Trump’s refusal to concede sets the stage for post-election crisis


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Via:  imt  •  3 weeks ago  •  32 comments

By:   Joseph Kishore, David North

Trump’s refusal to concede sets the stage for post-election crisis
While Trump is doing everything he can to remain in power and incite fascistic violence, Biden is responding with bromides and soporifics.

1] In what actions/events is Biden's 'worst nightmare' unfolding?

2] What major, new and permanent development is emerging from this contest?

3] What Democrat Party commitments preclude a genuine working class appeal?

4] Before mass unemployment, poverty and pandemic, what policies has the Democrat Party proposed?

5] How has the Democrat Party exposed Trump's false populism as a supposed working class fighter?

6] How will Biden approach political conflict in the coming weeks?

7] What political attitude must above all others be resisted?

8] If Biden is installed, what trajectory and actions will follow?

9] What lesson is to be learned from this election and its outcome?

10] What danger confronts the US working class, and what alone will defeat it?

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T

It appears that Democratic Party candidate Joe Biden is on the verge of winning enough states to be elected president of the United States. Media outlets announced during the day that he had won in Michigan and Wisconsin, and he appears likely to win in Nevada and Arizona, where he is currently leading. This would put him at the 270 electoral vote threshold, even if he does not win Pennsylvania, North Carolina or Georgia. In these three states, Trump is currently leading, but his lead is shrinking as mail-in ballots are counted.

However, what Biden had once described as his “worst nightmare”—that Trump would not accept his defeat at the polls—may, in fact, be unfolding.

In an extraordinary speech at the White House early Wednesday morning, Trump proclaimed himself the winner. “Frankly we did win this election,” he said. “So we’ll be going to the US Supreme Court. We want all voting to stop.” By an end to “voting,” Trump means a halt to the continued counting of mail-in ballots that were legally submitted.

Trump doubled down yesterday, declaring victory in a series of states that are still contested. “We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers), the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead,” he wrote. “Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact, there was a large number of secretly dumped ballots has been widely reported!”

The Trump campaign has already filed lawsuits in Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania to stop the counting of ballots and is demanding a recount in Wisconsin, which could take weeks to complete. He is hoping that legal challenges will end up in the Supreme Court, which now includes his most recent nominee, Amy Coney Barrett, rammed through without serious opposition from the Democratic Party only weeks ago. In the event of contested results, Republican state legislatures in states like Michigan could nominate their own pro-Trump electors.

Trump’s effort to challenge the results of the election is being accompanied by the mobilization of far-right forces. On Wednesday night, hundreds of Trump supporters, some armed with long guns, attempted to force their way into a vote-counting facility in Arizona.

The “Stop the Count” protests organized at Michigan election offices Wednesday afternoon are only a small indication of what is being planned. More demonstrations aimed at stopping the counting of ballots are planned today in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan, and pro-Trump demonstrators are expected in Arizona as well.

Whether or not he succeeds in the short term in staving off defeat—through a combination of legal challenges, right-wing protest demonstrations, threats and actual use of violence—Donald Trump, and the anti-constitutional fascistic movement whose growth he has been sponsoring, is not going to disappear from the political scene.

As the World Socialist Web Site has repeatedly warned since his attempted coup d’état last June, Trump’s political strategy has never been limited to purely electoral calculations. During the past three months, he has been campaigning more for the role of Führer than merely president. That fascistic campaign has not ended.

Even if the final vote tally goes against him, Trump and the movement developing around him will continue to play a major role in American politics. In a perceptive editorial published Wednesday, the British Financial Times wrote that Trump’s intention in declaring victory and challenging the counting of ballots “was not just to prejudge the result but to taint a President Biden (if the Democrat is elected as such) as illegitimate. He may yet succeed.”

The FT continued: “In a day of precious few certainties, all that can be said for sure is that America is not done with Mr. Trump (or perhaps it is the other way around). An election that seemed set to purge him from public life as a one-term aberration has given him a lasting and central role in it. Even if he cannot continue as president, he will become the voice of Republican opposition.”

Trump’s aggressive response to the election has been facilitated by the narrowness of Biden’s margin of victory, and that is assuming that the final vote totals give the former vice president the necessary 270 electoral votes.

Given the disastrous conditions that presently exist in the United States, the fact that Biden has barely managed to crawl across the finish line is in itself a devastating indictment of the campaign conducted by the Democratic Party. Not only is Biden’s own margin of victory (again, assuming that the present trend continues) paper thin, the Democrats’ nationwide performance is pathetic. They failed to make any headway in the senatorial elections and actually lost seats in the House of Representatives.

Even with a death toll of nearly 250,000 as a result of the Trump administration’s homicidal implementation of its “herd immunity” policy and unemployment rates at levels not seen since the Great Depression, the Biden campaign was so ineffectual that Trump was able to garner more than 68 million votes. One can only conclude that were it not for the pandemic, Trump would have won the election easily, and perhaps in a landslide.

The Democratic Party, a party of Wall Street, the intelligence agencies and the military, was organically incapable of appealing to the social interests of the working class. In relation to the pandemic, the Democrats proposed nothing outside of a national mask mandate to either stop the virus or deal with mass unemployment and poverty. In states like Wisconsin, which is currently an epicenter of the pandemic, Biden was able to increase his percentage of the vote only marginally compared to Clinton in 2016.

Far from seeking to expose Trump’s demagogy and the fraudulent character of his claim to represent the working class, the Democratic Party doubled down on its relentless promotion of race as the central and defining issue in American society. It did everything it could to encourage the empirically false and politically reactionary narrative that maligned the “white working class” as Trump’s natural and blindly devoted constituency.

Moreover, Biden, in the final weeks of the campaign, chose not to make an issue of Trump’s close association with and open encouragement of fascist violence against Democratic Party officials, including Governor Whitmer of Michigan.

While Trump is doing everything he can to remain in power and incite fascistic violence, Biden is responding with bromides and soporifics. In remarks delivered on Wednesday afternoon, Biden said that it was necessary to “put the harsh rhetoric of the campaign behind us, to lower the temperature.” He added, “To make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as enemies.”

Biden’s comments make clear how the Democrats will approach the political conflict in the coming weeks. Everything will be done to block mass popular opposition to Trump’s conspiracies. The Democrats want to prevent the emergence of opposition to Trump from threatening the interests of Wall Street and American imperialism.

If Biden does come to power in January, the Democrats will oversee a right-wing administration of austerity and militarism. They will immediately seek a political alliance with sections of the Republican Party and adapt themselves to the far right. A Biden administration will create the best conditions for the further growth of a far-right, fascistic movement, whether led by Trump or someone else.

In this situation, the most dangerous of all political attitudes is that of complacency. To believe that the political situation will return to “normal” is as realistic as the Biblical dream that “the wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid [young goat].”

Far from having settled the crisis, the election and its outcome are a warning. American democracy is in its death throes. The malignant social ulcers developing on the basis of staggering levels of inequality will not heal miraculously.

The danger that confronts the working class is a form of American authoritarianism, involving the military and police, portraying themselves as the defenders of “order,” in collaboration with fascistic elements.

This real political threat can be defeated, but this requires the development of a mass socialist movement of the working class, absolutely independent of the Democratic Party and its political agents.

The political analysis and program developed and advanced by the Socialist Equality Party throughout the 2020 election campaign have been proven correct. We urge supporters of our campaign and readers of the World Socialist Web Site to draw the essential political lessons of the events of the past year and make the decision to join and build the Socialist Equality Party.


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1  seeder  IMT    3 weeks ago

Plenty to discuss here. Hopefully, the questions can facilitate this. Address as many [or few] as you wish.

Dismayed Patriot
2  Dismayed Patriot    3 weeks ago

You have to admit it's pretty insane that Trump supporters in PA are shouting "Stop the count! Stop the count!" while the Trump supporters in AZ are shouting "Count those votes! Count those votes!"...

It would be hilarious if it wasn't such blatant partisan disregard and disrespect for democracy and free and fair elections.

2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2    3 weeks ago

Trump has tweeted twice today that the election is being stolen from him. In a sense, what else is he supposed to say?  He's a crook himself so naturally he thinks everyone else is too. 

It is very easy to verify a mail in vote, and to prevent someone from voting more than once. All it takes is time. As long as both Republican and Democratic election judges are verifying each vote there is no "fraud" issue. Trump will act like a baby until they drag him out of there on Jan 20. 

2.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2    3 weeks ago
blatant partisan disregard and disrespect for democracy and free and fair elections.

The Republican Party in a nuts shell, that continues to bounce off Trumps' Crooked Chin, ups the Tensions, as reality continues to be on Suspension, and the reduction of the counting of every legal vote, is the GOP's intention, with a possible few other points to mention. Gerrymandering and new stricter restrictions and requirements at the polls, leave the GOPeein in the wind on the improperly educated and/or easily manipulated. Malleable minions who have been given their pre shaped opinions, and continue to be unable to realize the actual true truth hidden right in front of their own eyes that are unable to read that the Red, isn't always the actual words stated and said, just colorful words to mask the actual Truth, which remains aloof, cause as it is stated proof, of how so much is made of that which is unrelated, to actual voter fraud and illegal votes as the gop has stated while not related, all while they are not 'kidding' with that which 'Goats', milked from the udder side, is what tops and at the bottom of any Lying Lion pride, see voter non-participation as Trump famously stated, just more "pussy's' to Grab" , or for Trump the Lion Lying proud of No Pride, is given more backs to Stab, as the United States just keeps putting more and more Debt, on our children and their children's Tab, and since Trump is in all ways Russian, one must wonder, did he just hastily leave another Method of Madness Lab, or never recover from that concussion...?

Dismayed Patriot
2.2.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2    3 weeks ago
The Republican Party in a nuts shell, that continues to bounce off Trumps' Crooked Chin

I expected the nearly 10 million more votes for Biden than Hillary got in 2016, what I didn't expect was that there would actually be more people voting for Trump in 2020 than there were in 2016. I predicted Biden would get 10 million more in the popular vote but it looks like he's only going to get about 5 million more popular votes.

Apparently for some Americans, a law-abiding President may not be as good as a President who is willing to give them more exclusive benefits. Millions were willing to sell their souls for a chance to ban abortion or stack the courts with more religious conservative judges.

2.2.2  MUVA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.2.1    3 weeks ago

I know why you thought that you have been lied to so often you believe the lies the media tells you take this as a lesson.

2.2.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  MUVA @2.2.2    3 weeks ago
I know why you thought that you have been lied to so often you believe the lies the media tells you

Yes, it is only the 'media' that lies to US. Politicians have always been known as the purest of the peoples, and we all know, Trump would NEVER LIE to US, now would he....?

Dismayed Patriot
2.2.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @2.2.3    3 weeks ago

There are a lot of lies and liars in media, they're just mostly gathered in right wing media. Some individual media companies within the MSM can make mistakes at times but it quickly gets corrected by the rest of the MSM as they fact check themselves as often as they do right wing media. It's why companies like CNN fired three journalists when they got to presumptuous online over the Steele dossier. Right wing media would never fire one of their talking heads for being presumptuous or even out right lying, they just claim it's not a lie because "up is down, backwards is forwards, Monica Lewinsky, Benghazi, Obama secret gay Kenyan Muslim socialist, Democrats eat babies, the end". In bizarro religious conservative world they make their own reality so trying to debate facts and reason with them is futile.

Trout Giggles
3  Trout Giggles    3 weeks ago

He can't concede until there is a clear winner. So far we don't have one. Nobody has the mandatory 270 EC votes

4  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

I don't think Trump should concede until the states are called . 

Let him sweat in his own juices. 

5  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

No one should be conceding yet. And I don't have a problem with both sides wanting to observe vote-counting. However, the "stop the vote" stuff is weird. That doesn't make any sense.

6  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
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For those who don't know, Scott Adams is the cartoonist who created Dilbert .  Later in life he turned into a far right libertarian crackpot who admires Trump. 
I dont know who the other guy is. 
7  Gazoo    3 weeks ago

No way he should concede, especially with all the sketchy crap going on.

Dismayed Patriot
7.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gazoo @7    3 weeks ago
with all the sketchy crap going on

What "sketchy crap"? The only "sketchy crap" I've seen are Trump surrogates claiming voter fraud without ANY evidence. They are trying to create distrust to bamboozle gullible folk into believing there is sketchy crap going on but give ZERO evidence, yet it's apparently working on some.

7.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1    3 weeks ago

all one has to do is look. [deleted]

7.1.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Gazoo @7.1.1    3 weeks ago
all one has to do is look. Bu

look at WHAT..?

lady in black
7.1.3  lady in black  replied to  Gazoo @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Prove there is voter fraud...oh wait, you can't...all talk

Dismayed Patriot
7.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.1.2    3 weeks ago
look at WHAT..?

Perhaps he's like that kid in 6th Sense... "I see voter fraud..." , "Where?" … "Everywhere..." (said in low whisper)…

7.1.5  Gazoo  replied to  lady in black @7.1.3    3 weeks ago


7.1.6  Gazoo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.4    3 weeks ago


lady in black
7.1.7  lady in black  replied to  Gazoo @7.1.1    3 weeks ago

Still can't prove voter fraud, all you can do is insult people

7.1.8  Gazoo  replied to  lady in black @7.1.7    3 weeks ago

All i did was throw others words back at them. [Deleted]

7.1.9  Ender  replied to  lady in black @7.1.7    3 weeks ago

Psst. I heard it on fox news.....

7.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  Ender @7.1.9    3 weeks ago

Actually, Fox news has also said there's no evidence of election fraud.  The biggest rat seems to be jumping ship.

7.1.11  Ender  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.1.10    3 weeks ago

A little surprised. I admit I didn't watch it for long. I turned on hannity for as long as I could stand it last night, he was going off.

7.1.12  Kathleen  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.1.10    3 weeks ago

So you can comment and moderate at the same time?

I thought you couldn’t on the same article.

7.1.13  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kathleen @7.1.12    3 weeks ago

I can no longer moderate on this thread.

Hal A. Lujah
8  Hal A. Lujah    3 weeks ago

I wonder how many times over the last four years right wingers on NT claimed that someone on the left was just mad that Hillary lost, as a response to any cogent argument we made about anything, ever.  Look at them now, before the votes are even done being counted.  Talk about butt hurt.  

Paula Bartholomew
9  Paula Bartholomew    3 weeks ago

Who cares if he concedes or not.  Biden would still be the winner even if Trump never concedes.  He can piss, moan, and cry as he is being escorted out of the WH.

10  sandy-2021492    3 weeks ago

Trump shouldn't concede yet.

That being said, concession isn't a legal necessity for the election results to be binding.  It's just tradition.

A few days ago, NPR played a sample of past concessions speeches.  All were eloquent, and most referred to unification of the American population as one nation, with good wishes for the new President-elect and his administration.  Five bucks says Trump's concession speech, if he even gives one, will be full of whining, conspiracy theories, and self-aggrandizement.

10.1  Ender  replied to  sandy-2021492 @10    3 weeks ago

It would all be about how the Democrats cheated and the deep state out to get him...

lady in black
11  lady in black    3 weeks ago



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