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Ukrainian president agrees to talks as Putin puts his nuclear forces on alert

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  2 years ago  •  17 comments

By:   Yuliya Talmazan and Teaganne Finn

Ukrainian president agrees to talks as Putin puts his nuclear forces on alert
President Vladimir Putin ordered Russia's nuclear deterrent forces to be on high alert, ratcheting up tensions as Ukraine agreed to talks in Belarus.

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President Vladimir Putin on Sunday ordered Russia's nuclear deterrent forces to be on high alert, ratcheting up tensions as Ukraine agreed to talks with Russian officials and the European Union moved to close its airspace to all Russian planes.

In a statement, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he had agreed to meet with the Russians on the border of Belarus "without preconditions" after speaking with that country's president, Alexander Lukashenko. Lukashenko, a Putin ally, "has taken responsibility for ensuring that all planes, helicopters and missiles stationed on Belarusian territory will remain on the ground during the Ukrainian delegation's travel, talks and return," Zelenskyy's office said.

Latest updates on Ukraine:

  • The European Union announces it is closing its airspace to all Russian aircraft, while UPS and FedEx say they are suspending service to the country.
  • Putin puts his military's nuclear deterrent forces on high alert after what he calls "aggressive statements" from the West.
  • Ukraine agrees to negotiations with Russia on the border with neighboring Belarus.
  • Kyiv remains in Ukrainian hands after fierce fighting; Ukraine says it took back controlof Kharkiv, the country's second-largest city.
  • Russian forces block southern Ukrainian cities with the apparent aim of seizing the coastline.
  • At least 368,000 Ukrainians are fleeing westward, becoming refugees near the border and in neighboring countries .

Zelenskyy had said his government would not attend negotiations in Belarus, a close ally of Moscow's, where thousands of Russian troops massed in the lead-up to the invasion last week. He later said he doubted the meeting, which was to take place near the Pripyat River, would produce results but that he went ahead with it "so that no citizen of Ukraine would have any doubt that I, as president, did not try to stop the war when there was a small chance." Zelenskyy added that he would remain in Kyiv while the talks proceeded.

Russia, like NATO and the U.S., has thousands of nuclear warheads in its arsenal. By putting nuclear deterrence forces on high alert for what he called the "aggressive statements" of NATO countries, Putin raised the global stakes of the conflict to a far deadlier level.

A senior Defense Department official suggested the nuclear readiness of NATO and Russia was not to be taken lightly, even amid a historic invasion. Putin's escalation, which the Pentagon had no reason to doubt, "could make things much, much, more dangerous," the official said Sunday during an evening briefing held on background.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in an earlier interview on MSNBC that Putin's move was "exactly the kind of manufactured threats" that he has been using since the invasion started "to justify further aggressive action."

Speaking on CBS' "Face the Nation," the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said Putin "is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable." The U.N. Security Council voted Sunday afternoon to convene a rare emergency special session of the General Assembly on Monday to address the Russian invasion.

E.U., U.S. sanctions


As the fighting continued into its fourth day, the president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, announced that the European Union would close its airspace to all Russian planes — a move that some European countries had taken individually. Von der Leyen also said the E.U. was banning Russian state media and sanctioning Belarus for its involvement in the invasion.

European leaders are also in step with the U.S. in efforts to target the assets of Russian oligarchs and sanctioned companies, a senior White House official said, adding that the Biden administration is launching a trans-Atlantic task force to identify any "ill-gotten gains" from elites close to Putin and the Russian government. That is in addition to severe sanctions placed on Putin's personal assets and Russian banks over the last several days.

Switzerland's president, Ignazio Cassis, also said Sunday that it was "very probable" his country would join the efforts to sanction Russia and freeze its assets.

With more and more flights out of Russia being canceled and swaths of airspace being shut down, the U.S. Embassy there urged all Americans in the country to depart "immediately." Separately, FedEx and UPS said they were suspending shipments to Russia, as well as Ukraine, and the British oil giant BP said it was abandoning its 20 percent stake in the Russian state-controlled oil company Rosneft.

The U.S. and the E.U.'s actions came after Washington and allies escalated sanctions on Russia over the weekend, including blocking certain Russian banks from accessing SWIFT, a service that facilitates global transactions among thousands of financial institutions. Japan also said Sunday that it would join that move.

Von der Leyen also said the E.U. would deliver military equipment to Ukraine in what she called "a watershed moment" — the first time the E.U. has financed the purchase and delivery of weapons for a country under attack. The move followed a decision by Germany and other countries to provide Ukraine with weapons and supplies. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, meanwhile, put out a new call Sunday for more weapons, including "more air-to-air and ground-to-air missiles to counter invaders. We need more drones, more vehicles, aircraft artillery, guns, machine guns, ammunition."

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Fierce fighting


Earlier in the day, Ukraine said it had taken back control of its second-largest city, Kharkiv, after fighting pitched street battles with the Russian forces, and Kyiv residents awoke to find that the capital was still in Ukrainian hands.

"Anyone who wants to join the defense of Ukraine, Europe and the world can come and fight side by side with the Ukrainians," Zelenskyy's office said in a statement. "There is no greater contribution which you can make for the sake of peace."

Kuleba,the foreign minister, echoed the call, inviting foreigners to contact Ukraine's foreign diplomatic missions in their respective countries.

Russian vehicles broke into Kharkiv, a city of 1.4 million people 25 miles south of the border with Russia, and engaged in intense street fighting with the Ukrainian forces. The head of the Kharkiv regional administration, Oleh Sinegubov, said later that Ukrainians had regained control of the city. "Control over Kharkiv is completely ours!" Sinegubov said in a message on the Telegram messaging app.

NBC News teams in the country witnessed Ukrainians rallying to repel the invaders, with chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel seeing people in the towns and villages he has passed filling sandbags, manning checkpoints and standing armed at crossroads.

The senior U.S. defense official said Sunday that the U.S. continues to see Russian momentum slowed by the stiff Ukrainian resistance and logistical challenges, including fuel shortages. While the Russian military has sent about two-thirds of the forces that were amassed around Ukraine into the country, it has not been able to take control of any cities, the official said.

The resistance, the official said, is "heroic, it's inspiring," but Russia still has an operational advantage, with "an awful lot of combat power" arrayed in and outside Ukraine.

Russian reconnaissance troops have tried to enter Kyiv's center by wearing uniforms that make them appear to be Ukrainian troops, the official said. But the country's forces and even some locals have been successful in ferreting them out.

Speaking in a video message posted on his Instagram account Sunday, Zelenskyy said the night around the country was "brutal." Russian forces were targeting residential buildings, kindergartens and even ambulances, he said. Russia has denied it has been targeting civilians.

Kyiv remained under strict curfew until 8 a.m. local time Monday, complicating the task of assessing the intensity of the fighting, as residents were told to avoid venturing out onto the streets and to seek shelter.

Mayor Vitali Klitschko said there were clashes with Russian "sabotage groups" overnight but that they had been "destroyed" and that there were no Russian troops in the capital. He later said Kyiv, a city of nearly 3 million people, was "encircled" by Russian forces, The Associated Press reported; the news service said it was unable to immediately verify Klitschko's report or how wide the area of encirclement might be because of the curfew.

Russian munitions struck a radioactive waste site in the city overnight, but there were no immediate signs of damage or radioactive release, the International Atomic Energy Agency said.

Russian forces on Sunday blocked the southern Ukrainian cities of Kherson, a port and gateway into the Black Sea, and the port of Berdyansk on the Sea of Azov, the Russian state-run Interfax news agency quoted Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov as saying. The pressure on strategic cities in the south of Ukraine, including ports, appeared aimed at seizing control of Ukraine's coastline.

While the Russian offensive appeared to have been stymied by stiffer-than-expected resistance from highly motivated Ukrainian armed forces, thousands of Ukrainians have fled to the country's Western borders to escape the fighting.

The U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees said Sunday the number of Ukrainian refugees fleeing the country has reached 368,000 and continues to rise.

The Ukrainian government'shuman rights ombudsman, Lyudmyla Denysova, said Sunday that more than 210 Ukrainian civilians have been killed and that more than 1,100 have been wounded, while the health ministry reported larger numbers, saying nearly 1,700 people had been injured and more than 350 had been killed, including 14 children, according to a message on Telegram from Parliament. Moscow has not released casualty numbers for Russian forces.

Yuliya Talmazan

Yuliya Talmazan is a London-based journalist.

Teaganne Finn

Teaganne Finn is a political reporter for NBC News.

Reuters, The Associated Press, Courtney Kube, Mosheh Gains and Dennis Romero contributed.


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evilone
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1  evilone    2 years ago

The more he pushes the less more he erodes his own possession. Several Russian news websites have been hacked and are now displaying an anti-war message, over 6000 Russians have been arrested in anti-war protests, there are even rumors that at least some of the Russian oligarchs are pushing back on Putin. There is a run on cash at Russian banks and their stock exchange closed after another 30% crash in the Ruble. Ukraine is in talks with Russia on a cease fire. Also Ukraine has asked for an immediate vote into NATO.

In other news - The good: Germany has increased it's military spending and re-committed to it's goal of 2% of GDP. The bad: Belarus voted to enshrine holding nuclear weapons into their constitution. The ugly: This article news of a heightened nuclear deterrence forces to high alert.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
1.1  evilone  replied to  evilone @1    2 years ago

I just saw a report that the EU wants to add Ukraine. As Russia had been buying less US Dollars and more Euros in the last 2 years, I really think Putin didn't expect Europe to be this united against him.

Putin has done more to strengthen and grow NATO in 4 days than the US has in a decade.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @1    2 years ago
The ugly: This article news of a heightened nuclear deterrence forces to high alert.

This concerns me. Do you think the media is playing this up? I haven't heard anything about the West threatening to use nukes

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
1.2.1  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    2 years ago
Do you think the media is playing this up?

Just the report is bad enough. I don't doubt there is some spinning of this on both sides of this conflict. Most of the military talking heads I've seen interviewed are downplaying it. Some of the political talking heads are pushing it. 

I haven't heard anything about the West threatening to use nukes

I'm pretty sure they don't want to make this a tit-for-tat type of issue. That won't helps anyone one bit.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @1.2.1    2 years ago

Call me crazy and paranoid but I had dreams as a kid that I would see nuclear war in my lifetime

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
1.2.3  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.2    2 years ago
Call me crazy and paranoid but I had dreams as a kid that I would see nuclear war in my lifetime

Didn't every kid that lived through the '80s? 

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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1.2.4  Nowhere Man  replied to  evilone @1.2.3    2 years ago
Didn't every kid that lived through the '80s? 

'80's?

What about the '50's, '60's & '70's? 

I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, the government cars running thru neighborhoods with blaring loudspeakers about what we needed to do if we hear the sirens...

WE hear the same things today over the TV with their emergency warning tests...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @1.2.3    2 years ago

More like the 70's for me

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
1.2.6  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2    2 years ago
I haven't heard anything about the West threatening to use nukes

The threat is implied.  Over the weekend, I linked an article somewhere in all of the seeds about Ukraine that the US has studied and seems to believe that "limited" nuclear engagement would be a viable option.

I can't find that link, but below is an article that gives an overview of what we may currently possess to shock and awe our enemies into submission if whoever is in the White House feels it necessary.

Trump’s new nuclear weapon has been deployed (defensenews.com)

WASHINGTON — A new nuclear warhead   requested, designed and produced   under the Trump administration, has been deployed aboard a nuclear submarine, the Pentagon confirmed Tuesday.

The deployment of the W76-2, a   low-yield variant   of the nuclear warhead traditionally used on the Trident missile, was first reported Jan. 29 by the   Federation of American Scientists . The first to move out with the new weapon was the USS Tennessee (SSBN-734), deploying from Kings Bay Submarine Base in Georgia at the end of 2019, FAS reported.

Proponents of the system believe the U.S. needs another low-yield nuclear option in order to credibly counter Russia, which has invested heavily in a variety of nuclear systems in the last decade. Defense officials believe Moscow would potentially use a smaller nuclear weapon in order to deter America from entering or extending a conflict, under the “escalate to deescalate” doctrine; if the U.S. only has larger strategic weapons to retaliate with, it may hesitate, the thinking goes.

Opponents of the weapon question whether that doctrine is realistic, and also argue that no nuclear system can truly be non-strategic. Specific to the W76-2, members of the nonproliferation community have raised concerns that having a low-yield and high-yield warhead launched on the same submarine-launched missile creates a situation where an adversary doesn’t know which system is being used and therefore reacts as if the larger warhead has been launched.
 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.7  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @1.2.6    2 years ago

Low yield or high yield either one is a horrible idea

 
 
 
evilone
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1.2.8  evilone  replied to  Nowhere Man @1.2.4    2 years ago
What about the '50's, '60's & '70's? 

The '70s was Star Wars, Rocky and puberty... That TV movie The Day After came out in 1983. I will say that 1975 movie A Boy And His Dog was funny AF.

 
 
 
mocowgirl
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1.2.9  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.5    2 years ago
More like the 70's for me

I had a nightmare after "The Day After" aired on television.

My (ex) husband was based on the Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Base at the time.

I dreamt I was standing in our yard and watching our preschoolers play when missiles were suddenly taking flight in the near distance.

I managed to watch the movie a decade ago.  It was still impactful, but not as terrifying as when I when as was much younger. 

With age, I have seen enough brutality and been subjected to enough brutality to no longer have any illusions of what too many members of our species are capable of instigating.  The most worrying to me is both the fear driven herd mentality that will support the instigators and the fear driven mob mentality that will kill others without questioning.

Inside the US, we have due process for people charged in a crime.  Evidence is given.  Testimony is given.  Arguments are made.  Hell, a trial may last a month or more with media covering every aspect.

Why isn't that standard of due process involved with deciding to support war?  Is it because our government cannot make a good enough case on the objective and why our involvement is necessary?

There are dozens of wars/conflicts going on in the world in 2022.  How many have even received one headline in the US?  Why aren't the people being killed in one country as important as the people being killed in another?  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  mocowgirl @1.2.9    2 years ago

I had numerous nightmares between the ages of 11 and 16. We had watched some films in 6th grade pertaining to the SALT talks and there were plenty of videos of nuke testing.

Inside the US, we have due process for people charged in a crime.  Evidence is given.  Testimony is given.  Arguments are made.  Hell, a trial may last a month or more with media covering every aspect. Why isn't that standard of due process involved with deciding to support war?  Is it because our government cannot make a good enough case on the objective and why our involvement is necessary?

I think when we have that figured out we will either have become the Utopia of Star Trek or we have obliterated ourselves

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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1.2.11  Nowhere Man  replied to  mocowgirl @1.2.9    2 years ago
There are dozens of wars/conflicts going on in the world in 2022.  How many have even received one headline in the US?  Why aren't the people being killed in one country as important as the people being killed in another?  

They are not international conflicts, mostly internal stuff, which doesn't force other nations to fear anything.... But as demonstrated many times, when such a conflict spreads to a neighboring nation or region, it generally draws international interest, which usually means UN involvement...

But on the large international scene where major world powers are concerned, the UN is ineffective at best and a hindrance at worse... the last time the UN ws effective on the international scene was the Korean Police Action, when the Russians walked out of the Security Council and they voted for military action...

No one walks out of a Security Council session as a result....

Which means all the small flash wars and internal ethnic conflicts are not really counted in the totals for active wars...

they are internal problems not worth the international security communities time...

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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1.2.12  Nowhere Man  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.10    2 years ago
I think when we have that figured out we will either have become the Utopia of Star Trek or we have obliterated ourselves

That will take an evolutionary step up of the biological creature commonly known as Man

 
 
 
mocowgirl
Professor Quiet
1.2.13  mocowgirl  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.10    2 years ago
I had numerous nightmares between the ages of 11 and 16. We had watched some films in 6th grade pertaining to the SALT talks and there were plenty of videos of nuke testing.

Indoctrination to fear of Russia at a young age has been very effective in my lifetime and probably a factor in why the US hasn't established a better relationship with Russia after the Soviet Empire collapsed and no longer exists.

I don't recall if we had to hide under our desks so we would know what to do in event of Russian air raids as had been done in the 1950s.  Since I went to school in Arkansas and we were decades behind the coasts, it was probable.  Less than a decade ago, my school got busted for having public prayer on the loudspeakers for football games.  The citizens were disappointed because the school admins caved and said it would be useless to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend a lawsuit they could not win.  When the citizens of my hometown make the news, I usually cringe.

I was in first grade in 1963 when JFK was assassinated.  There were many rumors, but one of the main ones was that Russia was responsible.  And that rumor has been perpetuated over the years, even recently.  Even, if was true, that was almost 60 years ago.  The people responsible are not in power and most likely long dead.  

I believe the goal should be to bring negotiations between the world and Russia into the 21st century.  It may not be possible until Russia and we have world leaders who were actually born closer to the 21st century and don't have the prejudices associated with the Cold War.

Two recent articles about JFK with lots of speculation/innuendo, but no proof.  Isn't this what we get in the National Enquirer and other tabloid gossip?  Why should we be doing this to undermine international relations?

Did Russia Kill a U.S. President? New CIA Documents Reveal Spy's Theory About JFK's Death (newsweek.com)

and

Soviets ordered Lee Harvey Oswald to kill JFK: ex-CIA chief (nypost.com)
 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.14  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  mocowgirl @1.2.9    2 years ago

My memory is a little fuzzy on this one but I will tell it as I think I remember it.  There was a small town in KS that suffered a major power outage just as the bombs dropped in the movie.  Those watching majorly freaked out.

 
 

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