The electorate keeps getting less White. The results aren't getting much more Democratic.

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  3 weeks ago  •  53 comments

By:   Philip Bump (MSN)

The electorate keeps getting less White. The results aren't getting much more Democratic.
The data complicate a common narrative.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Earlier this week, the Census Bureau released its semiannual assessment of turnout during the most recent federal election. It includes data on who was registered to vote and who voted, by age, race and state. It overlaps turnout data with questions about why someone did or didn't vote and background information such as types of residence.

It is, in other words, the most thorough official assessment of who voted that the country generates. And the new data show that a 30-year-long trend has continued: The electorate is getting less White.

There is a bit of wonkiness with the bureau's data; specifically, it doesn't adjust its numbers to account for people who don't respond to the survey. Happily, Michael McDonald of the United States Elections Project does, so we can use his adjusted data to understand how the national electorate has evolved.

The graph below shows McDonald's data. The larger circles indicate presidential elections.

You can see how the density of the White vote has seesawed in recent years, with the density increasing in lower-turnout midterm elections and dropping in higher-turnout presidential ones. Since 1990, the difference in the density of the White vote between midterm and presidential years has grown a bit wider.

But that seesawing can obscure the broader trend. For example, the 2014 midterms had a density of White voters that was nearly equivalent to the White density in 2008 — the year that saw Barack Obama elected as the country's first Black president.

That's the unexpected thing about this trend. Given that non-White voters also tend to be more heavily Democratic, we'd expect, at least on the surface, for the national results to skew more Democratic as the density of non-White votes increases. But that hasn't really happened. In 2008, for example, Democrats won more votes in House seats nationally by a 10.6-point margin. Six years later, with the same non-White density, Republicans won by 5.7 points.

There simply hasn't been a correlation between the density of White voters in an election and the results in the House contests. (The graph below shows the relationship of House results to White density in the electorate over time. It begins in 1986, at top left. From there, the density heads lower, but the House results flip back-and-forth.)

We highlighted one section on that graph, the period from 2010 to 2016. It behaves as we'd expect: In the midterms, the White density rose and Republicans did better; in presidential races, White density dropped and Democrats did better. But beyond that stretch, the correlation doesn't hold up well.

From 1986 to 1990, the electorate was on average 85 percent non-Hispanic White, and Democrats won the national House vote by eight points. From 1998 to 2002, the electorate was 82 percent White, and Republicans won by an average of two points. From 2010 to 2014, the electorate was 76 percent White and the Republicans won by four points. In the past three House elections, Democrats have won by that same average even as the electorate has been an average of 73 percent White.

House races are wonky things. That many House districts are safe for incumbents (either because of gerrymandering or because of the density of partisans in the districts) might decrease votes from those districts. If we compare White density to the national presidential vote, though, the correlation is only a bit stronger.

From 1988 to 1996, the electorate was an average of 84 percent White, and Democrats won the national vote by two points on average. From 2000 to 2008, the electorate was 79 percent White, and Democrats won by about the same amount. In the past three presidential contests, the electorate has been 73 percent White, and Democrats have won the national vote by just over three points on average.

We're only talking about a sample of nine elections here, so we should be careful about drawing too many sweeping conclusions. But it certainly isn't the case that the increased density of non-White voters has appreciably shifted the results for Democrats. Bill Clinton won by six points and nine points with White density over 80 percent. Barack Obama won by seven points and four points with White voter density well under that mark.

A lot of caveats apply to those examples, such as the presence of a strong third-party candidate in Clinton's races and the shift of some White Democrats to the right as the density of non-Whites has increased.

But the reminder still stands. American politics is more complicated than an electorate becoming more Democratic as it becomes less densely White.


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Texan1211
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1  seeder  Texan1211    3 weeks ago

Probably not anywhere near what the progressives thought was happening.

Seems like the GOP isn't quite so dead yet, and it can win elections even when the voter turnout is what the Democrats always call a death knell for the GOP.

I guess some of the old white men fathered some kids!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 weeks ago

"The Electorate Keeps Getting Less White."

Does this bother you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    2 weeks ago

not in the least! 

why would it?

does it matter to you?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

I think it does matter to a lot of folks on the 'right'.  I think it scares them shitless!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

I asked if it matters to YOU.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

NOPE

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

fantastic!!!!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

Ya!  I'm not worried about becoming/being a minority like the majority on the 'right'.  They're quite fearful of it!  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

you know. just because you believe something, it doesn't make it so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.7    2 weeks ago
you know. just because you believe something, it doesn't make it so.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

so progressives claim, without proof, of course

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.8    2 weeks ago

way to copy!

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.11  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

Wait til this one decides to start to IM you. She starts out nasty and stays that way the whole time she is harassing you. I've never been called some of the names she has thrown at me.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 weeks ago

Today's gop/gqp are dead, they just refuse to admit it.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    2 weeks ago

so are you admitting that Democrats can't beat a dead party now?

cool!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

They can and they have!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    2 weeks ago

then why is Congress so evenly split?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.3    2 weeks ago

What does that have to do with it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    2 weeks ago

if Democrats are capable of beating a dead party, shouldn't that translate into a huge majority?

you know, instead of the miniscule one they hold now, until the midterms. anyways.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    2 weeks ago

Which means what?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.6    2 weeks ago

I will let you figure it out.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2  Nerm_L    2 weeks ago

These results seem to suggest that diversity does not create unity.

The only national election in the United States is for the Presidency.  All other elections are state and local.  Down ballot elections really do matter.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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2.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Nerm_L @2    2 weeks ago

“The only national election in the United States is for the Presidency. “

Then why the ‘debate’ over the confirmed 2020 results? Anyone, anywhere that has an issue with those results are only pissing in the wind. Do you stand upwind, nerm?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1    2 weeks ago

no one has even brought it up except you.

do you see anyone on thus article disputing the results?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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2.1.2  Nerm_L  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1    2 weeks ago
Then why the ‘debate’ over the confirmed 2020 results? Anyone, anywhere that has an issue with those results are only pissing in the wind. Do you stand upwind, nerm?

The debate over the 2020 election isn't really about the election.  Four years of twisting everything (and I literally mean everything) into an anti-Trump crisis cost the left leaning media its credibility.

Were the election results valid - or - was this just another anti-Trump media blitz supported by government employed resisters?  The left twisted everything (and I literally mean everything) for four years.  Why should Trump supporters trust the left now?  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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2.1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

“The debate over the 2020 election isn't really about the election”

Indeed. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
"The debate over the 2020 election isn't really about the election.  Four years of twisting everything (and I literally mean everything) into an anti-Trump crisis cost the left leaning media its credibility."

The 'left leaning media' has no problems with credibility whatsoever.  The 'right' leaning media now . . . well, there is absolutely no credibility there whatsoever.  

"Were the election results valid - or - was this just another anti-Trump media blitz supported by government employed resisters?  The left twisted everything (and I literally mean everything) for four years.  Why should Trump supporters trust the left now?"

What is this made up nonsense?  Sounds like another QANon conspiracy. 

You are talking about trust and the former occupant of the White House?

Talk up upside down ass backwards world!

You fail to realize that truth and reality have a liberal bias.    

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
Each response from you just gets kookier and kookier.  Way out there in la la land!
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
truth and reality have a liberal bias.   

Another unsupported by fact claim.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.7  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

It's supported by reality!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

Then it should be easy enough for you to prove--which I notice you still can't do!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

No need to prove the truth.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.9    2 weeks ago

Stock answer for when you have zip.

Typical.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.10    2 weeks ago

Truth/reality/liberal

No need for proof when the truth is so obvious!

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1.12  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.9    2 weeks ago
No need to prove the truth.  

I think you meant

"Unable to prove the truth".

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Nerm_L @2    2 weeks ago
Down ballot elections really do matter.

The Republicans did quit well down ballot in 2020

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2    2 weeks ago

and will do better on 2022

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

I wouldn't bet on it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Would never expect you to. Even you have to recognize a losing bet when you see it.

But the smart money will be on the GOP taking the House for sure and possibly the Senate, too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

No, YOU shouldn't bet on it!  Wait a minute, maybe you should!  Go ahead and bet everything you have on it!  Go for it!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.5  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

I'll bet.

Loser stays completely off NT for 6 months.

You game?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

Fer sure?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.2.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.6    2 weeks ago

Take the bet if you are so confident the GOP won't take the House.

If you dare.

I bet you won't.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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2.2.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

Guys,

These bets are a no-no and not allowed on NT. 

In fact, do I have to put in another restriction on you two?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.2.8    2 weeks ago

It's okay, no bets were made. Sorry.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.2.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

Good. Thank you!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

They're working on it now in many states by the voter suppression laws all the republicans are trying to pass because they know that they cannot win unless they lie,  cheat, and steal/suppress votes.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @2.2.12    2 weeks ago

voter suppression??

lmao.

what won't far left folks not believe?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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Texan1211
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3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 weeks ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    2 weeks ago

Threads 3 and 4 cleaned up for slap fight. Knock it off you two. Last warning

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
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5  sandy-2021492    2 weeks ago

Thread 1.1 locked for slapfighting.

 
 
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