Doing it right
I want to applaud democrats for passing what they have incorrectly called "the respect for marriage act." When a new right is created, it should be created through legislation. Most people were in favor of this and even though a Court ruling indicates that it is already the law of the land, the legislation means that it shall remain that way. The people have spoken through their elected representatives as the founders intended.
"The signing took place after a ceremony and string of performances from gay entertainers. The bill, which received support from nearly 40 House Republicans last week to send it to the president, repeals the federal Defense of Marriage Act that was signed by President Bill Clinton in 1996."
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/biden-signs-gay-marriage-bill?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs
The moral question about marriage is secondary and left for future generations.
It is a good day for The Constitution
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Today's civics lesson.
WHAT'S SO FUNNY ABOUT PEACE, LOVE, AND UNDERSTANDING?
Who said anything about funny?
I DON"T KNOW, YOU TELL ME?
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Roughly 80% of the GOP senators voted against the bill.
The morning news was full of hair on fire comments from people who disapprove of this legislation. they're afraid the IRS will start taxing their churches if they don't perform same sex marriage ceremonies. They probably got that from Chief Hair of Fire Tom Cotton
And? Isn't this already covered under the full faith and credit [clause?deleted]
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Bi-partisan lawmakers codifying an implicit right, but an implicit right subject to the puritanical whims of today’s SCOTUS. How is it not a good thing?
Did you understand what I said?
Now it is!
Have they forgotten this law also protects interracial marriage?
So you don't understand how our government works. Let me help you.
1. Congress passes laws, the don't give you rights implicit or otherwise.
2. The supreme court can tell congress to shove the law at any point by ruling it unconstitutional. Congress can't overrule the supreme court.
It's federal law now for all the states.
This debate is finally over
If Congress passes a law that provides the legal means for an individual to take a particular action, they have provided an explicit right. For example, we have the explicit right to operate a motor vehicle if we meet the state requirements to secure a license. Here, Congress has provided the explicit right for same-sex couples to be legally married if they meet the requirements of the state in which the marriage was performed.
The SCotUS typically is the agent which identifies implicit rights in extant law (especially in the CotUS). An implicit right is one that exists by reasonable interpretation but is not explicitly stated. An example implicit right is indeed the right to marry (as is the right to travel, education, privacy, etc.). Congress has now made explicit the right to marry and, in so doing, eliminated the ambiguity of the implied constitutional right so that same-sex marriages are explicitly a right (no debate now).
Because unlike the Democrats; the GOP doesn't have forced party line votes.
Seems that many of those that voted against the bill didn't think it went far enough in protecting religious freedom; especially from frivolous lawsuits.
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The GOP Senate should have held out for a better version of the bill with full religious freedom protection clauses; but there are far too many RINOs.
We Democrats/Liberals/Progressives and all decent people are doing the correct thing, not the hateful no plan the 'right' wing don't have
We always get it correct
the majority on the right/republicans/gqp are a bunch of hateful narrow minded losers, long lost in the past where they belong
love is love husband and husband
wife and wife
who cares?
Just those narrow minded losers lost in the past where they belong, like I said
We always get it correct
Not since I've been here.
love is love husband and husband
wife and wife
Are there other possible combinations?
who cares?
I only care about the Constitution and it was done right.
Well, since psychologists and sex experts now allege that there are over 70 genders these days, the combinations are endless. It's how one "feels" that matters!
“It's how one "feels" that matters!”
No, it’s actually how one reacts that matters.
Is the reaction based in ignorance, fear, self-righteousness or worse, political expediency?
Or does that reaction demonstrate acceptance, tolerance, and benevolence…even when and if one may not hold the same values?
Which reaction we display is the truest sign of how we have been raised, what we hold dear, and a sure testament to our character…individually and collectively.
And It's not just new genders. How about man and animal?
I don't care how anyone "feels," especially people with Harvard or Yale Law degrees. I care about the Constitution and finally this issue was settled correctly.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the deadline to avoid a government shutdown is Friday. Funding the government is the first responsibility of Congress. Not surprisingly Congress is more concerned with who is in whose pants.
Congress shirking its primary responsibility isn't what the Constitution is about. Legislation such as the 'Respect for Marriage Act' demonstrates that the Constitution is failing. Congress isn't defending democracy; Congress is promoting idiocracy.
"While the incoming House Republican majority is urging Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to hold leverage on Democrats' spending agenda before the new Congress, the leader is closing on a deal with Democrats anyway"
The key word in that link is 'omnibus'. It's an all or nothing package. And it's obvious the omnibus bill must pass or the government shuts down. A crisis created by the same Congressmen claiming to be resolving the crisis. Omnibus spending packages are prepared by committees reviewing the executive blue books and not by Congress. The executive branch actually prepares the omnibus legislation, not Congress. Omnibus spending packages clearly show that the Constitution is failing.
Congress no longer takes its Constitutional responsibilities seriously. That's why Congress celebrates passing legislation like the 'Respect for Marriage Act'. But that legislation only proves that Congress has abandoned the Constitution.
That's why we have inflation.
Not the only cause but a significant contributor. The biggest problem with omnibus spending packages is the entrenched practice of choosing winners and losers. Funding based on merit has been tossed aside just to avoid a self-made crisis.
When a person can be married in the morning and thrown out of a restaurant for being gay in the afternoon, this is still wrong.
Biden is, as usual, full of shit.
That of course doesn't happen. What happens is people get thrown out of restaurants for advocating Christian beliefs or not supporting Biden's beliefs. But he's okay with that,
You can personally guarantee that has never ever happened?
Their personal beliefs which are often not supported by the holy book they claim to be following. So, in other words, hypocrites.
I can't prove a negative. But go ahead and prove me wrong.
So, in other words, hypocrites
Right. If restaurants discriminate against hypocrites, how could a progressive ever eat out?
But sure, Which restaurants discriminate against all hypocrites?
But you made the claim, and I am asking you to prove a positive that what you claimed actually happened.
All of them should.
Lol. Do you not understand your own words? You literally asked "You can personally guarantee that has never ever happened?"
All of them should.
Sure. so there would be no such things as restaurants then. Good business plan.
Because you stated, "That of course doesn't happen."
So you are now admitting that you made a statement that you did not know was true, because you can't prove a negative.....
Do you know what to prove a negative means? I don't think you do.
you are now admitting that you made a statement that you did not know was true
No. I'm not. For your sake, I hope this is just an act you are putting on.
Do you know how to read? I don't think you do.
I am asking you for proof of your statement that it doesn't happen. Trouble is that you are telling me that it cannot be proven because you cannot prove a negative, which means you have nothing to base your claim on.
Please learn what to prove a negative is.
se you cannot prove a negative, which means you have nothing to base your claim on
Jews don't slaughter Christian children and drink their blood. I (and everyone else) cannot prove that statement. Do you believer the statement that Jews don't slaughter Christiaan children is based on nothing?
Just admit you pulled your claim out of your ass and move on.
Lol. You can't prove something happened (the easiest thing to do) so you demand I prove a negative (the impossible). Who do you imagine is dumb enough to fall for that?
Biden in 2006 telling the American people a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman isn't necessary because of the Defense of Marriage Act:
Pretty much every time a Democrat says "don't worry, the next step obviously won't happen," it does.
No one has claimed that Democrats have always supported gay marriage, they haven't. DOMA was passed under Clinton and was clearly discriminatory. Both parties have a long history of discriminating against the lgtbq community, just like they had a long history of discriminating against black Americans. The difference is in how they have changed, grown and evolved. Right wing conservative Republicans refuse to accept lgtbq Americans as equals, Democrats have chosen to open their eyes to the injustice and stopped discriminating, pushed to get rid of DOMA and are now advocating for lgtbq rights as any rational, loving, caring human should.
This is kind of funny coming from a man who
For decades, Biden opposed same-sex marriage
Biden is falsely claiming he was the first major leader to support same-sex marriage
Brandon's morals only extend as far as what it took to get him elected.
Wonder how much further he will have to sell out to the far left if he runs for reelection? Since he has already caved and given them whatever they wanted.
This just shows how the average Biden voter has no idea the level of failure they support as president.
You illustrated Biden's waffling over the years (spanning 50 years) regarding same-sex marriage and homosexuality. Given his generation, Biden is predisposed to discrimination of homosexuals. In general, he has progressed from that. Do you think it is bad that his views on homosexuality have evolved over the years or should he just stick with his generation's societal indoctrination of 'homosexuals are mentally ill'?
In the meantime, with regard to the level of failure of a PotUS, was (and is) Trump wrong to claim that the election of 2020 was rigged and that he is the legitimate PotUS?
No.
Why distract?
You recognize Biden's waffling over homosexuality (over 50 years) and chastise Biden voters based on his "level of failure" yet you cannot acknowledge even the most blatantly obvious, proven wrongdoing by Trump — his continual claim that the election of 2020 was rigged and that he is the legitimate PotUS.
Still trying to deflect I see. Time to move along.
Deflection is avoiding the subject. I acknowledged your point about Biden's waffling so there is no deflection by me by definition.
You, in contrast, are deflecting to avoid dealing with your refusal to acknowledge blatantly obvious, proven wrongdoing by Trump after criticizing Biden.
Lets see. I never mentioned any other POTUS. Just the hypocrite currently in office. YOU on the other hand seem to be SOS and keep bringing up another. That's deflection.
Time to move along..
Hypocrisy is ironically the correct word for refusing to even acknowledge blatant, proven, outrageous wrongdoing by one PotUS while criticizing another PotUS for waffling.
I think that it's important that ''they'' let us know when Biden starts selling trading cards on his political career and his presidency in particular. Now, that is something that would be a first, oh wait, no it wouldn't.
I was going to do a seed about this. I thought it was fake but apparently it isn't
Another sad commentary on the (embarrassing) stupidity of many Americans. Trump continues to milk stupidity.
When I first read the article I was looking for the satire tag but apparently it is what now sells to some in America.
It appears PT Barnum was correct.
"They will be gone, I believe, very quickly!”
Hopefully because nobody is dumb enough to buy them.
I don't think Pokémon is too worried...
Do you mind if I take that link and do a seed?
I was going to seed one about a study that showed that vaccine deniers are more likely to get into car accidents...
A real study by the way....
Didn't feel like dealing with some people....
Do it and seed it in Buttheads or Reality Show. I got your back and so does dev
Please, go ahead and I'm looking forward to it.
There are lot's of trump supporters more than willing to pick up an extra shift at the tilt-a-whirl just to buy those stupid fucking cards.
There are two safe spaces.
not for christo-fascists...
Don't look now...but you may have a surprise coming
Only if you make it a private group.
In the meantime, there are many who won't go on there. First of all, it's very degrading and beyond that it's neither satire, nor is it adult conversation.
I am the ultimate grifter.
The bananas are a nice touch