Testimony In Chauvin Trial Comes To An End
Both the prosecution and the defense have rested in the Derek Chauvin trial. Closing arguments will begin Monday morning, with jury deliberation to follow.
I have watched parts of the trial over the past three weeks, usually on ABC News channel, which is a 24 hour news app and not the main broadcast channel. Not a left wing source. Generally, the legal experts on ABC News seem to believe that the evidence against Chauvin is very strong. Not only do they have the video and eyewitness testimony proving Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck for 9 minutes, and video and audio showing that numerous bystanders shouted to Chauvin that Floyd was unconscious, the prosecution also had police department witnesses, including the Minneapolis police chief, who testified that Chauvin did not follow proper police procedures. The prosecution also had medical testimony indicating that Floyd died of lack of oxygen caused by obstructed breathing due to his lungs being compressed by Chauvin.
The defense seems to have been that Chauvin was distracted by bystanders on the nearby sidewalk (who were yelling at Chauvin to please stop killing Floyd), or that Floyd caused his own death by ingesting drugs, or that Floyd died from a heart attack, or , a last ditch attempt to say that the exhaust from the squad car Floyd was laid out next to poisoned him with carbon monoxide. All the defense issues seem to have been countered by the prosecution.
Will there be "riots" if somehow, against overwhelming evidence, Chauvin is acquitted ?
What do you think ?
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I think he's looking at a ten year prison sentence, and it's that low only because it's not possible prove that he intended to kill Floyd.
I still think that the jury will come back with 2nd degree homicide, but I could definitely be wrong; it's certainly been known to happen.
10 year sentence is manslaughter, right?
I'm not sure, I'm just guessing as to the sentence. I don't think he will be acquitted though. He really didnt present much of a defense.
OH I definitely don't think he'll be acquitted. He doesn't deserve to be either.
At numerous times during this trial his defense as presented by his lawyer seemed to be that the "crowd" distracted him and he lost track of what he was doing to Floyd. I find that ridiculous.
That's a bullshit defense. It's like when I was a kid and my mom would ask me why I did something bad..."I dunno"
Of course. If he was paying so much attention to what the crowd was doing why didn't he pay attention when they told him Floyd wasn't breathing ?
Yeah, and I'm a virgin, just ask my kids.
So then why the story about CO poisoning because of where he was laying in relation to the exhaust pipe? Chauvin didn't spend much money on an attorney did he? Did he go to Attorneys R Us?
Grasping at straws.
I read about that. Was shaking my head at the stupidity.
I think Chauvin scraped the bottom of the barrel for his defense lawyer. Then again, maybe nobody wanted to touch his case. It was a loser from the very beginning
Too much uncertainty about COD, no intent tto kill.... equals manslaughter.
And yes there will be riots.
Putting aside felony murder, the real difference between first and second-degree murder is the intent or mindset the defendant had when they took the action they did. Third-degree murder (also called manslaughter) is an unplanned, unintentional killing that is not part of another felony.
It was his heart, it was the exhaust pipe, it was drugs, it was the crowd distracting me...
No, it was you, period.
If he's acqutted I believe that the explosion in the USA (and echoed around the world) will make January 6th look like a kindergarten play.
i doubt there will be an aquittal , hung jury maybe , im thinking the manslaughter charge may hold though i dont think there is enough to get the unanimous vote for the other 2 charges
Only explosion will be in progressive liberal areas unhappy with the verdict even if it is just the 2nd degree manslaughter , verdict day might be a good day to have the "blue flu".
Well, thankfully I'm far enough away that if he's acquitted there's bound to not be much reaction about it here.
same here , seems my little slice of what i call close enough to heaven has been immune thus far from the riots and protests , besides i doubt the locals would put up with that sort of stuff like property destruction and the like , though they would support peaceful protests , i have seen them do so .
No verdict will please everyone. Rioters gonna riot anyway. A case like this is actually really complicated, but virtually no one who takes to the streets will have listened to the whole trial, much less with an open mind. They will want a first degree murder conviction without knowing the evidence or the law.
I disagree. I think it is one of the more simpler ones.
The snippets I have seen really doesn't sound like the defence did all that great of a job.
I doubt he will get that harsh a sentence though. Then I wondered if he could appeal.
From all that I read and saw the defence appeared to me to be pretty weak while the prosecution's case appeared pretty strong but of course i wasn't in the courtroom, and as you know it takes just one rotten apple in the basket to spoil the whole bunch. We're not on the jury nor will we be able to listen in to the deliberations, so who knows what will happen? I'm sure this case will be appealed if he's convicted.
True. Also, Donny Osmond lied to us.....
I have a good friend who was a Chicago cop for almost 30 years. I asked him today if he did or would ever arrest someone for trying to pass a counterfeit 20 dollar bill and he just laughed and said never.
If it was a good enough counterfeit how would the person passing it even be aware of it? It would be hard to prove intent unless it was a consistent event. When I was teaching in a high school here I was passed a 50 yuan note (about US$8) that I then paid a cabbie to return to the school. The next day the cabbie showed up with the vice-principal and I was shown why that 50 was counterfeit so I repaid him. I had no idea.
most people wont know buzz , but things have got high tech with US currency , they make pens that react to the paper temporarily and shows a certain color if its real and another if its fake , usually small places have the pen , which they can get at the bank , and have a policy of checking certain denominations , usually anything over a 50 here gets checked , some places check 20s and up , just depends on where you are and what has been attempted to be passed locally , here its usually 20s ..
other anti counterfitting things are the watermarks on each denomination the denominations president in watermark as well as the thread with the microprinting on it denoting denomination