╌>

Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  perrie-halpern  •  last year  •  12 comments

By:   Melissa Chan

Army aviators, ready to leave the military, are told they owe 3 more years instead
Hundreds of Army aviation officers who were set to leave the military are being held to another three years of service after they say the branch quietly reinterpreted part of their contract amid retention and recruitment issues.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T



Hundreds of Army aviation officers who were set to leave the military are being held to another three years of service after they say the branch quietly reinterpreted part of their contract amid retention and recruitment issues.

The shift has sparked an uproar among the more than 600 affected active-duty commissioned officers, including some who say their plans to start families, launch businesses and begin their civilian lives have been suddenly derailed.

"We are now completely in limbo,"said a captain who had scheduled his wedding around thinking he would be leaving the military this spring.

That captain and three other active-duty aviation officers who spoke to NBC News spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.

As part of a program known as BRADSO, cadets commissioning from the U.S. Military Academy or Army Cadet Command from 2008 and 2020 were able to request a branch of their choice, including aviation, by agreeing to serve an additional three years on active duty.

For years, the Army allowed some aviation officers to serve those three years concurrently, and not consecutively, along with their roughly contracted seven or eight years of service.

In a phone call with reporters Thursday, Army officials admitted "errors" in the system, which they noticed a few months ago, led to the discrepancy.

"We are fixing those errors, and we are in communication with the unit leadership and impacted officers," said Lt. Gen. Douglas Stitt, deputy chief of staff of G-1, which is in charge of policy and personnel.

"Our overall goal to correct this issue is to provide predictability and stability for our soldiers while maintaining readiness across our force," Stitt added.

In letters the Army sent this month to the affected aviators as well as to members of Congress, which were obtained by NBC News, it said it "realized" after conducting a "legal review of this policy" that the three-year BRADSO requirement has to be served separately.

"This is not a new policy, but we are correcting oversights in recordkeeping that led some officers with an applied BRADSO to separate from the U.S. Army before they were eligible," the letter said.

Thursday's media roundtable came after more than 140 aviation officers banded together to demand answers after learning one by one that they were being denied discharges due to outstanding BRADSO obligations beginning last fall.

More than 60 of them signed a letter to Congress outlining how they had been misled by the Army for years about the exact length of their service contract.

"It has been this unanimous uprising of emotions and frustrations," said another Army aviation captain, who is newly married and wanted to begin having children.

He called the reversal of a precedent an "injustice" to an already burnt-out department still regularly deployed despite the end of the longest war in American history.

"Yeah, the war on Afghanistan ended. There's still a high demand for Army aviation," he said, while en route to another deployment. "We have units still in constant training or deployment rotations.They're failing to recognize the human aspect."

The newlywed said it has been difficult for him and his wife to accept a three-year delay in starting a family.

"That was the big kick in the gonads," he said. "We wanted to start having kids, and we no longer can. It's a stressor we didn't plan to deal with."

Documents obtained by NBC News show officers were given conflicting information about their service obligations.

In an email sent on Sept. 1, 2022, a career manager with the Army Human Resources Command told an officer that his service obligation runs concurrently. But when he sat down with a manager last week, he said he did not get that same clear answer.

"It's demoralizing," said the officer, who has been living apart from his wife for years because she could not relocate for work. "This isn't the life we thought it was."

A former aviation captain — one of the last to leave the Army without serving her BRADSO requirement consecutively — said she had "many panic attacks" after learning the Army considered her to be among those who left before eligibility.

"It's a huge relief that I got out, but I have a lot of sorrow and pity for the others," said the former officer, whose request last April to be discharged was granted.

She asked to remain anonymous out of fear of being pulled back into service, as her nearly 2-year-old daughter cooed beside her.

On Thursday, Army officials said that at least 20 aviation officers were discharged without serving their BRADSO obligations consecutively but that they would not pull any of them back to serve retroactively.

Stitt said the Army needed a few more weeks to fully understand the scope of the issue, including how many officers are affected.

Maj. Gen. Tom Drew, commander of Army Human Resources Command, told NBC News he would personally handle case-by-case reviews of officers who had planned milestones, such as weddings.

Every branch of the U.S. military struggled to meet its fiscal year 2022 recruiting goals, NBC News previously reported. The Army recruited 45,000 people last year, falling slightly short of its goal, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said in March as officials launched a rebranding campaign to attract young people.

The affected officers believe these recruitment struggles, but mostly retention challenges, led the Army to review its BRADSO interpretation.

In 2020, the Army extended the length of service for new aviators from six years to at least a decade, citing increased costs and requirements for aircraft as the main reason.

Prior to this change, the Army said it had increased its incentive pay for aviators for the first time in 20 years to "help balance pilot numbers at all ranks and stay competitive with the civilian market."

Aviation officers are tasked with commanding flight platoons and leading operations using Army helicopters. But the vast majority handle administrative work and no longer fly, which had been a major perk of their job.

It factors heavily into their decision to leave the military once their contract is done in favor of becoming pilots for major airlines, several officers said.

Those leading the fight say they are prepared to take it to court.

"We're captains. We're commanders. We're leaders. We're not just going to say that checks out, we'll serve. It's not right," one of the officers said.

"They thought we'd just accept our fates," he added. "Clearly, we did not."


Tags

jrDiscussion - desc
[]
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
1  al Jizzerror    last year

Fucking over personnel is a military tradition.

In 1969, I was in the Navy's ROCIII program.

Then Congress decided the program was illegal because participants were not actually obligated to serve. 

I received a letter stating that I was "delinquent" on my drills.  I called the CO and asked him, "What's a drill?".  He said my reserve unit conducted weekend drills every month.  I said, "I'm in the ROCIII program and I'm only required to stay in college."  He said he never heard of the ROCIII program and he wold call me back.

When he called me he said that the ROCIII was "dissolved" and I was assigned to a regular reserve unit.  (No one told me.)  Then he said because I was delinquent on my drills, I was being placed on active duty immediately.  Suddenly, I was a sailor who didn't even have a fucking uniform.

I reported for duty on time (according to my orders).  I was told I was a day late and that it was my fault (because the Navy never makes a mistake. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

So, the DI dropped me for 50 pushups.  I was on the wrestling team in college so I was in great shape  After doing the pushups, the DI said, "wait here."  He can back with the CO and said, "watch this."  He told me to give him another 50 push ups.  So, I did.  The CO told me I was the new PT instructor.

I actually enjoyed serving in the Navy even though it was less than perfect.  SNAFUs were common.

SNAFU = Situation normal, all fucked up.

 

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    last year

my recruiter tried to fuck me over just as I was about to sign my enlistment papers in '73. I walked out. my dad was denied re-upping in the USMC in '55 because of 80% deafness caused by working on jet aircraft without being provided hearing protection. then the VA denied him benefits for his service related hearing disability until the 90's.

... and the 4F republicans wonder why the armed forces can't attract personnel.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2  devangelical  replied to  al Jizzerror @1    last year

had a friend that was machinists mate in the navy. he used to bring lots of exotic weed and hashish back home. we got spoiled on the blonde lebanese and thai stick. another friend in the army used to bring back hash from germany in shoe polish cans.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2  Kavika     last year

When I was being discharged they told me that I had to serve 3 years in the active reserve. I told him to take another look at my DD214 where it showed I was on active duty for 6 years and served two combat tours in Nam.

That ended his BS.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
Professor Participates
2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Kavika @2    last year

Joined the CG Reserves in '79 - applied for OCS, was accepted in '86.  Spent six years Extended Active Duty, got promoted to Ltjg in '89.

Desert Shield/Desert Storm came and went and in '92. 500 of we Jr. Officers were released and given Honorable Discharges - from further service, either as Active or as Reserve.

No warning - just - "well, it's been real and it's been nice - but it's not been real nice".

I was six months shy (17.5 years Active/Reserve) of being eligible for retirement benefits (18 years of service) and they said - "Sorry fella".

To this day, the CG continues to refuse my retirement eligibility.

And you wonder why I am proud to have served in the USMC???  Sure, they sent me to 'Nam twice, but they never sh** down my throat 'bout it or any of the other duties assigned.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3  SteevieGee    last year

They should take their complaints to Captain Yossarian, of the 256th Squadron, Us Army Air Forces.  He's been a bombardier there for many years now.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
Masters Expert
3.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  SteevieGee @3    last year
Captain Yossarian

Catch 22.

I went to Lincoln HS in Brooklyn.

I sat in the same desk that Joseph Heller had used years before.  He had carved his name in the desk.  I had the oldest English teacher  in the school.  Naturally she remembered teaching Heller.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2  devangelical  replied to  SteevieGee @3    last year

your joke probably passed 30K feet over the heads of some folks on NT...

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.2.1  SteevieGee  replied to  devangelical @3.2    last year

That's way higher than you should try to go in a B24.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3.2.2  devangelical  replied to  SteevieGee @3.2.1    last year

safer than getting a little off the top with a propeller...

 
 
 
SteevieGee
Professor Silent
3.2.3  SteevieGee  replied to  devangelical @3.2.2    last year

Ouch.  That was a horrific scene.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4  Split Personality    last year

This has happened to doctors and nurses and MSCs for decades.

Just because you put in for retirement doesn't mean automatic approval.

Hell, some folks did it to start the negotiation process.

Pretty sure Ronnie Jackson did it because he wouldn't last a week in private practice with having to stay sober every day...

 
 

Who is online


402 visitors