Former federal prosecutor explains why Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Matt Gaetz and others are all going down - Palmer Report


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Via:  jbb  •  one week ago  •  9 comments

By:   Bill Palmer (Palmer Report)

Former federal prosecutor explains why Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, Matt Gaetz and others are all going down - Palmer Report

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T

Bill Palmer | 2:00 pm EDT June 6, 2021

Palmer Report " Analysis -----

Defeatists love pushing the notion that if something hasn't happened yet, that means it'll never happen. Donald Trump is in the process of being indicted by a grand jury, but it hasn't happened yet? He's magically gotten away with it all. Rudy Giuliani's home has been raided but he hasn't been arrested yet? He's magically gotten away with it. There are two cooperating witnesses against Matt Gaetz, but he hasn't yet been arrested? He's magically gotten away with it too.

The defeatist logic is pure gibberish, of course. It requires you to ignore the fact that the criminal justice system is a complex multi-step process. It also requires you to ignore the fact that once criminal targets reach a point where their homes are being raided, or inside witnesses have flipped on them, or a grand jury has been empaneled to indict them, they're going to be indicted and arrested.

Former Assistant U.S. Attorney Richard Signorelli helped remind everyone of this fact over the weekend when he tweeted this: "Within the next 3 months, Gaetz, Giuliani, Trump, & others will be indicted, arrested, & brought into the criminal justice system to later stand trial. Keep the faith."

Three months sounds like a long time. But that's just the maximum amount of time that he thinks it'll take for all three indictments and arrests to play out. And in reality, that time will fly by. In the meantime Trump has been reduced to touting delusional fantasies about a magic rescue, Giuliani has become irrelevant, and Gaetz keeps running his mouth in a way that can only end up hurting him at trial.

The indictments and arrests of Trump, Giuliani, Gaetz, and others, when they come, will have a debilitating effect on the Republican Party and the right wing. GOP leaders will be split on whether to continue bending to the will of an obviously washed up Trump. House Republicans will be stuck owning the fact that they didn't do anything about Gaetz when they could. And these criminal trials will be playing out just as the 2022 midterm election season is getting off the ground. Our job is to hold down the fort until the criminal justice system is finished doing its thing. We held things together for four years. We fought and won the election, and we've retaken the government. We can continue fighting and winning until the end, now that the end is in sight.


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Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    one week ago

They are all going down faster than the Titanic now!

Professor Principal
2  JohnRussell    one week ago

I am pretty sure they will indict someone in Trump's inner circle. I'm still not totally convinced it will include him though. 

Paula Bartholomew
PhD Guide
2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2    one week ago

Hopefully they will throw him under a bus, something he is known to do to others.

Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    one week ago

They've been saying this for years now. If they had anything serious on Trump, it would have already been leaked

Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @3    one week ago

Tax Evasion is a serious crime and has been alleged.

Professor Principal
3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @3    one week ago

Donald Trump is a known crook. The New York Times proved Trump and his family took part in a scheme to defraud the IRS , over the course of years, using thousands of documents provided them by Mary Trump, Donalds niece. 

He is not indicted for that because the statute of limitations had expired.   But the paper proved it. 

If he did it once for many years it is logical he did it more than once. 

The New York Times Proves President Trump Is a Crook


Oct 02, 2018  ·   The New York Times   has published a massive investigation of President   Trump ’s finances, proving he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars, not …

Professor Principal
3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2    one week ago

How much plainer can it get ?

The New York   Times   has published a   massive investigation   of President Trump’s finances, revolving around two important revelations. First, Trump was given far more financial support by his father than previously known — at least $413 million in today’s dollars, not the measly $1 million he claims to have received. Second,

the mechanisms by which he received these transfers often crossed the line from aggressive or creative maneuvering into illegality.

That the   Times   presents these conclusions so baldly — accusing him of “outright fraud” in the first sentence — in the face of Trump’s famous litigiousness, is a testament to the power and clarity of its findings.

That is to say, Trump was in the money-inheriting business. And that business was essentially, and not just incidentally, illegal. The  Times  found 295 income streams created by Fred Trump for his son, many of them illegal on their face. The English language has terms for people who make large sources of money from illegal activity: criminals.

Professor Principal
3.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    one week ago

For some reason , most likely related to the cowardice of the mainstream media, the NYT revelations in Oct of 2018 did not have the impact that I'm sure they expected. 

The cowardice plus the fact that no one really yet comprehended  (pre- two impeachment cases) the depths of Trump's base's willingness to overlook his blatant criminality and immorality. 

Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
4  Buzz of the Orient    one week ago

I'll be counting the days for the next three months, and then even if there are arrests, and trials (how long did ti take for Chauvin to come to trial?) and then appeals to the Trump-stacked SCOTUS, I don't believe the final results will be during my lifetime.


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