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Jane Roberts, Who Is Married to the Supreme Court Chief Justice, Made $10.3 Million in Commissions: Documents

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  58 comments

By:   Mattathias Schwartz (Business Insider)

Jane Roberts, Who Is Married to the Supreme Court Chief Justice, Made $10.3 Million in Commissions: Documents
New documents reveal Jane Roberts made $10.3 million from elite firms, raising questions about the Supreme Court justices' conflicts of interest.

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  • Jane Roberts was paid more than $10 million by a host of elite law firms, a whistleblower alleges.
  • At least one of those firms argued a case before Chief Justice Roberts after paying his wife hundreds of thousands of dollars.
  • Details of Jane Roberts' work come as Congress struggles to reform the Court's self-policed ethics.

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Two years after John Roberts' confirmation as the Supreme Court's chief justice in 2005, his wife, Jane Sullivan Roberts, made a pivot. After a long and distinguished career as a lawyer, she refashioned herself as a legal recruiter, a matchmaker who pairs job-hunting lawyers up with corporations and firms.

Roberts told a friend that the change was motivated by a desire to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest, given that her husband was now the highest-ranking judge in the country. "There are many paths to the good life," she said. "There are so many things to do if you're open to change and opportunity."

And life was indeed good for the Robertses, at least for the years 2007 to 2014. During that eight-year stretch, according to internal records from her employer, Jane Roberts generated a whopping $10.3 million in commissions, paid out by corporations and law firms for placing high-dollar lawyers with them.

That eye-popping figure comes from records in a whistleblower complaint filed by a disgruntled former colleague of Roberts, who says that as the spouse of the most powerful judge in the United States, the income she earns from law firms who practice before the Court should be subject to public scrutiny.

"When I found out that the spouse of the chief justice was soliciting business from law firms, I knew immediately that it was wrong," the whistleblower, Kendal B. Price, who worked alongside Jane Roberts at the legal remcruiting firm Major, Lindsey & Africa, told Insider in an interview. "During the time I was there, I was discouraged from ever raising the issue. And I realized that even the law firms who were Jane's clients had nowhere to go. They were being asked by the spouse of the chief justice for business worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and there was no one to complain to. Most of these firms were likely appearing or seeking to appear before the Supreme Court. It's natural that they'd do anything they felt was necessary to be competitive."

Roberts' apparent $10.3 million in compensation puts her toward the top of the payscale for legal headhunters. Price's disclosures, which were filed under federal whistleblower-protection laws and are now in the hands of the House and Senate Judiciary committees, add to the mounting questions about how Supreme Court justices and their families financially benefit from their special status, an area that Senate Democrats are vowing to investigate after a series of disclosure lapses by the justices themselves.

Jane Roberts did not respond to emails with detailed questions. When reached by phone on Thursday morning, she declined to comment, as did a spokesperson for the Supreme Court.

In an emailed statement, John Cashman, the president of Major, Lindsey & Africa, said that Jane Roberts was "one of several very successful recruiters" at the firm. He attributed his recruiters' success to "the highest standards: Candidate confidentiality, client trust, and professionalism."

A spokesperson for the firm declined to comment further. A spokesperson for Macrae, the recruiting firm where Roberts now works, did not return an email requesting comment.

The affidavit, along with internal financial spreadsheets showing Jane Roberts' earnings at Major, Lindsey & Africa, were sent to congressional committees as part of a whistleblower complaint filed in December. The documents suggest that Jane Roberts was a highly successful recruiter: In the affidavit, Price says that one of the firm's partners told him that she was "the highest earning recruiter in the entire company 'by a wide margin.'" And a detailed internal spreadsheet compiled by Major Lindsey & Africa shows that Roberts' "attributed revenue" totaled $13,309,433 between 2007 and 2014. Her share of that revenue, described by the spreadsheet as payments for "commissions," adds up to $10,323,842.70.

Legal headhunting firms typically receive a share of a partner's projected compensation as a matchmaking fee. (In other scenarios, like placing lawyers in-house, recruiting firms are often paid a retainer instead of a commission.) A large chunk of that fee is typically paid to the individual recruiters who made the deal happen, and it's those payments to Jane Roberts that Price criticized.

"She restructured her career to benefit from his [John Roberts'] position," Price wrote in an affidavit accompanying his complaint. "I believe that at least some of her remarkable success as a recruiter has come because of her spouse's position."

A cover letter from Price's lawyer, Joshua Dratel, which summarizes his claims, was previously published by Politico and reported on by the New York Times, along with some details from the underlying documents, which Insider is publishing today for the first time. While the Times reported that Roberts "has been paid millions of dollars in commissions," the total figure has not been previously reported.

Mark Jungers, another one of Jane Roberts' former colleagues, said that Jane was smart, talented, and good at her job. "To my knowledge," he told Insider, "friends of John were mostly friends of Jane, and while it certainly did not harm her access to top people to have John as her spouse, I never saw her 'use' that inappropriately. In fact, I would say that Jane was always very sensitive to the privacy of her family and when she could drop the name or make certain calls, she didn't."

Insider spoke with with three legal recruiters who said $10.3 million in commission was a plausible amount for someone with Roberts' experience and network to have made over those years.

In a prior statement to the Times, a spokesperson for the Supreme Court said that the justices, including Roberts, are "attentive to ethical constraints" and obey laws governing financial disclosure. The spokesperson also told the Times that the Robertses had complied with the code of conduct for federal judges, citing an advisory opinion finding that "a judge whose spouse owned and operated a legal or executive recruitment business need not recuse merely because a law firm appearing before the judge engaged the judge's spouse." (Other advisory opinions have held that when a judge's spouse is actively recruiting for a firm appearing before that judge, or when a spouse has personally done "high level" recruitment work that generated "substantial fees," recusal would be appropriate.)

Dratel said that regardless of whether there was an actual conflict of interest, the linkage between the couple's careers looked bad. "What's the public confidence in a system when the firms which are appearing before the court are making decisions that are to the financial benefit of the chief justice?" he asked.

A series of damaging disclosures


The news of Jane Roberts's outsized earnings and the allegation that she traded on her husband's role comes as the Supreme Court faces a broader crisis of legitimacy. Only 25 percent of Americans say they have "a great deal" of confidence in the court, the lowest since Gallup started asking the question in 1974. The court has been rocked in recent weeks by a series of revelations about the behavior of sitting justices, including transactions and relationships that could lead to discipline in almost any other professional context.

First, ProPublica revealed that Clarence Thomas accepted lavish, undisclosed gifts of travel and had engaged in real estate transactions with Harlan Crow, a Dallas real-estate developer and GOP donor. That news prompted the discovery of errors in Thomas's financial disclosure forms, which he agreed to revise. This isn't the first time that Thomas has had difficulty with filing complete and accurate financial disclosure forms. In 2011, Thomas amended 13 years of forms, some of which had wrongly claimed that his wife Ginni had no outside income, when in fact she'd been paid more than half a million dollars by the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Then came the news that shortly after his confirmation to the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch had sold his share of a vacation property to Big Law CEO. He reported the transaction on his disclosure forms, but left the name of the buyer blank.

These disclosures came on the heels of yet another report in November that an evangelical activist orchestrated an influence campaign targeting Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. by mobilizing a network of well-heeled conservative donors to contribute to the Supreme Court Historical Society. One of those donors, the activist claims, received an early heads up about a coming decision in the Hobby Lobby case.

Last week, Sen. Dick Durbin, chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, invited Roberts to "restore confidence in the Court's ethical standards" by coming on the Hill and giving public testimony. Roberts declined.

In a statement to Insider, Durbin suggested that he was close to giving up on the prospect that the Supreme Court was capable of policing itself. "The need for Supreme Court ethics reform is clear," he said. "And since it appears that the Court will not take adequate action, Congress must."

Unlike their 870 district-court and circuit-court colleagues, the nine Supreme Court justices are essentially exempt from strict compliance with the Judicial Conference's rigorous Code of Conduct; instead they only consult it as what Roberts has called a "starting point." The Supreme Court is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act or the oversight of the Office on Government Ethics. It has no internal ethics committee and no inspector general. In lieu of all these safeguards, there is a document called "Statements of Ethics Principles and Practices," which Roberts provided to Durbin.

Even the bare-bones requirement of an annual financial disclosure form is, in Roberts' view, a voluntary gesture, as "the Court has never addressed whether Congress may impose those requirements on the Supreme Court."

Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and his wife Jane exit the funeral service for Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, who died in 2016 while on an expenses-paid trip with a secretive hunting society at a luxury ranch in Texas. Chip Somodevilla/Getty

A previous letter from Durbin urged Chief Justice Roberts to open an investigation into Justice Thomas for conduct "that is plainly inconsistent with the ethical standards the American people expect of any person in a position of public trust." Roberts did not reply, although Judge Roslynn Mauskopf, the secretary of the Judicial Conference, did, writing that she had forwarded Durbin's letter to the conference's financial disclosure committee, which deals with "allegations of errors or omissions in the filing of financial disclosure reports." But whether that committee has the authority to discipline Thomas or any other Supreme Court Justice remains a matter of murky constitutional interpretation, to be ultimately decided by the Supreme Court itself.

Now, Price and a legal ethics expert that he consulted for his complaint say that Chief Justice Roberts may have his own disclosure issues. The millions that Jane Roberts made placing Washington lawyers into high-level jobs, described as "commission" on internal firm documents, was listed each year as "salary" on John Roberts' financial disclosure forms. (The form only requires judges to list the sources of spousal income, not the amounts.)

The balance of Roberts' income did not come at a steady rate from a single employer, as "salary" suggests. It was paid by the deal and based on a sizable cut of her clients' salaries — a compensation model which varies from year to year depending on her ability to capitalize on her network. The ultimate sources of her income were the firms hiring Major, Lindsey & Africa-backed candidates. Their identities and the specific amounts that they paid Roberts for her services remain unknown.

Price's affidavit says that John Roberts' characterization of his wife's income as "salary" is "misleading." A memo written in support of Price's complaint by Bennett Gershman, professor at the Elisabeth Haub School of Law at Pace University who has written books on legal ethics, goes further. "Characterizing Mrs. Roberts' commissions as 'salary' is not merely factually incorrect; it is incorrect as a matter of law," Gershman wrote. "The legal distinction between these terms is clear, undisputed, and legally material. If the Chief Justice's inaccurate financial disclosures were inadvertent, presumably he should file corrected and amended disclosures."

In 2014, Price sued Jane Roberts and Major, Lindsey & Africa. He claimed that Roberts and another recruiter had collected fees for placing job candidates that were rightfully his. His complaint states that he was the only Black recruiter at the firm, and that his attempts "to recruit diverse in-house candidates" were not "only rebuffed … but also criticized as unproductive and unprofitable." Price says in his affidavit that he only met Roberts once during the years when they were colleagues; he says he discussed both her performance and Supreme Court ties with other recruiters. Price's suit was referred to an arbitrator, who dismissed Price's claims, ruling in favor of the company. But in the process, Major, Lindsey & Africa produced the spreadsheets that show Roberts' commission as well as "attributed revenue" connected to her recruiting.

Since then, Price has worked as the principal of a legal consulting firm in Boston, doing work that includes counseling other whistleblowers. It was years, he says, before he came to believe that the material he turned up in his own case should be made public. "I was worried about the potential negative effect of this disclosure on my life and career," he wrote in his affidavit. "However, with the passage of time and reflection … I've decided that, despite the risks, it is time to share with you what I know."

'Successful people have successful friends'


Legal recruiting is an established niche profession. One Washington insider compared it to being a real-estate agent. "You know your customer and what they're interested in," they said. "Then you go out and find something. The barriers to entry are low. But there are certain realtors who are well-established, even realtors who deal with billionaires. At Jane's level, no doubt she's talking to the leaders of the big law firms and they're telling her things like, well, when the attorney general steps down, we'd like to hire them. She's not making cold calls."

Recruiters get paid by the firms and companies that do the hiring — often 20 to 25 percent of a new hire's first-year compensation, which can be in the seven figures. In sworn testimony taken in 2015, included as part of Price's whistleblower disclosure and published here by Insider, Roberts gave a detailed account of the mechanics of her recruiting practice. Most of her business, she says, comes through referrals: "Successful people have successful friends."

In her testimony, Roberts said she specialized in placing current and former government officials at law firms, describing the mechanics of her job in market-oriented terms. Candidates, Roberts said, are "owned" by whomever first pitches them, and those contacts are logged in an internal company database. "The monetary value of a senior government official will depend on the value they bring to a law firm's client base," she said, "some very senior people have been basically valued at zero because the law firms don't see the business case." For that reason, Roberts said, she advises candidates — often current U.S. attorneys, cabinet secretaries, or even senators — to write a formal business plan explaining their value to elite firms.

Compensation for a retiring lawmaker, she says, "depends very much on the senator or congressperson's ability to practice law and in what areas. So sometimes their highest and best use is as a lobbyist, but they don't want to be lobbyists, so you can have, and others actually have, hard legal skills."

Roberts stresses discretion: "I keep my placements confidential. The firm keeps them confidential." Only a few, according to reporting by the Times, have become public: Robert Bennett, Brendan Johnson, Timothy Purdon, and Michael Held. Price's affidavit cites another — Kenneth Salazar, who led the Department of the Interior under President Obama. Price alleges that Roberts would have received $350,000 for Salazar's placement at WilmerHale, which has a booming Supreme Court practice. While there is no evidence that any of Roberts' placements — as opposed to the firms that hire them — have argued before the Supreme Court, a legal consultant told Politico that Roberts' "access to people is heavily influenced by her last name."

Gershman's memo cites one case, Dutra Group v. Batterton , in which the Supreme Court overruled a decision that found a WilmerHale client potentially liable for punitive damages. Roberts voted with the majority. "In my opinion, a reasonable person would want to know that the law firm on the other side of a legal dispute had recently paid the judge's household over $350,000," Gershman wrote. "Such a payment might cause a reasonable person to question the judge's impartiality."

Neither WilmerHale nor Salazar, who is now the US ambassador to Mexico, immediately responded to emails requesting comment.

In 2019, Jane Roberts left Major, Lindsey & Africa to head up the Washington office of Macrae, another legal recruitment firm, where she serves as managing partner. As with his previous forms, Justice Roberts' most recent financial disclosure gives no indication of how much money his spouse made or which law firms it came from. Nor is there any indication that she earned a commission on placements, only income paid out by "Macrae, Inc. — Attorney Search Consultants - salary."


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    last year

Is it time to clean house at the Supreme Court?

Because, this is bullshit!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    last year

gee, all the federalists have a price tag... shocking! not.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

yup, every single republiCON/CONservative involved with the supreme court (and their wives) have been bought and paid for.

token thomas is harlan crow's house boy

good ole' long dong silver - we know why Ginni's married to him eh?

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
1.1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  devangelical @1.1    last year

No, it is not shocking, it seems consistent with their values. MONEY over the country, guns OVER KIDS, HATE OVER LOVE!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
1.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  JBB @1    last year

Absolutely, John Roberts, The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, is just as corrupt, even more so, than Clarence Thomas. Thank explains why Thomas has been able to get away from his crimes "Scott Free".  

The good, old Southern Catholic Christian, Johnnie is a massive grifter.

Expand the Court, now. Demand and investigation into corruption by other SOCTUS appointees (Justices, Kavanaugh and Aileto)!

When the Supreme Court is on the "take", Democracy, as we know it, is in peril.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @1.2    last year
Democracy, as we know it, is in peril.

This seems to be the rallying cry of the dems lately.  Everything they don't like is an attack on democracy and democracy is hanging on by a thread.  They seem  to think democracy is much more fragile than it is.  Or maybe they are just trying to scare the feeble minded.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    last year

The coordinated assault on the Supreme Court continues.  It's all bullshit and innuendo, but it's designed to justify the upcoming "let's ignore the rulings of the Supreme Court" position we've already seen floated as trial balloons from Democratic Congressman. They have to justify their insurrection somehow, even with the thinnest of excuses. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.1  Hallux  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year
The coordinated assault on the Supreme Court continues.

Kinda reminds one of the 'coordinated' assault on the DoJ, the FBI, etc ... /S

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
2.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

Sean, when one strips away their political bias, it is apparent that there is something VERY PUNGENT and FOUL in the Supreme Court. It deserves an explanation, investigation, and an airing of the facts in public.

Thomas
Roberts
Kavanaugh
and Aileto is a good start. There is nothing disquieting about "oversight"! 

There is, however, something suicidal about shielding corruption because of political allegiance.

Americans need a refresher, We Swear Allegiance to Our Country, NOT our PARTY! 


 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @2.2    last year
"We Swear Allegiance to Our Country, NOT our PARTY!" 

Bullshit!  Dems swear allegiance to the far left Progressive Party

Appears all their actions are properly documented and proper and legal.

As in the case of Trump, prove wrongdoing.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
2.2.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Greg Jones @2.2.1    last year

Greg: I stand flummox; I have never heard of the Progressive Party of the Left. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3  Sparty On    last year

Yawn .... more weak assed camouflage attempting to deflect from the Biden family bilkers. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @3    last year

If Jill Biden pecketed ten mil you'd have a cow!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @3.1    last year

Nah, not if she pecketed it legally like Jane Roberts did.    Nor would I be a jealous little bitch like many on the left are of Jane.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sparty On @3.1.1    last year

What did Hunter Biden do that is illegal?

It stinks those close to powerful people unfairly profit from their proximity to that power like Genni Thomas, the Trump kids, Jerred Kushner and Mrs Roberts have, and still continue to. But, though this is plainly unethical, it is not illegal. Mostly Democrats, but a very few in the gop also, have long proposed much stronger laws, rules and regulation of this. But, to no avail...

The glaring hypocrisy comes from those like yourself who carry on and on about this type of corruption from their political opponents yet give a ready pass to their own. If Hunter Biden "earned" ridiculous pay for little effort or expertise that sucks, but it is not illegal. When you will admit it was equally wrong when Jerred, Ivanka, Don Jr, Genni Thomas and the wife of the Chief Justice of The United States Supreme Court does so too, then we can talk...

Until then your false indignation about Hunter Biden is just partisan bullshit...

Joe and Jill Biden's taxes are public for the last twenty years. If there is any proof he filed false tax returns the he should pay the price, just as Trump must be required to.

Yet, Trump's taxes still are not available!

What about that? Be real, for this once...

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.3  Snuffy  replied to  JBB @3.1.2    last year
The glaring hypocrisy comes from those like yourself who carry on and on about this type of corruption from their political opponents yet give a ready pass to their own.

One can easily say "Pot meet Kettle".   You carry on about how the Republicans are wrong to complain about Hunter yet  you continue to give him a pass.  

Have  you checked to see if what Jane did was illegal or unethical as per the rules of SCOTUS?  Or is this just partisan wind again?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  JBB @3.1.2    last year

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Sparty On
Professor Principal
3.1.5  Sparty On  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.3    last year
You carry on about how the Republicans are wrong to complain about Hunter yet  you continue to give him a pass

Yep, the hypocrisy that rules “reason” for many of our friends on the left.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
3.1.6  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Snuffy @3.1.3    last year

What we are asking for Snuffy, is not vengeance but an investigation into these activities conducted by Supreme Court Justices, and their spouses, to determine once and forever if they are illegal, unethical, or acceptable financial activities.

There is no need to RUSH to Judgement on either side of the aisle. But I will note that REPUBLICANS are extremely sensitive when the issue of wrongdoing comes up. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1.7  Snuffy  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @3.1.6    last year
But I will note that REPUBLICANS are extremely sensitive when the issue of wrongdoing comes up. 

That's funny because I see more Democrats with their shorts in a bind over such issues while more Republican members do want investigations that provide the evidence.  How many times to Democrats on this board rush to judgement and demand jail time before any investigation has been done?  

Oh, and hitting the "like" button for your own posts?  wow....

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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3.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sparty On @3    last year

What is the glue that holds Right-Wing [Deleted] to a corrupt and imploding political party with the evidence of "WRONGDOING" is so blatant, destructive, and dangerous that they would immediately resort to their old saw "What about Hunter's LAPTOP," HUH?

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @3.2    last year

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Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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3.2.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sparty On @3.2.1    last year

These are serious issues that have been raised not by LIBERALS or Democrats but by serious professional sources that have a right to be heard.

Hurling, childish, scoreless, indignant name-calling is not a defense. It is an admission of guilt.  Not it off. Time to take one's responsibility as a citizen seriously.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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3.2.3  Sparty On  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @3.2.2    last year

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Right Down the Center
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4  Right Down the Center    last year

The loons on the left are wailing again, trying to cancel the next person that doesn't agree with them.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    last year

No, Americans across the political spectrum are sick and tired of those close to political power legally selling their access to that power, plainly corrupting those in power regardless of party...

Most Democrats support making profiteering by the family of those holding high office illegal...

The gop does not! 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @4.1    last year

Because it's the gop/gqp/CONservatives/republiCONS are the ones guilty of selling that access to the highest bidder.

Token Thomas is Harlan Crow's house boy, bought and paid for.  Crow is also a Nazi supporter/sympathizer, whatever those scumbag racists are called.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    last year

Exactly!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.3  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4.1    last year
Most Democrats support making profiteering by the family of those holding high office illegal...

Then Joes days are numbered

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    last year

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JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.3    last year

Hunter Biden does not hold public office!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.1.5    last year

Jane Robert does?

 
 
 
GregTx
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4.1.7  GregTx  replied to  JBB @4.1.5    last year

What public office does Jane Robert's hold?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @4.1.5    last year
Hunter Biden does not hold public office!

Your statement was "Most Democrats support making profiteering by the family of those holding high office illegal..."  Where did you say it had to be someone in public office profiteering?  It seems you were very specific in saying family.  Why are you moving the goal posts?

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
4.1.9  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.3    last year

I am sorry, but I am still unable to follow your logic. 

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
4.1.10  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.3    last year

Your assumptions do not seem to add up. Perhaps, you are leaving out fundamental steps in your argument that I missed.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
4.1.11  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.3    last year

Really, how do you come by that calculation? It seems illogical.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.1.11    last year
Really, how do you come by that calculation? It seems illogical.

To paraphrase what someone said "Those who cannot see, or even question the ethics of the Joe and Hunters shady dealings are not paying attention."

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @4.1.1    last year
Token Thomas is Harlan Crow's house boy,

Wow, two racist terms in one sentence.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
4.1.14  Snuffy  replied to  Right Down the Center @4.1.13    last year

Nothing like a tolerant liberal response, is there...

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
4.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    last year

Those who cannot see, or even question the ethics of the Republican Party over the past sixty years, are not paying attention, or lack the skill to understand what is happening to our country right before their sleepy eyes.

We are not engaged in a sports competition. These issues have deadly, deliberate consequences that not only affect this generation, but all generations to come.

It is time for loose-lip, ignorant Right-Wing Extremists to WAKE TFU!

You are NOT VOTING FOR A PROM KING & QUEEN!  Grow the FU OR STFU.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Sparty On  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2    last year

The projection contained in your comment is copious to say the least.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2    last year

No, your concerns are baseless and unsupported. You appear to just want stir up partisan shit.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
Professor Guide
4.2.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.1    last year

I shall take that (copious) as a compliment.

Doing a little research before slandering folks with juvenile condemnations would go a long way with your argument if you had an argument, instead of mud-slinging.

We are not on the playground. Bullies are still bullies, but, as everyone knows, they are rarely right or they wouldn't be bullies. 

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.2.4  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.2    last year

Greg:

Are you familiar with the concept of "PROJECTION", when an individual projects their feelings onto another? Trump is an excellent example of the overuse of this technique when debating.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.2.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2    last year
Grow the FU OR STFU.

Who is the judge of what constitutes grown up, you?  Not a fan of free speech it seems.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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4.2.6  Sparty On  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2.3    last year
I shall take that (copious) as a compliment.

That would be perfect .... in opposite world.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
4.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.2.4    last year

To be accurate, the “complete” definition of Projection you were looking for in this case is:

the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or attitudes to other people or to objects

Understand my friends on the left love to dwell only on the touchy/feely end of the spectrum but I’m always happy I can help all y’all get it right.

Always.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Sparty On @4.2.1    last year

Amen to that!

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.3  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Right Down the Center @4    last year

We are not wailing, my friend, we are suggesting that these accusations were not made by us on the so-called LEFT, but by individuals that have pertinent information and have come forward as a WHISTLEBLOWER to expose corruption.

They have a LEGAL right to bring forward information that they believe is true and factual, not the right to falsely attack their fellow citizens.

And, by the way, you do not have the right to attack, vilify, or slander your fellow citizens without proof, or formally pressing charges for injury.

We are no longer in the 2nd grade!

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3    last year
"And, by the way, you do not have the right to attack, vilify, or slander your fellow citizens without proof, or formally pressing charges for injury".

Well, that's what you and the left is doing to these Justices. Particularly in the case of Kavanaugh.

 
 
 
Eat The Press Do Not Read It
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4.3.2  Eat The Press Do Not Read It  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3.1    last year

We are asking for a preview of SCOTUS due to the increasing number of complaints publicly aired about the COURT!


 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.3.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3.2    last year
e increasing number of complaints publicly aired about the COURT!

In other words, left wing media air flimsy hit pieces about justices that ignorant yokels eat up in order to delegitimize the Court.  

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Greg Jones @4.3.1    last year
Well, that's what you and the left is doing to these Justices.

They can always rationalize why it is OK when they do it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.3.5  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3    last year
individuals that have pertinent information and have come forward as a WHISTLEBLOWER to expose corruption.

As stated in the article "whistleblower complaint filed by a disgruntled former colleague of Roberts".  That whistleblower?  And everyone is more than happy to take anything he or she says without even questioning it.  Shame

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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4.3.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3.2    last year
increasing number of complaints publicly aired about the COURT!

By people with an ax to grind. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
4.3.7  Right Down the Center  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3    last year
And, by the way, you do not have the right to attack, vilify, or slander your fellow citizens without proof

A fellow citizen like Jane Roberts?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
4.3.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Eat The Press Do Not Read It @4.3.2    last year

Please state just who are said "...increasing number of complaints publicly aired about the COURT!" coming from?

 
 

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