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The U.S. Navy Wasted A Whole Decade Building Bad Ships

  

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Via:  flynavy1  •  3 years ago  •  16 comments

By:   David Axe (Forbes)

The U.S. Navy Wasted A Whole Decade Building Bad Ships
The U.S. Navy spent a decade in the early 2000s building ships that either don't work, cost too much to build in large numbers or whose designs are fundamentally flawed on a conceptual level.

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The U.S. Navy spent a decade in the early 2000s building warships that either don't work, cost too much to build in large numbers or whose designs are fundamentally flawed on a conceptual level. Or all three.

These floating lemons include the speedy, inshore Littoral Combat Ship and the huge, under-equipped DDG-1000 "stealth" destroyers.

Historians might spend decades debating exactly what drove Navy leaders to pour billions of dollars into these ships for precious little return on their investment.

But at least one historian already has a pretty good idea what went wrong. "DDG-1000 and LCS came out of the moment of change and transformation, almost as if, absent a real strategic threat, that change would be our strategy," said Jerry Hendrix, author of the new book To Provide and Maintain a Navy.

In other words, the Navy got away with building bad ships because it didn't seem to matter all that much whether a particular vessel design actually worked in the real world. Whether anyone would admit it, the stakes felt that low.

The problem is, the stakes weren't actually low in the 2000s. While the U.S. Navy treaded water on its fleet design and force structure, the Russian and Chinese navies designed sound, affordable ships—and began building them in large numbers. The Americans' lost decade allowed the Russians and Chinese to catch up to U.S. sea power.

As conceived in the late 1990s, the LCS was supposed to be cheap, fast, flexible and easy to build. But after spending $30 billion over a period of around two decades, the Navy managed to acquire just 35 of the 400-foot vessels.

The fleet is already proposing to discard the oldest four LCSs—two each from both variants of the type. Meanwhile, the monohull Freedom variant has continued to suffer major problems related to its complex combined diesel-gas propulsion. It's not uncommon for a Freedom-variant LCS to set sail on a long-planned cruise, only to quickly break down and limp back to port.

The LCS's finicky plug-and-play weaponry and sensors, controversial and inadequate manning scheme and poor reliability have translated into a general inability to deploy. The Navy commissioned the first LCS in 2008. Thirteen years later, 20 of the ships are in service. Fifteen more are under construction.

But through last year, the fleet managed to deploy the type just eight times—once in 2013, 2014 and 2016 and five times between 2019 and late 2020.

To put that in perspective, the Navy has 68 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. At any given time, at least 20 of them are on six-month deployments. If the LCSs sailed at the same rate the Burkes do, six or seven of the smaller vessels would be on a front-line cruise at any given time for a total of at least a dozen LCS deployments annually.

The LCS's problems are myriad. The most serious of the type's flaws is rooted in its requirements. Bizarrely, the Navy insisted the LCS be capable of reaching a top speed of more than 40 knots, which is around 10 knots faster than most warships are capable of traveling.

The speed requirement forced contractors Lockheed Martin LMT and Austal to install efficient diesel engines for low-speed cruising plus powerful gas turbines for sprinting. These dual propulsion systems are expensive, complex, heavy and—as multiple underway engineering casualties have demonstrated—unreliable.

The kicker is that no one has ever proved the actual value of a 40-knot sprinting speed in any conceivable combat scenario for a vessel as large as the LCS is. A 500-mile-per-hour missile doesn't care if its target is traveling 40 knots or 30 knots. "Do I really need a Littoral Combat Ship to go 40 knots?" Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday asked last year.

Why was the Navy willing to risk so much time, money and opportunity on what amounted to an experiment in adding a one-third speed boost to one new class of ship?

Because it believed it was safe to tinker. "It was a widely held view that in the 1990s, the United States was in a historically unique, post-Cold War, 'strategic pause,'" Mark Czelusta wrote in a 2008 paper for the Pentagon's George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies.

Candidate George W. Bush, in a 1999 speech, helped to define expectations for this strategic pause. "My goal is to take advantage of a tremendous opportunity—given few nations in history—to extend the current peace into the far realm of the future," Bush said. "This opportunity is created by a revolution in the technology of war. Power is increasingly defined, not by mass or size, but by mobility and swiftness."

The LCS as a concept was nothing if not mobile and swift. Legitimized by the political establishment, the LCS became a kind of cipher—an empty vessel for containing various half-baked ideas. Consider the following 2004 assertion by future deputy defense secretary Bob Work.

"The LCS is less of a ship, and more of a battle network component system, consisting of a sea frame, a core crew, assorted mission modules, assembled mission packages, mission package crews and a reconfiguration support structure."

In short, the Navy spent a decade investing a succession of weird ideas in an unsound ship design. Leaders seemed to assume these ideas somehow would erase the fundamental problems with the very things that make the LCS a warship: its engines, weapons and crewing.

That created an opportunity for the Chinese and Russian navies. All they had to do to catch up to the U.S. Navy, while the U.S. Navy was wasting time and money on the LCS, was build ships that worked. That is, conventional, 30-knot vessels with built-in radars, missiles and guns and big crews.

Those ships—Russia's new Project 22350 frigates and and China's new Type 052 destroyers and Type 055 cruisers, among others—are fairly old-fashioned by the standards of the LCS. But they apparently aren't exorbitantly expensive. And Russia and China have been able to build them in large numbers, year after year—and then deploy them.

The LCS wasn't the U.S. Navy's only failure of the 2000s. The Zumwalt-class destroyer, or DDG-1000, proved equally catastrophic.

Work began on the Zumwalt class during the same strategic pause that produced the LCS. The goal was to develop a large, heavily armed and highly survivable ship. But over a decade, the concept changed. With the Navy briefly focusing more on near-shore warfare, the Zumwalt evolved into a stealthy fire-support vessel sporting powerful 155-millimeter cannons.

Costs rose. The Navy cut the class down from 32 ships to just three. But the research-and-development overhead contributed to the three ship's enormous, per-vessel cost of nearly $8 billion, which is four times as much as the latest Arleigh Burke-class destroyers cost.

The 610-foot Zumwalts feature low-signature "tumblehome" hulls. Their missile-launch cells are along their outer hulls and double as armor. Their 155-millimeter guns are more powerful than are the 127-millimeter models on other surface ships.

But the ships have problems beside their high cost. They lack a volume-search radar. Their guns are incompatible with the Navy's standard ammunition. Efforts to develop custom, precision-guided shells have failed on account of the low quantity and resulting high price. Today the Zumwalts lack any ammunition for their guns.

The Navy in 2018 decided to convert the Zumwalts into anti-ship platforms by integrating SM-6 and Tomahawk missiles. The SM-6 is a long-range surface-to-air missile that also can strike ships.

But the fleet is struggling to figure out what to do with such a tiny class of ship. With just three Zumwalts, the Navy might be able to deploy one at any given time. But it's unclear whether the destroyers with their lopsided capabilities fit with existing carrier and amphibious groups.

While it mulls the deployability problem, the Navy has assigned the Zumwalts to an experimental squadron in San Diego. The destroyers are test assets for now. It wouldn't be shocking if they remained test assets forever.

On paper, the LCSs and Zumwalts pad the Navy's force structure, contributing to the fleet's official inventory of 296 front-line warships. In reality, the LCSs and Zumwalts as classes aren't reliably deployable.

The Navy might have 296 combat vessels, in theory. In practice, it has no more than 274 front-line ships that it actually can plan major operations around.

We can blame a decade of complacency, during which the Navy experimented—at tremendous expense—with bad ship designs and worse theories of warfare, all while secure in its wrong belief that no foreign fleet could challenge it, then or in the near future.


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FLYNAVY1
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1  seeder  FLYNAVY1    3 years ago

Some have said, and I agree that:

"The LCS was conducting littoral combat against the United States, by clogging up the shipyards, taking over precious pier space, usurping inordinate amounts of maintenance (and acquisition) dollars, and preventing useful ships (NSC's, DDGs, etc.) from performing their own (useful) missions, while delivering no value to the taxpayers."

 
 
 
Kavika
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2  Kavika     3 years ago

That quote seems to hit the mark on the head. 

The Chinese navy had planned for four Aircraft carriers after the second one they cancelled the next two. There reasoning was that they were not worth the money in today's naval combat. Instead they have developed missiles that are named aircraft killers. 

We spent I believe it was around $12 billion on the last aircraft carrier. 

 
 
 
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2.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Kavika @2    3 years ago

We spent I believe it was around $12 billion on the last aircraft carrier. 

And counting Kavika......

They got the bugs worked out of the launch and recovery equipment, but the ammunition elevators are only half working on the Ford. 

China decided to build artificial islands in the South China Sea rather than carriers.  Harder to sink.  It all worked into them having less of a need to project power across the world as where as the US is still an island nation in many respects and needs a Navy.    

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.2  Snuffy  replied to  Kavika @2    3 years ago

The Ford class is the newest versions,  unit cost is $8.5 billion.

Aircraft Carriers - CVN > United States Navy > Displayy-FactFiles

 
 
 
Kavika
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2.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Snuffy @2.2    3 years ago

Good link, but I'm always suspicious when the military tells us the amount of money they are going to save.

 
 
 
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2.2.2  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Kavika @2.2.1    3 years ago

I'm always suspicious when the military tells us the amount of money they are going to save.

As you should be.

Both of the LCS designs are POSs..... without a viable mission.  At best they should be hanging around in the gulf of Mexico, or off the Baja coast interdicting drug laden ships and subs..... But then..... That's what we have the puddle pirates for.  (Coast Guard to the uninitiated...)   

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3  Tacos!    3 years ago

It seems like the Arleigh Burke class could probably handle just about whatever they expected the LCS or Zumwalt to do. Is it really necessary to totally reinvent the wheel (or whatever the Navy equivalent is) just so we can modernize and upgrade a little?

 
 
 
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3.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tacos! @3    3 years ago

The ABs are a great design, and pretty modular.  They keep upgrading the design with newer systems while maintaining much of the same hull and propulsion systems.

What is on the drawing board is a blue ocean frigate, and of all things a much needed ice breaker for the Coast Guard. 

 
 
 
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3.2  Split Personality  replied to  Tacos! @3    3 years ago

The Zumwalts claim to fame was to be the rail gun. Cost issues, foolish contracts and plain science created a $880,000 price per round.

It's simply too expensive to fire or remove the gun from the ship.

We could have stopped at 1.  In 2005, Bush didn't want another, the Navy was done. But somehow a 2nd was financed in 2007.

The Navy did not want the 3rd, Obama did not want the 3rd but Paul Ryan put the financing in the 2009 Omnibus.

Such is politics.

 
 
 
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3.2.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Split Personality @3.2    3 years ago
The Navy found that the rail guns tend to vibrate themselves and everything around them apart.  Mass and inertia are pretty rigid and unforgiving.
They are getting much closer to having a viable laser base defense system though...  The US successfully tested a laser weapon that can destroy aircraft mid-flight - CNN
I think the test was up to 150KW.  It is estimated that when they get to around 200KW in pulsed power, they can take out hypersonic weapons that use spent uranium nosecones to protect from the frictional heat of flight.

 
 
 
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3.2.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.2.1    3 years ago

Railguns are cool if we can ever develop them to be practical, but accelerating something to comet like speeds isn't cheap. But again, the gun is useless if you can't use it (cyber security). 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

What is the Navy's mission?

Does anyone know?

Is the Navy to prepare to fight China? Or the Taliban? The service's configuration depends on its mission.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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5  seeder  FLYNAVY1    3 years ago

The Navy and the Marines job is power projection, freedom of the seas, and first response.   The Army is till "The Big Hammer", but takes time to assemble.

Given the difference in the perceived threats, the need is for a flexible response.  Personally I think we (the Navy) are better configured to handle the Chinese than the Taliban.  There is something to be said though for placing 4.5 acres of US airfield off the coast of most countries.  Air support by the guys with boots on the ground is rarely if ever declined when it arrives.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5    3 years ago

If we're to prepare for China, we must go all-out on overhead protection. We know the Chinese are working on fast missiles.

If we're to prepare for the Taliban, we needn't worry about overhead protection. OTOH, we need fairly massive troop lift capacity.

Right?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
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5.1.1  seeder  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Bob Nelson @5.1    3 years ago

We know the Chinese are working on fast missiles.

We actually had a defense against those with the F-14/Phenix missile system back up until the late 2000s, but the upgrade got scuttled by Dick Cheney.  He had it in for the CEO of Grumman.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
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6  Thrawn 31    3 years ago

God damn, the Pentagon needs to understand one thing and take it to heart.

CYBER SECURITY IS THE ABSOLUTE TOP PRIORITY.

Who gives a shit how fancy and accurate, and destructive your weapons are if you can't fire them. We can spend $9 billion on a carrier all we like, but it becomes completely useless the second it loses it's connection to our satellites. Our drones are useless the second someone is able to shut off the power to the building they are being controlled in. Cyber security needs to be a top national priority for both the military and civilian entities. Any future wars between nation states will be won/lost within the first couple minutes depending on who is able to shut off the power the fastest. 

I know the US is very good on this front, quite possibly ahead of any other nation, but we need to make sure we stay there. Forget developing 5th gen stealth fighters when our enemies are barely getting into 1st gen.

 
 

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