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Elon Musk drops new details on Twitter's suppression of Hunter Biden laptop

  

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Via:  gregtx  •  2 years ago  •  230 comments

Elon Musk drops new details on Twitter's suppression of Hunter Biden laptop
Twitter chief Elon Musk made good on his pledge to drop new information about the company's behind-the-scenes machinations about the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in October 2020.

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Twitterchief Elon Musk made good on his pledge to drop new information about the company's behind-the-scenes machinations about the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story in October 2020.

Musk retweeted a thread from journalist Matt Taibbi, who slowly rolled out information from the so-called Twitter files. The thread revealed that Twitter mulled requests from political groups to suppress material.

The outspoken CEO had teased Friday that he would divulge the new information at 5 p.m. Eastern time but subsequently announced there would be a significant delay because the company was "double-checking some facts."


1. Thread: THE TWITTER FILES
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 2, 2022

Taibbi shared screenshots of internal conversations in which Twitter employees noted tweets that had been flagged by the Biden team or the Democratic National Committee. He explained that both parties highlighted content to Twitter but emphasized that the company wasn't even-handed because it was staffed with people who leaned Democratic.


11. This system wasn't balanced. It was based on contacts. Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation, there were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left (well, Democrats) than the right. https://t.co/sa1uVRNhuHpic.twitter.com/K1xmqQ0TrD
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 3, 2022

At one point, a schism appeared to emerge between the communication and policy teams after then-White House press secretary Kaleigh McEnany was locked from her Twitter account. McEnany had tweeted material about the laptop story. Someone at the company noted her tweet was "bounced" for breaching the hacked materials policy.


19. White House spokeswoman Kaleigh McEnany was locked out of her account for tweeting about the story, prompting a furious letter from Trump campaign staffer Mike Hahn, who seethed: "At least pretend to care for the next 20 days." pic.twitter.com/CcXTfsdzCT
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 3, 2022

Taibbi emphasized that while "several sources recalled hearing about a 'general' warning from federal law enforcement," he found no evidence that the government was involved in the laptop story.

He further claimed that the decision was made at "the highest levels of the company, but without the knowledge of CEO Jack Dorsey." Vijaya Gadde, the former head of legal, policy, and trust who departed the company after Musk's takeover, was involved, according to Taibbi.

"They just freelanced it," one former employee told him. "Hacking was the excuse, but within a few hours, pretty much everyone realized that wasn't going to hold. But no one had the guts to reverse it."

During the internal machinations, Dorsey sent Gadde a copy of a Substack article Taibbi wrote ripping the suppression of the laptop story, according to internal emails.

Internally, many employees began to fret over the handling of the matter, with some asking if they could "truthfully claim that this is part of the policy" or raising questions about "the policy basis for marking this as unsafe." Others pointed to the 2016 election and were keen on avoiding a repeat, concerned about potential foreign interference.

Amid the internal fervor, Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) had an exchange with Gadde in which he raised concerns about the First Amendment, a "mention of which is generally hard to find in the files," according to Taibbi , who suggested Democratic concerns over the suppression wasn't common.

Carl Szabo, from the research firm NetChoice, sent Lauren Culbertson, the head of public policy, a letter explaining he polled 12 members of Congress about the matter and found a consensus among Democrats.

"The Democrats were in agreement: social media needs to moderate more because they're corrupting democracy and making all 'truth' relative. When pushed on how the government might insist on that, consistent with the First Amendment, they demurred: 'the First Amendment isn't absolute,'" he wrote.


26. By this point "everyone knew this was fucked," said one former employee, but the response was essentially to err on the side of… continuing to err. pic.twitter.com/2wJMFAUBoe
— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) December 3, 2022

Musk has long ripped the blocking of the laptop story as "obviously incredibly inappropriate" and pledged to expand transparency and steer Twitter in a more pro-free speech direction since his $44 billion takeover of the company, which took effect in October.

During the tumultuous 2020 election homestretch, Twitter blocked sharing of an October 2020 New York Post story about Hunter Biden's laptop and also temporarily froze the news outlet's Twitter account before later backpedaling.

The story explored the his overseas business dealings and raised questions about the involvement of his father, President Joe Biden. Twitter co-founder and former CEO Jack Dorsey later conceded the company made a "total mistake" by squelching the story.


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GregTx
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1  seeder  GregTx    2 years ago

512

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
1.1  Split Personality  replied to  GregTx @1    2 years ago

I would not use Twitter for anything, but especially not a news source.  Who does that?

Meantime, we poor NT members were privy to many, many articles and links to various,

mostly right leaning publications like Parlor and Gab about the laptop and Hunter's personal

issues.

We already knew Hunter had drug problems and deliberately failed out of the Navy after what appeared to be special treatment to get him into the Navy.

Twitter only reaches 6.2% of the world population.

Only 18% of Americans use twttr daily.

None of the negative stories about Trump, the Trump organization or the Trump family or their

values stropped Trump from being elected. Trump was elected because he wasn't Clinton.

It's highly doubtful that more revelations about Hunter would have changed the minds of enough

voters to change the results of the 2020 election.  Biden was elected because he wasn't Trump.

None of the laundry mattered.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Split Personality @1.1    2 years ago

Twitter is a non entity and Musk and his moron supporters and enablers continue to make it so

I have an account but haven't tried to access it for probably about a decade

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    2 years ago
Twitter is a non entity and Musk and his moron supporters and enablers continue to make it so

Wow.

Liberals everywhere will be surprised that Twitter is a non entity after posting on it for years!

Gee, how WILL the Hollywood liberals communicate to their fans now?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.2    2 years ago

FUCK OFF

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.1.4  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    2 years ago
I have an account but haven't tried to access it for probably about a decade

Twitter is soo lucky. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
1.1.5  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.1    2 years ago

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devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  GregTx @1    2 years ago

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago

Threat to democracy?

Don't go all Chicken Little here!

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
2  dennissmith    2 years ago

The deflection and/spin and attacks on Musk from the left will be very entertaining 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

The first thing we learn from this is that Jack Dorsey wasn't a key player. These were decisions made by some of the Twitter underlings. The question is who spoke for the DNC?  Who spoke for the Biden campaign?

We also learned that James Baker the former FBI lawyer embroiled in the Russia hoax then went to work for Twitter.

Musk is not done.

He is set drop another trove of e-mails today.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @3    2 years ago

Never underestimate the political influence of the upper echelons of the FBI and CIA in this.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

The "Twitter Files" showed on at least one occasion, the "Biden team" instructed Twitter employees to remove politically inconvenient content in October 2020, just weeks before  Joe Biden  was elected President of the United States.

"More to review from the Biden team," an email from a redacted Twitter employee said. The message included five tweet URLs. "Thanks all," the message was casually signed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

"Taibbi added: "Twitter took extraordinary steps to suppress the story, removing links and posting warnings that it may be ‘unsafe.’ They even blocked its transmission via direct message, a tool hitherto reserved for extreme cases, e.g. child pornography."

On another occasion, then- White House   Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany was locked out of her account for sharing content about the Hunter Biden controversy.

"This led public policy executive Caroline Strom to send out a polite WTF query. Several employees noted that there was tension between the comms/policy teams, who had little/less control over moderation, and the safety/trust teams," Taibbi wrote."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6  JohnRussell    2 years ago

People dont care about Hunter Biden's laptop, and probably care even less about what Twitter did about it.  Elon Musk has pissed away any overall good will connected to his takeover of twitter. He has let known nazis, racists, q anon freaks and general weirdos back on twitter, and Musk has acted personally erratically while doing so. This Hunter Biden business is at best a sideshow that will reinforce the idea that Musk is unstable. 

The right is doubling down on "Hunter Biden" , which is good because the story will destroy them. The public doesnt care, and the worst thing politicians can do is obsess about things no one cares about. 

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Six in 10 voters cited protecting democracy as an extremely important reason that they decided to vote in November. This put the issue ahead of inflation (53%), abortion (47%) and crime (45%). When asked to choose the top two issues that motivated them to vote, 50% chose protecting democracy, second only to inflation at 55%.

These findings are largely in line with preelection surveys from   The New York Times ,   The Wall Street Journal ,   CBS News ,   NBC News ,   Quinnipiac University Poll   and the   Grinnell College National Poll , as well as exit polling from   The Associated Press ,   NBC News   and   CNN .

The issue of democracy “was really one of the most dominant factors” for Democrats and independents in determining whether they would turn out and “decisive in decision-making in terms of whether independent voters were going to vote for the Democratic candidate or the Republican candidate,” Murphy said.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago

These people the democrats use to vote for them don't know what day it is.

Concerned citizens may not have given fucking Joe Biden their vote had they have known about Hunter peddling influence to foreign countries.

And BTW:

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JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    2 years ago

Why did all these Republicans not show up to vote? Because they are embarrassed to death that their party clings to Trump , MTG, Kevin McCarthy, Herschel Walker, and all the other morons and weirdos under the Republican banner.  Keep going - you will re-elect Biden. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    2 years ago
Why did all these Republicans not show up to vote?

They voted John. The DNC kept getting ballots to people who they figured to vote party affiliation. Pay attention to what Brian Kemp did. He mastered the democrats game. Fucking Joe Biden won't even win the DNC nomination.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.1.3  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1.1    2 years ago

And the far-right wing fascists just get crazier on a daily basis.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @6.1.3    2 years ago
And the far-right wing fascists

Do you see many far right fascists where you live?

or is this just repeated hyperbole you have been sold by a media doing Democrats' bidding?

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
6.2  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago
People dont care about Hunter Biden's laptop

Like people don't care about Trump's taxes, Russian Collusion, some asinine phone call to Ukraine that the main witness wasn't even present for, or the Jan 6th committee.

and probably care even less about what Twitter did about it. 

Democrats for sure don't care. They never have and never will give a shit about the First Amendment or the Constitution.

Elon Musk has pissed away any overall good will connected to his takeover of twitter.

Only leftist TDS driven loons think so. They no longer have their safe space circle jerk of information, (not facts- there is nothing factual about what they are posting).

He has let known nazis, racists, q anon freaks and general weirdos back on twitter, and Musk has acted personally erratically while doing so.

He banned Ye again; so Twitter still has policies and standards. But now they TDS driven leftists must deal with their opposites on the right! Whatever are they going to do! Their unfactual information is being challenged! They might actually have to read something they don't agree with; or worse still challenges what they think!

This Hunter Biden business is at best a sideshow that will reinforce the idea that Musk is unstable. 

Again, only to Democrats. In the real world there is an investigation that has evidence and witnesses leading all the way to "the Big Guy". Not talking about what Hunter calls what is in his pants either. The only thing stopping charges from being filed is the most corrupt, partisan, POS DOJ in the history of the US. The investigation is being slow walked so badly it is sickening. It began in 2018- it receive no media attention in 2020. It is now 2022 and it disappeared again for midterms. Maybe the DOJ will grow a pair before 2024; or they will make it disappear again for the those elections.

The right is doubling down on "Hunter Biden" , which is good because the story will destroy them. The public doesnt care, and the worst thing politicians can do is obsess about things no one cares about. 

The public will care. Just wait until the investigation in the House begins and the evidence is presented. This isn't just about Hunter Biden. It is about Brandon the human fuck up machine being guilty of doing everything TDS driven morons accused Trump of doing; but they could never find evidence of it. Abusing the power of his position to enrich his family and himself. Selling access to not just the VP; but also the presidency. 

Brandon even bragged about it- which proves he is even dumber than the Clinton's.

Thank you Democrats for doing away with rules on who can be assigned to investigative committees. Maybe McCarthy will allow two hand picked Democrats onto the investigative committee; if they are anti Brandon enough. They can even televise it on prime time selecting only witnesses and evidence that furthers their investigation. Popcorn sales will explode for the majority of viewers! Along with Vaseline sales for butt hurt Democrats, their media sycophants, and lemming followers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @6.2    2 years ago

Your hallucinations concerning what the public thinks are quite amusing. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
6.2.2  Gazoo  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    2 years ago

what the public thinks are quite amusing”

Exactly, for example just the other day a moronic article appeared claiming elon musk was turning twitter into a nazi haven, then a couple of days later musk banned a person from twitter for putting up a swastika. Lol.

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
6.2.3  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    2 years ago
Your hallucinations concerning what the public thinks are quite amusing. 

That coming from you is one of the most amusing things I have ever read. Your hallucinations and delusions about everything Trump are hilarious!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.2.4  cjcold  replied to  Ronin2 @6.2    2 years ago

This centrist thinks that far-right wing fascism is what is wrong in the world.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    2 years ago

I pay his nonsensical projections and ravings no mind.  A complete waste of time like certain other posters

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    2 years ago
Your hallucinations

The last bastions of a liberal losing an argument - personal attacks.  You seem to get to this point pretty quickly.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.2.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.2.6    2 years ago

The media is not covering this story because they are the story.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.2.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @6.2    2 years ago
Like people don't care about Trump's taxes, Russian Collusion, some asinine phone call to Ukraine that the main witness wasn't even present for, or the Jan 6th committee.

Let's see: 

Trump = former POTUS and current POTUS candidate.

Hunter = private citizen.

I bet you do not understand the difference....

They never have and never will give a shit about the First Amendment or the Constitution.

Democrats are not penalizing various companies in Florida for speaking their minds.

Democrats have also never, outright, called for the Constitution to be suspended.

They no longer have their safe space circle jerk of information

Well thank god for Truth Social , who has never ever blocked any kind of opinion....... Right?

He banned Ye again; so Twitter still has policies and standards.

They are not " policies and standards" unless they are equally applied.

In the real world there is an investigation that has evidence and witnesses leading all the way to "the Big Guy".

In the "real world" Durham was also investigating, I hear he is now available to lead the laptop investigation.  After all, you can't argue with his results.

The public will care.

By "public", I can only assume you mean right wingers.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.2.9  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @6.2.4    2 years ago
This centrist thinks that far-right wing fascism is what is wrong in the world.

Is anyone not on the Democratic Party bandwagon a far right fascist to you?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
6.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago

"The right is doubling down on "Hunter Biden" , which is good because the story will destroy them. The public doesnt care, and the worst thing politicians can do is obsess about things no one cares about."

You mean the Dems obsessing over things no one cares about like Trump-Putin collusion, J6, Mir-A-Lago, "democracy", climate change, etc. Hunter's laptop will reveal all kinds Biden scandals, so stay tuned..

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
6.3.1  cjcold  replied to  Greg Jones @6.3    2 years ago

Actually climate change j6, Trump/Putin collusion and democracy mean everything.

Hunter's laptop means nothing and never did.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @6.3.1    2 years ago
Hunter's laptop means nothing and never did.

Uh, huh, sure.

Must be why the Biden campaign tried to downplay it and ignore it.

Must be why some FBI Biden-sycophants tried to get ahead of the story.

Must be why some 50+ former 'intelligence' folks tried to downplay it and get in front of it, ensuring social media would attempt to bury the story.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.5  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago

Chalk it up to they got nothing as usual and are obsessing over Hunter Biden 

Another nothingberder

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @6.5    2 years ago
Chalk it up to they got nothing as usual and are obsessing over Hunter Biden 

As opposed to liberals' obsession with Trump for the last 6 years!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @6    2 years ago
People dont care about Hunter Biden's laptop, and probably care even less about what Twitter did about it.

I'd venture a guess that there is more concern about this computer than Trump and J6 combined.  

Elon Musk has pissed away any overall good will connected to his takeover of twitter.

That is if you are a leftist and supported the censorship from the previous CEO of Twitter.  

He has let known nazis, racists, q anon freaks and general weirdos back on twitter, and Musk has acted personally erratically while doing so. 

So you are on Twitter.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.6.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6    2 years ago
I'd venture a guess that there is more concern about this computer than Trump and J6 combined.  

Give me some of what you're drinking, I want to enter an altered state of consciousness too. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
6.6.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6    2 years ago
So you are on Twitter.

I look at Twitter to find interesting information, mostly from news sites and some pundits. 

It is a great source in that way. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.6.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @6.6.2    2 years ago
I look at Twitter to find interesting information

Said nobody with a functioning brain.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.6.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6    2 years ago
I'd venture a guess that there is more concern about this computer than Trump and J6 combined.

It strikes me that everything right wingers say about Hunter's laptop, could be substituted with "Hillary's emails".  It's like a "Q" version of Mad Libs .

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.6.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @6.6.4    2 years ago

Ah, the "whataboutism".  Come back when you have something of substance to contribute.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.6.6  Ozzwald  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6.5    2 years ago
Ah, the "whataboutism".

You seem confused about the definition of "whataboutism".  I am demonstrating the hypocrisy of right wingers, not "whataboutism".

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @6.6.4    2 years ago
say about Hunter's laptop, could be substituted with "Hillary's emails". 

Not at all, Hillary's email didn't include descriptions of crack usage, personal sex act, porn searches, references of shorthand that "10 held by H for the big guy?" is shorthand for 10% of the Chinese deal held by Hunter for his father.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.8  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.7    2 years ago

Tell us again if it is okay for service members to accuse the President of the United States, their Commander in Chief, of personally profiting from foreign business deals and of not reporting the income, keeping in mind that President Biden has made his taxes public and tax evasion is a major crime!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.6.8    2 years ago
"10 held by H for the big guy

Who do YOU think this is referring to?

"10 held by H for the big guy"
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.10  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.8    2 years ago

Tell us again if it is okay for service members to accuse the President of the United States, their Commander in Chief,

I don't believe so, now tell me which service members have accused the CiC.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.11  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.10    2 years ago

You told us you are still active duty here several times. I really never believed it, because you are way way past mandatory retirement age and obviously not working, on here 24/7...

In any case you seem to be advancing on some serious shit.

I knew an active duty guy who slandered the President once.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.12  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.6.9    2 years ago

If the President of the United States illicitly and personally profited from any secret business deals with any foreign businesses or governments and lied about it on his taxes that would ruin him. Butt, falsely accusing him is AOK by you?

Money is pretty easy to follow yet you have absolutely ZERO!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.6.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.7    2 years ago
Not at all, Hillary's email didn't include

Doesn't matter what they included or not.  Right wing claims could be used the same way, whether about the email or the laptop.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.14  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.11    2 years ago
You told us you are still active duty here several times. I really never believed it, because you are way way past mandatory retirement age and obviously not working, on here 24/7...

Either your reading is careless or you comprehension is declining.  I have never claimed here to be on active duty.  I retired from  active duty status in 1998.  I am a federal worker now, an HQDA civilian.

In any case you seem to be advancing on some serious shit.

I haven't advanced anything not published by nymag.com or CBS.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.15  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.6.12    2 years ago
If the President of the United States illicitly and personally profited from any secret business deals with any foreign businesses or governments and lied about it on his taxes that would ruin him.

Sure would, which is probably why the Biden campaign and his sycophants in the Justice Department attempted to squelch the story before it even came out!

Butt, falsely accusing him is AOK by you?

That is extremely rich in irony after the last 6 years of Trump, Trump, Trump!

LMMFAO!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.16  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @6.6.13    2 years ago
Doesn't matter what they included or not.

You're the one that argued equivalency.  

Right wing claims could be used the same why, whether about the email or the laptop.

I don't know what you mean.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.12    2 years ago
Money is pretty easy to follow yet you have absolutely ZERO!

Based on that, you must think the Trump is innocent of any tax violations.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.18  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.17    2 years ago

No, the Trump Organization is on trial in NY at this moment!

Congress finally got Trump's taxes when? Mere days ago...

Biden's tax returns the last twenty years are public domain.

See the difference?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.19  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.18    2 years ago
See the difference?

I see that your earlier assertion, "Money is pretty easy to follow yet you have absolutely ZERO!" is bullshit.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.20  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.14    2 years ago

Is it okay you are accusing the President of filing false taxes?

Because, that is what you and Texan are accusing Biden of...

My Dad was a federal agent. He was held to high standards!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.21  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.6.18    2 years ago
Congress finally got Trump's taxes when?

Do you personally believe that members of Congress are more qualified to go through tax returns and find wrongdoing better than trained IRS agents who do so for a living?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.22  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.19    2 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.23  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @6.6.21    2 years ago

I do know that if what Trump told the government in his taxes proves he lied to bankers and regulators he committed crimes!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6.6.24  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.19    2 years ago

Then you are accusing President Biden of filing false taxes!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.20    2 years ago
Is it okay you are accusing the President of filing false taxes?

I haven't made that accusation, what confused you?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.26  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @6.6.20    2 years ago
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Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.27  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @6.6.23    2 years ago

So, instead of guessing, why not PROVE it for ONCE?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
6.6.28  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @6.6.16    2 years ago
You're the one that argued equivalency. 

Equivalency with right wing claims.  I'm sorry you seem to be having such a hard time with this language.

I don't know what you mean.

Then stop making statements like you do.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
6.6.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @6.6.28    2 years ago
I'm sorry you seem to be having such a hard time with this language.

No reason to be sorry as I have no hard time with your humorous thinking.

Then stop making statements like you do

I'll stop pretending to have a clue what you may really mean.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.6.30  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ozzwald @6.6.6    2 years ago

Not confused.  Not in the least.  I will give you credit for trying to deflect the subject.  You failed, but I'll still give you credit.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.31  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6.3    2 years ago
Said nobody with a functioning brain.

What can you say when folks get their 'news' from late night comedians and social media?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
6.6.32  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @6.6.31    2 years ago

Isn't a prerequisite for being a comedian that the person has to be funny?  I think that all ended with Carson, Leno and Letterman.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.6.33  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @6.6.32    2 years ago
Isn't a prerequisite for being a comedian that the person has to be funny? 

Used to be that way.

Now, late night comedians (or wanna-be comedians) are major sources of 'news' for many of our liberal friends.

Which seems to be the reason so many of them are so misinformed.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

Thank you Elon Musk for returning the freedom of speech to Americans and even people in not so free countries.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 years ago
B efore   Elon Musk   bought Twitter, slurs against Black Americans showed up on the social media service an average of 1,282 times a day. After the billionaire became Twitter’s owner, they jumped to 3,876 times a day.

Slurs against gay men appeared on Twitter 2,506 times a day on average before Mr. Musk took over. Afterward, their use rose to 3,964 times a day.

And antisemitic posts referring to Jews or Judaism soared more than 61 percent in the two weeks after Mr. Musk acquired the site.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    2 years ago

I just showed you the facts. Keep listening to MSN.

And BTW, don't bother talking about anti-Semitism. The democratic party is LOADED with anti-Semites!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
7.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    2 years ago

Like Obama...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
7.1.3  Jasper2529  replied to  Greg Jones @7.1.2    2 years ago
Like Obama...

And election denier/racist/anti-Semite Hakeem Jeffries.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jasper2529 @7.1.3    2 years ago
And election denier/racist/anti-Semite Hakeem Jeffries.

It's amazing.

Democrats last week:  Election denial is an assault on Democracy. 

Democrats this week:  Let's elect Hakeem Jefferies our leader in the House. 

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
7.1.5  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    2 years ago

Are these sanitized numbers like the bragged-about libs upvoting conservative losers in the primaries?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.2  cjcold  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    2 years ago

So happy that fascists can propagate hate speech on twitter now. 

 
 
 
bugsy
Professor Participates
7.2.1  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @7.2    2 years ago

You're still on Twitter?

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
8  Thrawn 31    2 years ago

The sooner Twitter is dead the better. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1  Texan1211  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8    2 years ago
The sooner Twitter is dead the better.

Why? Because liberals now hate the owner?

 
 
 
George
Sophomore Expert
8.1.1  George  replied to  Texan1211 @8.1    2 years ago

We can’t have a media that reaches millions instantly outside of the liberals control. Plus CNN has announced it is moving to the right with mass layoffs planned. It appears being an ignorant lying piece of shit is bad business if you are a news agency. Liberals are losing control of the messaging.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8.1.3  cjcold  replied to  George @8.1.1    2 years ago

You seem to hate liberals. Please define what you think a liberal is.

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
8.1.4  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @8.1.3    2 years ago

Seems to me that a liberal is the opposite of a fascist.

I am proud to be a liberal.

Are you proud to call yourself a fascist?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
8.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @8.1.4    2 years ago
Are you proud to call yourself a fascist?

That seems a very strange question to ask of yourself.

Got an answer?

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
8.2  squiggy  replied to  Thrawn 31 @8    2 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Junior Guide
9  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

It will be interesting to see what comes out and if there are any congressional committees coming out of any revelations.  I will not say this is the beginning for the end of the Biden Cartel (even though I just said it) but we may find there are some people getting very nervous about what comes out and if there was actually any collusion between twitter and the Democrats to kill information that would make Joe look bad.  That sure would sound like election tampering, something the dems are sometimes against.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

It's nice to be vindicated, again.  That Twitter and the MSM simply went into protect Biden at all costs mode and simply threw  together ad hoc justifications to suppress and censor  the story  was obvious from day one.  And it is interesting to see that Twitter lied to the FEC about having no contact with the Biden campaign over the story. The most predictable thing of all is the reaction from the corporatist left, who've gone full Mussolini and cheer on the merger of massive corporations and the government.  

At the end of the day the real import of stories like this is they explain of how we end up with Trump as President. The media is so obviously corrupt and so willing to do anything to win, that someone like Trump becomes possible. He's just a mirror image of the sort of mindset that suppresses, censors and lies about stories for partisan advantage. If the media is so shamelessly corrupt, what does it matter if Trump lies, cheats etc?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @10    2 years ago

The Biden sycophants must really be worried about the whole truth coming out.

The Biden plan to squelch the stories about his son seem to be exposed now, and that must be upsetting them to know the whole public will be exposed to the truth.

Must be a little embarrassing to them after going after the Trump offspring for so long with no real results.

 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1    2 years ago
The Biden plan to squelch the stories about his son seem to be exposed now, and that must be upsetting them to know the whole public will be exposed to the truth.

Hunter really isn't the main focus and never was. What Americans will now learn is how compromised and indebted to Communist China Joe Biden was prior to the 2020 election and still is.

I was glad to see that Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) has been the first brave Democrat to speak out and defend Musk's exposé about this issue.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.2  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.1    2 years ago

Are you proud of your false accusations?

Joe and Jill Biden's tax returns for the last twenty years were made public and have been available to the press and to his gop enemies all along. If he personally profited from graft or ever concealed income it could have and would have been revealed. Unless you have proof otherwise you should be ashamed of making false allegations against Joe. So, please do double down and throw in some false accusations of child abuse and rape as well. [deleted]

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @10.1.2    2 years ago

And you should be ashamed of making false allegations against Trump

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.4  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.3    2 years ago

Michael Coen, Donald Trump Jr and Rudy Giuliani have all publicly confirmed that beginning in 2014 and continuing right up to election day in 2016 Trump was in constant serious negotiations with Vlad Putin to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.4    2 years ago

Not one damn thing illegal about that, so why keep beating that dead horse ad finitum?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.3    2 years ago
And you should be ashamed of making false allegations against Trump

The most severe cases of TDS don't allow for that.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.7  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.3    2 years ago

I never accused Trump of paedophilia...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.7    2 years ago
I never accused Trump of paedophilia...

He didn't say you did.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.9  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.5    2 years ago

But, you don't think the FBI & CIA noticed?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.10  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.8    2 years ago

Are you saying he hasn't about Biden?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.9    2 years ago
But, you don't think the FBI & CIA noticed?

Who besides you gives a fuck about something totally legal?

It is ONLY because it is Trump that you are so fixated on meaningless drivel.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.10    2 years ago
Are you saying he hasn't about Biden?

What did YOU read in my comment????????????

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.13  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.11    2 years ago

Hint - The CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's Russian dealings began long before the 2016 election and were legally predicated on Trump searching out, meeting with and establishing long term contracts with Russian agents and spies!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.14  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.12    2 years ago

If you are going to play games FUCK OFF!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.13    2 years ago

Still nothing illegal despite all the investigations.

You are going on about shit that was deemed legal, so I really don't understand why you are so fixated in trivial bullshit.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.14    2 years ago
If you are going to play games FUCK OFF!

Grown-up reply to a simple question---one I noticed you studiously avoided answering for some strange, strange reason.

Your responses lead me to think you didn't understand what you read or didn't read it at all.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.18  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.15    2 years ago

No, I am going back to my original point which you have evaded. That being, your pal Jasper accuses the President of the United States of personally profiting from secret deals with China and that Biden is greatly personally in debt to China. Considering the Biden's taxes are public any proof of Jasper's wild dangerous untrue false accusations against our President demand proof. Pruduce It!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.19  JBB  replied to    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.20  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.18    2 years ago

Exactly, when the investigation is complete, it may turnout that only Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim Biden, plus three others profited from CEFC, the Chinese company. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.21  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.20    2 years ago

And, the Senate must look at Jarrod and the billions he got from the Saudis but it is all for naught. While Democrats have long tried to make it illegal for the families of high officials to personally profit from their access to power the gop has steadfastly stopped them at every turn!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.22  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.16    2 years ago

As of noon today, Left wing media, including NYT and WaPo, hadn't reported anything about Musk's 2020 Twitter exposing bombshell about Hunter's Laptop from Hell and the Biden Crime Family. Joe Biden is directly implicated, thanks to his, Hunter's, and others' correspondences. Since many Biden devotees believe that only left wing news is 'real news' perhaps that's why they don't know about this.

As one pundit put it (paraphrased) ... Musk's 2022 Twitter and the NY Post's October 2020 factual Biden Bombshell exposés make Watergate look like jaywalking. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.23  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.21    2 years ago
And, the Senate must look at Jarrod and the billions he got from the Saudis but it is all for naught.

I'm good with that.

While Democrats have long tried to make it illegal for the families of high officials to personally profit from their access to power the gop has steadfastly stopped them at every turn!

 Like Paul Pelosi's uncanny ability to outperform the markets with stock picks? 

.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.24  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.23    2 years ago

As bad as it may look for the friends and family of government officials to make a buck, they are still allowed to by law...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.25  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.24    2 years ago

Has someone here said that it isn’t?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.26  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.22    2 years ago

You should bet the farm on what some pudit said. Get back to us when it is illegal for the kids of politicians to work or to earn a buck. Because it is legal...

Nobody cared the first hundred times your Hunter "bombshell" burst years ago because Hunter Biden was not running for office and whatever he was accused of was legal as long as he paid his taxes. He may be a cad, but he is not his dad.

Joe Biden's taxes are public so either put up or shut up with your irresponsible BS!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.27  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.25    2 years ago

Inferred! Dodge is also a city in Kansas...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.28  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.20    2 years ago

Is it okay for service members to publicly accuse the President, their Commander In Chief, of illegally and personally profiting from secret deals with China and of hiding his personal indebtedness to China?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.29  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.28    2 years ago

I haven't done that.  What did I write that confused you?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1.30  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @10.1.13    2 years ago
"and were legally predicated on Trump searching out, meeting with and establishing long term contracts with Russian agents and spies!"

That was not illegal, there is no proof of what you claim, and nothing ever came from the baseless allegations

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
10.1.31  Snuffy  replied to  JBB @10.1.26    2 years ago

You know, change a couple of names and you could be a Trumpster defending Trump.  You sound just like the extremists did for the past few years.  [deleted]

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1.32  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @10.1.18    2 years ago
" Pruduce It!"

Well DUH!  We need the investigations to discover the truth!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.33  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @10.1.26    2 years ago
Get back to us when it is illegal for the kids of politicians to work or to earn a buck. Because it is legal...

Not when your father is the sitting Vice-President of the USA, you have no skills, and the millions of USD come to you from Communist China, Iran, and Russia with "10% for The Big Guy".

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.34  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.33    2 years ago

Joe Biden held no public offices from January of 2017 till January of 2021...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.35  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.33    2 years ago

Prove it and you have him but remember that Biden's taxes are public. If there was proof he concealed income you have him.

But, there is none so you are going bust!

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
10.1.36  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @10.1.4    2 years ago

Yup a hotelier wanting to build and open a hotel in Moscow is talking to the head guy there and trying to get a good deal. Imagine that. Who would ever think a businessman would do that

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
10.1.37  arkpdx  replied to  JBB @10.1.2    2 years ago
Joe and Jill Biden's tax returns for the last twenty years were made public and have been available 

Maybe I missed it. What line on the tax forms asks how much under the table and/or illegal payoffs did you receive from foreign governments or as a cut from those payments given to you son did you receive this year?

Tell me this did China  issue him a W-2 or a 1099 for that money and did they report that money to the IRS?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
10.1.38  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1    2 years ago

There are many problems in this world today.

Pretty sure that Hunter Biden's imaginary laptop is not one of them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.39  Texan1211  replied to  cjcold @10.1.38    2 years ago
Pretty sure that Hunter Biden's imaginary laptop is not one of them.

Imaginary laptop?

Get informed!

LMMFAO!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.40  Texan1211  replied to  arkpdx @10.1.37    2 years ago
Maybe I missed it.

You didn't miss it.

The same folks who squealed about Trump's tax returns for YEARS are now somehow satisfied with the IRS looking at the Biden tax returns and determining that they were fine just like Trump's.

Talk about a double standard--could they BE more obvious about it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.41  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.30    2 years ago
That was not illegal, there is no proof of what you claim, and nothing ever came from the baseless allegations

He has spouted and re-spouted the same shit for years now--long enough to convince himself that he has an actual point.

It is simply laughable nonsense.

I know it, you know it, most thinking adults know it, but there is ALWAYS one person willing to fall for anything!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.42  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.18    2 years ago
No, I am going back to my original point which you have evaded.

When you learn to follow an actual dialog, you will learn that my initial response to you had nothing to do with Jasper's comment, I commented on the shit YOU posted.

Do at least try to keep up and stop trying to change what you wrote.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.43  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.13    2 years ago
CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's Russian dealings began long before the 2016 election and were legally predicated on Trump searching out, meeting with and establishing long term contracts with Russian agents and spies!

Why do you continue to lie about this? What does it gain you?  

 Telling the same lie and embarrassing yourself thousands of times seems like an exercise in futility. Very Trump like of you. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.44  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.43    2 years ago
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Tessylo
Professor Principal
10.1.45  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @10.1.4    2 years ago

His state of denial is fucking ludicrous

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.46  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.45    2 years ago

Yes, and yet we are supposed to believe the CIA and FBI never noticed when Trump and Co had over a hundred meetings with known Russian agents in the years before 2016. That the CIA and FBI were completely oblivious to all of that...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.47  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.46    2 years ago

Exactly, whatabout…

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.48  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.46    2 years ago
Yes, and yet we are supposed to believe the CIA and FBI never noticed when Trump and Co had over a hundred meetings with known Russian agents in the years before 2016. That the CIA and FBI were completely oblivious to all of that

And yet, not one single charge has ever been filed despite all the investigations you constantly refer to.

A big nothing.

Again.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.49  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.48    2 years ago
one single charge has ever been filed despite all the investigations you constantly refer to.

Crazy how imaginary investigations yielded no charges. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.50  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.49    2 years ago
Crazy how imaginary investigations yielded no charges. 

You would think that with ALL of these 'investigations' by so many different agencies that SOMETHING illegal could be found.

Maybe a course in business practices is in order for those who don't fully understand the inner workings of them?

Personally, I would be embarrassed to keep beating a dead horse that could never run anyways!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.51  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.48    2 years ago

Thank you for finally conceding that the origins of the CIA and FBI investigations (plural) into Trump's Russian dealings were legally predicated and predated 2016 by years...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.52  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.46    2 years ago
Yes, and yet we are supposed

What you SHOULD believe is that all of it was thoroughly investigated (according to you) and all was perfectly legal and therefore the investigations turned up ZERO!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.53  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.51    2 years ago
Thank you for finally conceding that the origins of the CIA and FBI investigations (plural) into Trump's Russian dealings were legally predicated and predated 2016 by years..

And ALL turned up what?

Say it with me:

ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.54  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.51    2 years ago

Was he trying to get some Russian hotel deals when Hillary was trying to hit the Reset Button?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.55  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.54    2 years ago

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JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.56  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.54    2 years ago

Although Mrs Clinton retired from public service in January of 2013 her campaign obviously knew a great deal about the CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's dealings with clandestine agents of Russian State Intelligence Services. The origins of those investigations long predated 2016 and were fully legally predicated by Trump seeking out, having meetings with and establishing long term relationships with many Russian spies and spooks.  This disproves all of Donald Trump's and John Durham's outrageous claims otherwise. People were not lying about it, they were telling the truth. This is why John Durham's cases were embarrassing bombs. The investigation of Russian collision with  the 2016 Trump campaign was only an extension of ongoing investigations into Trump's secretive dealings with Russian spies!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.57  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.56    2 years ago

 were fully legally predicated by Trump

What does that mean?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.58  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.57    2 years ago

It means Trump is full of shit and John Durham was doomed.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.59  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.56    2 years ago
People were not lying about it, they were telling the truth. This is why Solomon's cases were embarrassing bombs.

What does that even mean? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.60  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.59    2 years ago

It means juries will not convict people telling the truth of lying!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.61  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.60    2 years ago
juries will not convict people telling the truth of lying!

I have no idea what the Solomon's cases were and I doubt they had anything to do with the legal predicate for the imaginary Trump investigations you, Trump like, obsess about. 

But I invite you for the thousandth time  to provide proof,  for once. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.62  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.61    2 years ago

I meant John Durham. Have you never heard of him?

Solomon is also a lying rightwing conspiracy nutter... 

John Durham could not convict truth tellers of lying!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.63  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.58    2 years ago
It means Trump is full of shit and John Durham was doomed.

So nothing new.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.64  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.63    2 years ago

Yes, so maybe you should explain it, again, to Sean and Texan...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.65  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.62    2 years ago
eant John Durham. Have you never heard of him?

The problem for you  I is I have. Unlike you, I'm actually familiar with those cases.

Those cases have nothing to do with  " investigations long predated 2016 and were fully legally predicated by Trump".  

But for the thousandth and first time,  please provide proof  of your claim. Otherwise you are lying. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.66  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.64    2 years ago

There doesn't seem to be anything new to explain.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.67  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.64    2 years ago
Yes, so maybe you should explain it, again, to Sean and Texan...

The only thing I need explained is your obsession with 'investigations' that turned up absolutely nothing.

Got an explanation, or is it just your Trump obession showing up yet once again?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.68  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.67    2 years ago

It is okay to admit you have been wrong about everything...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.69  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.65    2 years ago

So, how was Hillary's campaign responsible for instigating the CIA and FBI investigations (plural) into Trump's secret negotiations with clandestine agents of Putin's Russian State Intelligence Services in 2016 that began years before 2016? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.70  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.56    2 years ago
The investigation of Russian collision with  the 2016 Trump campaign was only an extension of ongoing investigations into Trump's secretive dealings with Russian spies!

And turned up what exactly?

Oh, that's right---NOTHING!!

LMAO at people pointing to 'investigations' which resulted in nothing.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.71  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.68    2 years ago
It is okay to admit you have been wrong about everything...

So when will you (if ever) admit that all these 'investigations' you keep going on about resulted in absolutely nothing?

It is an exercise in futility to point out that investigations resulting in nothing is somehow bad for the person investigated.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.72  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.69    2 years ago
began years before 2016? 

What year did they begin?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.73  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.69    2 years ago

How could Hillary  be responsible for imaginary investigations?

Do you claim she bears imaginary responsibility?, 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.74  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.70    2 years ago

original Do you call this no evidence? It looks like lots of evidence to me!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.75  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.74    2 years ago

Is that a picture of the $1.7 billion that Obama had flown to Iran?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.76  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.73    2 years ago

The FBI and CIA do not confirm or deny facts of investigations.

Except in "Need To Know" situations, like Durham's trial judges!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.77  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.75    2 years ago

No, it is the evidence against Trump seized at Mar-A-Lardo...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.78  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.77    2 years ago

Oh, so not Russian collusion. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.79  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.74    2 years ago

evidence of WHAT?????

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.80  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @10.1.74    2 years ago

Where's the link for that photo? Without a link, it's not evidence of anything.

To me, it merely looks like 5 pallets of cardboard boxes wrapped in green plastic located in Anywhere, The Universe.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.81  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.76    2 years ago

BI and CIA do not confirm or deny facts of investigations

They absolutely do. I know Trump was investigated and can tell you when it began and the legal predicate for it.  It was front page news for over a year.  Don't know how you missed it. 

Would you like to be told, again?

xcept in "Need To Know" situations, like Durham's trial judges!

Lol. You literally have no idea what the Durham trials were about. You just make shit up and claim that's what was at issue. It would be funny if it weren't so transparently pathetic. 

Who do you imagine is dumb enough to fall for your silly bullshit? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.82  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.80    2 years ago

Is Bloomberg credible enough for you?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.83  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.81    2 years ago

The extent to which you will go into denial and blindness to excuse Trump's MAGA lies and criminality is kind of cute, and pathetic...

It takes suspension of reality to believe the FBI and CIA never noticed and did not investigate Trump's Russian dealings and relationships with Russian spies and intelligence agents...

Again, Rudy Giuliani, Michael Cohen and Donald Trump Jr are on the record confirming that Donald Trump maintained constant secret negotiations with clandestine agents of Russian State Intelligence Services and Putin himself to cut a deal to build Trump Tower Moscow beginning in 2014 and continuing right up to election day in 2016. The FBI and CIA knew. They were watching and listening!

It is impossible to believe they did not or could be so negligent.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.84  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.79    2 years ago

Some of the evidence from FBI investigations of Trump is in evidence in NY in the government's case against the Trump Organization. I expect we will see Trump charged for stealing government secrets and seditious conspiracy very soon...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.85  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.84    2 years ago
I expect we will see Trump charged for stealing government secrets and seditious conspiracy very soon.

What about Russian collusion?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.86  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.85    2 years ago

I do not think so, but that does not mean it did not happen!

Is OJ innocent of murder? Did Al Capone only dodge taxes?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.87  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.84    2 years ago

you keep jumping all over the place when someone calls you on your bullshit.

probably some photoshopped crapola just like your Shell sign was really a Suncoco sign was

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
10.1.88  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @10.1.86    2 years ago
Is OJ innocent of murder?

Of course, he still searches for Nicole's killer.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.89  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @10.1.82    2 years ago
Is Bloomberg credible enough for you?

Well, Bloomberg is behind a paywall, so I cannot read the article you linked. However, I CAN see the blurry photo's caption:

Several pallets of document boxes ready for shipment to Trump's Mar-a-Lago club, according to a July 2021 email from Trump’s post-presidential office. General Services Administration via Freedom of Information Act request.

I can also see this ...

A federal agency worked WITH Trump staff to move the boxes that were already packed and loaded on pallets, emails show

What "federal agency" oversaw this? It appears that Trump and his staff worked WITH that federal agency and complied with its requests.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
10.1.90  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @10.1.46    2 years ago
"known Russian agents"

What were their names?

 
 
 
MonsterMash
Sophomore Quiet
10.1.91  MonsterMash  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @10.1.75    2 years ago
Is that a picture of the $1.7 billion that Obama had flown to Iran?

No, it's a picture from Pic-A-Pallet

OIP.7BxfYZuJ7VOpL6Czg65fxwHaJ4?pid=ImgDet&w=150&h=199&c=7

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.92  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.89    2 years ago

Here is a small sample...

original

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.93  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.83    2 years ago
he extent to which you will go into denial and blindness to excuse Trump's MAGA lies and criminality is kind of cute, and pathet

Lol. It's very easy. I can, and have, proven to you many times when Trump was investigated and what the cause was.

You, Trump like, lie and make things up.  

It's very simple. Provide proof of your allegations or continue to be exposed as a liar. 

Giuliani, Michael Cohen and Donald Trump Jr are on the record confirming that Donald Trump maintained constant secret negotiations with clandestine agents of Russian State Intelligence Services and Putin himself

No. They didn't. You've embarrassed yourself countless times with this lie.  Read your sources before posting them. Words have meanings.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.94  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.90    2 years ago

I provided you this information before. There were over 100!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.95  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.93    2 years ago

The most rudimentary of internet searches proves you wrong!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.96  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.94    2 years ago

Lol. Do you not read your own sources? It doesn't even make that claim. 

Russians are not "Russian agents"

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.97  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.95    2 years ago

Try real hard to understand the words in that link and then look at your claims. 

They don't match. 

Just becuase your link contains words like Trump, Russia, Hotel  doesn't mean your lies are true.  You actually have to provide specific proof of each claim.

But of course, you can't do that because your link doesn't support the actual allegations you make. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.98  Jasper2529  replied to  Greg Jones @10.1.90    2 years ago
"known Russian agents"
-------------------------------------
What were their names?

If you're Adam Schiff, their names are Vladimir "Vovan" Kuznetsov and Alexey "Lexus" Stolyarov ... the fake news Trump "pee-pee tape" guys. And people still believe this stuff.

ROFL!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.99  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.96    2 years ago

Trump was not trying to buy a house in the suburbs. He was applying to the highest levels of the Russian government to obtain a very special and extremely valuable permission to build a super highrise luxury Trump Hotel across the street from the damn Kremlin. Something nobody has ever achieved. Trump and Co were not meeting with real estate agents. They were agents of Putin's Russian State Intelligence Services. Do you understand?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.100  JBB  replied to  Jasper2529 @10.1.98    2 years ago

You ridiculing me is proof enough you really have nothing left!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.101  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.99    2 years ago
s. He was applying to the highest levels of the Russian government to obtain a very special and extremely valuable permission to build

Pay attention. Michael Cohen was in talks to allow some Russians to license the Trump Tower name. Trump wasn't building anything. He didn't apply for anything.  The Russian groups were going to build, manage  and own it and pay  a fee to use the "Trump Tower" brand.  Trump wasn't involved in the discussions, as Mueller's investigation shows. 

You really should read the Mueller report. It would stop you from sharing these crazy conspiracies. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
10.1.102  Snuffy  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.101    2 years ago

But when someone can continue to push false theories and provide no proof for the claim, they can sound quite Trumpian.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
10.1.103  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.101    2 years ago

What Russians? Boris and Natasha? Nothing you say alters the fact that the CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's Russian dealings long predated 2016 and were legally predicated on Trump seeking out and meeting with Russian agents thus initiating those investigations the same as would happen with anyone else in the same situation doing the same shady stuff!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
10.1.104  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @10.1.103    2 years ago
ing you say alters the fact that the CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's Russian dealings long predated 2016 and were legally predicated

Stop talking in circles and prove it. It's so easy to do (if the investigations  actually existed and you weren't lying).  But I know you can't. You know you can't. And everyone reading knows you can't. 

Rather than admit you have no idea what you are talking about,  you lie and lie and lie some more , as if repeating a lie makes it true. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.105  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @10.1.103    2 years ago
Nothing you say alters the fact that the CIA and FBI investigations into Trump's Russian dealings long predated 2016 and were legally predicated on Trump seeking out and meeting with Russian agents thus initiating those

And NOTHING you claim about those 'investigations' ended up with any trace of illegalities.

Keep beating a dead horse with no point whatsoever, [deleted]

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
10.1.106  dennissmith  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.42    2 years ago

You should know by now that that is not possible

 
 
 
dennissmith
Freshman Silent
10.1.107  dennissmith  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.104    2 years ago

The spin and deflection continue as expected from the left

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.1.108  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @10.1.56    2 years ago
The origins of those investigations long predated 2016 and were fully legally predicated by Trump seeking out, having meetings with and establishing long term relationships with many Russian spies and spooks. 

Still pushing this fiction I see.  Much like every other "investigation" they come up empty.  Time to move on.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.1.109  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @10.1.74    2 years ago

Is that supposed to prove something?  There are hundreds of pallets like that in the supply warehouse where I work.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.110  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1.108    2 years ago

Does anyone here see any point in bringing up investigations that resulted in NOTHING?

Hell, one may as well as talk about the weather, it is far more relevant than meaningless, empty investigations.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.1.111  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.110    2 years ago
Does anyone here see any point in bringing up investigations that resulted in NOTHING?

When that is all they have I guess.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.112  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1.109    2 years ago
There are hundreds of pallets like that in the supply warehouse where I work.  

I don't trust that the picture is of what is claimed anyways.

Just basing that on personal experience with some "photos" here being completely debunked.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
10.1.113  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @10.1.112    2 years ago

Especially coming from somebody who is only competent in providing mindless meme's.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
10.1.114  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10.1.113    2 years ago

Well, to be fair, memes are usually harder to debunk than some of the fact-less posts.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
10.1.115  Jasper2529  replied to  JBB @10.1.100    2 years ago
You ridiculing me is proof enough you really have nothing left!

How did I ridicule you in comment 10.1.98 ? Is your name Adam Schiff?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11  Drinker of the Wry    2 years ago

What is it that you think that I'm trying to dodge?

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
11.1  cjcold  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @11    2 years ago
What is it that you think that I'm trying to dodge?

The same thing all right wingers try to dodge....Reality

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Junior Expert
11.1.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  cjcold @11.1    2 years ago

What makes you write that?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
12  Ender    2 years ago
@briantylercohen
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So Twitter was acting under orders of the government except Biden wasn't POTUS in 2020. And it's a First Amendment violation except Twitter can't violate 1A as a private biz. And the takedown requests from team Biden were nudes against Twitter's TOS. But going great otherwise!
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13  JohnRussell    2 years ago

I have a question for all the laptop kool-aid drinkers.

Is there any indication or evidence that anyone in the mainstream media takes this 'conspiracy' nonsense seriously? The stampede to make Hunter Biden the focal point for all the dysfunction in America comes entirely from the fever swamped right. 

The "twitter files" are largely a dud. Google it. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13    2 years ago
s there any indication or evidence that anyone in the mainstream media takes this 'conspiracy' nonsense seriously?

Yes sir, they are all upset about it. They interfered in an election. Musk holds the receipts!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
13.1.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.1    2 years ago

Show us where in Musk's Twitter Dump is any evidence that Democrats or the government pressured Twitter to not run with wild unfounded accusations and speculation about the Bidens! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @13.1.1    2 years ago

It took you all this time to come up with a question that you thought could technically not be proven?

We didn't have to even wait for Musk. First we had the 52 former intelligence progressive officials who made their infamous claim just after the Post came out with the story to say it looked like "Russian disinformation." Then after the election Mark Zuckerberg told us of the FBI warning he got:




So the idea that we need to wait for any more carefully worded e-mails from Twitter is DOA.

 
 
 
George
Sophomore Expert
13.2  George  replied to  JohnRussell @13    2 years ago

Holy fuck John, your defense for the mainstream media colluding with the FBI and intelligence community to bury a story is……the mainstream media isn’t covering the story of them colluding with the fbi and intelligence community?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA……..

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
13.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  George @13.2    2 years ago

So you want us to take Fox News, Brietbart,  Rudy Giuliani , the New York Post's, Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene's word for it? LMAO. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @13.2    2 years ago

Lol....and let us not forget the 52 former intelligence officials who said it looked like Russian disinformation.

Don't you just love it when the FBI & CIA are careful to protect themselves with the way they say something?

It's kind of like when a devout progressive says "I just want the police to do the right thing."

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.1    2 years ago

John, all of the MSM has now admitted that the laptop is Hunter's.

 
 
 
George
Sophomore Expert
13.2.4  George  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.1    2 years ago

Remember when the Nazi’s propaganda paper NY times said 16 intelligence agencies said Trump collusion with Russia? We all can tell exactly where you get your “news”.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
13.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  George @13.2.4    2 years ago

Lol..That's when candidate Clinton and her campaign manager kept talking about 16 intelligence agencies!  

It took about a month before anyone asked "Who the hell are these 16 intelligence agencies?"

 
 
 
George
Sophomore Expert
13.2.6  George  replied to  Vic Eldred @13.2.5    2 years ago

One was the Coast Guard, still laughing at all morons who bought into that. Or the mindless drones who still bleat Helsinki.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
13.2.7  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @13.2.1    2 years ago
So you want us to take Fox News, Brietbart,  Rudy Giuliani , the New York Post's, Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene's word for it? LMAO. 

Ignoring reality is nothing to be laughing about.

FFS, look at some of your very own chosen sources and you would find that they finally, begrudgingly admitted that the laptop was Biden's.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
Professor Expert
13.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @13    2 years ago
Is there any indication or evidence that anyone in the mainstream media takes this 'conspiracy' nonsense seriously?

More evidence / indication that there was wrongdoing by the previous administration.  But you keep beating that dead horse.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
14  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Sandman wants his 15 minutes of fame back.

Nicholas Sandmann wants Musk to find 'hidden' Twitter files related to threats he received as minor
December 6, 2022   |   Washington Times, The (DC)
Author/Byline: Matt Delaney, THE WASHINGTON TIMES   |   Section: National
375 Words   |   Readability: Lexile: 1670, grade level(s): >12
The former high school student who became the antagonist in a media-driven controversy at the March for Life nearly four years ago now wants   Elon   Musk   to release the “hidden" Twitter files related to the death threats he received in light of that coverage.

Nicholas Sandmann urged Twitter’s new boss to release the company’s internal communications surrounding his 2019 incident in the same way Mr.   Musk   shared information about Twitter’s behind-the-scenes suppression effort of the New York Post’s story on Hunter Biden’s laptop in 2020.

“As I’m watching this all play out, I’m wondering if [ Elon   Musk ] has any hidden twitter files relating to what went on here,” Mr. Sandmann tweeted Sunday. “Let’s be clear: under the watch of [Vijaya Gadde] they allowed these illegal threats when I was 16 years old.”


 
 
 
George
Sophomore Expert
14.1  George  replied to  JohnRussell @14    2 years ago

Actually, he probably wants the evidence to sue and charge douchebags with terrorist threatening.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
14.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @14    2 years ago

Sandmann wants the ugly truth about what the media did to him exposed.

Many liberals lied about Sandmann and what actually happened. 

And kept lying for months.

Years, in some cases.

 
 

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