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Opinion | Trump Won’t Let America Go. Can Democrats Pry It Away?

  

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Opinion | Trump Won’t Let America Go. Can Democrats Pry It Away?
Theda Skocpol, a professor of sociology and government at Harvard, argued in an email that The radicalized G.O.P. is the main anti-democratic force. Trump plays a crucial threatening role, but I think things have now moved to the point that many Republican Party officials and elected officeholders are self-starters. If Trump disappears or steps back, other Trumpists will step up, many are already in power.

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Opinion | Trump Won’t Let America Go. Can Democrats Pry It Away?


Thomas B. Edsall 20-25 minutes   12/8/2021



Guest Essay

Dec. 8, 2021,   5:00 a.m. ET


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Thomas B. Edsall

Mr. Edsall contributes a weekly column from Washington, D.C. on politics, demographics and inequality.

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Do you believe,   as   many   political activists and theorists   do , that the contemporary Republican Party   poses   a   threat   to democracy? After all, much of its current leadership refuses to accept the results of the 2020 presidential election and is dead set on undermining the concept of one person, one vote.

If it does pose such a threat, does that leave the Democratic Party as the main institutional defender of democracy?

If the Democratic Party has been thrust into that role — whether it wants it or not — recent election results and adverse polling trends suggest that it stands a good chance of losing both branches of Congress in 2022 and that Trump or a Trump clone could win the presidency in 2024.

The issue then becomes a question of strategic emphasis. Do Democratic difficulties grow more out of structural advantages of the Republican Party — better geographic distribution of its voters, the small-state tilt of the Electoral College and the Senate, more control over redistricting? Or do their difficulties stem from Democratic policies and positions that alienate key blocs of the electorate?



If, as   much evidence shows ,   working class defections   from the Democratic Party are driven more by   cultural, racial, and gender issues   than by economics — many non-college whites are in fact supportive of   universal redistribution programs   and   increased taxes   on the rich and corporations — should the Democratic Party do what it can to minimize those sociocultural points of dispute, or should the party stand firm on policies promoted by its progressive wing?

I asked a group of scholars and Democratic strategists versions of these questions.

Three conclusions stood out.

There was near unanimous agreement that the Republican Party under the leadership of Donald Trump is a threat to democracy, but disagreement over the degree of the danger.


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There was across the board opposition to the creation of a third party on the grounds that it would split the center and the left.

In addition, a striking difference emerged when it came to the choice of strategic responses to the threat, between those who emphasize the built-in structural advantages benefiting the Republican Party and those who contend that Democrats should stand down on some of the more divisive cultural issues in order to regain support among   working class   voters, white, Black and Hispanic.



Theda Skocpol , a professor of sociology and government at Harvard, argued in an email that


The radicalized G.O.P. is the main anti-democratic force. Trump plays a crucial threatening role, but I think things have now moved to the point that many Republican Party officials and elected officeholders are self-starters. If Trump disappears or steps back, other Trumpists will step up, many are already in power.

Skocpol’s point:


Only repeated decisive electoral defeats would open the door to intraparty transformations, but the Electoral College, Senate non-metro bias and House skew through population distribution and gerrymandering make it unlikely that, in our two-party system, Democrats can prevail decisively.

Because the Democratic Party is structurally weakened by the rural tilt of the Senate and the Electoral College — and especially vulnerable to gerrymandered districts because its voters are disproportionately concentrated in metro areas — the party “may not have enough elected power to accomplish basic voter and election protection reforms. Very bad things may happen soon,” Skocpol wrote. Republicans are positioned, she continued, “to undo majority democracy for a long time.”

At the same time, Skocpol is sharply critical of trends within the Democratic Party:


The advocacy groups and big funders and foundations around the Democratic Party — in an era of declining unions and mass membership groups — are pushing moralistic identity-based causes or specific policies that do not have majority appeal, understanding, or support, and using often weird insider language (like “Latinx”) or dumb slogans (“Defund the police”) to do it.

The leaders of these groups, Skocpol stressed,


often claim to speak for Blacks, Hispanics, women etc. without actually speaking to or listening to the real-world concerns of the less privileged people in these categories. That is arrogant and politically stupid. It happens in part because of the over-concentration of college graduate Democrats in isolated sectors of major metro areas, in worlds apart from most other Americans.

Along similar lines,   William Galston , a senior fellow at Brookings and former White House aide during the Clinton administration, wrote, “For the first time in my life, I have come to believe that the stability of our constitutional institutions can no longer be taken for granted.”

Galston argues that the progressive wing of the Democratic Party threatens to limit, if not prevent, efforts to enlarge support: “Everything depends on how much the Democrats really want to win. Some progressives, I fear, would rather be the majority in a minority party than the minority in a majority party.”

“In my view,” Galston continued,


the issue is not so much ideology as it is class. Working-class people with   less than a college degree   have an outlook that differs from that of the educated professionals whose outlook has come to dominate the Democratic Party. To the dismay of Democratic strategists, class identity may turn out to be more powerful that ethnic identity, especially for Hispanics.

Democratic leaders generally and the Biden administration specifically, Galston said, have “failed to discharge, or even to recognize” their most important mission, the prevention of “Donald Trump returning to the Oval Office. They cannot do this with a program that drives away independents, moderates, and suburban voters, whose support made Biden’s victory possible.”

The party’s “principal weakness,” Galston observes “lies in the realm of culture, which is why race, crime and schools have emerged as such damaging flash points.” In this context, “the Biden administration has failed to articulate views on immigration, criminal justice, education and related issues that a majority of Americans can support.”

Not all of those I contacted have such a dire outlook.

Frances Lee , a political scientist at Princeton, for example, agrees that “American democracy faced an unprecedented threat in 2020 when a sitting president refused to acknowledge electoral defeat,” but, she continued, “this threat was thwarted, to a great extent by that president’s own party. American democracy exhibited significant resilience in the face of the threat Trump posed.”

This, Lee points out, is “a story of Republicans judges and elected officials upholding democracy at personal cost to their own popularity with Republican voters. Republican elected officials in a number of cases sacrificed their political ambitions in service to larger democratic ideals.”



Lee cautioned that polls showing majorities of Republican voters questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election should be taken with a grain of salt:


It is likely that a significant share of those who profess such beliefs are just simply telling pollsters that they still support Trump. I would not declare the death of democratic legitimacy on the basis of what people say in public opinion polls, particularly given that Republican elected officials all across the country participated in upholding the validity of the 2020 outcome.

Lee does agree that “election subversion is by far the most serious threat to American democracy,” and she contends that those seeking to protect democracy should “should focus on the major threat: Trump’s ongoing effort to delegitimize American elections and Republicans’ efforts in some states to undermine nonpartisan election administration.”

Jennifer L. Hochschild , a professor of government at Harvard, wrote by email that she “certainly see threats, but I am not at all sure right now how deeply I think they undermine American democracy. If the Civil War (or more relevantly here, 1859-60) is the end of one continuum of threat, I don’t think we are close to that yet.”

At the same time, she cautioned,


the Democratic Party over the past few decades has gotten into the position of appearing to oppose and scorn widely cherished institutions — conventional nuclear family, religion, patriotism, capitalism, wealth, norms of masculinity and femininity, then saying “vote for me.” Doesn’t sound like a winning strategy to me, especially given the evident failure to find a solution to growing inequality and the hollowing out of a lot of rural and small-town communities. I endorse most or all of those Democratic positions, but the combination of cultural superiority and economic fecklessness is really problematic.

Sean Westwood , a political scientist at Dartmouth, is broadly cynical about the motives of members of both political parties.

“The finger pointing and sanctimony on the left is hardly earned,” Westwood replied to my emailed inquiries. Not only is there a long history of Democratic gerrymanders and dangerous assertions of executive power, he continued, but Democrats “can claim virtually no credit for upholding the outcome of the election. Courageous Republican officials affirmed the true vote in Arizona and Georgia and the Republican vice president certified the outcome before Congress.”

The “true problem,” Westwood wrote,


is that both parties are willing to undermine democratic norms for short-term policy gains. This is not a behavior that came from nowhere — the American public is to blame. We reward politicians who attack election outcomes, who present the opposition as subhuman and who avoid meaningful compromise.

Westwood, however, does agree with Skocpol and Galston’s critique of the Democratic left:


If the Democratic Party wants to challenge Republicans they need to move to the center and attempt to peel away centrist Republicans. Endorsing divisive policies and elevating divisive leaders only serves to make the Democrats less appealing to the very voters they need to sway to win.

The Democrats, in Westwood’s view,


must return to being a party of the people and not woke-chasing elites who don’t understand that canceling comedians does not help struggling Americans feed their children. When it comes to financial policy Democrats are far better at protecting the poor, but this advantage is lost to unnecessary culture wars. Democrats need to stop wasting their time on cancel culture or they risk canceling themselves to those who live in the heart of this country.

ALG Research , one of the firms that polled for the 2020 Biden campaign, conducted postelection focus groups in Northern Virginia and suburban Richmond in an attempt to explore the success of Glenn Youngkin, the Republican who defeated Terry McAuliffe in the Virginia governor’s race a month ago.

A report on the study of 2020 Biden voters who backed Youngkin or seriously considered doing so by   Brian Stryker , an ALG partner, and   Oren Savir , a senior associate, made the case that the election was “not about ‘critical race theory,’ as some analysts have suggested.” Instead, they continued, many swing voters knew that


C.R.T. wasn’t taught in Virginia schools. But at the same time, they felt like racial and social justice issues were overtaking math, history and other things. They absolutely want their kids to hear the good and the bad of American history, at the same time they are worried that racial and cultural issues are taking over the state’s curricula.

ALG focus group participants


thought Democrats are only focused on equality and fairness and not on helping people. None of these Biden voters associated our party with helping working people, the middle class, or people like them. They thought we were more focused on breaking down social barriers facing marginalized groups. They were all for helping marginalized groups, but the fact that they couldn’t point to anything we are doing to help them was deeply concerning.

In a parallel argument,   Ruy Teixeira , senior fellow at the pro-Democratic Center for American Progress, wrote in an essay, “ Democrats, Not Republicans, Need to Defuse the Culture Wars ,” that


Democrats are not on strong ground when they have to defend views that appear wobbly on rising violent crime, surging immigration at the border and non-meritocratic, race-essentialist approaches to education. They would be on much stronger ground if they became identified with an inclusive nationalism that emphasizes what Americans have in common and their right not just to economic prosperity but to public safety, secure borders and a world-class but nonideological education for their children.

Looking at the dangers facing American democracy from a different vantage point,   Steven Levitsky , a professor of government at Harvard and co-author of the book “How Democracies Die,” rejected the argument that Democrats need to constrain the party’s liberal wing.

“The Democrats have been amazingly successful in national elections over the last 20 years,” Levitsky wrote in an email.


They have won the popular vote in 7 out of 8 presidential elections — that’s almost unthinkable. They have also won the popular vote in the Senate in every six-year cycle since 2000. You cannot look at a party in a democracy that has won the popular vote almost without fail for two decades and say, gee, that party really has to get it together and address its “liabilities.”

Instead, he argued,


the liabilities lie in undemocratic electoral institutions such as the Electoral College, the structure of the Senate (where underpopulated states have an obscene amount of power that should be unacceptable in any democracy), gerrymandered state and federal legislative districts in many states, and recent political demographic trends — the concentration of Democratic votes in cities — that favor Republicans.

“Until our parties are competing on a level playing field,” Levitsky added, “I am going to insist that our institutions are a bigger problem for democracy than liberal elitism and ‘wokeness.’ ”



Jacob Hacker , a professor of political science at Yale, takes a similar position, writing by email:


There are powerful economic and social forces at work here, and they’re particularly powerful in the United States, given that it has a deep history of racial inequality and division and it is on the leading edge of the transformation toward a knowledge economy in which educated citizens are concentrated in urban metros. The question, then, is how much Democrat elites’ strategic choices matter relative to these powerful forces. I lean toward thinking they’re less important than we typically assume.

Instead, Hacker argued, the Republican Party has become


particularly dangerous because it rests on an increasing commitment to and reliance on what we called “countermajoritarianism” — the exploitation of the anti-urban and status quo biases of the American political system, which allow an intense minority party with a rural base and mostly negative policy agenda to gain and wield outsized power.

The conservative strategy, which Hacker calls “minoritarianism,” means that “Republicans can avoid decisive defeats even in the most unfavorable circumstances. There is very little electoral incentive for the party to moderate.”

The result? “Neither electoral forces nor organized interests are much of a guardrail against a G.O.P. increasingly veering off the nation’s once-established democratic path.”

Julie Wronski , a professor of political science at the University of Mississippi, described the systemic constraints on the Democratic Party in an email:


In the current two-party system, the Democratic Party isn’t just the crucial institutional advocate of democracy. It is the only political entity that can address the federal and state-level institutions that undermine full and equal democratic representation in the United States. Decisive victories should be enough to send a message that Americans do not support anti-democratic behavior.

The problem for Democrats, Wronski continued, is that


decisive victories are unlikely to occur at the national level because of the two-party system and partisan gerrymanders. Winning elections (while necessary) is not enough, especially if core constituencies of Democratic voters are explicitly targeted through state-level voting restrictions and gerrymanders.

Those who would seek to restore respect for democratic norms in Trump’s Republican Party   face   another set of problems, according to Wronski. At the moment, she writes, a fundamental raison d’être of the Republican Party is to prevent the political consignment “to minority status” of “whites, and in particular white Christians, whose share of the population, electorate, and federal-level office holders is diminishing.” This commitment effectively precludes the adoption of a more inclusive strategy of “appealing to racial, ethnic, and religious minority voters,” because such an appeal would amount to the abandonment of the Republican Party’s implicit (and often quite explicit) promise to prevent “the threat of minority status that demographic change poses to white Christians.”

Ryan Enos , a professor of government at Harvard, anticipates, at least in the short term, a worsening of the political environment:


Trump has the support of nearly half of American voters and is very likely to run for president in 2024. Given electoral trends, there is a high likelihood that he will win. Moreover, even if he doesn’t win legitimately, there is little doubt that he will once again try to subvert the election outcome. At that point, his party is likely to control both houses of Congress and he may be successful in his efforts.

Enos argued in an email that “the liabilities of the Democratic Party can be overstated” when there is


a more fundamental problem in that the working-class base, across racial groups, of the Democratic Party has eroded and is further eroding. That Democrats may not have yet hit rock bottom with working-class voters is terrifying for the future of the party. As much as people want to point to cultural issues as the primary reason for this decline in support, the wheels on the decline were put in motion by macroeconomic trends and policies that made the economic and social standing of working-class people in the United States extremely tenuous.

Those trends worked to the advantage of Democrats as recently as the election of Barack Obama, Enos continued, when many working-class voters “looking for change, even voted for a Black man with a foreign-sounding name in 2008.” But, Enos continued, “when the Republican Party stumbled into a populist message of anti-elitism, protectionism, cultural chauvinism, and anti-immigration, it was almost inevitable that it would accelerate the pull of working-class voters toward Republicans.”

At the moment, Enos believes, the outlook is bleak:


Given the current institutional setup in the United States and the calcified nature of partisanship, I am not sure that Republicans can ever experience large-scale electoral defeat of the type that would shake them from their current path. In 2020, they were led by the most unpopular president in modern history running during a disastrous time for U.S. society and they still didn’t lose by much. That, perhaps, is the real issue — even though they are massively unpopular, partially because of their anti-democratic moves — the nature of U.S. elections means that they will never truly be electorally punished enough to cause them to reform.

All of this raises a key question. Has the Republican Party passed a tipping point to become, irrevocably, the voice of ultranationalist racist authoritarianism?

It may be that in too many voters’ minds the Democratic Party has also crossed a line and that Democratic adoption of more centrist policies on cultural issues — in combination with a focus on economic and health care issues — just won’t be enough to counter the structural forces fortifying the Republican minority, its by-any-means-necessary politics and its commitment to white hegemony.

The Biden administration is, in fact, pushing an agenda of economic investment and expanded health care, but the public is not yet responding. Part of this failure lies with the administration’s suboptimal messaging. More threatening to the party, however, is the possibility that a growing perception of the Democratic Party as wedded to progressive orthodoxies now blinds a large segment of the electorate to the positive elements — let’s call it a trillion-dollar bread-and-butter strategy — of what Biden and his party are trying to do.









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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

I have said independents should bite the bullet and refrain from attacking Biden, but I also believe our dire situation may also require that progressives cut back on some of their demands in order to gain back white working class votes. 

Once we get past Trumpism in a decade or so we can go back to a more normal alignment of political beliefs. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
but I also believe our dire situation may also require that progressives cut back on some of their demands in order to gain back white working class votes. 

Yes. Absolutely. We need to cut back on the pork. I'm all for fueling money into road projects or broad band internet, but some of the far left have ideas that just need to be thrown in the fire place

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

DeSantis and others will pick up torch going forward

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago

Why on Earth should independents stop saying what they believe about Joe?  Maybe if the Dems want to "pry America away" they could stop giving so much voice to their far left whack jobs and stop calling independents that don't buy into their bullshit racist.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2  Sparty On    3 years ago

Nope.   Don't need Trump.    Many of us won't let progressive wack-a-doodles take over John.

Ain't gonna happen, no way, no how John ......

And you still can't see it ........jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @2    3 years ago

It would be nice if you could occasionally make comments beyond one or two snide sentences, but I'm pretty sure thats not gonna happen. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago

Bet on it!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1    3 years ago
snide

Opinions do vary John.  

A difference of opinion is not "snide" per se.   It is usually, as is this case here, simply a different opinion.  

That you may not like an opposing opinion, is really inconsequential and meaningless.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.2    3 years ago

More often than not you just create word salads. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 years ago

Actually i simply disagree with your position a lot.   Which very likely coincides directly with what you are calling "word salads."

You tend to be heavily vexed by anyone who disagrees with you.   Me?   Not so much.

I respect your opinion, i just don't agree with it very often.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Sparty On @2.1.4    3 years ago

He has a long history of those condescending subtle insults when he can't come up with a cogent response.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.5    3 years ago

John can be very thoughtful when he wants to be.   Which really just makes it worse when he's not.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    3 years ago

Republicans will win 40-60 House seats and take over the Senate. The people aren't buying the crap and lies the Dems are trying to foist upon them. The far left extremists have lost the independents and, likely, a good number of moderate old fashioned Democrats

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4  Sparty On    3 years ago

 ..... i saw this morning that Macron was worried about American Wokeism and stated that France must resist it.

Amazing!

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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5  Nerm_L    3 years ago

Well, at least there is a beginning of awareness that 'Trump and Trumpism' is a threat to liberal technocracy.  And the seeded article highlights why a liberal technocracy is anathema to democracy.  The academic elitist attitude is attempting to restrict and confine democracy to the electoral process; democracy has no place in governing.  Actual governing is subject to the whims and biases of the liberal technocracy.

Democrats abandoned democracy in governing long ago.  Democrats rigged elections to claim a mandate for doing what they damn well pleased.  The Simpson-Bowles Commission was the liberal technocracy run amok.  And Democrats claimed a democratic mandate to impose the very authoritarian Obamacare onto the country while bailing out the financial sector.

The Republican Party won the 2020 election down ballot.  The liberal technocracy can lie to themselves about the election results impact on redistricting but the voting public isn't that stupid or delusional.  The voting public did not stay home; voter participation was quite high in 2020.  And the elitist technocratic attitude that voters were too ignorant to know what they were allowing certainly isn't defending the democratic electoral process.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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5.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @5    3 years ago
Well, at least there is a beginning of awareness that 'Trump and Trumpism' is a threat to liberal technocracy.

Liberal technocracy now?  What happened to liberal socialism, or liberal communism, or liberal fascism?

I guess this is what I get for updating my spam filter, never knew that liberal technocracy is the next conservative Russian propaganda point.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
5.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @5.1    3 years ago
Liberal technocracy now?  What happened to liberal socialism, or liberal communism, or liberal fascism?

Congress has been ceding its legislative responsibilities to bureaucracies.  Congress has established broad guidance and delegated the authority to govern by bureaucratic regulation.  The EPA is an example where actual governing is determined by expert opinion coming mostly from academia; although activist elites are now injecting themselves into the regulatory process of governing.  The EPA is not an example of democracy in application.

The EPA is an example of liberal technocracy.  The EPA model has become the preferred method of governing.  The Federal Election Commission is another example of liberal technocracy that has independent regulatory governing authority.  The Federal Reserve is another example of liberal technocracy that is independent from executive accountability and avoids legislative oversight.  The FBI has claimed independence from executive accountability and legislative oversight which is not an example of democracy in application.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
6  Sean Treacy    3 years ago

oes that leave the Democratic Party as the main institutional defender of democracy?

what a funny idea. The party that has spent the entire century claiming every election they lost was stolen, that despite ever increasing voter participation, a voter suppression conspiracy is undermining  our democracy and is currently contemplating destroying our Supreme Court in the most partisan way possible through a court packing scheme.

Democrats like to pretend the 20 years before November 2020 don't exist. That they didn't spend decades plant the seeds of electoral conspiracy in the public mind that Trump could cultivate.  If the Democrats want to be the "institutional  defender" of Democracy they can start by owning their own role in undermining it and treat all of their own election conspiracists the way they want Republicans to treat Trump. Tend to their own garden before engaging in partisan attacks against Trump. Of course, that will never happen. Look at how the national party rallied to serial conspiracist Terry McAuliffe in  Virginia and made a celebrity of Stacy Abrams, whose only famous for claiming the Republicans stole the gubernatorial election from her.  Any party who looks to Putin's stooge, Adam Schiff, for leadership cannot be an institutional defender of democracy. 

 
 

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