough...

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    4 years ago

Didn't know that Obama was making foreign policy and national security decisions since he was twelve.  Damn.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1    4 years ago

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    4 years ago

Did.  Senators do not make foreign policy or national security decisions.  Although there may be instances when a Senator may have a say or vote on the matter.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.2    4 years ago
Snators do not make foreign policy or national security decisions. 

So much to unpack... Did you know Senators declare War, ratify treaties, authorize use of force etc?  Maybe you recall something happening in Iraq earlier this century (and last)? Might want to look and see if the Senate authorized those conflicts...

Did you know Joe Biden was VP?

Although, if the  best defense of Biden's 47 years in Washington is to claim he had nothing to do with foreign policy (odd for a former chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee), that's  more damning  than Obama's defense secretary's statement. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
2.1.4  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    4 years ago

Not on their own------------oh brilliant one.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
3  charger 383    4 years ago

            Mr. Biden, President Obama said of you, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.   

That is a very interesting thing Obama said

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 years ago

Charger, you do know that that quote is hearsay from an unnamed person, so really it means nothing:

Yet searing, anonymously sourced quotes from Obama kept appearing through the race. One Democrat who spoke to Obama recalled the former president warning, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.” Speaking of his own waning understanding of today’s Democratic electorate, especially in Iowa,  Obama told one 2020 candidate : “And you know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.”
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
3.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    4 years ago

I thought unnamed sources were okay..............

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bugsy
Professor Participates
3.1.3  bugsy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    4 years ago
I thought unnamed sources were okay..............

Only in the world of liberalism, especially if those imaginary sources toe the liberal narrative.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
3.1.4  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    4 years ago
you do know that that quote is hearsay from an unnamed person,

Wouldn't that be most the Trump articles posted by your left wing buddies? 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
3.1.5  bugsy  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.4    4 years ago

No, no, no KD...Perrie is "Independent" s/

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1.6  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1    4 years ago

Of all the anonymously sourced quotes on this site, this is the one you choose to dismiss, even though it's published by a very liberal publication?  Not surprised.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @3.1.5    4 years ago

Now here is a concept. Even independents vote for somebody. Last time I voted third party. This time I chose not to. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.1.6    4 years ago

Yes Sean, it is. Just like you, it doesn't serve my purposes. But unlike most, I am honest about it. And I don't care who publishes it. Everyone has an agenda, which includes that publication, you and me.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.2    4 years ago

In all honesty Jim, I don't like unnamed sources or hearsay. That was why I wasn't down with what happened with Kavanaugh. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.4    4 years ago

Now that is funny KD. The one thing you can say for Trump is that you don't need unnamed sources. He is his own continuous source of tweeted information.

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
3.1.11  Freewill  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.9    4 years ago
In all honesty Jim, I don't like unnamed sources or hearsay. That was why I wasn't down with what happened with Kavanaugh.

Perrie - I think perhaps they were referring to the more recent Atlantic story using unnamed sources who claimed that Trump made disparaging comments about dead US soldiers during his visit to France two years ago.  Both Biden and Harris used that specific story as though it were fact against Trump in the recent debates and continue to do so on the campaign trail.  I think we can all agree that both sides are using such sources and hearsay tactics more and more as the election approaches, throwing stuff out there to see what sticks, lather, rinse and repeat.  It is a nasty underhanded tactic no matter who uses it, in my opinion, especially when the media is enlisted to perpetuate it.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
3.1.12  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.10    4 years ago

This is your response? Wasn't the hot subject by the TDS sufferers that unnamed sources said President Trump disparaged the military that they carried on about for weeks or did I imagine it.  I must have missed your feelings on unnamed sources for that seed.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Freewill @3.1.11    4 years ago

I totally admit that both sides use unnamed sources... hence why I pointed to the most graphic case of Kavanaugh, where I actually took his side.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.1.14  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.12    4 years ago
Wasn't the hot subject by the TDS sufferers that unnamed sources said President Trump disparaged the military that they carried on about for weeks or did I imagine it.  I must have missed your feelings on unnamed sources for that seed.  

What you also seemed to miss, was that I was not on any of them, as I am on many articles, since I am usually busy with site issues. 

 
 
 
Freewill
Junior Quiet
3.1.15  Freewill  replied to  KDMichigan @3.1.12    4 years ago

Just saw a Biden campaign ad again during the football games last night using the "losers" and "suckers" unsubstantiated quotes from the Atlantic story which still has not been properly sourced or substantiated.  In fact, there is much more properly sourced evidence to the contrary indicating he never said that and that other "facts" in the story were proven to be incorrect (i.e. the reasons why he did not visit the first French cemetery, over two years ago now).  If this story were true, why is it only coming to light now when two years ago every story under the sun was dredged up during the effort to impeach Trump? 

Of course the ad ends with, "I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message"....

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
3.2  KDMichigan  replied to  charger 383 @3    4 years ago

You would think telling a union member that he doesn't work for him would have been enough to bury him. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  seeder  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

Just imagine if the media got a hold of Donald Jr emails and videos in a similar manner.

would media like the Times have waited one second, or two, to publish them?

 
 

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