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Reports of the Republican Party's death are not greatly exaggerated

  

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Via:  jbb  •  4 years ago  •  54 comments

By:   James E. Garcia (Arizona Mirror)

Reports of the Republican Party's death are not greatly exaggerated
The Republican Party may not be dead yet, but it's probably time to put it out of our misery as it's now a Trump personality cult.

Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?


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By James E. Garcia - September 4, 2020
Last Updated: September 4, 2020 8:05 am
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The Republican Party may not be dead yet, but it's probably time to put it out of our misery.

That was the assessment of a gaggle of former and disenchanted members of the GOP who recently gathered for a virtual roundtable hosted by Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart on MSNBC.

The conversation, which basically asked out loud whether the Republican Party has sold its soul to President Trump, was jaw-dropping not so much for what was said but for who was saying it.

Take Michael Steele . He's a former chair of the Republican National Committee who, in 2010, helped lead his party's takeover of the House of Representatives. Steele is no lightweight, no radical, no socialist and nobody's fool, but on the eve of the Republican National Convention he endorsed Democrat Joe Biden over Trump in the race for the White House.

To those in the GOP who insist on sticking with Trump, Steele is unforgiving.

"I've been a Republican for over 40 years," he said. "I'll be damned if I'm going to cede that ground to Donald Trump, who is not now nor has he ever been a Republican, who is not now nor has he ever been a conservative. All y'all who want to play this little game that Donald Trump is like you, you're stupid. You're being played. You're getting punked. But what's so bad about it is you're complicit in your own punking."

While Trump's takeover of the party now seems complete, the president's overtly white nationalist agenda has been a dominant part of the GOP's genetic makeup for decades, according Stuart Stevens, a ex-Republican and author of the new book " It was All a Lie ."

Stevens calls the GOP's stance on race "the original Republican sin."

"What happens if you spend decades focused on appealing to white voters and treating non-white voters with, at best, benign neglect? You get good at doing what it takes to appeal to white voters," he said.

Ex-Republican Congressman David Jolly , who represented Florida's 13th congressional district from 2014 to 2017, told Capehart the GOP under Trump has become "an association of largely white populists with an angry anti-government grievance agenda, with little nod toward policy."

Steele, who is Black, said the party's attitude towards Blacks, Latinos and other non-white Americans traces back to the GOP's infamous Southern Strategy, which Republicans used to recruit disgruntled white Democrats to its ranks after the passage of the Civil Rights Act.

U.S. Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona, who voted against the Civil Rights Act, used it during his 1964 run for the White House against President Lyndon Johnson. Three years earlier at a Republican conference in Georgia, Goldwater bragged to his audience that Arizona was " Confederate country ," adding, "We're not going to get the Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 or 1969, so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are."

But scholars say it was R ichard Nixon who " perfected " the use of the Southern Strategy in 1968 and 1972 by "turning the solidly Democratic South into a bastion of Republicanism." President Ronald Reagan, who launched his campaign championing " states' rights " at the Neshoba County Fair in Mississippi, was another Southern Strategy adherent.

Stevens said the party's inability to attract more non-white voters, despite the country's growing diversity, is helping fuel its demise.

"Of Americans 15 years and under, the majority is non-white," he said, "and odds are really good that they're going to turn 18 and still be non-white. What does that mean for the Republican party? It's a death sentence as currently constructed."

At the same time, the party has cast aside many of its so-called traditional conservative values, such as federal debt reduction, smaller government, and its veneration for the U.S. Constitution, the panelists said.

"How do you abandon deeply held beliefs about character, personal responsibility, foreign policy, and the national debt in a matter of months?" Stevens opines in his book. "You don't. The obvious answer is those beliefs weren't deeply held. In the end, the Republican Party rallied behind Donald Trump because if that was the deal to regain power [after the Obama Administration], what was the problem? Because it had always been about power. The rest? The principles. The values. It was all a lie."

Long suspicious of the communist totalitarianism of former Soviet Union, most Republican leaders have turned a blind eye to Trump's obsequiousness to Russian President Vladimir Putin, a one time KGB chief who U.S. intelligence authorities say is working hard to ensure that Trump stays in the White House, much as he did in 2016.

Tom Nichols, a former Republican congressional staffer and now a columnist for USA Today , told the panel the president's followers have given up on the nation's democratic ideals. "(The GOP) is now dominated by Donald Trump and people who've bent the knee to Donald Trump, and once you do that, once you've betrayed the Constitution, there is no coming back."

If the Republican Party does manage to survive Trumpism, Jolly predicts it could take at least a generation for the GOP to recoup its credibility.

"I don't believe a Republican Party under this generation of Republican leaders, my former colleagues, is one that can be trusted," Jolly said. "One of the reasons I left is because I realized I can never trust these colleagues again."

Nichols is even more cynical. To those clinging to a sentimental attachment to the GOP, Nichols said, "We all loved Old Yeller, but at some point you have to take Old Yeller behind the barn and put him down."


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

Trumpism is a death knell for the republican party...

Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

Seems reasonably intelligent people could tell that the GOP is alive and doing alright.

Picked up House seats after Nancy bragged how many more seats the Dems would win, only to lose seats.

I guess America rejected an all-Democrat-run government.

People who have declared the GOP dead have been proven every single time.

This will be no damn different.

The only thing that changes is the people who declare the GOP dead without understanding and comprehension of politics--those that rely on MSNBC and CNN for all their news.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    4 years ago

Oh, that must be the Big Blue Wave Democrats were braying about.

Pity the "tsunami" wasn't even enough to flood the kiddie pool!

LMAO!

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    4 years ago

Biden got the most votes of any candidate in history. Even more than Obama. Over eighty million. Trump lost by a landslide...

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TᵢG
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1.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    4 years ago
I guess America rejected an all-Democrat-run government.

Looks like Trump was fired but a divided government was left to serve as a check against Biden.   Pending GA of course.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.3    4 years ago

So it is Biden's fault the Big Blue Tsunami crapped out?

LOL!

I wonder why such a stellar leader as Biden couldn't carry Democrats to victory?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.6  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.5    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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1.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.6    4 years ago

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JBB
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1.1.8  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.7    4 years ago

Have you ever wondered if maybe you could have worked for Trump in the White House?

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Texan1211
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1.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.8    4 years ago

Nope, never.

Is that on your Christmas wish list?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.9    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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1.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.10    4 years ago

So how did the GOP pick up House seats?

Can you explain THAT?

Or just going to continue to ignore facts that fly in the face of your fantasy about the death of the GOP?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.12  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.11    4 years ago

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JBB
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2  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

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JBB
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3  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3.1  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @3    4 years ago

So a dumbass and two criminals got reelected.

Says everything you need to know about the American voter.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @3.1    4 years ago

The gop lost. Trump lost. You can't spin that...

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Texan1211
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3.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.1    4 years ago

He didn't try to spin anything, that is just your vivid imagination playing tricks on you again.

Say, why didn't Democrats increase their House majority--especially when Democratic nominee Biden received the most votes in history? Seems like the Dems should have swept the elections, or at least held the seats they had instead of losing seats.

How on earth DID a dead party beat the Democrats anywhere? Are you telling me Democrats can't even beat a dead party now?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.2    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.3    4 years ago

How did Democrats lose seats in the House?

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.4    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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3.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.5    4 years ago

Hey, I'm up for THAT!

Let's ask these folks first, mmkay?

Doug Jones, Harley Rouda, Gil Cisneros, Donna Shalala, Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, Abby Finkenauer , Collin Peterson, Kendra Horn, Xochitl Torres Small, Joe Cunningham, and Ben McAdams.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.6    4 years ago

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bbl-1
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4  bbl-1    4 years ago

Trump may be done, but are the MAGA?

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  bbl-1 @4    4 years ago

There are still the leftovers...512

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    4 years ago

I think that what is going to happen in Georgia in January is going to tell the story, and if not then, in 2022.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    4 years ago

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Greg Jones
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5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    4 years ago

Republicans take back the House, add a few seats in the Senate.

Democrats did badly in down ballot races in just about every state.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    4 years ago

I don't think reality has sunk in yet.

They think the GOP is dead, but fail to recognize what just happened.

Biden got the most votes in history, yet the Democrats lost seats down-ballot.

Maybe they think that is normal?

If the GOP did that being a dead party, what do they think would have happened if the GOP was alive?

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2    4 years ago

Trump will not be on the ballot to bring out the gop so Democrats will gain seats like in 2018 and probably sweep the Senate races...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    4 years ago

I guess you don't know that some Democrats lost their seats in districts that Biden won!

LMAO!

And you still think that not having Trump on the ballot is going to help THOSE Democrats?

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GregTx
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5.2.4  GregTx  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    4 years ago

No, Biden/Harris will be. We'll see how that works out.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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5.2.6  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.2    4 years ago
Trump will not be on the ballot to bring out the gop so Democrats will gain seats like in 2018 and probably sweep the Senate races..

Aren't you one of those parroting about how Democrats win when they get the vote out? Didn't more people vote in these elections than ever before--which would make Democrats winners--right?

Or is that another bold prediction not panning out again?

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.6    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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6  Texan1211    4 years ago

Before claiming the GOP dead (yet once again), perhaps the Democrats should learn to nail the coffin shut before attempting to bury it, because somehow Republicans are still winning elections.

Elections Democrats were sure they were going to win.

Or at least the Democrats should learn from their recent declarations of the GOP death knell, which keeps getting proven wrong every time they bleat this total nonsense.

People believing this crap must not be grounded in reality, have any knowledge of politics and political cycles, or memory of all the times they have previously been wrong.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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6.1  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @6    4 years ago

I think people like you (a Trump supporter, right?) first need to find another R leader.   You should drop-kick Trump as he does to individuals that no longer serve his needs. 

Trump could —if a large mass of his supporters stick with him— do serious harm to the R party.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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6.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  TᵢG @6.1    4 years ago
Trump could —if a large mass of his supporters stick with him— do serious harm to the R party.

It is totally amazing to me, that he hasn't done far greater damage already. I find it down right, up left, fck N A fascinating, that a "party" could celebrate such a LOSER as all his defendants are non stop excuse rs, of the Party of Losers, which is not a Surprise, party, cause watt is illuminating, is the trappin and the baiting, of peep holes securely impaired, in the fruit of a Loom, loin clothed sleuth like buffoon amongst any and all Le Gummes,  asz peopel need more carrots to see, others need more Q, Tips, to hear the Q'nanon voices, as their very cold hearts can't feel the mind knumbing panes, of those still not ready to blame, the g o p  and a cult of personalties that makes a simple Sybil look a like a semimsane sister, or has been what, the knumb skulls feared and mist her, here, now, lettuce begin to say Grace and Prey, to show we Are coordinated N word up, that all will be still in porcelain  pedastools', peddled by purveyors of proof positive , Trumppy can do know harm, with the acception,     the acception that the gop, the gop Negativeness and Nasty, should be the party buzz kill, to kill all others poetic pathetic path pthe

 
 
 
JBB
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6.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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6.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2    4 years ago

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the GOP is so damn near death they may never win an election again, right?

Oh wait, didn't they just win some elections--some elections Democrats spent millions on and were sure to win?

I love it when political neophytes pretend one party is dead based on ONE election for ONE office. It is cute and entertaining!

 
 
 
JBB
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6.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.1    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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6.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.2.2    4 years ago

Can you explain how Democrats lost House seats, or are you still pretending they didn't--you know, because how could your favorites lose to dead people?

And didn't Democrats get the most overall popular votes for House seats--which you always claim is so important?

 
 
 
JBB
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Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    4 years ago
Is it any wonder that the once Grand Old Party of Abraham Lincoln is now known merely as the gop?

Is it? What is this supposed to mean? The abbreviation "GOP" dates to the 1880s. [deleted]

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @7    4 years ago

"gop" is that nasty brown sticky substance usually found at the very bottom of a filthy refrigerator...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7.1    4 years ago
"gop" is that nasty brown sticky substance usually found at the very bottom of a filthy refrigerator...

And yet, Democrats lost seats to the GOP.

Amazing, isn't it?!?!

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.1    4 years ago

This is an image of gop in case you didn't know.

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7.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @7.1.2    4 years ago

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