Inside Politics / The Permit Deal
The link to the quote: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/71-house-democrats-warn-pelosi-against-tying-manchins-permitting-deal-government-funding-bill
Most Americans know nothing of the deal making that goes on in Washington DC and only have a vague idea of what is in a Bill after its passage. Recently the democrats were able to rescue a part of Joe Biden's so-called "Build Back Better Bill," just in time for the midterm elections. The Bill was named the "Inflation Reduction Act." It has almost nothing to do with inflation. As we all know, democrats like to label things for political needs. The Bill includes many things that various factions of the democratic party are interested in, such as "green energy." One key provision aims to slash greenhouse gas emissions by roughly 40% of 2005 levels before the year 2030. The price that Schumer and the party's more radical wing had to pay was a provision which mandates the sale of oil and gas leases on federal lands and waters (the key compromise made to appease Sen. Joe Manchin.) In addition was something that could not go into the Bill because of "reconciliation." Chuck Schumer promised Manchin to pass legislation streamlining the permit approval process to drill for oil and gas by the end of September. Schumer recently confirmed that he plans to pair the Permit Deal with a continuing resolution that members of Congress must pass this month to prevent a government shutdown.
It seems that extra part of the deal may very well be in trouble. Joe Manchin was initially worried about getting 11 or so Senate Republicans to sign on, but it appears that the more leftward leaning elements of the democratic party, having got what they wanted from Manchin, are now bolting from their end of the bargain:
"Seventy-one House Democrats penned a letter to Pelosi, D-Calif., warning that the bill's inclusion will force them to seriously consider voting against the short-term government funding measure, known as a continuing resolution."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/71-house-democrats-warn-pelosi-against-tying-manchins-permitting-deal-government-funding-bill
In the meantime green energy activists are mobilizing in DC. The pressure is on House democrats.
https://twitter.com/search?q=picture%20of%20Manchin&src=typed_query
Manchin didn't know what he was dealing with?
Many of these people serve green energy fanatics who want to shut down American energy. Did Manchin think they could be controlled by Schumer or Pelosi.
Manchin gave his vote to the IRA Bill for a kiss & a promise.
The people will pay the price.
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We warned you Joe!
I'm sure that Joe has no political allies left. Republicans will likely target him too.
Leadership? Have not seen any of that from the Dems in the last two years. Raul Grijalva of AZ is a total dirtbag that most Arizonans cannot stand or trust unless they are hard core leftist liberals. I put Joe Manchin in the same category as Mark Kelley. Makes pretty speeches while sitting in the fence then voting in lockstep with his party.
All Republicans have to do is turn 1 or 2 seats in the Senate to stop the insanity.
I think Georgia may be the key state.
WATCH LIVE: Biden hosts event celebrating passage of Inflation Reduction Act
https:// trib.al/SVp6BfP
My God, they are really disconnected from reality!
Celebrations as the Dow plummetts.
Some people are really clueless.
I have no idea how he got 80 Million votes, but I doubt he'll ever get anything like that ever again.
We know how he got them. The question really is if that will be investigated.
The Inflation Reduction Act is an infrastructure bill. Remember when DJT promised to work on infrastructure? I do. He didn't. Honestly, I don't see a problem here.
Ya, we need infrastructure. How about combining the Permit Deal with a continuing resolution to keep the government funded?
I thought you guys wanted more oil and gas leases. Schumer promised it to Manchin. That's the best (probably the only) way to get it done.
With an empty promise? The House democrats are already against it
No one sane should ever trust Schumer.
Of course the dems are against it. I'm against it too but, Schumer is keeping his promise to Manchin by linking it to must pass legislation. This gives it the best chance of passing. You should be happy but it's awful hard to be happy when you're a perpetual victim.
So what you are saying is that the "Inflation Reduction Act" is to cover for the failed Infrastructure Bill that was passed.
Wait... The failed infrastructure bill passed?
The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, AKO Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill was signed by President Biden last November.
Once again Sir, you are the bearer of bad tidings
So... It's the most successful "failed infrastructure bill" in history then.
I didn't label it as failed, that said it provides $550B over 10 years or $55B per year. I wonder how much was spent this year?
Jeremy labeled it as failed.
Ok, what has been accomplished to date?
You just said you never labeled it failed. Are you doing it now?
No, but since you labelled it as "the most successful "failed infrastructure bill" in history", I was interested in what you thought some of the recent successes are.
'Member when this young fella named George W. Bush extolled Congress to allow the U.S. to "fix" the Afghanistani "problem". He said he guaranteed it would not cost over $1 B - period.
The War In Afghanistan Cost America $300 Million Per Day For 20 Years, With Big Bills Yet To Come
In the 20 years since September 11, 2001, the United States has spent more than $2 trillion on the war in Afghanistan. That’s $300 million dollars per day, every day, for two decades. Or $50,000 for each of Afghanistan's 40 million people. In baser terms, Uncle Sam has spent more keeping the Taliban at bay than the net worths of Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates and the 30 richest billionaires in America, combined.
Looks like our "'Lil" prez Joe is paying his Euro crime partners well for all the monetary "gifts" they gave he and his crackhead son.
And the price just keeps getting higher and higher.
To date, the U.S. has provided about $10.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine since the beginning of the Biden administration, including 19 packages of weapons taken directly from Defense Department stocks since August 2021.
But, we can't fix the problems in the U.S. 'cause we ain't got no money.
Wonder why the Euros are more important than U.S. citizens, and where is all this money suddenly coming from???
I remember that the initial mission was to kill/capture as many Al Qaeda as possible and to punish the Taliban for harboring them. We went into Afghanistan relatively light and accomplished that mission at the end of 2002 and had lost 37 Service members. I think we should have left then and told the war lords, if the terrorists come back, so will we. We had spent about $20B by then.
The Administration made a tragic blunder when it shifted the mission to nation building and sustained stability operations. I also remember Obama campaigning in 2008 to surge in Afghanistan to win 'the good war", "the war we must win". He did surge and his eight years we lost 1,724 there compared to the 564 lost during the Bush years. we spent around $650B during the Obama years and about $160B there in the Bushn years.
Permitting for oil and gas production IS infrastructure. Can't build highways without oil and gas. Can't build bridges without coal, oil, and gas. Can't produce tires without coal, oil, and gas. EVs are going to be dependent upon oil. Coal, oil and gas are the feedstocks for plastics and synthetic rubber.
We can't get to an all electric future without coal, oil, and gas. Without carbon all other infrastructure is impossible.
Agreed. Do you think we need to sell new oil and gas leases to get there?
Obviously, yes. Without carbon from fossil fuels, everything else collapses.
NIMBY environmentalism is not going to address climate change. That will only make the United States dependent upon foreign suppliers who aren't as concerned about environmental issues. If fossil fuel production wrecks the environment then NIMBY environmentalism only demands that we wreck someone else's environment. That may be a liberal attitude but it certainly is not progressive.
That's where we disagree Nerm. With the oil and gas industry sitting on thousands of leases now they have plenty of places to drill now. While I agree that we will likely always need oil for an abundance of reasons the demand for oil as a motor fuel is going to go away. In 13 short years you will no longer be able to buy a gas powered car in CA. Other states will follow. They always do.
Wanna bet? CA didn't prohibit sale of used ICE vehicles; only new ICE vehicles. And I'm not sure the CA mandate applies to hybrid electric vehicles. The only thing the CA mandate will do is drive up the cost of used vehicles. Guess who that is gonna hurt the most.
Seventy-one House Democrats penned a letter to Pelosi, D-Calif., warning that the bill's inclusion will force them to seriously consider voting against the short-term government funding measure, known as a continuing resolution
Of course the democrats lied and will go back on their promises. Has Manchin not paid attention the last 40 years?
I can't believe Manchin was naïve enough to believe Schumer would ever live up to his word once he got what he wanted. I'm assuming he settled for the talking point as an explanation for his caving on his supposed principles, knowing the promises were worthless.
A Democrat who keeps his promises. Lol.
Why is Nancy having such a hard time herding her cats?
Alcohol.
Gosh, I hope she gets a designated driver.
Perhaps her husband?
Gee, what will all the Green Agenda folks think of Biden traveling to Delaware by plane and using a motorcade to go vote when he was JUST there last week or could have used a mail-in ballot?
Maybe Joe isn't as keen on conserving energy and reducing emissions as he would like his minions to believe.
He flew to PA and back three different times within 7 days at the end of Aug.
Yeah, I see he is following Al Gore's lead on talking a big game but not doing it personally, after all, conservation is for the peons, not political royalty!
ill pose to you, the same question.
How much change and influence does Hillary Clinton have
Huh?
If Hillary had hustled for votes by crisscrossing the country engaging with the "Voters", she would have made quite a Green difference, as opposed to Trumps' direction of away from renewables. Point being, it is essential to get the correct people elected, and Hillary was far from even an alright candidate. The FCKN train Wreck Trump was just off the charts ridiculous to expect to be Presidential. He proved that and THEN SOME.
Few hundred thousand dollars or whatever in Jet Fuel , would have saved probably Tens of Billions, and a hell of a lot of face, for US
Hard to imagine typing that comment not actually trying to be as lameass and cringey as possible...
I am sorry you lack the imagination necessary.
Maybe next time...........??
Care to dispute anything I actually wrote, or are you just trolling?
Do you think it wise for the President to take a plane to Delaware just to vote when he could have done it last week or by mail?
And I have my answer.
It's an enlightening story on a few levels. First, of course, is a man who claims to believe global warming is an existential threat to humanity using a private jet with it's massive carbon footprint for his convenience. What sort of a monster would do that, if he actually believed what he claims to believe?
We also have someone willing to waste more than $100,000 of taxpayers money for his convenience. Think about the entitlement that takes. To just say fuck it, I know we are running a massive deficit, but I want to vote so I'll burn taxpayers money. Does he not feel any guilt, any shame in that sort of excess? He's like a French Aristocrat at Sun King's court, believing all the peasants toil their lives away so he can never be inconvenienced.
It is hard to even imagine the hubris necessary to do something like this after preaching to America about the dangers of climate change due to man's actions.
If Biden doesn't let "climate change" impact his behavior, no one else should feel any pressure to either.
Correct.
Some folks go all Chicken Little but their actions don't jibe with their rhetoric.
Yes, it is still hard for you to imagine that Joe Biden is the President of the United States of America who must travel everywhere with an entourage of security and the full apparatus of government, but he is. He is President!
Unlike you, Joe cannot just load up his 1994 Toyota Tercel and headout on the highway...
No, I know Joe must take his sycophants with him everywhere.
As usual, you have missed the relevant points.
Joe COULD have simply voted while he was there LAST WEEK or he COULD have voted by mail.
Instead, he fires up a plane and motorcade so he could do it in person no matter the cost. So much for the 'green agenda' bullshit.
No doubt, but make three separate campaign stops to PA and back was a choice as they could have been combined into one 2-3 day trip.
As of the middle of last month, Biden had spent 49 trips and 150 days at one of his homes in Delaware. At that point in his presidency, Trump had made 17 visits to Mar-a-Lago and 13 to Bedminster in New Jersey, for 132 days.
Yes, we know. "Blah blah blah inane shit inane shit blah blah blah inane shit inane shit". You have not scored a gotcha on President Biden.
Most days Trump didn't get dressed till one PM!
I don't think that would increase carbon in the atmosphere.
BTW, I'm working and still in my PJ's.
You sure manage to type a bunch of shit while avoiding answering!!
You get paid for "what you do" on Newstalkers?
You mean that you don't? Oops!
Most people will only pay help when they actually DO something.
Apparently liberal Democrats have a drug problem. Popping more pills ain't gonna solve anything.