U.S. in Talks to Pay Hundreds of Millions to Families Separated at Border
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The Biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the Trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation, according to people familiar with the matter, as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma .
The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services are considering payments that could amount to close to $1 million a family, though the final numbers could shift, the people familiar with the matter said. Most of the families that crossed the border illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. included one parent and one child, the people said. Many families would likely get smaller payouts, depending on their circumstances, the people said.
The American Civil Liberties Union, which represents families in one of the lawsuits, has identified about 5,500 children separated at the border over the course of the Trump administration, citing figures provided to it by the government. The number of families eligible under the potential settlement is expected to be smaller, the people said, as government officials aren’t sure how many will come forward. Around 940 claims have so far been filed by the families, the people said.
The total potential payout could be $1 billion or more.
As part of a so-called zero-tolerance enforcement policy, immigration agents separated thousands of children , ranging from infants to teenagers, from their parents at the southern border in 2018 after they had crossed illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. In some cases families were forcefully broken up with no provisions to track and later reunite them, government investigations found. The lawsuits allege some of the children suffered from a range of ailments, including heat exhaustion and malnutrition, and were kept in freezing cold rooms and provided little medical attention.
Many of the lawsuits describe lasting mental-health problems for the children from the trauma of the months without their parents in harsh conditions, including anxiety, a fear of strangers and nightmares. The lawsuits seek a range of payouts, with the average demand being roughly $3.4 million per family, some of the people said.
In recent months, lawyers for the families and the government have told courts overseeing the cases that they are engaged in settlement negotiations and hoped to reach a deal by the end of November.
“President Biden has agreed that the family separation policy is a historic moral stain on our nation that must be fully remedied,” said Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s immigrant-rights project and a lead negotiator on one of the lawsuits. “That remedy must include not only meaningful monetary compensation, but a pathway to remain in the country.”
In his first weeks in office, Mr. Biden pledged to reunite the separated families , describing those actions undertaken by the Trump administration a “moral and national shame.”
A DHS spokeswoman referred questions to the Justice Department, where a spokeswoman declined to comment. The Department of Health and Human Services didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Some Republicans criticized the potential payments on Thursday afternoon after The Wall Street Journal reported on them. “The Biden administration’s promises of citizenship and entitlement programs have already caused the worst border crisis in history—a huge cash reward will make it even worse,” Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas said.
The discussions about the payouts have taken place over the past few months among a group of dozens of private lawyers representing the families and government lawyers. Some government lawyers have viewed the payouts as excessive for people who had violated the law by crossing the border, the people said. One government lawyer threatened to remove his name from the case out of disagreement with the potential settlement offer, the people said.
In another instance, a Department of Homeland Security attorney involved in the settlement talks complained on a conference call that the payouts could amount to more than some families of 9/11 victims received, one person said. Other people said senior departmental officials were in alignment on the amount and disputed the 9/11 comparison, given that the U.S. government hadn’t been responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The 9/11 victim compensation fund averaged awards to the dead of around $2 million, tax-free, at the time an unprecedented payout, the administrator of the fund has said .
“Damage class actions in this kind of case are pretty rare, it’s hard to think of a recent comparison,” said Margo Schlanger, who ran the civil-rights office during the Obama administration at the Department of Homeland Security and now teaches at the University of Michigan law school. Ms. Schlanger said class-action compensation claims are more common in cases involving defective medical devices or other consumer products.
“It is a complicated, complex piece of litigation” to try to resolve hundreds of different lawsuits at the same time, and “sometimes even more complex to try the cases,” Ms. Schlanger said, adding that it made sense to try to resolve them together.
The Trump administration in May 2018 implemented a zero-tolerance approach , in which agents apprehended everyone crossing the border illegally, including those seeking asylum. That practice meant that children accompanying those adults were separated from their parents and put on a separate administrative track. The overall goal, the Trump administration said at the time, was to slow the number of people crossing the border illegally, but several of those officials have since apologized for the consequences of that policy.
Immigration law gives children greater legal protections than adults, so while the adults’ asylum cases could be dismissed quickly, allowing them to be deported, children mostly remained in the U.S. in child-welfare shelters or living with relatives. The Trump administration also hadn’t built a system to track which children belong to which parents before beginning to separate them.
A January report from the Justice Department’s inspector general faulted senior Trump Justice Department officials for knowing the policy change would result in families being separated, but pressing ahead without preparing for it.
President Trump ended the policy through an executive order on June 20, 2018, following bipartisan blowback and global condemnation.
Many of the families filed tort claims, a type of civil claim seeking damages for loss or harm, asking for compensation to cover mental-health treatment to address the emotional and psychological toll the practice took. Some of the cases were resolved under the Trump administration. In a 2019 settlement in New Jersey, for example, an adult and a minor received a total of $125,000 .
Most such cases remained pending at the start of the Biden administration. When Mr. Biden became president, he formed a task force to reunite the families that remained separated.
Settlement talks are also ongoing in a separate lawsuit, known as Ms. L V. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, in which the ACLU has asked the government to provide families with mental-health and other services, along with a permanent legal status.
Apart from talks over damages, the administration has already begun a process of locating deported parents and reuniting them with their children in the U.S. The administration has reunited 52 families and is in the process of reuniting about 200 more. The families are being given a three-year grant of parole, a form of temporary humanitarian protection that allows them to live and work legally in the U.S. but doesn’t offer them a path to permanent legal status.
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You have got to be friggin' kidding me.
Certainly seems to be par for the course that this administration is headed down.
So lawsuits stemming from the trump administration is the fault of Biden?
To right wingers everything is the fault of Biden or Obama.
It's the same as a robber suing his victim because of the trauma of being caught. A mind-numbingly stupid precedent...
Still can't blame Biden for it.
Yep. And here we are with people blaming Biden for something that trump did...
donald is costing us yet they want to shift blame elsewhere.
Ender - you really need to get up to date. Obama/Bush started this - quit trying to blame Trump for their stupidity.
How so? How is Obama or Bush even remotely responsible for a trump administration policy or for lawsuits that are happening because of donald's policy....
Hell it spells it out in the article you seeded...
No the f'ing idiot even considering paying the criminals is!
WTF is this mighty mental midget doing!?
There needs to be a full on investigation with a special prosecutor to find out where Biden's brains and morals have gone!
You have to be kidding.....
Do you all even read the article?
Some of the lawsuits were settled under the trump administration and the rest were pending.
I swear, you all will bend over backward to distort the truth to protect donald and attack Biden...
I swear you will defend the human fuckup machine that now occupies the WH no matter what. Biden is the anti Trump remember? That is the only reason he was elected. In this case he has out Trumped Trump.
Seems you can't do math either. $450,000 is far greater than $129,000. Not that giving money to illegal immigrants that violated our laws is ever going to be right.
I am sure Biden isn't done handing out US taxpayer money either to illegal immigrants. He has the whole International Bridge incident to apologize and make reparations for.
When is the left going to take full responsibility for the worst President ever, Joe Biden?
And you all will defend the fuck ups from donald.
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As Biden Mulls Compensation for Trump Border Policies, a Migrant Caravan Swells in Mexico (msn.com)
A good thing we never had caravans headed here before...oh wait....
Yeah well.. I would imagine none were as motivated as the current one.
Disgusting Corpse/Creep
Oh Hell no!
Unbelievable.
I didn't want to believe it but Biden really must hate Americans
So... Out of 5,500 children separated from their families, (the article is unclear how many families that represents) Only 52 families have been reunited after all this time? Sounds to me like we owe them every penny.
C'mon outta your pocket - ya mind?
I'm not happy about it coming out of my pocket but separating children from their families and then losing track of them so they cannot reunite with each other was one of the most cruel policies that our government has ever had. Even Trump reversed it but it was too late. It's up there with internment of Japanese Americans during WWII.
Absolutely!
Bazinga!
Unless we're all NAs we all came here illegally.
What if the people came here before the US was in fact the US?
What if those people helped make the US its own country?
Does that mean that they came here illegally too?
They still displaced people who were already here and had been for thousands of years
NA's are illegal aliens to the Clovis people and them perhaps to even earlier humans .... so there is that.
Well, gee MsAubrey. If they came before there was a U.S., what U.S. laws would they have broken?
2014 - Prez Obama began separating children from the "group" they were with - including parents/relatives - in McAllen, TX.
Nope, the modern-day NA's are direct descendants of the Clovis people. Who in turn are descendants of the Ancient Siberians and the Neo Siberians.
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Show us the law prohibiting Europeans settling in what is now the US.
That's ridiculous on a thousand levels.
The Japanese Americans that were interned during WW2 were either legal resident aliens or citizens and were here legally. Big difference from the illegal aliens detained now. The illegals deserve nothing but a one way ticket back to where they came from
So then by your logic I and my family members can expect a large check from the "Native Americans" anytime now. RIGHT?
Or even if they arrived at a legal port of entry and followed whatever immigration processes were in place at the time? You know...like all those people who came through Ellis Island....or the millions every year that follow exactly that process to immigrate from places all over the world.
They're not illegal, either.
Who in turn crossed the Beringia land bridge from Siberia when there were no humans occupying North America.
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"Who in turn crossed the Beringia land bridge from Siberia when there were no humans occupying North America."
WHAAA? They were what we know now as Native Americans, who lived for hundreds of years before the European conquistadors shot them dead, and poisoned them dead with their small pox blankets.
WTF is your point?
Agreed. I work with MANY legally immigrating people from all over the world. Trust me when I say, they dislike the ones coming illegally more than those that were naturalized citizens. Some of these people have been dealing with the immigration process [and its many hoops, not only from the US, but their own country of origin too] for darn near a decade and still aren't full fledged citizens YET.
Took me five years to get all the hoops and loops closed to get my wife and daughter through the process - total cost? $1,850 - for both. And the Illegals will "gladly" pay a coyote or trafficker $12,000?????? BS.
They, the wife and daughter, DO NOT like the Illegals and will blast them every time they have to get involved with them.
Did you know that people from India that immigrate here are required to denounce their citizenship of India before even beginning the citizenship process? I learned that from a coworker. Could you imagine being a citizen of NO country for a decade? That's some harsh stuff right there.
I didn't know that. Did you ask them why that is?
That is a law in India to obtain citizenship in any other country.
I must've misunderstood... it's once they are close to getting another country's citizenship or up to 90 days after.
I see. So India doesn't allow dual citizenship. Yeah, I would say that requires a real commitment.
Do you seriously think that we, the people i.e. taxpayers, owe these illegal immigrants that crossed our border illegally that much money for their inconvenience?
After we kidnapped their children, took them away from their families, and "lost" the records of where those children came from? Yes.
Those words don't mean what they think you do.
We don't owe then shit except a quick expulsion back to where they came from.
Just when I thought Biden couldn't do anything more stupid than abandoning US citizens in Afghanistan or the southern border crisis he goes and pulls this shit!
You comment is bullshit. The ones removed for extended periods of times were children with asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are not illegals.
So, you do not accept legal asylum seekers, as the law defines them?
They overwhelming majority if not all of those illegals coming here and claiming asylum are coming here for economic reasons. That is not a legitimate reason to seek asylum.
So you acknowledge that the overwhelming majority are asylum seekers. Thanks for that admission arkpdx.
That is not up to you, ICE, or border patrol to decide. That can only be legally decided with the proper procedure.
I sure don't, Ain't our fault they don't like it where they were. That is not our problem.
[deleted] I said the majority of asylum seekers not that the majority illegal aliens are seeking asylum. There is a large difference
Economic reasons aren't acceptable for a reason to seek asylum.
Dennis - the "latest" figures for asylum requesters receiving approved asylum is 'bout 15%.
15% is way too high
Do people really think Biden is smart enough to come up with all this on his own? He is surrounded by his handlers and other hard core liberal minions at all times that can probably get stuff put in front of him that they know he will rubber stamp.
This is getting to be much worse than President Carter's handlers.
Big difference between Carter's and Biden's presidency was while Carter genuinely loved this country and wanted only the best for it, however misguided he may have been. Sadly, I have seen no evidence of that from Biden.
How much are your children worth to you?
A simple question.
Why does Biden believe the lives of American soldiers are worth a fraction of the self induced problems of separation are worth to illegals?
We sent 1,7 million back to Mexico under title 42, the public health emergency order
Do the math.
"Do people really think Biden is smart enough to come up with all this on his own? He is surrounded by his handlers and other hard core liberal minions at all times that can probably get stuff put in front of him that they know he will rubber stamp."
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"He is surrounded by his handlers" BWHAHAHAHA!
Don't you realize - that was the "promise" the Republicans told us when Trump was elected? - "The adults will take care of him", blah-blah-blah. The Republican Party could NOT BELEIVE Trump won. So, they told us about the "adults in the room". Such bullshit!
Well, the adults "took care of the insane grampa" most of the time during Trump's reign, but not always. That's how we got Jan 6 insurrection.
Just saying
Trump is a hollow, narcissistic old man, a 10 year old child caught in a 70+ year old man's body. Really pathetic and worthy of shame and pity.
And yes, we do "think Biden is smart enough" - he's been in Congress for more than 40 years.
What does YOUR corpulent ogre have to offer to this country????
Hmmm? HMMM?
Just one word for you. IGNORE, because that is what you just went on. Go troll somebody else. Bye now.
Stay on topic.
Complete hockey pucks. The surge hit in February and Biden embraced title 42. SCOTUS had nothing to do with it.
You are confusing it with the Stay in Mexico plan.
Not gonna happen. Some folks just cannot help themselves from going off tangent and ranting.
Sounds like these so called children weren't children at all.
Whatever they were, they broke the law. Are we going to reward them for that with taxpayer money?
We separate citizens from their families every time we send someone to jail. Are we going to reward them for that with taxpayer money?
Where is the consistancy? This only applies to those separated under Trump. The same happened under Obama. Are we going to reward them for that with taxpayer money?
This is insane. Yet it is what we have come to expect from the American left.
I can just "see" all the ambulance chasing attorney's jumping on that Vic. So this could lead to the U.S. paying for all folks who are arrested and placed in jail if their children are separated from them???
Yup.
Let's see if somebody can stop the madness.
just "see" all the ambulance chasing attorney's jumping on tha
since ambulance chasers are a huge democratic donor group, it’s no coincidence they will engorge themselves with taxpayer money thanks to this
Huge cash payouts will surely stop the flow of illegal aliens.
If we give them even one dime let them collect the check at the US Embassy in what ever country they came from along with a court order declaring if they return to USA they will be jailed for two years then deported. Kids are separated from their parents every day in the USA when their parents break the law and are jailed, if there are no other family members that can take them the kids are taken into custody this is no different. Counter sue the parents for breaking the law and causing the problem to begin with.
This sounds like an great opportunity for some lawyers to make a great deal of money! Let's go over the facts:
1. While Trump's predecessors did occasionally separate children from parents in cases where a parental relationship was not proven, or where trafficking was suspected, the "No Tolerance Policy" started by Jeff Sessions on April 6, 2018 to more strictly enforce existing immigration law, did cause more separations to occur. But since there are no records of the number of separations by past administrations, and the reasons for the separations during Trump's zero tolerance policy were not broken down in more recent records, it will take years to sort out who gets what. And we know that the lawyers will get most of it!
2. The only reason that any sort of separation occurred in the first place is because the parents entered this country illegally and broke our laws. If they don't do the crime, no one does the time. So if this suit is successful we would essentially be rewarding people for committing a crime. Does that sound like a good idea?
3. On June 20, 2018 Trump signed an executive order to keep families together to the fullest extent of the law. So the unintended consequence of the zero tolerance policy that resulted in more separations, due to heightened enforcement of the actual immigration law, was stopped after only 2.5 months. The lawsuit appears to cover the time period of Trumps entire administration. Not sure how that will work because he actually stopped the practice of separation more completely than any other president before him on June 20, 2018.
So while the separation of children from their parents is a terrible thing, and it was recognized and corrected in fairly short order, the fact is that none of it happens if the parents aren't crossing illegally. And if we had been enforcing our immigration laws properly for the past several decades it likely would not have happened at all. The lawyers are going to back up the Brinks truck on this one, guaranteed! I think it would be best to focus on reuniting any families that have not already been, as that is the most important thing. Perhaps provide counseling for those children who need it, and call it a lesson learned. We need to better enforce immigration law, but we have to be able to assess the consequences of any policies that attempt to do that and be better prepared for those consequences.
So if previous administrations only separated people where no parental relationship was proven or suspected trafficking and trump made the practice against separation more complete, does that mean he did not separate people where the parental relationship was not established?
Because the would be the only result I can see from that statement.
Not clear on what you mean, but the zero tolerance policy, by attempting to better enforce current law, did result in more separations. The records are not clear on the exact reasons for the separations. Many of them could have been the same reasons used for separations by administrations past. Certainly you recall the pictures that went viral of kids in detention centers that turned out to be photos from the time of Obama's administration in 2014 .
My beef with Session's zero tolerance policy is that this consequence was not better anticipated and better prepared for in terms of logistics and record keeping, etc. In general, I have no qualms with attempts to better enforce our immigration laws, but consequences for enforcement policies need to be better anticipated. It took 2.5 months to realize the perhaps unintended result and while the zero tolerance policy was not ended, the separation of children from their parents was ended by Trump's executive order.
Who could not foresee problems with separating families to begin with?
If I remember correctly, a lot of people....
It was their policy.
You said donald made stopping separation more complete.
If separation only occurred where parental control was not established....
Not that hard to figure out really.
Good point. I meant that he actually made it strict policy whereas it had not been in the past. We don't have records on the number and reasons for detentions/separations in the past so we don't know what those reasons were. Trump's order sets the policy and establishes the ONLY reasons allowable for separation. It did still contain exceptions for when the DHS suspected a danger in keeping the "family" together.
Sorry I was not more clear on that.
No problem. I get what you are saying.
He only issued a presidential decree though that could be overturned at any time.
Sure. That was his only tool available since the law did not dictate a formal policy and actually allowed for family separation. The Legislative branch writes the laws (particularly in the case of Federal immigration law) and it is the duty of the Executive branch to enforce them. Name another president who has done a good job of that in the last 4 or 5 decades and how.
Name one in the last century...
I seem to remember the fact that some, not all probably, of the separations occurred due to the fact that the parents were put in jail and the law prohibited the children to get the same treatment.
That is correct.
And Jim, just why where they put in jail??? For entering the U.S. ILLEGALLY - duh.
So some want to put children in adult jails?
Of course not, but here in America it all too often comes down to a sharp/calculating lawyer getting a very sympathetic individual in front of the right judge. That becomes the starting point for all the cases that will follow.
They committed a crime by knowingly illegality crossing the US border, the only thing they should get is to be removed from here.
Can’t say i’m surprised, par for the course for these America last bunch of morons.
They'll be catapulting kids over the wall.
The kids are put on busses, cleaned up at lavish hotels and brought to the oval office for sniffings. Our President deserves a fresh kid for every sniff, he's the leader of the free world dammit!
She's a lesbian. He touches her and she will open a can of whoopass on him
Put it on pay per view. That would almost be worth paying money to watch.
What about the kids crossing right now NOT with their families but with anyone they could find that was coming. AND the ones all alone? This is bullshit. Total bullshit. Right up there with reparations for the relatives of slaves.
They broke the law. So we pay them? What part of ILLEGAL aliens do these people not understand?
Beyond dumbass.............SMH
In the Dem/Lib world, if you throw money at it, it'll go away.
Not in this case. It'll just make it more enticing to break more of the U.S. laws/rules/regulations/Constitution - AND - possibly get paid for breaking those laws.
where do i sign up?
Exactly.
We've seen how that's worked for them over the years.
The very definition of insanity.
May as well make it an addendum to the definition of stupidity.
Republicans demand answers from Biden Cabinet on reported payments to illegal immigrants: 'Horrific decision' (msn.com)
We should give them a peanut butter and jelly sandwich as we shove them across the border back into Mexico.
100k military death benefit in service of your country
450k "reparation" for coming to the USA illegally
Unbelievable!!
Embarrassing!!
Our service members families who died in Biden’s clusterfuck that was the Afghanistan withdrawal will receive $100,000 for the life of their loved one and people who break our laws can receive $450,000. What a slap in the face!!
That is this administration's policy - throw money at it - it'll go away.
Always the Democrat way.......................
In defense of Biden it wasn't just his CF.
However, this 450k for illegal aliens thing is 100% his and IS absolutely 100% disgusting
Why because Trump already picked the low hanging fruit for $125,000?
Your right, it wasn't just his CF.
Blame the lawyers who have dragged it out this far for a beefier pay check.
Let's see how much the families actually get, probably 25% after a mountain of office fees and the lawyers cut.
That's 25% too much. There is also a big difference between $125,000 and $450,000. Both are way too much big Biden amount is down right obscene.
Deflection shields up scotty .......
Nah, i put the blame squarely where it belongs.
On the asshats who would propose to pay law breakers 450k when they only pay a 100k death benefit to families who lost a loved one who was serving their country.
It so unconscionable i can't believe anyone WOULDN"T question such a travesty but ..... i guess one must consider the source.
Biden and the dems show who they value.
Trump settled first. Go fish.
OK - you threw out the bait, how 'bout showing some links to support that.
Don't bother, it's just more whataboutism intended to deflect from the main point.
The 450k
Why would I link your seed? Did you not read the whole thing?
Fourth paragraph from the bottom.
Have you even read the court case?
*The parties reached a settlement agreement before the Court ruled on this discovery dispute."
There are many "things" that occurred prior to Ms. Alvarado getting detained - all of which led to the settlement.
Read the case - you'll get a different understanding of the many layers involved in the settlement decision.
They get nothing, they should have stayed where they belonged.
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis: "You're going to do $475,000 for an individual that came illegally to this country? I've seen a lot in my day, [...] but this takes the cake. If that is done, that is going to be a slap in the face to every hard-working American who plays by the rules."
Not to mention a real kick in the crotch to every family who lost a loved one in military service to their country and got a 100k death benefit.
It's unbelievable, complete unbelievable.
I identify as "separated at the border", when can I expect my $450k?
The Matamoras drunk tank does NOT count as "separated at the border".
Doh
Sure it does if he was separated from his father Don Julio...
And they want me to pay taxes for this kind of stuff?
Good news....Joe Biden acted like it was the first time he had ever heard about it last night when Peter Doocey asked him about it....Biden said it ain't gonna happen.
"Biden was questioned about the reports by Fox News ' Peter Doocy on Wednesday and flatly rejected them – calling them "garbage" when asked if it would incentivize further illegal immigration.
"If you guys keep sending that garbage out? Yeah, but it's not true," he said."
I don’t know. This part has me wondering
So maybe they have a different amount in mind?
Oh ya, that was an open ended statement that others will fill in within hours if not days.
White House walks back Biden comments on migrant families payments http:// hill.cm/RPZxKAP
Wow. They couldn't get Psaki to do that with a straight face.
Right now Jen's face is twisted in agony.
Psaki got the COVID ......
That she did. Do you have the feeling that some are staging a revolt?
Who knows, maybe she's just at home boning up on her deflection technique.
I knew it.
White House spox: Biden is “perfectly comfortable” with the American taxpayer funding cash payments for illegal immigrants."
We’ve gone from “that’s garbage” to “perfectly comfortable” in 24 hours
A fly on Biden's wall overheard:
I don't know what these people are so mad at. I mean, 450k?
That's like only one of Hunters crappy paintings that he did in five minutes ............
“Brandon” is going to get even more popular, because radical policies aren't really working.
Neither is the planned revolt we are now seeing here on NT.
Lol ..... the NV mafia up to no good as usual?
Lol, it would seem so. These power plays always seem to boomerang. Kind of like what happened to progressives on Tuesday night.
Let's enjoy it for now, welcome the newbie and watch Pelosi try and get another vote this morning.
(She looks like she just had a bad bowl of Chili)
No worries, she has plenty of fancy ice cream in her 25k freezer to put out any fires
LMAO! And in about a year from now, she'll have lot's of time to enjoy it. Right now she is trying to pass a bill in the House that meets none of Joe Manchin's conditions. Let's just say she has little respect for him.
This is what that $450K gets us:
Illegal immigrant who posed as teen arraigned in Florida murder
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Why post demonstrably false Bullshit?
The ACLU has been suing and enlarging a class action law suit against multiple US government agencies including DoJ, HHS
, HHS and others over the separation of children from their parents since 2017, winning an injunction against the Jeff Sessions
practice in 2018.
Imagine beating a dead horse almost 8 days later, even after the POTUS laughed and said "$450K"?
"Not gonna happen"
and here you are trying to soft sell an absolutely false equivalence based on something that hasn't happened.
Sad.