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250,000 Floridians Get Kicked Off Medicaid as DeSantis Rakes in Big Donor Cash

  

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Via:  jbb  •  2 years ago  •  57 comments

By:   Common Dreams

250,000 Floridians Get Kicked Off Medicaid as DeSantis Rakes in Big Donor Cash
"One of these individuals is a seven-year-old boy in remission from Leukemia who is now unable to access follow-up—and potentially lifesaving—treatments," said local advocacy groups.

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Hundreds of thousands of poor Floridians have been kicked off Medicaid in recent weeks as their Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, travels the country for his 2024 presidential bid and rakes in campaign cash from big donors.

Florida is among the states that have begun unwinding pandemic-era rules barring states from removing people from Medicaid during the public health emergency. Late last year, Congress reached a bipartisan deal to end the so-called continuous coverage requirements, opening the door to a massive purge of the lifesaving healthcare program.

A dozen states have released early data on the number of people removed from Medicaid as they restart eligibility checks, a cumbersome process that many people fail to navigate.

So far, the statistics are alarming: More than 600,000 people across the U.S. have been stripped of Medicaid coverage since April, according to a KFF Health Newsanalysis of the available data, and "the vast majority were removed from state rolls for not completing paperwork" rather than confirmed ineligibility.

Nearly 250,000 people who have been booted from Medicaid live in Florida, whose governor is a longtime opponent of public healthcare programs. As HuffPost's Jonathan Cohn wrote Sunday, DeSantis "has refused to support the ACA's Medicaid expansion for the state, which is the biggest reason that more than 12% of Floridians don't have health insurance."

"That's the fourth-highest rate in the country," Cohn noted.

But DeSantis, who has said he wants to "make America Florida," appears unmoved by the staggering number of people losing Medicaid in his state as he hits the campaign trail. The governor relied heavily on large contributors to bring in more than $8 million during the first 24 hours of his presidential bid.

Prior to formally launching his 2024 campaign, DeSantis traveled the country in private jets on the dime of rich and sometimes secret donors, and he is currently facing a Federal Election Commission complaint for unlawfully transferring more than $80 million from a state committee to a super PAC supporting his White House bid.

"Families with children have been erroneously terminated, and parents are having trouble reaching the DCF call center for help with this process."

Late last month, DeSantis' administration insisted it "has a robust outreach campaign" aimed at ensuring people are aware of the hoops they have to jump through to keep their Medicaid coverage, such as income verification.

In Florida, a four-person household must make less than $39,900 in annual income to qualify for Medicaid.

The state's early data indicates that 44% of those who have lost coverage in recent weeks were removed for procedural reasons, like a failure to return paperwork on time.

The figures have drawn outrage from local advocates, who urged DeSantis late last month to pause the Medicaid redetermination process after hearing reports of people losing coverage without receiving any notice from Florida's chronically understaffed Department of Children and Families (DCF).

"One of these individuals is a seven-year-old boy in remission from Leukemia who is now unable to access follow-up—and potentially lifesaving—treatments," a coalition of groups including the Florida Policy Institute and the Florida Health Justice Project wrote to DeSantis. "Families with children have been erroneously terminated, and parents are having trouble reaching the DCF call center for help with this process. Additionally, unclear notices and lack of information on how to appeal contribute to more confusion."

Citing Miriam Harmatz, advocacy director and founder of the Florida Health Justice Project, KFF Health Newsreported last week that "some cancellation notices in Florida are vague and could violate due process rules."

"Letters that she's seen say 'your Medicaid for this period is ending' rather than providing a specific reason for disenrollment, like having too high an income or incomplete paperwork," the outlet noted. "If a person requests a hearing before their cancellation takes effect, they can stay covered during the appeals process. Even after being disenrolled, many still have a 90-day window to restore coverage."

The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that around 15.5 million people—including 5 million children—are likely to lose Medicaid coverage nationwide over the next year and a half as states resume eligibility checks made necessary by a system that doesn't guarantee healthcare to all as a right.

"Many people don't realize that they've been disenrolled from Medicaid until they show up at the pharmacy to get their prescription refilled or they have a doctor's appointment scheduled," Jennifer Tolbert, director of state health reform at the Kaiser Family Foundation, toldThe Washington Post last week.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

Dick Santis - what an evil scumbag

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    2 years ago
Dick Santis - what an evil scumbag

Wow, you seem to feel strongly about this.  So please tell me EXACTLY what DeSantis did to make 250,000 people lose medicade.  And please make sure you include what he did to make 205,000 of them that be disqualified because they failed to respond to requests for information needed to renew their eligibility.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

another example of conservative xtianity...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago

Another exampled of government dependency.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 years ago
another example of conservative xtianity...

I can never understand it, republicans are constantly saying one thing and doing something else.  Despite the fact that they keep enacting laws and policies that are against their voter bases, those voters keep voting for them.

inconceivable.jpg

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    2 years ago

See comment 6 below. Has jack shit to do with republicans or anyone else. But we know how liberals like to not recognize people's problems being of their own doing and lack of personal responsibility................

 
 
 
Snuffy
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1.2.6  Snuffy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.4    2 years ago

The law that set this up was The Consolidated Appropriations Act (CAA) enacted in December 2022.  

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Now just to remind those who can't do the research themselves,  in December of 2022 the House was controlled by Democrats, the Senate was controlled by Democrats and the White House was controlled by Democrats.  And this bill passed with bipartisan support in both the House and the Senate.

But hey,  you found something else to post to bitch about DeSantis ignoring that this law was passed by the federal government and all states will be reviewing their Medicaid roles to remove those who no longer qualify to be on Medicaid.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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1.2.8  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.3    2 years ago
Despite the fact that they keep enacting laws and policies that are against their voter bases

So what law or policy did the republicans pass that caused 80% of  the people dropped to either not fill out the application correctly or not answer the request for more information?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

Misleading title...neither one has anything to do with the other.

 
 
 
George
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3  George    2 years ago
 Late last year, Congress reached a bipartisan deal to end the so-called continuous coverage requirements, opening the door to a massive purge of the lifesaving healthcare program.

The party of no personal responsibility once again trying to blame a republican for their actions. Who controlled the House late last year? who controlled the Senate? wasn't Joe Alzheimer president then?  

 
 
 
Snuffy
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3.1  Snuffy  replied to  George @3    2 years ago

Yeah,  with the end of the health emergency for Covid this was the expected outcome.  And all states will be reviewing and unwinding their Medicaid roles, it's estimated that somewhere between 5 million and 14 million people will lose their eligibility across the country.

But this is a good chance for the partisans to try to pin another target on DeSantis.  

 
 
 
George
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3.1.1  George  replied to  Snuffy @3.1    2 years ago

The wailing for the rich to pay for the student loans for the irresponsible will be starting soon, we may need to wear ear plugs for a while.

 
 
 
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3.1.2  evilone  replied to  George @3.1.1    2 years ago
The wailing for the rich to pay for the student loans for the irresponsible will be starting soon...

Yeah.. if the rich pay off student loans they won't be able to buy off Republican politicians? Ohhhh the horrors!!! 

 
 
 
George
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3.1.3  George  replied to  evilone @3.1.2    2 years ago

Dumbest comment so far today.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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3.1.5  Jack_TX  replied to  George @3.1.3    2 years ago
Dumbest comment so far today.

That's a really, really, really high bar.

I'm not sure it's even the dumbest comment on this seed.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.6  devangelical  replied to  evilone @3.1.2    2 years ago

LOL

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

So either people can't do paperwork or the economy in Florida has lifted people out of poverty so they no longer qualify.  

If only DeSantis kept people poor enough to qualify for Medicaid like a good progressive would. 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2  Kavika   replied to  Sean Treacy @4    2 years ago
So either people can't do paperwork or the economy in Florida has lifted people out of poverty so they no longer qualify.   If only DeSantis kept people poor enough to qualify for Medicaid like a good progressive would. 

 Florida is ranked 4th in terms of uninsured and Texas rates as number one. This is as of 2021 the latest report, 2023 shows Florida at 15.2%

https://www.statista.com/statistics/986620/health-uninsured-population-share-by-us-state/#:~:text=Texas%20was%20the%20state%20with,insurance%20in%202021%2C%20by%20state.

The number will change after the latest purge.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.1  George  replied to  Kavika @4.2    2 years ago

How can that be? Barry said everyone would have coverage. did he lie?  Let me guess, it is the republicans fault that irresponsible people don't buy health insurance? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.2  Kavika   replied to  George @4.2.1    2 years ago
How can that be? Barry said everyone would have coverage. did he lie?  Let me guess, it is the republicans fault that irresponsible people don't buy health insurance? 

 Don't guess since you really have little idea of situation. It is the Republicans decision in Florida that they (Republicans) didn't take advantage of this. 

Florida is among just 10 states to not take advantage of an Affordable Care Act provision that provides additional money to expand Medicaid eligibility. Doing so would would make an estimated 900,000 Floridians eligible, or more than 4% of the state’s population. That includes more than 400,000 who earn below the federal poverty level, according to the  Florida Policy Institute , a Tallahassee nonprofit.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.3  George  replied to  Kavika @4.2.2    2 years ago

Was the ACA federal law? Did it require everyone to have health insurance? It’s a simple question. The worthless irresponsible takers have to follow the law even if it isn’t free.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.4  Kavika   replied to  George @4.2.3    2 years ago
Was the ACA federal law? Did it require everyone to have health insurance? It’s a simple question. The worthless irresponsible takers have to follow the law even if it isn’t free.

In case you forgot, never knew or are just deflecting we are discussing Florida and the uninsured here in the state. 

The ''worthless irresponsible takers'' I suspect that you have proof that they are as you stated, or is it just more of the smoke you blow and pretend that it is fact. 

Regarding the federal law and the ACA:

As of 2023, there is currently no federal fine for not enrolling in health insurance. The federal government eliminated the fine in 2019.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.5  George  replied to  Kavika @4.2.4    2 years ago

it is still federal law that you have health insurance, not the state law, federal law! Irresponsible worthless takers must be plentiful in Florida.

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.6  Kavika   replied to  George @4.2.5    2 years ago
Irresponsible worthless takers must be plentiful in Florida.

We are a deep red state, so yes a lot of RW irresponsible worthless takers here in the Sunshine State. It's encouraging that you recognize that.

 
 
 
George
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4.2.7  George  replied to  Kavika @4.2.6    2 years ago

Another ignorant post, Florida could be described as purple but never deep red. California on the other hand is deep blue and has 1/3 of all welfare recipients so we all know who the majority of worthless takers are in any state. Guess where the highest welfare and uninsured are on this map? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.2.8  Kavika   replied to  George @4.2.7    2 years ago
Another ignorant post, Florida could be described as purple but never deep red. California on the other hand is deep blue and has 1/3 of all welfare recipients so we all know who the majority of worthless takers are in any state. Guess where the highest welfare and uninsured are on this

Another reminder that we are discussing Florida, not California. And yes, Florida is a deep red state. It is no longer purple or didn't you see the last election? The one that was for the governorship of Florida in 2022.

Guess where the highest welfare and uninsured are on this map? 

The ten states that have the highest number of SNAP recipients are: California (3,789,000), Texas (3,406,000), Florida (2,847,000), New York (2,661,000), 

Red and Blue states are pretty much equal.
 
 
 
Veronica
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4.2.9  Veronica  replied to  George @4.2.7    2 years ago

How about you be honest - lets do it per capita

The states with the highest SNAP participation rates as of November 2022 are:
  1. New Mexico (24.3%)
  2. Louisiana (19.5%)
  3. West Virginia (18.2%)
  4. Oklahoma (17.2%) 
  5. Oregon (17.0%)
  6. Illinois (16.2%)
  7. Alabama (15.4%)
  8. Massachusetts (15.2%)
  9. Nevada (15.0%)
  10. North Carolina (15.0%)

 
 
 
George
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4.2.10  George  replied to  Veronica @4.2.9    2 years ago

Lets, move the gold posts because the results don't fit my ideology, the fact is 1/3 of all Welfare recipients live in KKKalifornia with only 1/6 the population. Worthless taketrs.

 
 
 
Veronica
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4.2.11  Veronica  replied to  George @4.2.10    2 years ago

Ok, so you do not want to present HONEST facts.  Gotcha.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.2.12  Bob Nelson  replied to  George @4.2.10    2 years ago

goal posts 

 
 
 
George
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4.2.13  George  replied to  Veronica @4.2.11    2 years ago

Those facts were honest, why limit it to Snap? 

 
 
 
George
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4.2.14  George  replied to  Bob Nelson @4.2.12    2 years ago

Their, there, they’re! You are going to be okay.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4.2.15  Bob Nelson  replied to  George @4.2.14    2 years ago

Sloppy posting shows a lack of respect for the reader. From your reaction, I guess you're pleased to publicize that lack.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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5  Jack_TX    2 years ago
KFF Health News analysis of the available data, and "the vast majority were removed from state rolls for not completing paperwork"

Soooo.... yet another bullshit headline from yet another batshit blog.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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6  Right Down the Center    2 years ago

According to The Tampa Bay Times "About 80% of those terminated — roughly 205,000 — were disqualified because they failed to respond to requests for information needed to renew their eligibility, the state report shows. About 44,300 recipients were referred to other programs because they earn too much to be eligible."

That won't stop some from yelling but but but DeSantis.

That being said applying for Medicade is ridiculously cumbersome and almost impossible to navigate, even compared to Medicare, especially for the elderly.  It is just another case of the government making things as difficult as possible for everyone.  What the whole system needs is for someone to look into the root cause of the issue and make it much more difficult for people to fall through the bureaucratic cracks.  Maybe Kamel breath is available.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  JohnRussell    2 years ago

Medicaid should not be left up to the governors of red states. It should be a federal program. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago
n the United States, Medicaid is a government program that provides health insurance for 85 million individuals (adults and children) with limited income and resources. The program is partially funded and primarily managed by state governments, which also have wide latitude in determining eligibility and benefits, but the federal government sets baseline standards for state Medicaid programs and provides a significant portion of their funding.
 
 
 
Jack_TX
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7.3  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 years ago
Medicaid should not be left up to the governors of red states. It should be a federal program. 

It should be abolished/absorbed/replaced and the participants covered under the Affordable Care Act.

The Democrats had the chance to do that, BTW.

 
 

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