Musk waxes lyrical on Cybertruck, says it looks like it was 'made by aliens from the future'

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  2 weeks ago  •  71 comments

By:   Lora Kolodny

Musk waxes lyrical on Cybertruck, says it looks like it was 'made by aliens from the future'
Tesla CEO Elon Musk said Thursday in an exchange with fans on Twitter that there's "always some chance" his company's forthcoming Cybertruck will "flop."

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk said Thursday in an exchange with fans on Twitter that there's "always some chance" his company's forthcoming Cybertruck will "flop." Nonetheless, Musk plans to keep the Cybertruck "production design" almost exactly the same as its show car — a giant metal trapezoid.

But he also said he "doesn't care" about any risk that the Cybertruck could flop, because he personally loves its design.

He wrote, "To be frank, there is always some chance that Cybertruck will flop, because it is so unlike anything else. I don't care. I love it so much even if others don't. Other trucks look like copies of the same thing, but Cybertruck looks like it was made by aliens from the future."

The Cybertruck's 2019 launch event caused a stir due to the unusual design of the vehicle and because Musk asked Tesla design leader Franz von Holzhausen to try to smash the vehicle's windows, which he did. Von Holzhausen threw a metal ball at one of the windows, surprising Musk when the glass shattered, though it stayed in place.

Despite the launch snafu and the uncertainty about when Tesla can start delivering the Cybertruck, the $100 orders poured forth. Musk boasted the company saw 250,000 within about a week of the Cybertruck's debut.

In September at Tesla's annual shareholder meeting and Battery Day event, Musk disclosed that Tesla had received so many Cybertruck orders that the company stopped counting. "The orders are gigantic," he said, "... well over half a million orders. I think maybe six hundred thou— it's a lot, basically. We stopped counting."

That was before competitors showed off their plans for more traditional battery-powered trucks, such as the Ford F-150 Lightning and GMC Hummer EV.

Musk also said Thursday that Tesla doesn't plan to put door handles on the Cybertruck, without specifying whether such a vehicle could meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in the U.S. He also reminded fans that Tesla has decided to add a four-wheel steering system to the sizable Cybertruck, which should enable it to move diagonally in a straight line and get into or out of some tight spots.

He wrote, "In end, we kept production design almost exactly same as show car. Just some small tweaks here & there to make it slightly better. No door handles. Car recognizes you & opens door. Having all four wheels steer is amazing for nimble handling & tight turns!"

The four-wheel steering feature, if it comes through as promised, would make the Cybertruck more directly competitive with the GMC Hummer EV, which already boasted a "crab mode" feature.

Musk did not comment on the Tesla Cyberquad, an ATV product that was meant to accompany the Cybertruck.

In the company's first-quarter investor presentation, Tesla labeled the Cybertruck still "in development." The company is expected to deliver a progress update and second-quarter results on July 26.


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TᵢG
Professor Principal
1  TᵢG    2 weeks ago

Well the truck driver market does have a certain expectation of looks.   I can see a brave sole showing his new Tesla truck to his GM, Ford and Ram driving buddies only to get a 'that is not a truck' kind of rejection from his group.

The truck will need to genuinely (the early indicators suggest that it will) perform better than the conventional trucks to get a chance at being accepted.  

To wit, I doubt it will win the beauty contest (in the eyes of the conventional truck buyers) but this group has a lot of respect for power.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1    2 weeks ago

some tesla's are very fast. (I'll take the 5th) their acceleration is unbelievable. not exactly practical for road trips though.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
1.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  devangelical @1.1    2 weeks ago

I agree, I drove one a few years ago (test drive) and it was the best accelerating vehicle I had ever driven.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.2  CB   replied to  TᵢG @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

It's too much power for the road. I was impressed, but thought it superfluous (and dangerous) for the young. I remember going "turbo" in a corvette on a long stretch of road (not the same thing as Tesla) but it impractical (and dangerous) beyond show.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Gordy327  replied to  CB @1.1.2    2 weeks ago
too much power

There's no such thing.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.4  CB   replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

HA!

We were on a 'backroad' at night and that Tesla slammed me back in my seat when it went from 0 to 60 lickety-split! I was not buffeted, I was rocketed! I was so gratified that no 'invisible' person stepped out into the path of this silent missile sliding now the way.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
1.1.5  Gordy327  replied to  CB @1.1.4    2 weeks ago
it went from 0 to 60 lickety-split! I was not buffeted, I was rocketed!

That's a good selling point.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.6  CB   replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

All I could imagine was looking down at that camera screen and seeing somebody writhing on the pavement or a police slipping onto the highway behind us. Thankfully, none of it happened. And I am free to tell the story today.

Bet (zealous) criminals would love that Tesla! Now that's a selling point! Police departments would need upgrades too?!

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
1.1.7  Gordy327  replied to  CB @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

It might have good acceleration, but what's it's top speed?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.8  CB   replied to  Gordy327 @1.1.7    2 weeks ago

Now that is a good question! Cause we all should know that 'officer' cruisers have good 'pick up' and are built for the chase!

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
1.1.9  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

That happened to me in a 62 dodge modified for racing with a 426 hemi 4 barrel.

Once was enough, lol.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.10  CB   replied to  Split Personality @1.1.9    2 weeks ago

I am too old for that kind of thing! Just too old for 'speed'!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.1.11  Ender  replied to  CB @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

Don't tell me you have no need...

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
1.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  CB @1.1.10    2 weeks ago

Never too old to have a car that responds exactly the way you always wished a car would, at any speed, especially

getting on to a highway. jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.13  CB   replied to  Ender @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

No siree, Bob. Speed (like that) is no longer my 'speed'! (See what I did there?) jrSmiley_51_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.14  CB   replied to  Split Personality @1.1.12    2 weeks ago

Getting off the ramp! Now that is the only time I enjoy "having a need for speed" - some of those line crabs won't clear out of the way and let me in!

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2  Tacos!    2 weeks ago
He wrote, “To be frank, there is always some chance that Cybertruck will flop, because it is so unlike anything else.“

As someone who has owned several trucks, I can say there is an excellent chance it will flop. Trucks don’t look the way they do because truck owners are stuck in some kind of fashion rut. They look the way they do because of utility. Trucks perform certain jobs, and if you screw with the basic design, it makes it hard to do those jobs. Additionally, if you over-complicate the thing in some misguided effort to be too clever, no one will want to have to use the thing. A good truck is also simple.

And the basic model should be cheap.

To be sure, you can always find some people to buy a bad truck (See: Chevy Avalanche), just like you can find some people who will buy anything. Some people will buy this monstrosity just because it’s a Tesla. 
I expect he will manage to sell some of these things for a few years, but that won’t mean it’s not a flop.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2    2 weeks ago

I liked the Avalanche.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @2.1    2 weeks ago

Somebody had to, of course. And for a couple of years, they sold a few of them. But usually, the Silverado could top its annual sales in a month or so.

But who knows? Maybe the cyber truck will do all the shit Elon claims it will, it will be super simple to use, and people will love it.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

I know someone that had the SSR. It was only for looks.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ender @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

>cough< junk >cough<

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
2.1.4  zuksam  replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

The thing is F'ing ugly and it doesn't look like it was made by aliens from the future, it looks like it was built by a 7th grade metal shop class trying to make a Delorean. The thing Musk doesn't realize is because Trucks are used for work whether commercial or home/farm so they're designed to accommodate aftermarket accessories, who's going to buy a truck that can't use available ladder racks, caps, plows, tool boxes or utility bodies. Accessories that fit multiple models and brands are much cheaper than model specific accessories and many companies and tradesmen like to transfer the accessories off their old trucks onto their new truck. Even for Buyers/Owners who never use the truck for anything but towing a boat and picking up a few 2x4's at Lowes the Commercial market sets the resale value of their truck, if it doesn't appeal to the commercial market resale values will be low.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  zuksam @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
The thing is F'ing ugly ...

I agree.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  zuksam @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

I had a good laugh at your commentary. Well done and a perfect description of it.

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Quiet
2.1.7  charger 383  replied to  zuksam @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

Looks like the body shop class tried to make an EL Camino out of a DeLorean  

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
2.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  zuksam @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

The same people who buy Ford Super Duty 4 door  trucks or Dodge 3500 4 doors with dual rear wheels

and drive the kids to school in them

( in between trips to the dealership complaining about the suspension )

Drug store cowboys...

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
2.1.9  zuksam  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.8    2 weeks ago
Drug store cowboys...

Actually they buy just as many accessories, Brush bars, bed rails, Light bars, tonneau covers, big wheels and tires, fender flares. Posers are cultivating an image so they'll spend a few grand on a front bumper and winch just cause it looks cool despite the fact they don't even like driving down a dirt road because they'll get mud on their mud flaps. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
2.1.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

In my neck of the desert, most of the vehicles like that have Mexico plates on them with teenage drivers or ones in their early 20's. Guess what their daddy's do for a living. If you think drug trade involvement, you're 100% correct!

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Junior Silent
2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Tacos! @2    2 weeks ago

There's a reason why you don't see many unibody trucks.  This thing even have a bed?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Ender  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 weeks ago

Not much of one.

512

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
2.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

“Not much of one.”

If your nephew is looking to buy a half ton denali then the cyber truck has a more useful bed. Half ton denali is only available in a crew cab configuration. More than likely it will have a short bed.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.3  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

He just wants the status and looks of it.

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
2.2.4  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @2.2.3    2 weeks ago

It’ll certainly give him that. Very nice truck. Plus, there’s a good chance it’ll have the corvette motor under the hood.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
2.2.5  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

I thought he said they quit making them. Hard to find a close to pristine one. He even made us drive to Arkansas to see one. The underside was all chewed up like they lived down a gravel road.

And now with the prices he is seeing, kinda puts it out of his price range.  Haha

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
2.2.6  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @2.2.5    2 weeks ago

No, they still make them. Some come equipped with the 5.3 v8, some with the 6.2 v8. New ones are pricey, so are nice, low mile used ones. Prices of used are supposed to come down in a couple months, or so i’ve read. We’ll see. If he does get one tell him to beware of the 8 speed automatic. I’ve heard those can be a problem.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Guide
2.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

That thing is just plain ugly.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
2.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 weeks ago

The Chevrolet Corvair pickup and Corvairs in general , which was in fact a excellent vehicle, was only made for 4 years before dying a painful death courtesy of Ralph Nader!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
2.2.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

I've always found beauty to be in the eyes of the beer holder! On that note, it would take at least a full keg on this one!

 
 
 
Split Personality
PhD Principal
2.2.10  Split Personality  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 weeks ago

As much as some of the big three 4 door pickups, 4.5 feet of aggravation.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3  Ender    2 weeks ago

Looking at some pics, not really impressed. Could not find one pic of the inside.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ender @3    2 weeks ago

One thing you can tell from the pics is that you won’t be riding very high in it. It also looks like a pain in the ass to get in and out of. Even worse if you’re wearing something on your head.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Ender  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    2 weeks ago

Found one. Looks very plain.

512

Not very roomy.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
3.1.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    2 weeks ago

Looks like skynet took a shit while it was hungover.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
3.2  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ender @3    2 weeks ago

Awful interior.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Ender  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.2    2 weeks ago

Doesn't look very comfortable.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
4  Ed-NavDoc    2 weeks ago

Just the fact that it has the word Tesla attached to it means it is going to be pretty much a novelty toy for the rich and affluent and out of the price ranges of the average blue collar working stiffs.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5  Kavika     2 weeks ago

You Don't Need A Full-Size Pickup Truck, You Need a Cowboy Costume

It's my opinion and experience that the above headline is accurate. Most people don't need a full sized pick up truck, it's an image thing.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
5.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Kavika @5    2 weeks ago

lol my wife and I talk soooo much shit about people who drive trucks when you can tell they never actually  haul anything. They are a waste of gas, you look like a moron when you are trying to park, turn, or generally do anything in them, and the bigger your truck the more you are overcompensating. Trucks do not make you look cool, ever. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Thrawn 31 @5.1    2 weeks ago

A neighbor a couple of doors down from me bought a new Ford F250 diesel. We live in a retirement community and when he got it home it found out it doesn't fit in the garage...I asked him why in the hell did you buy a truck you have no use for it. He said because it's cool and I can sit up high...LOLOL $60 K to sit up high. I told him could sit on a cactus for free and you'll be sitting high. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Ender  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

The only need for that is towing.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.3  seeder  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @5.1.1    2 weeks ago

Sit up high, he says?

Tell him he could have sat up high in my Kia Soul, and saved a ton of money.

 
 
 
fckleftist
Freshman Silent
5.1.4  fckleftist  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.3    2 weeks ago

Or he can buy what he wants it is still America.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
5.1.5  devangelical  replied to  fckleftist @5.1.4    2 weeks ago

when you go to buy a vowel, see if they'll throw in a box of commas for later on...

 
 
 
fckleftist
Freshman Silent
5.1.6  fckleftist  replied to  devangelical @5.1.5    2 weeks ago
I'll also look for a capital letter for your sentence.
 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
5.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.3    2 weeks ago
in my Kia Soul

funny, I had you pegged as a honda or toyota gal...

 
 
 
evilgenius
Professor Participates
5.1.8  evilgenius  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.3    2 weeks ago
my Kia Soul,

We have one of those in kale green.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
5.2  devangelical  replied to  Kavika @5    2 weeks ago

the tesla truck doesn't strike me as being too practical, never mind how it looks. I like trucks. I owned and drove trucks from '71 to '05. then I switched to driving a lexus. I've owned 3 and the current one is an SUV. I was looking for a toyota tundra before I bought the last lexus, but even the used ones are too pricey. a friend of mine had ordered a new honda ridgeline just before the pandemic and got it delivered before honda shut down production last year. he paid $39K for it last year. carvana offered him $42K for it this month.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.2.1  Ender  replied to  devangelical @5.2    2 weeks ago

Prices are unreal. My Nephew has been wanting a Denali. Now the price of a used one is at least 50k.

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
5.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Ender @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

the premium prices used cars are commanding now will collapse by the end of september.

 
 
 
zuksam
Sophomore Silent
5.3  zuksam  replied to  Kavika @5    2 weeks ago
it's an image thing

A lot of people need a full sized pickup because they have a Boat or Camper or a long driveway that they plow. Of course they only really need it 6-10 times a year but they need it. It's not all waste though since the Construction industry loves used creampuff pickups.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5.3.1  Kavika   replied to  zuksam @5.3    2 weeks ago

Most people that live in the city do not need a truck but millions have them. I had a 1996 F250 Turbo Diesel and sold it in 2012. I pulled a 34 foot 5th wheel over half of the US and Canada. I used it for many different reasons that a truck was needed. Many of my friends had trucks that had no need for them and as you said they were cream puff trucks when they trade them in on a newer model. 

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6  Kavika     2 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
6.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Kavika @6    2 weeks ago

Lol, the exact type of person who just looks like a complete douche for having a truck. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2  Ender  replied to  Kavika @6    2 weeks ago

I know people that have a long driveway. They would hook their trashcan to the truck and pull it to the road.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
6.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Ender @6.2    2 weeks ago

You can do the same with a car or suv, Ender.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
6.2.2  Ender  replied to  Kavika @6.2.1    2 weeks ago

I know. I just thought it was funny. That was about all they used it for.

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Principal
7  Gordy327    2 weeks ago

Aesthetics of the Cyber truck aside, I'll reserve judgement until I see how it performs compared to its regular truck counterparts. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Sophomore Silent
8  Gazoo    2 weeks ago

I don’t tow a trailer but i haul stuff in the bed of my truck, so for me bed size (and payload) is the determining factor for the usefulness of a truck. from what i can tell the cyber truck will have a 6’5” bed which makes it much more useful (for me) than a conventional crew cab truck (all brands) with a tiny 5’2” bed. As far as looks, it looks kind of cool in the pictures but i’ll wait to see one in person to make that decision final. Would i buy one? Probably not but never say never.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
9  CB     2 weeks ago
He wrote, "To be frank, there is always some chance that Cybertruck will flop, because it is so unlike anything else. I don't care. I love it so much even if others don't. Other trucks look like copies of the same thing, but Cybertruck looks like it was made by aliens from the future."

This is why news headlines get in so much confusing trouble with readers and "sources" (labeled "fake news"): Things make more sense in context!

Btw, what is "cyber" about this truck?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
9.1  CB   replied to  CB @9    2 weeks ago

Also, the comment points to how "Jetson" Musk really is. He is 'gone' with a head full of future tech! I love him for that alone! We need more like-minded thinkers like him, Beso, and Branson.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Principal
10  Hal A. Lujah    2 weeks ago

I remember seeing a prop comedian once (Carrot Top maybe?) who had this funny bit where he claimed to have designed a car that solves the problem of head on collisions.  The cars were wedge shaped so that oncoming cars would just jump over them like a ramp.  I think Elon Musk used it as inspiration.

 
 
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