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Russia's Pro-Putin Commentators Praise Biden After Summit

  

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Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  3 years ago  •  23 comments

By:   Anton Troianovski (MSN)

Russia's Pro-Putin Commentators Praise Biden After Summit
GENEVA — For months, Russia's state news media have ridiculed President Biden as bumbling, confused and well past his prime. But by Thursday, the mood had shifted: Here was a man in the White House, some said, who understands us, who we can do business with. Mr. Biden's meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin in Geneva touched off celebrations on Russia's often over-the-top political talk shows as well as quieter expressions of cautious...

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GENEVA — For months, Russia's state news media have ridiculed President Biden as bumbling, confused and well past his prime. But by Thursday, the mood had shifted: Here was a man in the White House, some said, who understands us, who we can do business with.

© Doug Mills/The New York Times President Biden with President Vladimir V. Putin in Geneva on Wednesday. A pro-Putin commentator said the meeting "fully justified the most optimistic expectations."

Mr. Biden's meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin in Geneva touched off celebrations on Russia's often over-the-top political talk shows as well as quieter expressions of cautious optimism in Moscow's foreign policy establishment.

On one point there seemed to be broad agreement: Mr. Biden was a new sort of counterpart, more predictable and professional than President Donald J. Trump and more inclined to reckon with Russian interests than other recent predecessors, like President Barack Obama.

"The earlier doctrine, put forward by President Obama, which dismissed Russia as just a regional power, has been rejected," said Konstantin Remchukov, editor of the influential Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper, appearing on state-run Channel One.

It has been revealed, Mr. Remchukov said, that Russia is an indispensable power that the U.S. "needs to talk with" and that Mr. Putin is "no longer demonized" as a pariah.

Mr. Biden's description of Mr. Putin before the summit as a "worthy adversary" raised eyebrows in Moscow. And in his opening remarks at Wednesday's summit in an 18th-century villa overlooking Lake Geneva, he pointedly departed from President Obama's "regional power" remark, saying that Russia and the United States were "two great powers."

"He is the first post-Cold-War U.S. president who has adequate notions of what Russia is and what it wants, and what the United States can and cannot do about it," said Kadri Liik, a Russia specialist at the European Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin. "Biden has been positioning himself very skillfully."

Meeting by video link with university graduates in Moscow on Thursday, Mr. Putin himself defended Mr. Biden against portrayals of him as being out of his depth.

"I want to say that the image of President Biden that our and even the American press paints has nothing to do with reality," Mr. Putin said. "He's a professional, and you have to be very careful in working with him to make sure you don't miss anything. He doesn't miss anything, I can assure you."

The relationship between Russia and the United States is plumbing such depths, analysts said, that it was impossible to imagine a real alleviation of tensions any time soon. And Mr. Putin — in denying any responsibility for cyberattacks and rejecting any criticism of the Kremlin's repression of dissent at home — made it clear he was not about to change any policies.

But there was hope that the relationship's downward spiral, which many fear could at some point swerve toward military confrontation, could at least be halted if Moscow and Washington re-engaged in talks. Russian analysts and officials who have long been fiercely critical of the United States for, they say, seeking to weaken Russia, said they saw in Mr. Biden a recognition that he had to contend with Russian interests.

© Doug Mills/The New York Times Russian analysts said they saw in Mr. Biden a president who finally understood Russia's needs and interests.

"The leaders' meeting fully justified the most optimistic expectations and delivered the most results of any in the last decades of the relationship between the powers," Timofey Bordachev, a prominent commentator, wrote in a Kremlin-friendly online outlet, Vzglyad. "Biden, believe it or not, looks to be the first American president in 30 years who is playing a 'long game.'"

The praise of Mr. Biden from the pro-Kremlin commentariat was significant because the Russian elite has long seen Democrats as part of a "Russophobic" American establishment for which democracy and human rights are simply code words to justify attacks on Mr. Putin. But in Mr. Biden, some Russians see an experienced leader focused clearly on his priorities — such as domestic affairs and competition with China — for whom confrontation with Russia is not an end in itself.

And after the dashed hopes of the Trump era — when an outspoken fan of Mr. Putin in the White House never made good on his promises of friendlier relations — Moscow is particularly attuned to Mr. Biden's apparent proficiency in managing the apparatus of government.

© Doug Mills/The New York Times President Trump met Mr. Putin in Helsinki, Finland, in 2018. The Kremlin was disappointed that the Trump-Putin bromance did not translate into favorable policy changes.

"It should be acknowledged that the presidency of Joseph Biden has brought about stabilization," Fyodor Lukyanov, a foreign-policy analyst who advises the Kremlin, wrote in the newspaper Kommersant. "Both because of his personality and because he clearly knows what he wants."

The Kremlin's spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, took to a liberal radio station, Echo of Moscow, Thursday morning to spin the summit's outcome. He lauded Mr. Putin and Mr. Biden for, among other things, agreeing to disagree. On issues like antigovernment protests in Belarus and the imprisonment of the opposition leader Aleksei A. Navalny, Mr. Peskov said, the two presidents exchanged views and quickly moved on.

"The leaders had the chance to present their positions directly, to more or less understand where cooperation is possible and where it is not for the time being, given a categorical divergence in views," Mr. Peskov said. "That's also a positive."

Russia's adversaries in Eastern Europe watched the Geneva summit with apprehension, and Ukrainian officials said ahead of the meeting that they would reject any agreements about Ukraine made by Mr. Putin and Mr. Biden without their participation. Both presidents suggested in their news conferences that Ukraine played a minor role in their discussions, provoking some gloating among pro-Kremlin analysts.

Vladimir Solovyov, the host of a loudly pro-Putin evening show on the Rossiya-1 state TV channel, used his time Wednesday night to claim that the summit demonstrated that President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine had been left alone by his Western backers. He showed a photo collage of Mr. Zelensky taking a selfie in front of Mr. Biden and Mr. Putin in Geneva, and said the Ukrainian president was behaving like "a touchy little child."

In Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, Alyona Getmanchuk, director of the New Europe Center research institute, said she worried that Mr. Putin's stated willingness to engage in new talks would be nothing but a ploy to gain advantage in his continued confrontation with the West.

"Even if there would be some new ideas or new proposals from Putin's side which could sound constructive," Ms. Getmanchuk said, "it will be an attempt to create new traps for the U.S. or for Western partners."

But Ms. Liik, the European Council on Foreign Relations analyst, said reduced tensions between Russia and the United States could also be helpful to opponents of Mr. Putin — both for the opposition inside Russia and to countries like Ukraine that have an adversarial relationship with the Kremlin. The reason, she said, is that Mr. Putin is likely to act in a more restrained manner if he is engaged in high-level negotiations with the United States.

© Brendan Hoffman for The New York Times Ukrainian officials had made it clear that they would not abide by any unilateral decisions about the war in eastern Ukraine that might have emerged from the summit.

"I think it is good for everyone if Russia has things to lose in its relationship with the United States," Ms. Liik said. "With Trump, we were in a situation for a while where it had nothing to lose."

Ivan Nechepurenko and Oleg Matsnev contributed reporting.


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 years ago

"I want to say that the image of President Biden that our and even the American press paints has nothing to do with reality," Mr. Putin said. "He's a professional, and you have to be very careful in working with him to make sure you don't miss anything. He doesn't miss anything, I can assure you."

 
 
 
SteevieGee
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1.1  SteevieGee  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 years ago

Biden's been doing this stuff for so long he could do it in his sleep.  Only he's not asleep.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1    3 years ago
Biden's been doing this stuff for so long he could do it in his sleep.

I agree.  He also listens to his advisers who are more knowledgeable than himself regarding certain subjects, situations, etc. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 years ago

He doesn't miss anything, I can assure you."

Everything simply flew over his empty head.

I wonder if this is the beginning of some  kind of Putin-Biden collusion thingy

At least he apparently didn't drool.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    3 years ago

I'm sure that Putin and his media are saying nice things about Joe just because they like him.

/s

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.2.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    3 years ago
I wonder if this is the beginning of some  kind of Putin-Biden collusion thingy

Let's hope so, dear.  You might get a better idea of how it should be done.   

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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1.2.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    3 years ago
I'm sure that Putin and his media are saying nice things about Joe just because they like him.

President BIden is a nice guy.  Why wouldn't people, regardless of nationality and/or adversarial leanings, say nice things about him? 

Diplomacy is a major element in any successful political administration.  In our case, it's a much-needed breath of fresh air.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.3    3 years ago

Sure, Putin and his media are just being nice.

We'll go with that fantasy, hell, why not?

It is as good as some I've heard here.

 
 
 
Hallux
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2  Hallux    3 years ago

Looks like we posted a very similar article from different sources.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Hallux @2    3 years ago
Looks like we posted a very similar article from different sources.

I'm not bothered by it.  Please feel free to keep yours up.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    3 years ago

...hey!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    3 years ago

This is a far different picture than what was painted by the far right a few days ago.

Thanks for seeding this, Sis

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1  Hallux  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 years ago

Indeed, Biden was supposed to come away battered and bruised by the mighty Vlad.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Hallux @3.1    3 years ago

Putin was gentle with Joe, mostly out of pity for his fragile state.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.1    3 years ago
Putin was gentle with Joe, mostly out of pity for his fragile state.

Putin isn't gentle with anyone.  But thank you for your silly comment anyway.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.1    3 years ago

Backtracking?

"Putin will bamboozle and bully dog faced pony soldier Biden"

@!@

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    3 years ago
Thanks for seeding this, Sis

Don't ya know that there are a few folks in Palm Beach experiencing an attack of the vapors about now.   

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.2.1  Hallux  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.2    3 years ago

A few posters also.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.2.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Hallux @3.2.1    3 years ago
A few posters also.

*hearty guffaw*

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.2.3  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.2    3 years ago

I'm sure there is a lot of pearl clutching going on right now.

512

 
 
 
pat wilson
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3.2.4  pat wilson  replied to  Kavika @3.2.3    3 years ago

Ha ha, are those his or Mother's ?

 
 
 
Kavika
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3.2.5  Kavika   replied to  pat wilson @3.2.4    3 years ago

His mothers, he took them from her jewelry drawer.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.2.6  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @3.2.3    3 years ago
I'm sure there is a lot of pearl clutching going on right now.

Covfefe-clutching?  Wait.  What?  Oh yeah.  That's the other guy's clutch of choice.

 
 

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