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Indiana Senate backs bill on student names, pronoun changes

  

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Via:  1stwarrior  •  last year  •  6 comments

Indiana Senate backs bill on student names, pronoun changes
Indiana schools may soon be required to notify parents if their children request a name or pronoun change at school

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Indiana schools may soon be required to notify parents if their children request a name or pronoun change at school, after the state Senate on Monday advanced a House bill that some worry could out transgender kids to their families.

The Republican-dominated state Senate's 37-12 vote came after intense committee hearings where residents derided the measure as an attack on the state's LGBTQ+ students, especially trans youth.

Like Indiana, Republican-led legislatures around the country have been seeking to curb LGBTQ+ rights, especially in targeting transgender individuals’ everyday life — including sports,   health care , workplaces and schools.

Under the Indiana bill, which the House first sent to the Senate in February, a school would have to provide written notification to a child's parent or guardian within five business days of the child asking to be called a different “pronoun, title, or word." Supporters say this approach would empower parents to choose how their children are raised.

“We know parents’ rights are important, and they need to know what’s going on in their child’s life at school,” Republican state Sen. Stacey Donato, one of the bill’s sponsors, said before Monday’s vote.

Protesters against the legislation, which originally resembled Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” law enacted last year, often filled the Statehouse hallways this session with thunderous cheers of “No hate in our state” and “Kill the bill.”

“Growing up in an abusive home made it impossible for me to come out earlier, though I’ve known that I’m nonbinary since the age of 5,” Quinn Mackenzie, a 30-year-old Indiana resident, testified during a Senate education committee hearing last month. “I know we all like to believe that every parent is, I believe the words were, competent and good-intentioned. But that hope does not reflect the sad reality.”

The parental notification bill would also bar schools from from teaching “human sexuality” in pre-K through third grade. One of the bill's authors, Republican state Rep. Michelle Davis, said this would put parents in control of “introducing sensitive topics to their children.”

But critics say the measure would inadvertently eliminate discussions about LGBTQ+ individuals in the classroom out of fear that such topics constitute “human sexuality,” which is not defined in the bill.

The proposal now returns to the state House chamber for a concurrence vote. If approved, the measure would then go to Republican Gov. Eric Holcomb, who recently signed a ban on all gender-affirming care for transgender youth.

“I want you to know that this bill, in my opinion, does not protect children or parental rights,” Democratic state Sen. J.D. Ford, the Legislature’s only openly gay member, said Monday. “Our teachers care about our children, and it’s insulting to the entire profession to think to think that there is a conspiracy ... of teachers trying to secretly teach our young children anything that is age inappropriate.”


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1stwarrior
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1  seeder  1stwarrior    last year

The parental notification bill would also bar schools from from teaching “human sexuality” in pre-K through third grade. One of the bill's authors, Republican state Rep. Michelle Davis, said this would put parents in control of “introducing sensitive topics to their children.”

In other words -let the parents raise the kids - not the schools.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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2  Buzz of the Orient    last year

I'd like to make it clear, since this is about the topic of nomenclature, that I prefer that when speaking/writing about me that my gender, from birth, is and has always been male, and the terms "he, him, his" be used and as to my being woke, it means not being asleep. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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3  Ronin2    last year
“Growing up in an abusive home made it impossible for me to come out earlier, though I’ve known that I’m nonbinary since the age of 5,” Quinn Mackenzie, a 30-year-old Indiana resident, testified during a Senate education committee hearing last month. “I know we all like to believe that every parent is, I believe the words were, competent and good-intentioned. But that hope does not reflect the sad reality.”

If he knew he was nonbinary at age 5- he must have been the most mature 5 year old ever in existence. 

Once they are 18; and legally considered adults they can take responsibility for their decisions. Which includes deciding what pronouns they want to go by, and it they want gender altering hormones and surgery. Until then their parents are responsible. And yes there are bad parents; but there are also messed up kids that don't know WTF they want; and bow to pressure easily in an effort to fit in.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Ronin2 @3    last year
'but there are also messed up kids that don't know WTF they want; and bow to pressure easily in an effort to fit in."

I suspect that a large amount of this problem is for that reason.

 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    last year

Parents should be notified. This is healthy.

Consider the alternative: The child and all the faculty and staff at the school are supposed to be keep it a secret? Until that child is grown? How is that a healthy relationship for anyone involved?

Imagine the stress of trying to keep this secret from your parents for years. We already have a problem with LGBT kids and their mental health. Keeping their issues secret will only magnify those problems.

Now, you might say that the parents will give the kid a hard time. Yeah, that's possible. But abusing your children is already a crime, and teachers are already mandatory reporters. Parents not only have the right to be part of the conversation; it's their responsibility. If they are inclined to handle it badly, then open communication with the child, and maybe an interested teacher or counselor can lead to healthy courses of action. 

At minimum, we want to facilitate love and support from the parents for their children. Keeping secrets will only sow mistrust and anxiety.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @4    last year
Parents should be notified. This is healthy.

Agree 100% with that.

Imagine having to get a parent's permission to give your child aspirin at school but keeping something life-changing from the parents.

 
 

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