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Trump asks for Putin’s help — again

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  2 years ago  •  20 comments

Trump asks for Putin’s help — again
To Trump, though, this appears to be merely a chance for yet more leverage. The logic seems to be: The American people hate you, so why not do something that at least a fair number of them might appreciate? (Indeed, that seems to be implicit in Trump’s comment that Putin “now would be willing” to do such a thing — apparently because the war in Ukraine has gone poorly for Russia?)

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www.washingtonpost.com   /politics/2022/03/29/trump-putin-political-help/

Trump asks for Putin’s help — again


Aaron Blake 5-6 minutes   3/29/2022



When presidential candidate Donald Trump asked Russia to find his 2016 opponent’s emails — i.e., “ Russia, if you’re listening ” — Republicans hinted that   maybe this was a bad idea . So Trump claimed it was a joke. And Republicans moved on and stood by him.

When Trump in 2020 used the presidency to leverage Ukraine for an investigation into his next opponent, a number of Republicans admitted it was unseemly, but said it wasn’t impeachable. They moved on and stood by him. One of them even ventured that Trump had   learned a “pretty big lesson”   about asking a foreign country to investigate a political rival, and predicted he would “be much more cautious in the future.”

Trump wasn’t joking. He will not be more cautious in the future. And if anything, the big lesson he learned seems to have been that he has so effectively demolished this norm that it no longer encumbers him whatsoever.

He is so unencumbered, in fact, that he’s now seeking foreign political help from perhaps the man most reviled by Americans.

In a   new interview   on a website that just so happens to be run by   a key figure in the Ukraine scandal , Trump came out and said that Russian President Vladimir Putin should provide more purported dirt on Hunter Biden.

Trump suggested that the Russian leader had a window into some of Hunter Biden’s work in the region, recycling   an unproven claim   about money flowing from the then-wife of Moscow’s former mayor to the president’s son. Trump added: “I would think Putin would know the answer to that. I think he should release it. I think we should know that answer.”

Trump also made clear this wasn’t just an off-the-cuff comment, saying again, “I think Putin now would be willing to probably give that answer. I’m sure he knows.”

Just to put this in perspective, it was pretty objectionable when Trump asked Russia for help in 2016, but Putin wasn’t nearly the pariah he is now. A poll this week showed that just 1 percent of Americans have a positive view of Putin, compared with   88 percent who have a negative one   (including 80 percent very negative). That’s entering territory generally reserved for   your Osama bin Ladens, your Saddam Husseins and your Ayatollah Khomeinis .

To Trump, though, this appears to be merely a chance for yet more leverage. The logic seems to be: The American people hate you, so why not do something that at least a fair number of them might appreciate? (Indeed, that seems to be implicit in Trump’s comment that Putin “now would be willing” to do such a thing — apparently because the war in Ukraine has gone poorly for Russia?)

And indeed, that might not be a terrible bet. When is the last time a really substantial number of Republicans said they liked Putin? Right after Trump won in 2016, and we learned that Russia had interfered to assist in that victory. Favorable GOP views of Putin   shot up from 16 percent the previous summer to 37 percent   in one poll.

Trump’s suggestion is, of course, significantly more fraught than it was in 2016. While he led something of a Republican reevaluation of the party’s posture toward Putin and Russia, it never fully stuck with the base. Republicans reverted to their previous anti-Russia posture as Trump’s presidency wore on. His supporters might have believed the Russia investigation was a “hoax,” but it wasn’t because they believed Russia was actually good or a legitimate actor on the world stage.

Putin’s newfound status in the United States would also seem to call into question any such dirt he might pony up. It’s become blatantly obvious that his invasion of Ukraine has been premised on disinformation — including the idea that this was about “denazification” and that Ukraine was somehow the aggressor.

There   are   a fair number of influential conservative pundits and GOP lawmakers suggesting that the Putin-versus-Ukraine dynamic isn’t as simple as evil-versus-victim. And some Republicans have bought into baseless   conspiracy theories about   bio labs in Ukraine . But when it comes to Russia’s actual case for war, almost no Americans — only   2 percent overall, according to a poll last week   — believe Ukraine is governed by Nazis or that Ukraine started the war.

Yet this is the foreign government Trump has reached out to for important information — yet again.

Trump, though, is still playing the hits. And the hits apparently include seeing just how long his party and supporters will tolerate his treating a man they hate as a legitimate political ally. Because, as always, the point is winning.



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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

We still have fools who dont believe Trump asked for Russian help in 2016. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago
We still have fools who dont believe Trump asked for Russian help in 2016.

He just can't help himself.  Can he?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 years ago

During a period in time when the Russian dictator is literally butchering thousands of people in Ukraine, Trump appeals to that dictator to help him (Trump) politically. 

Trump is again showing why he is traitor, not just to the United States, but to decent people everywhere. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 years ago

During a period in time when the Russian dictator is literally butchering thousands of people in Ukraine, Trump appeals to that dictator to help him (Trump) politically. 

Trump is again showing why he is traitor, not just to the United States, but to decent people everywhere. 

Multiple people from his administration have come out and said that Trump idolizes dictators.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    2 years ago

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Trout Giggles
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2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 years ago

Is it wrong that I laughed at that?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    2 years ago

No I did too. It's damned cute LOL

 
 
 
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2.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    2 years ago

It would be wrong if you didn't.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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2.1.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.1    2 years ago

It would be even cuter if there were a little juicy open space between Putin’s neck and torso.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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2.1.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2.1.3    2 years ago

You're one sick ticket. I like that

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @2    2 years ago

He should use that picture as his screen saver.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    2 years ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 years ago

256

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    2 years ago

"Russia had interfered to assist in that victory."

Still not true. Baseless claim not supported by a shred of evidence. The voters hated Hillary more than they did Trump

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @4    2 years ago

You are consistently wrong, I will give you that. Not wishy washy at all. 

Just as Trump's attempted extortion of Ukraine in 2019 was evidence that he had encouraged Russian meddling in 2016, his present day seeking of Putin's help with a political matter is evidence that what he said in 2016 was an attempt to get Russia to help him against Hillary Clinton.  Ever heard of a pattern of behavior Greg? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago

You should have Jim's stupid ass meme removed for being off topic.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    2 years ago

Is that why you deleted this?

"That should be trumpturd and his golden showers - I bet trumpturd always smells like piss and shit."
 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.2    2 years ago

I decided not to encourage your ignorance any longer but you just have to keep proving it.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.3    2 years ago

Stellar comeback.........../s

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5  Tessylo    2 years ago

I just see one member of my fan club today.  Where's Tex been?

 
 

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